Betsy Lee PGY 3. o 35 y/o M, h/o depression, comes to the ED with history of being found in bed with...

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Evidence in the ED Gag Reflex Betsy Lee PGY 3

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Evidence in the EDGag Reflex

Betsy LeePGY 3

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Caseo 35 y/o M, h/o depression, comes to the ED with

history of being found in bed with multiple empty pill bottles, unknown medications.

o On exam, he has a GCS 8 with the presence of a gag reflex.

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Does the presence of the gag reflex mean that the patient is able to protect their

airway?

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The Use of GCS in Poisoningo 414 admissions for poisoningo 43 patients admitted

Intubation

No Intubatio

n

Total

GCS ≤ 8 37 18 55

GCS > 8 4 334 338

Total 41 352 393

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The Use of GCS in PoisoningIntubatio

nNo

Intubation

Total

Gag Reflex 11 348 359

No Gag Reflex

26 0 26

Unknown 4 4 8

Total 41 352 393

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Gag Reflex in Assessing Level of Consciousness

o Examined 38 patients on presentation to the ER that ranged from combative to comatose

o Used a tongue blade to assess for gag reflexo 3 patients lacked a gago 35 patients had a gag – 6 had been intubated PTA,

12 obtundedo 18 ER staff members then assessed

o 4 staff members lacked a gag

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Relation between GCS and Gago 111 patients had GCS and gag assessed

GCS Absent Weaker Normal

13-15 6 16 30

9-12 4 8 10

≤ 8 17 16 4

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SummaryAbsence of a gag reflex may be an indicator

that a patient requires intubationHowever, presence of a gag reflex is not a

useful piece of information37% of healthy volunteers do not have a gag

reflex

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HUPism: The presence or absence of a gag is not helpful information.

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Referenceso Chan B, et al. “The Use of Glasgow Coma Scale

in Poisoning.” The Journal of Emergency Medicine. 11.5 (1993). 579-582

o Kulig K, et al. “Gag Reflex in Assessing Level of Consciousness.” The Lancet. 1.8271 (1982). 565.

o Moulton C, et al. “Relation between Glasgow Coma Scale and the gag reflex.” BMJ. 303 (1991). 1240-1241.