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•W^.^^wa.ew^s^jEa^^ _ me uiscusslon or the Suffrage Plant Consumed AH the Time. / Monday. March 31, 1002. The -convention »r.ot at 12. o'clock, merl- \u25a0 ilc-n< \u25a0 ' . Prs'yci *-y Rev. r . p.: DursawAy, D. D. '. i, i'UU-vJ;n>ENT: \u0084The; SocTetary will ;• ..<• Si.v;-' -u;ry cnllod tb<» roll, n.nd the .-, •\u25a0; . \u25a0\u25a0'.: ::-i7;;tcs ans>vercil to their . , \i- -.\u25a0".\u25a0!<: ~>>~s>-:; G-o^rRTC JSsI» Anderson, -.- ; ai: . 1.~ ; '--".5. Ay-s'rs. Bn.rbour, I\l«.nlv Thomas \l. BaYiios. Blair. ' .. i'.T>.;l,*i:i, Braxton. Bristow. .: i -... CauatrunV i.i'.' W. :Ca-rsip- : - ,: ; '\ Ba-aloJ. Davis. Duna- . \u0084 :-.. K^iß;lcfi't.on>' Fiocxl, Clara eU, . ; -.\u25a0-.; , : - H. T. Oonion, James' W. : . L . Go "4 c ; '. . Gwyn . 1i a *.r»iito tn , .; ..;.-..,-. Jin-::uui. Claggett Ii. 4 . :-. \u25a0:<'i\. I.incGl-:. Lindsay. Lovoll, J I \u25a0 ". ! v a.ir.t\ >ili ior. .Woncure. R. ">, i trre, Mv.isdj*, - ' Orr, ; Parks* tit, Phillips; Pollardi RiclV- -, - ::;;-r.. .Sm'H'th, "Stuart. Susq- :. : . . Xfcotn, Turnb'ail, WaddJH; .:;--. V.'me, Withers, \u25a0 Wysor, :i: \u25a0'-.' .<\u25a0:: It appears from the* _-.-... \u25a0 .-. i tliat-;;".»<lxtjr»seycn <3cie- ;. ..:t .:H!ar.r^—more than n. : :,.\u25a0:•;\u25a0 A.ir» :c-ci the Journal of .. ;: , <\u25a0:" Sx*tirday*s proceedlri^s ; _ s>\';is OF ABSKIvbs. ..." I: i •njove thTxt ir.y cpU^gu'e ,- -. .: be excused for to-;!;;y, on ac- \u25a0 ..•.::;. \u25a0;'' \v. cordon- After ;h? .. , ; t::r- conyentfon on Satpnlay, I r. j:bstal-ca.Tt3j'fi-os» my colleague . \u25a0 -. : .\u25a0\u25a0...-:<::) aslcius liie to ;tsk leave of « for hira" for thai day. I now nicivi ihat'- he be c:cci!scd Tor non-atten- ;,„:.-.' o:. Sa-iuraaj*: Th :; -.:..:: v.-.:s ncrcod to. , }: .. ...'.5.0F coxvi2>:t:ox. Mr. .\ '••' .'.-.-»: Mr. President,:!: desire to .;\u25a0\u25a0 tl;c i'o:3owing- resolution:^ 3 i ;.:.s.DHNT: The Secretary will :. n:;oli; Lion offered by the sen- .:, iroza \i"ise. . ; ::\u25a0_•_: i. lury road t-.s fo!:Gvrs: .. ..id. That "when, the "conven tion :. . r.i oa Wednesuay,. April '2. irci, it \u0084 .. ir.ee-r ugain on "Wedries- isy.tiKr : .n day of ilay. 3?j_. V....1 the 'Committee on r^inal Revision ." :.: :<i;iient of ; the Various Provis- :,: - v." u';o Constitution that may be .. ..i i;pcn arid upon the schedule." be l;:~_-5 to sit during the recess, and its macbers, its Clerk, ana the Secretary v. the convention t^hall receive pay du- r;::g th-s: recess; that, the other members ( : the cor.vc-ntjon. and - its officers and umployeeS; shall; not receive any pay, but i.. .! be -j:u.i.led to mileage. Mr. AYEBS: Mr. x'resident, I desire to sif.tiV ihat. the resolution is not offered v,:'.h, the iijtenUon ; of- cuU.ng olf debate upon the article, it gives; the fullest opportunity of debate, and in all. probability, we. will be enabled to vote on it be.ore the time specified. Sir. KOi3JSiITSOX": ' Mr. President. I do not tai:e.mueh interest i:i the debate on the su'.lmgo Question, but 1 do think that we ought ;to get' throu^hj with ournybri:. 1 ':o not sco iiriy rea&on in ihe' world, for our la.;iii.K.i!i ; .s r ! ectfi& \u25a0 As'w&havei»"icree<l- ea in our -won: .here, v. - G/aiave!i?raciicilly \u25a0 cted a Coittmirteb priilYeyislori'. Every \u0084r.e o: tnis Constitution] us we liave ioptcd it, has received :he closest icrutiny. Some gentlemsn.j have even ..:;r.e fco far as to suggfest iliat a comma v.gr.t tv bo -put between diiic-rent words. it tiu^s s. i::i to me iliac the Committee . r. Fiiiai ; ..i£e vision .can jjet through in a few days ii' v, .- get to work; and I, for >:.:.2. Uiink it xv-oula l<e better- for us to- rcrqain hero in. IlSehmond and atijuurn trom day lo cay. or for a few days, until we (.:.:i Si'ish our work. The result of uur home- ai the time the gentle- mun's ii-iiu.ut:on desigiiatesj, will simply :\u25a0•\u25a0 i-j fed us Lack into harness, and by list; i.r.ic o^-'* work we will have' to cuiuc bac-ii to lilchinond nyain. Every si).::i will borne! ami talk with his c0n- ....•::v.;. and -may jcoirie? back here with i.- : w £^l of iuc;is. and "jirbbably 'with a ;\u0084" set- 6/ speeches: ' 3)-io:-'orie. object to .: %-iiig" here" at all until we get through . -us pur v.ork. It is not a question at .. vi u-.-baung sufCrago ; or anything- else, . :h :ne.; lz is a desire to get through ..:.. our work, ajitl have it ready to sub- rit- lo the: jjeople^ I hopo the resolution \u0084 Le voted down on that ground. :>;r. PJ<IDiGO: Mr. President, if I un- . :::.i t iJle idea, of this resolution it ... i. .-i. iiie suffrage article of this ... ':<:.:: ctin r ,be completed within three \u25a0:'\u25a0 J :i \u25a0:.. :.' v.-.bal«. la that the idea? Gli-'OfiGB ;C. AXDKRSON: Three .- . : v:.v -. : •. S?uesday» sncl Wednesday^ .. -..:-. . :;!.,;'.;.': i ihink it T.-e .cave it the :- ..,;.:\u25a0\u25a0:.'.;:;.•. tha-t'sueh an inimtnse sub- j-joi dc-Ecrv .-. i: we cpnsic!crc*d it with . ..\.-. v.i* K'ouid be here a much longer liztxi- i:...;; LG;it bii'orij we eouid possibly i . ihrough v,-;;is this' subject. . "'.:•. President, 1 am a very poor speaker . ...i; 1 am u'.ineriv cci'uauj'ihan. I do .. . ;:hbvv ij'ow to ps.rr>; ou' long discus- . uhti'.ljpiis arg\BtJ«^^s." bist;.-.! th-nk would i ...: me U*rea ttroeS; faax long . . . through with what I have to say ..: :.;.:\u25a0 report. VV'e have diSsc-ussed, i'y Coin:nictco of tne Y.'lic'e. every 1 bubje-ct that has;, come.; before us, :i I tiiuut. .1 is wrong to lake up -the .i •. ... t.r.-:—ihe v-ery question- that ... v:;. life und interests of every .iui'.en in ii:.;, Cor.imonweaJth— and rusli >";.: i..- ..-.-t \u0084 .;hGUt giving us the privl- . i \u0084>:a:;r..;:.»;• it and letting OUr.peO- L rib ft viiat fire our views. I want .. \>ii>i>Ut. '•\u25a0-' know nt least that 1, for \u25a0. ..:%:\u25a0;• iii'd Ufiree to.talje ihe govorri- rrt oi V:. -; iv i ici of the hands of the \u25a0\u25a0 :-. \u25a0- . i transfer it to an' in-csyon- \u25a0.' '. \u0084 ..". :..-. th.-.: report of this oom- \u25a0 : : :. tM do"; Iwin inai:c rio och .: ;. Nt oii ihe subject. I have \u25a0 n \u25a0 ".-. -..::.: .-..,.; very ujfrc«ii'blo"ac<juaint- "...;:. [1 the raemfeers ' of thSa v.o:i- . . and this 5a the very first ii me - hayo Eucn arty disposition inutile \u25a0 :.i., i, pßiaJjite the conduct of ihe .: .'. V... : .;io:.iarir., who proposed to : ... .!. :• ilov.-M of. the baser r.ort and .-: tii \u25a0 ho\\ ; at v.hicH tn^ :iroph&ts w^re ::;..-. ...... v.j..'., arrestea the keep- \u25a0 ... carried hln* bt.'oiv the" judges :....'. .- l:. \u25a0 grave c:j-:-j;u oL ant'jrtaiji- . \u25a0rs-Un-ih of new doctrines that ....:\u25a0., io turn Jho \u25a0 world upside -i;-- ".:;;,:, (li-it-.n heretofore has in •. -..'\u25a0.-:\u25a0 bevsx.-'to iolicw ti:o example of T: v ;.-:"! AiijcT.ian:;, v.-he \verss ready to •\u25a0 \u25a0 -.• wiiat-i.lhcsei bj»ublers lia-d" to" s—y, and \u25a0 .-..-.••\u25a0ni tavir iiiiso ii: nothing- ei.se but '\u25a0 \u25a0.;..:.5 or .h&driiSur of aoiho new thing. - .:;: \u25a0\u25a0. iirt-u yf tnis subject; you are 1 of it. 1 wish I raij not in it; but ::: ;:: it. 1 came> here to represent I>c-opl3 that s«ast me hero, and 1 v.'culd ; f«i<;l that I hr«d dilscharsrea my f"uty '-'j I'.ui pebpje if 1 did not protest againiiT \u25a0'\u25a0;: an avtioy -xs tiiis. . All I ask' Gf this ' : ''Cuon is that this report .shall lake - coiuse that, all the other reports have \u25a0 . •-;. iliai it he submitted to a Com- R'Xtee of the Whole, that it be oxsm- ! - i Kei.-Mon by .section, nhd" be amended ail the other trivial matters have tr-en amended in Committee of ihe Whole, '<\u25a0\u25a0'\u25a0'\u25a0 tijeri be reported*. back to the people. '\u25a0'\u25a0\u25a0\u25a0\u25a0 h; wiiat J ask. and;l asst it in the !: - -. .-sti?', of. my rights as a citizen of V. 1 : Siii^. cJnd as a member of- this Con- Vc: iloTi.' . \ ' •.-'- , - " '--"\u25a0 £>,ivi3: ;: Mr. Presiueiat, in adtlJ- 'ioji to v.brit- tIH fiijnUgmun from Henry 'Mr. PoJSjjo) h;»s saidr 1 desire to; .lay 3 ! -isi a v,-or3 in a. business. .'way in '"ri'sar<i io the reiplutiaii bfffc'red by uhe jxvrill*-. . man from WSne <3Tr. Aycra). : As «i '-mat-. t<-'? of fact.- I>ir.~T-'resideni. a:»-V j^ntlcynen" (>' iho Convc3tion. t> there : wlHj bo very llt- t!(i con« lu-day oti'the ouostib.u .or, suf- ; rr zc .jH.'solutiori.- t;ivc.<; us. to-day,. i Tvitjj'Jny, and ;'y\V^(3nesfiay,/ais«l then' v lh« ! '\u25a0'• ---JoJulion Koy H tiju- firf:ates'sn:d :thc-.-;coii- j Ki<3t ; ratjo3 "of ...tlrfg; "CanVcnUoti on^lhfs ] «=T f ;at Bubjeot must close. ~-l« hardly think j 'hat j'alr. 1 thlrilcUhe^ Democratic; mem- bera of. thejConyenUoiV,. .xyho? haye.i been ! ie c-or.frrVrice-fbr J ten practical^: !y. on thia. very:qucjsitlon, ought certainly!- mlt'me:tb askTa 'questiori? v ' "Mr. LAYERS-: V v ; cMr. PEDIGO:-:- I^ -wish to^ask you "this question : ...Whether : this \u25a0thing that you have called a/;'- conference, .these ' secret mectingrs that "7 you- have ' held, : ! have v the force,;, upon the .members ;,of: a caucus; and if every member is "under; the whip and lash of a caucus ana "13 bound \to vote a certain waj^;;. or; whether they are left yet" f ree \ to . listen to v the arguments of members 'and "vote" as they please? ;. Mr..AVERS: e.neyer put "collars 'on Deriiocrats. ': ' . \u25a0' \u25a0 .;: . \u25a0 /.-'\u25a0\u25a0. •\u25a0'.'\u25a0'..... \u25a0"\u25a0• , ' Mr. PBDIGO: ; Then, they are open to conviction?" ;; : ' - ; \ Mr. v AVERS : - Certainly,, they are open to conviction. . . ' .' \u25a0 Mr.; BLAIR:. Then wo think : we can .convince a large' majority of them of their errors, if we get a : chance. (Laughter.) -' Mr. AVERS:;; Mr.^President, if the min- ority really and honestly ask for" more time to discuss this question; and some of the majority also want an opportunity to be heard, I will •"withdraw" the reso- lution. - - ' : -\u25a0 \u25a0 ; , ; . ; \u25a0 -The PRESIDENT: Tho resolution ;is withdrawn. _.i PLACE OF MEETING. \u25a0 Mr.- : JAMES: \T. GORDON: Mr. Presi- dent, 'I offer ' the; following- resolution. - The PRESIDENT: The Secretary will read tho resolution. "The . Secretary read 'as follows:^ ;Resolved; 'That on 'and' after' Wednes- day, April 2, , 1302, . the . place of meeting of -the Convention ,be r changed from the ''Mechanics' Institute Hall, to the hail of the: House, cf "Delegates,; that the Secre- tary of tlic Convention bs \u25a0instructed to make the necessary arrangements for the -change. . ' , . ... Mr.. JAMES W. GORDON: Mr. Presi- dent, I will just say-that I had a talk just nov.- with -some, of the members of the' House of Delegates, who told me that the House, v.-ould have.to, meet to-morrow at 12 o'clock in order to. wind. up tho busi- ness and adjourn." I have made this reso- lution therefore effective on and after Wednesday. I think it would be wise for us. to change tne place of meeting, not only to save the- expense of this hall, but also on account of , the greater facili- ties that are furnished over there, and on account of the acoustics. Mr. WALKER: I call- the pending ques- tion. \u25a0/: '. ; v ... -; : " \u25a0; ; The pending question was ordered. -Mr. WILLIAM A. 'ANDERSON: -I rise to inquire whether it is certain that the House of Delegates will adjourn sine die before Wednesday. Mr. GLASS: It has got to adjourn then. I- . -• Mr. BOAZ: They will- adjourn. on Wed- nesday. ;-,-'.; -,-'. .: . \u25a0 ;•- -f J : Mr. JAJIES W: GORDON: I am .will- ing to change the day from Wednesday to Thursday. ' . - ; >••:\u25a0" -'t The PRESIDENT: The resolution will be changed to read Thursday instead' of Wednesday, wii&out objection: The question is on agreeing to the resolution \ as amended. -. .: r .'. The resolution was agreed to. I ACCOUNTS .AND EXHE><DITURES. ; The PRESIDENT: The unfinished bus- iness before' the Convention is the re- port of "the Committee, Accounts and ; Expenditures.^; ,Tho;- ; Secretary will read the report. l, .". .".:"',",'.". ;. •, \u25a0/ The Secretary read' as follows: "The Committee on. Accounts and Ex- penditures,"; to which was referred the accompanying account for the service of an expert accountant, respectfully re- port the sameto t-e Convention, with the recommendation that it be paid.". .'\u25a0 Mr. WALKER: I move the adoption of the report. -.—^ .-\u25a0-.:\u25a0- The niodbnVwaslag"ree*d""to. CHANGE "OF THE RULES. ' The PRESIDENT: ' The Secretary will read the resolution offered by the gen- tleman from Wythe uxr. Blair) proposing a change in the rules. ; The Secretary read as follows: "Before any action in Convention can be rescinded, two-thirds of the" mem- bers ,- presents shall; be- recorded in' the affirmative. '-i 'i OJ-^pi s-Trir : *;..-. [ ELKOTR'® •'FRANCHISE. M^r. DANIEL:" -Iask : leave to offer the following resolution and to ask its im- mediate consideration by the Conven- tion. The Secretary read as follows: "Resolved; That the following article, relating to the right of suffrage, bo adopt- ed as a- part of the Constitution.' ': . "Sec. 1. Every male citizen of the United' States, who shall have attained the age of twenty-one years" - *• .- ,<-£; >r Mr. 1 GLASS: Zv£r. President, every'mem- ber has a printed copy of the resolution ! and I move that the reading of the reso- lution bedispensed-withl . The PRESIDENT: The gentleman from Lynchburs moves that the reading of the resolution bo dispensed with, and that the Convention proceed to.its immediate con- sideration. The resolution was agreed to. The resolution referred .to is as follows: "Resolved, That the following article, relating to the rieht of suffrage,. be adopt- ed as apart of the Constitution: ARTICLE. "1 Every male. citizen of the United States, who:. shall have attained the aa[e of twenty-one years, and who shall ilviye been a resident of this State for at' least two years, of the county or city in which, he shall offer-to vote one year, and of the precinct in v/hich he' shall offer to vote thirty days next- preceding Ui2 election at which-. he shalljoffer to vote, who shull have been registered as may be prescribed by; law, and, who shall; have paid in per- son to the State at least six months prior to the election at which he shall offer lo vote all"poll-taxes ; assessed or assessable against him. for thbpreceding three years, under "the provisions, of this Constitution, or laws 'made) pursuant thereto,- shall be' entitled to vote for members of thie Gen- .era! Assembly and a.Vi officers elected -by' the people; pifoyid^d," tHat-no person othei'- .wise qus.liflbd'to Ivote1 vote under, the provisions of this Constitution shall lose h'isjrjght tf> vote in. the precinct : from which he'has removed to.aridther-precinct in the same city or .county 'juhtllrSfter the."expiration' of thirty dnya. from the time of such re- moval; and provided further,- that tha; payment. :of a poll-tax,"as a prerequisite to voting,, shall; not" be required at any. election held prior to January 1; 1904. afteiv which tlrno thevoter. shall >be required to" pay. ssa pr<jrequisite ; t6'the right of suf- fracre; tHe -poll-tax; for the next years pre- ceding-.'not \u25a0 exceeding three." for . .which Buch tax 'shall 1 have becomedue or paya-- blc; but the. collection of" said ;poll-tax shall not be enforced by distress "or other- wise 'until It -shall .have become three' years past due: provided: that no person' who, during"- the •-. late war; between th» States, served in the army; pr navy : of thhi United. . States, -or of (he Confederate Staffs. o> -of.; ?.ny .State of the -Unitc-d S t atc-s, fhal], ; at -, a ny" . time. '"\u25a0 ho required . i o pay a poll-tax. as 'a- prerequisite 'to voting. '•2. <Pribr':to"tli.» first ;'dny of •- -, 1002,. and aj.rnin prior to the first clay, of-'-r- ', 1902, "n.nd "ajrn.in ' prior to the -lirst day. of . Jr.nuavy. ,1904. thor?; shall -ho a poi^ral.- repistraiion of '.voters Jn every -county and city of. the; Stnte/'.at -v.'hioh firsneral reE'"3tratior?!s,no person shall, be; listed: as a.vot^r'xinl^ss, when- lie offers to register, he Ehall::ba: ;::' v- ';"\J-" J r !- I: '' :, - -\u25a0 .'• "'- , ,"Fir3t: A- person who.- prior to the adop-- tion of.thirs Constitution,'; served '.Jn' lime of warjn the firmy^pr.navy of^the UnlterV States or tlic ! Confederate Stritcs, : or : of any Stnte of the United States; or ; " - ."Second. Tho son of a neraon who.; prior. •io.'thr" ;' anoptipri. : .bf ; :, -this \u25a0 Constitution," served in tiroe'of war In tha army j or -navy; T of the iXJnltcd"Stotes,Vor -:Of ;-th« Con.fed-" er.nte Stntoa, or of ; any. State of the United •\u25a0: -..'.'Third/' A, "person .who shall have paid to the." fstate^ for the''>-ear,:preceding that in ; whirth''"/he~'offers i . to , register. :f : taxes" krooiinJii"*ffM<?^^WyQM%P©l^J^ll^"sSi??-^ on property p owned by and" assessed "atrpinst'vliim^or. . \u25a0->;- \ '•'•'/. ''''A'~-'-^; : K-;}.- : -\.< \u25a0rfirourth.'-'Aperpon. who Is .ableitOiTfiad aiiy> section -of \fhle- ConsHtution Iwhlch^ n^aybQ, submitted 7,tbl-him".bV. the" offlcers o'"fc?'stratton.ianfl:s:lvela?re/isoriabjjei*>3t-' ;pTana^ion r 'V>f'tb>snTne: or,-4be.inp: an person! whb"caT«npt^for:himßelf;readsuc»h; section, of the jCpnsUtutlon;;- shsU^bb " able i to mh-v derstn rid ? andssrlye? "explannV 1 tforiHhpreofJiPhen'readitbihlmjbyJtbetOfxi fleers pf;egißrf«,tfqn.*s : Xl!ipcMons | properlyj rcplßtereiiarindpr-'anyjvprpyisJpnfepfyftrila; sectlori'shalUwmftlniP^f^iinwtlyiwrqUedi asteleQtorß,luoljW{Plubw«ent!y; 4 diMu«l fied^byisom«ioth«riprovlilon\ofithls;artl£ to allow tho minority of tne Convention" the right to debate It in: Committee of the Wholo for a ' reasonable time. Three days is not long enough!. I think the contention of the.; gentleman from'Hehry (Mr. PeOiso) is correct, that this matter ought tobo gone" ovor-m. Committee-: of the, Whole, and then it ought to bo gone over in the Convention, jost as -' every" other subject has" been in th!?* Conven- tion. I think the time suirgosted for -tho Co:nrnittpo on Final Revision "to > do : lie work, thirty -dSys. : - is perhaps long enough. .^and," perhaps too.lohg; but.cer- tainly this Convoniion will not say now. that jt mUst get through with this work in three clays' time. It "cannot do it. nn<3 I hope tho Convention will take a sober View of this matter and sly o the minority represented here what it is en- titled to.- ,\u25a0 \u25a0 ." . ' ' ; '/\u25a0 .: Mr, BARBOUR:' Mr. President. I think when we complete our .work here -we. shov/id take a. recess; but I do not think it would bo wise to now fix the time when we shall adjourn. -.It would .be a matter of impossibility to exactly gauge that matter. This matter has been sprung on : tho members this morning, and ther© should bo further time for conferenco and cousidcrntlon. I do hope the reso- lution offered by the gentleman from Wise will not be rirloptcd, just at this time. Mr. AVERS: I will say. Mr. Presi- dent, that this. resolution was not offered with any intention of. cutting off debate by the minority upon this question. This is a business proposition. The gentlemen know ihaL the question has been pra.c- ;.tically, dcterrnlncd, . and they, are given i":e fullest cppcrlunity, it scc-nis to me, tor say in three clays everything they may want to ss.y, and to offer every .amendment they may want to offer. If I old not think so, if I thought there was really a substantial ground for ex- tcr.dir.BT the time beyond the date speci- fied. I would be the last man in the world to insist on .it, and would be the first man to vote to rescind it if the gentle- man from Henry was on his feet speak- ing at that time. But I do not believe we can accomplish anything by not agreeing to this resolution now. I be- lieve it is agreed -by. every member of the Convention that... there will . have to be a recess of longer or shorter duration, for the purpose of enabling the Commit- tee on Final Revision to get' the Con- stitution in shape for its final adoption. I do 'not believe the motions which have been presented, and the' resolutions to rescind ought to be considered now. I \u25a0do' not \u25a0 believe we will have a sufficient number of members in attendance to act upon them fairly and finally, as we should have and will have after this ad- journment; probably the second day after we come back after the recess Mr. BDAIR: Mr. President. The PRESIDENT: L>oes the gentleman from Wise yield to the gentleman from Wythe? Mr. AVERS: Yes. Mr. BLAIR: Is it the idea.of the gen- tleman that the Committee of the Whole, and . the Convention also, can dispose of this report of the Committee on Elective Franchise by Wednesday? And does the gentleman intend that this motion shall go into effect, whether it; is disposed of or not? ' Mr. AVERS: Whether What is disposed of? Mr. BLAIR: The report of \u25a0 the Com- mittee on Elective Franchise Suppose we do not finish it up" by Wednesday? Mr. AVERS: . I think we will finish" it by Wednesday. That is my judgment. Mr. BLAIR: You think the Committee' of tho Whole and the Convention will both have finished? \u25a0 ~ ' •" x Mr. AVERS: I think so. I tlo not see any reason why they should not. Mr. FLOOD: Does riot the gentleman thinli it would be Vest to get through with the rescinding motions before we adjourn or take a recess? Mr. AVERS: I do not. I believe if prompt action is taken the Committee on Final Revision will be able to incorporate them into the Constitutfon in a couple of days at most, and we will have, a full Convention and a full expression of opinion that will be authoritative and final. Thera are a number of matters which have been, determined by a bare quorum, a.n<i I believe when we come to act on them, finally we ought to have a full Convention.' We will have, probably, ninety-odd members here to determine the questions after the adjournment. That is really my view of the matter. Mr.. STUART: Mr. President, I-agree with the gentleman that it is important to take an adjournment for a brief pe- riod; but thid idea' occurs to rie, in con- nection with what hae, just passed be- tween the gentleman from Wise and the gentleman from Appomattox, that if we go away and leave the resolutions- to rescind unacted \ipon, we go"away with- out any certainty as. to .what this Con- stitution is or is to be, which, it seems to me, would defeat the purpose of the adjournment. It seems to me we ought to go away from here with all questions disposed co" except the single question as to- the final disposition of this instru- ment. If a. question is open to be re^ scinuerL to be acted upon, when we re- turn, it will, be impossible for us to re- port tc our constituents what . this-in- strument really is. It seems to me there sliiuicl be 'no uncertaintj: on that point. Mr. TI10M: I would like to know of the ' gentleman from Russell what hi 3 judgment is -- \u25a0\u25a0- Mr. STUART: I will leave the gentle- man from Wise (Mr. Ayers) to explain the matter. Mr. THOM: My friend says "the .pur- pose -wiir be defeated." I do not know what purpose he alluded to. Mr. STUART: My idea is that we should refer this completed instrument to the Committee" on Revision, adjourn irom our labors for a brief period of time, during which time the Committee on: Revision should do_i:s work, and, the znefnbers of the Convention should go home: that they should then return and take the work from the Revision Com- mittee lor such further action as might ue thought wise by the entire Conven-' tion. Mr- MARSILiLL: May. I ask the gen- tleman from v. T :Be a question? \u25a0\u25a0 Mr. AYER3: Certainly. .Mr. MARSHALL: Do you" intend "-also to include, <~nrir.g these three days, the question of determining whether the Con- stitution shall.be proclaimed or sub- riiitted? ' ", . - 2\ir. AVERS: No, sir", I am perfectly. willingto vote, now, or any other time, but I believe, the majority : op thei Con- vention would prefer to determine these matters after tho recess. This resolution r.'ivefs a ree'eas of six weeks, within. which, time county courts and some, of tho:cir- cuit courts -will have assembled; and all the members \yill have : had full oppor- tunity to confer with their constituents. Probably the matter can be determined, theii in a jnoro satisfactory manner than it can now. . - Mr. DAVIS: I would like to ask the. gentleman xi question.-^ Would you allow your resolution: to .be amended ?so that' it would bo this in effect: .That. after the; Convention' dctennihesT tho J3uft"riige qu!?s-; \u25a0 tion.-'it'-shairtake'a. recess of, say,; thirty. . days, or ' for ijuffleient time for tjie Comv; miuca on Filial Roviaioii to do Us v-'prk-.i IJr! AYI2KS: "• Thcit ' is 'what, the reso- lution Joos; ovily it fixes . tho; timw.: v :-. :; Mr. DAA'IS : It al yes the JConver.tiqn \u25a0 only three days to ae'al with"the suffrage"; question:; 1 will vote for your resolution; AYEP.S: I; will'Bay very frankly to my friend thai' the «uffrage ; ;questibn^ so far as ...ic majority,, of ' this Cbrive^- Uon' is concerned, is practically", djsposcd; of and it is, a question simply of al- lowing > the minority full ppportunity^'toi •put". theiriselyes -on (record; -That \ is X really.: the ; object of f the"; resplutlon ; ' and " I \ think the^ time- givenvjs ample- ' \u2666 .' „, '. Mr. BLAIR: Will tb«,gontlemaqipfrg /' . " :- ; :." •/ :.:-'..\u25a0. - \u25a0:-";\u25a0 -*\u25a0:\u25a0: J^:--:y ; \u25a0:\u25a0..:\u25a0\u25a0•\u25a0\u25a0 --'; '.\'."~ '\u25a0/'\u25a0\u25a0.C^?%'. this Jthlngf; and rl; thlnltibjrl coavertfariPlg \u25a0 fp.w-(ot itbem^ai \ can \g«t ; them' td fconildec^ and'-linproyeXthlafrwlatronVft^'lttt*.'!!.* thirfg" almost every thin* coaldt do ;ta" lt'^ : :would!n^«'it>~Mttv^'irdofaocrdoabt~lmt^ that we may do Boa* sood, and I ask that' j ; . i t ; may '; go : thrbush "; th«'^Comniittti»'^pti'tlMi^ ,Whols. * .... •\u0084 " "" \u0084 : ;Mn W;WALlCEß:>;'Vrr;^Presld«nt,Sl r tMar?l not- »cc f the 7n.ccesslt>*| t dr.- considering thl* rg Jqueation^iofi; suffrage *Uh:?Conunitte<Pyo£§: I the t Whole and. -afterwards in I ComrenUbitS; ;Tho 'members , of -Uhi*lCbKv«nUori;fexcepti| those frepresentJns: the j minority?; party% tills ;the;/ State;^have» , been 7 "c'onalderlris^thlt^ , question: in i" conference ; for 'many iwecks^ Thoy have 1 had fan ; oppqrturii ty,to £arnend§S ,*it;in any -way.;, they ' i saw? fit..; TheyShayeJl had .all *th9;bcn'eticS'thatTcould?:be^erle~9^l from the* consideration fcg|it~ in"; Cpinmltt«r? s of :the rWhole. j.Tho- only'.purpose meritlo^- . -| \u25a0 ed/-iwhlch ; \u25a0 woulc^J make %It'.ICesirabte ;|tc^ I consider the matter -in Xoraralttee^of /wtcfij Whole is ;that debate oh. tho "report ,wUl|j not^.bo Jreatricted.'iThat ' could .be very ; accomplished t by/ adopting .a rea- ;: olu tion In Conventibn_ that fas ' to.this pair;M ticular '\u25a0 matter ;the .pending ': questiori^rbr;!^ the .previous } qiies tion ]Is not to ; be called ?2 ; Tha; whole thins -couia- then i: bo ; "settted?S without 'any ; difficulty, «bs.' giytntf- the - full-*:; cst -;f rgedpm of "debate,'^ and "avoidingi thai "<\u25a0 \u25a0 clumsy ; proceeding^'of .' gblnif. tlrst T through";- the Committea of the. Whole/; arid after^; wards through the Convention.- >I "can /at-/., tcntion further : to the fact,^ Mr.*Presidcnt^M that.' under -. the ruleaf this resolution ;* \u25a0would not be : roferred tbfthef ' Commlttee'i-V of the .Whole. Unless theXCpnventl^^bi^ \u25a0 a^: separate 'resolution, ishould^determlria:' to take it.up for lmiriediate" consHeratloh^. ! the proper disposition \u25a0to make of It iwould t". bo:to refer it;to \u25a0the?Committee:on\Elec- ~"i\ tive Franchise: %I ' see" no -reason' why;thls } 1 Convention should not proceed •Immediate- "| ly, to ;the consideration ;bfithls Tesotutton.' and," If " It .Is * necosaary '• to'; do'ibVyadopt ;ja '\u25a0* \u25a0 : ru le that will :'"'a.»Tow} the- ftiltest | freedom $ of debate"' in* Convention. -.'7; -. " " i: .1 ' Mr. 7 " SUMMERS: * Mr."'. President." i.,"and # ; gentlemen- of 'the Convention,' I;wllt-sijat» % . :that 7 1 . : have read : somethingr In"'the ' news- ! papers abbutthlsmatter^but never.uotil -, | : this \u25a0 morninig, * did \ I read^thls : resolution ;; .now .'presehtedihere; I' know.: g«ntlernen. \ that I am- talking^ arid speaking, to 100 JlbrJ eral,; honorable grentlemen/fwhohave .con-.* aidered this matter- fully. :I .can . coriceiye^: of no. reason why thla'artlqle on auffrag»~- shbuld not go "to ; the» ;Comniltte« sot :tj»«'^ Whole. We can 'then proceed with It In* ! regular order. I would prefer not ; to go , Into Committee -«>f the /Whole" until .^Wed-::, nesday^ or Thursday: but we are 1 at: your % mercy. I am not- one of "that -chlvalrle .'. crowd -who would ;- die- bef bra /asking -a favor. If I : : .only-represented 50,000 \ men 1 here I would ralae no objection to consid-^ ering this in Convention" at once. -But I > represent, as I conceive, in tbfs body, the liberties and rights : of 200,000; men, and> -.. I would be;recrearit to;my duty,to th«. country from which! haiL if I did not in- sist upon giyinsr ; proper consideration \ta this question. The most honorable man. | the most noble of the Caesars, has told | us that we ahtll hae our rights her* withr; but limit, and -I know we shall have them. It is mera impudence upon the part of a; Republican to' say that he is ready ; to go V into tha discussion' of a inatter^where th» : ( rights of 200,000 men are to bo considered and adjusted, -within twelve,' twenty-four, 'l.': forty-eight; or ona' hundred j boars, or on* : hundred days. " . : :»" Now, gentlamen. the siege of Troy has commoncsd. It has commenced -at this •- hour and moment. The . people from roy country will"never withdraw from .this conflict until Helen is restored and the 7 invadei - vanquished ; from. Ej this land of freedom. The tocsin has already, sounded in my county, "where there are I Demo-; cratlc. manhood suffrage t xf^aj\ r7 - '.who^ ~ar» raised above tba objection of tho hour an^; the day. They will resist, as : will others i;; In every district iri the State, any attempt " to invade what they conceive to.be their : rights. ' \u25a0 .;"' " _. -\u0084.'. \ /', - I aak you, gentlemen'/ tp' see tb'lttbat the people ' in my. mountains, and the 1 people of my .valleys may havsTa full' opportunity, * through their representa-^ tlves, for the discussion /of \ this . most" lm-/^ portant matter. I appreciate ; the wisdom of my Democratic, comrades. pl.>;bell«y« they are wise, bu t \ God* has so ->\u25a0 or eated human beings that nieri -of wis*bm: have, - at times', become misguided, especially in the heat \u25a0-' of passtbni" I ;;ask yoti, gentle- men, to submit '< this matter to the Com-i mittee of the~,Whole,'and I ask youifu.3>' ; ther that the discussion of it may postponed until next Wednosday. X b«- lieve I represent 2C0.000 voters of oa* party and 100,000 in the othar to-day. " •"'- \u25a0'[. . It would belmpudence Tipqn my part to say that I know any thing about your; di»«y cussions In confertriee. I' know pothing . about | them. . You may convince mm that this measure is right and proper, and la . 'the only proper ono "on: earth, and if ybii convince me that -',it is for ' the good of \u25a0 the Commonweal tn -I am. with you haart and hand. Do not consider us " aa beinjr the ignoramuses of tha State, but give the benefit of your learning, and of th« light that you have bad here durln* tha past nine months. '- '".''"* ' / ' > . :\u25a0- I; ask of you, gentlemen, this faror. The fact ; that -you .'have .granted . : to ; tht minority this privilege, will only make you greater and mightier among your own '; people.'. I ask ; only rtbat;thl» matter may- be taken up in Committee of th« Whole, - and that ,'it-may riot be -taken : up .until jnext Wedneaday br'Thursday.; I Mr. BARBOUR : I call for th» pandini ! question, . \ -;^ , The pending question was ordered. The PRESIDENT: The gentleman from- Fairfax^ moves ;• that th* v Convention -do now ; proceed i' to consider \u25a0 the ; article yonv on fluff rage, introduced this .* morning byV tha geritleman ifrom; Campbell (Mr^iDanielV The; gentleman from Brunswick (l&r, , Turnbull)- -moves,, aa an "amendment, that the 'CpmmUtae' of tha ..Whbla be 'discharged "fronvth> further cbnsidefation pf tlm sub- ject of suffrage; and as an amendment to thafjiiriendment, the "gentleman" from^Bed- \u25a0'".; ford"(Slr.\Brbwn)iVnoves- that tha:Coriven» ; tion do now (resolve Itself; Into ; Commit tea i of the" *vVh6la for thq piirpose of "cohalder- * ine^lhe "reports -,on" ? suffrage'" and any. amendments that: pnaylbe made thereto. ' "• - Mr. BLAIR : "51 w'islCto; make ~, a mbtioa - which I. think- Jslri.order.. . :": f-'\u25a0\u25a0f -'\u25a0\u25a0 - v/:. \u25a0'-"-.The PRESIDENT^ The-; pehditis" aues-^ tion has ' been; ordered: and' is nov operat- V -ing:,.; : '.-~:u-i?:v. '\u25a0\u25a0'. -'I :,:,^. \u25a0" -\ : -\u25a0'•".,- ; .-- Mr.^TIIOM; Are.we to vote now. on tha "" am'^hdrnent .ottered : by ' the centleaiaa " from"; Bedford? "/\u25a0:*-.:*": :' " -; . - <\u25a0\u25a0 -' s : ! The. vPRBSIDE?rr; &Ye3.;slr:. tha l qu«^ ; tion is ' ;on '-."\u25a0 ft'gr"eelng %to nthe amendment » bireradbV, the sreri^len»aa- from -Btedford. .if' * Mfrßßbwjr: I^can";for the yeas.'and ' \u25a0 nays..V// j '\u25a0' .' ;,.-.'''" r^-- \u25a0\u25a0.-\u25a0/{ ";"\u25a0".'.. '\u25a0'/'/';.\u25a0; . ' The yeas "an<l * riays .were ordered. .and 1 : : b^ing 1 taken, resulted," yeas.' 3o, n4yß^'23, f aa;. follawa; v \u0084 /; - \u25a0 :,'.,"..:"-\u25a0""; - : ., ;.- % : ,':"-:;.^r;.:':'. . ,Yeas— Messrs. Manly •H.% Barnes; Bout- ; , iin^v ßristow, . BrobH*. ; *B«"bwn, ;: V.~lyr, :> .Canipb'iU.' jpaniel. K i }~^'fs^,Earrnait^^^^ Gordon, -Jani9s\W.iGortlpri, Hamilton, ; |lh«| e'r&mr ClagS^tt | B; 'Jones** JKehdaH, Xincblnifc jrnrshaH:vMun(ly^Parks,JPedlgo, PhllUpJt|; Pollard. ; Robertson,; >:Summers, r Tarry, , Thorn,; WftddUl.^"aW"th»:Frwfd«nt^^ .:/" Nayß-r-MessiM, Gebrse 'K."usind.ersK>n; :.': .'W > ."* A, Antlerann^jAyera.ißarbourv/Ehomaa'rlCt. i;afha?.r Blair. ;;"3oaa/^J*»ra^ton/.^Cart«r"'? Cobb," I»iinaway, : * Eg jrlestori, {Cornatt,' GltCv more. " Oiass»v R "tv^ Oordon/- <5 wyn^Huiife tonALlndsaK^bVeiJ^fcTrt^o^MiUer^BS "Walton Moore; iPstt'tN ßfcamona7j StuaHri Turnbull; fi Walk«r J r^Wl»,^Wtlhtirt» ! sr|»^ sor-3i; ; . '- \u25a0'- : \ '•~LC.&m^%r:--j?<?:-r^i '.'a Not 'vo«»f^Mea»rf,^ 'Allan, Vißaiffuwa, Ba"«fi, ;" c. % 1f .5Campl*l!."¥ Chapmao, Cria- i ; roonU. Epe*. Fairfax,- llatohar. Flood, Oil> v, Iteple. Ort«n. 'Ortiwy^Haijeoc*, l|»ti^/ = |*arrisontiH*ttojfci| Hooftar^Bii*MiiCl|Ckl i£Mi^£m*>ufr9sl : «ebWi^ i &-nidniio*i^3rteetiil^i^ri||g|vs Watao< W««ftt* Wo««lMoa% u4TI» ' Xk# PUSSUMaWi T~ba wmbUvb mi\u25a0\u25a0> :'ter "shall ibe postponed. ; : ' " *, ' ' ';? The!- PRESIDENT: jThf/polrit. of Prdcr; is well taken. ;The""que"sti6n is on T agr«elng to ; the : question f. offered by' the gentleiitan frbni-^Vythe.^. -. .->-. , '. \u25a0'"... -'.-'\u25a0 'Xj;"~!~?- •' ; :'-Tvf' 3* Mrv: BLAIR : I - caU f ori that yeas and nays:' '"..i-'-v ....'-'•.• ""*-*'-""" :- /;'The- yeas and nays wara ordered, and' havfiig-'been^taken^ -_the.?"resiilt' .was '"TaU-; 'pounced, yeas, .12; nays, r 40,; as foliow's :""",' jJvT.eas: Manly H. Barries); lilair, : Bolen? Sristow, Brown, Cameron,: Eannari,~B.;T.^ Gprdo'n) James "W. Gordon, .Owyn, Lincoln ; Marshall,' Mundy.Pedigo, Phillips, ;Sura-^ mers,;Tarry--17. ; '-, ; : -;;- '. : : "C -..-'--:' "Nays: ''George -K. "Anderson. TV.-'A.^An- derson, Ayors,,.-' Barbour, .; ; Thomas ..- :11. Barnes;' BoaXr r ; Bouldin, ,;- Carter, ' - Cobb, Danncl, Diinaway, Flobtl. : Garnett. .Gil- more,- Glass, ,H.- L. = Gordon,; - HamiUon,- Harcly.'Hunton, :ingram,l -Claggett; ;13. Jones, Limlsay, . Loveli; Mellwaine, Miller, B." "'Walton" Moore,- rOrr, : iPark3i ;- Pollard.. Richmond, Robertson;- ""Sliidrt,; " Thorn, Turribull, Walker,'i,Wllli3. .Wise, .Withers, \u25a0Wysor, tha President— iO. •\u25a0 *.| \u25a0'.> "; . Not voting:' Messrs. Allen, Barham." Braxton, 1 ' Brooke, C. J.: Campbell,- P. >W. "Campbell, .'Chapman, ...Crisrnond. Davis, 1 Egglestori,- Epes, Fairfax;- Fletcher,- Gilles-r pTe, Green, GregoryV .Hancock, Harrison. Ilatton, Hooper, ; Hubard,'G. W. ; Jones, Keezell. : Kendall. -Lawson, Meredith,. Moncure, Thomas L: Moore, O'Flaherty, Petti t, Por tlock. Quartos, > Rives, Smith \u25a0 Stebbins, Thornton. ~ -Vincent, -\. Waddill, Walter, Watson, Westcott, v Woodhouse,: and' Tancey-^-43. , - I-So the resolution was rejected. The PRESIDENT:.. The r»< curs on the motion made by tha gentleman from Campbell (Mr.Daniel).- \u25a0 ;Mr.:TIJRNBULL: Mr.: President, this .is really the question ' of - suffrage. The reports of the majority.;and \ minority of the Committee . on Elective' 1 Franchise are now pending before the; Committee of the ;Wh'ole under the rules.'- I think we should proceed in order with reference to thir matter. I therefore ' move that the " rules be suspended and^that the matter" of •"suf- frage: be taken up in Convention. It will require a two-thirds vote^of the'memberg present to vote i in "the"' affirmative* to aus-; pend the rules. I think, if we do that, Ye will then proceed ! in order in! reference tc .this matter and will not have any ques- tion raised as to the parllariientary: status hereafter: "\u25a0 " \u25a0 Mr. GEORGE K. ANDERSON: I would like .to ask the gentleman from "Bruns- wick'whether it would not be proper tc ask that the Committee of the Whole be discharged from" the further consideration of the suffrage reports, and take the mat- ter :away from them? - :.ivIIr.' TUKNBULL: It will. That lain effect the motion I macla. -.-, -Mr: GEORGE K. ANDERSON: That does not require a two-thirds vote^ Mr. TURNBULL: No, sir, it does not. Mr. THOM: I would Uge to ask the Convention if there is any idea of cutting off debate In the ' Convention? If not, 1 see no.reason why we should not go into Convention at once. If there is an Mia of cutting off debate and not allowing fair expression of opinion-^— '<> Mr.- TURNBULL: Have we not a rule limiting -debate to twenty minutes., in the Convention?; ". The -PRESIDENT: There is a general rulo limiting debate on al "matters com- ing: into the Convention from the Commit- tee of the Whole. : Mr. THOM: Then itis the rulingof the 'Chair that that rule does not apply to tho present question? . . The' PRESIDENT: \ That is th© ruling of i the Chair. fMr, STHOM.5 THOM. I should like very much, Is., therV is any such purpose, that it should be disclosed now, because I think .there ought to be adequate opportunity for gentlemen to speak and to express _th.eir views. ' There is no reason for tak- 'irig it into the Committee of the Whole, and then into the Convention; but I do think, in fairness to these gentlemen who differ on this subject, there ought to; be •given a reasonable and adequate oppor- ' tunlty for an expression : of views. \u25a0 Mr. BROWN: I would like to .offer, as a substitute for me motion, of the gentle- man from Brunswick, that' the Conven- tion resolve Itself into Committee" of the .Whola for the consideration of the auf- frago matter." It does seem to me that after all the elaborate discussions which have been had on tvery other question it would be a - strange J procedure for the Convention I presumably called mainly trie consideration of the suffrage question to deal with that question In a different way . from, other questions. It seems to' me- that the proper procedure is for thl3 body to resolve itself Into Committee of the_ Whole. Then the suffrage matter can come upland this resolution can be of- fcrea-.aa'a"substituto for the matters be- fore the Committee of the Whole. ; It seems to me that is'the. proper way, and I offer -that as a substitute for the mo- tion of the gentleman from Brunswick. gfMr? HAMILTON: Mr. President and "gentlemeri. of the Convention, I wont to endorse the motion of thegentleman from Bedford. It Is not right for us to prac- tically undertake to cut off debate on this question, no. matter .what, wo may think. Even if there woro only two or three peo- ple who differ from us, they oujjht to. be heard in Committee of the Whole. We ought to give them a fair. hearing on the matter, and carry it through the Com- mittee of the Whole; just as we havo done with' every other important question. If .we t ehoase to make rules to govern us in Committee of the .Whole different frpm what we have had, arid which; are reas- onable and; proper, let;us* make them be- . forb.ws got iritpjt. ;But it .la not right to railroad this matter through and. not give ; theVo people a fair chance to be heard. TV :\u25a0'.\u25a0>. '\u25a0\u25a0:-\u25a0 ' ": -- : : -, —.;-.- •'.Mr: DANIEL: I agree in a.» the ger.Ua-* man 'from Petersburg ,has/aaid. ;. There <-,ls no idea of trying to "railroad this matter: .through, cut anybody/ offi. or to crowd: anyone. It was only thought this subject had been so '; much debated that it ' waa j not necessary : to ".gb ; throujfh ' the p'rdlnaryi fbrmatlties which- have "been pursuedVaa other-.-'; matters. .No other svibject bafbr* this Convention: liastbaan treated 'as thla has' been. I will, however, in view of the objections which! have, been made by the minority, I ask' leave to withdraw my motion. " ' \u25a0*' ' '. '".- *: Mr: R. WALTON MOORE r I renew the motion.- I think : we ought not to spend time unnecessarily in Committee of the Whole, r in '- the" eonaiueratlon* o"£ v this : subject: I think-" ttie 'assurance 'given^by the gentleman from" 1 Oani pboH," tae' chair- man fit the' \u25a0' Suffrage 'CojfnrnUtoe,' that "no ;'eff_Q'rt'wm..b.e";maile to unduly -restrict de- \u25a0 bate iri Convention "ought to' be sfitisfacr tory to all of \u25a0 us. . Why shouUl : " we go throiish the nih» of the -.ComrfiUt^e oi tha Whole when we; have f already discuaaed ! this' mattor up and down. AYe willhave tbTfepeat in Convention what we aojiri_ " Coriimittee - of ; the Whqle. "Why ; not into^Qpnventiori ppw with"the understand- j Ing'; that the; debate 'pn: the- Rtfctter. will | be carried on '-iii'a'jreaaph^ble way;and the end; reached 'as soon as possible? . \u25a0;•;;"• Ijjlr;;.: PBDIGQ ; \u25a0 I i^lsh Uq a?k y, if you ..would npt : -bQ];wJUiri& .;tbj' muke". this .com-, promise. Jf. you^|ll^a3rs«tliat'tblS;thisS shall:take ltß"reffularjcpursa'thr©«KU\the -f air,f chance ;to 'examine U,~ amend'U-iC : wa T po"ht'out' Ua;<lefects.\we-Qn our. '»Msfwi"l;a"^elthatvwh"9ii';lt£C^jif.. : -;lntQ! jthe.CQnvent"oQiwa w}l"hay^not.pnei'word... itoJsay: : that 'Svhat : the qomroUt«e "of-tfto'- "JVlible i report* v*ve wjll j make '; no", further; i^ebati ov«lv In-Coiive»tiori-> - . \u25a0'\u25a0'.->2-'f I ;T.^ : HM^,r;: WALTON MOORE : •:':Dpas;; not the^nUe^h^- think: he^wU^ accomplish: hill i purpose If we - have; arflunderstanding "that d,tbate>baU ib>}wUHoutUW#iwn«"ll« ; restvi«tlai» i In : /:..>?";:--: : :3- ;^v;: tiMr^P*B*)ieC>;-I[ao:iiotUWnfc,UvwlU. yl think th» Comnnlttit* of : the WliQlt tlwii<l; •Boniiiaer, itf»» b»s?bwtr»a9Ht wUh «V»ry. membM.of tbl# CooTentton; •vtn.tho^ ! de; arid ; a 'copy of this permanentti roll;?. sworn 'to by: the of fleers j of : registration; uhall ! ,be; certified :to> each; county and .city.; . clerk '• for preservation : in\ his f of fice:i Any I . person -, who v shal I b bel. donled registration ; 'shall havo-theright of,appeal;to;thaiCir,- ; cuit \u25a0 Court^of " the { county:; or ; the ; Cprpora-i I tion [ i Court : of the % city, or.' tox the f Judgo theroof ; in : -yacatlon^ vOn \ January ; 1^1904;, the f oregoing; requirements as to.registra-- \u25a0\tion shall iexpirc by^limitation. V . \u25a0 ',;,-- :' ; / i "2ii After .January -1; IDQ4, . ; every ;. male' citizen of > the,^United' States who has:' ac-^ Squired residence in - tHis r state In -. accordr' ance with % section one (1) {. of this ' artiole,-; -and not iprevioualy" registered unrter.r-the' foregoing 1 provisions of ' this" Constitution.: shall,; as a further condition. precedent. to registration, ; have paid ; all: poil-taxcsras- sessed "or assessableagainst hlm",for:r the 'next preceding three years, or. if he come of- ago durinj? the year in.which ha off ers ; to register,' shall have paid -to: the treas-r" urer of -his county or city, to"be accountctl for ' as 'other "coil-taxes.: one <?p'ilarT and fifty .cents. (?Uso) in lion: of the first'year'3 poll-tax* to; be -aeseased as:ainst":hini.'-n.nd .sha.ll, unless he be' physically disQua.lifi-jci;. make application for ;registration -in his own lhandwfitirig; .'without aid or sugges- tion.; or the', use of: memorandum, : in. th"o presence of an- officer.: of repi^tration' of. the precinct in which he residas^'-.setting, forth the names and reKidencoof hi.<s : par-*' ents,: his own r.anie. . age.', place sirid" dnte of birth, hi 3 occupation" and ; place of:resi- dence nt the tim* and for tv,'oyenr3 prior to the date of hi- appHofition: and : if ;hp has previously voted, then' to stats In what State, county or city, and -'.voting '.precinct -• he '. last voted;" anrl ho shall an- swer. on oatli!' any. and ail aueationeipro- pnunded.to him by the- registration : ofnc^r aftecFtng?:his as an^ft'Vctor. which eaitl queptionK: and answers '.'sha.ll be reduced to writing;having dona .which smc! made onth 'to his statement;. he' "shall \u25a0he duly' listed : bjv.thc.rc-irl?trag ot:el>sctipn j^ very perron \u25a0 ropr'stsrefi ' ii nrtcr - tiiic prbvl-" f-ion. who is not bllnd : or bthorwiso phvsT- >nlly.dlsnblei'?. 'shall 'prppn re anri' 'ffoposit his ballot without hid from another.-: on .such printed, form <xs. 4 may bo preseribsfl^ by law; but any voter- roiristprefl priorto; .Tnrnifirv-v-l, 1P04. ' may bp. aided in '.'• Vh<i preparation-, of his ballot" by: such 'officer" \u25a0of election n£? he mpy-nlingelfj'idecijmato^ Th<> Genera. AP.^rr.hl" sl»n.]l, prior to Jnn- uarv' l. : 1004. provide- by law"'. for' such..a- ro?-iPtrntion of voters' .-is is thus sot forth in Faction 3 of this'artlclo, to.bp hel«3 nt lonst oncß in eve'ryJyear.Vand sTiflffjonaqt. such other l^ws- pk may >b.? nocssfsr;' .Ui carry .into, effect all the provisions of. this, section. . . , ' , '".."\u25a0-.: "4. The. following persons shall " b'e>'ei-^ eluded ft'om rctristerinir'nna . vofiinj: - ",.'\u25a0';\u25a0, . "(a) Irliots.'insfi.Tift. persons.: hnd paiiphrs -\ "(b^ Those whojhavo b>on heretofore clis^-.. qualified from -..voting- -by 'conviotio'nv'of .' crime, sithor w'thin or \u25a0wHhp.ut this Stato. prior to the \u25a0 adoption of this -Convention and whose disabilities sliaU not have been removed..*. .. ' : '...' ' . ' \u25a0,]\u25a0"'. i "(c) Persons who have been convicted! either within or without th'«- State,; "o"f treason. or : of ' any felony, - bribery. a petty 5 larceny/obtaining money or property?un- der false' pretences, embezzlement, -forg^* perjury. ;'-'; '-' \u25a0 ; •"'. ':"' -'\^ '\u25a0- > "(d) Persons who.- while <\Msen.s of'thls l State, after the adoption of this Conptitu-: tipn,' fought a duel with r' deadly weapon, or sent or -accepted a challenpre to'fl.eht a ; duel, either -within or without. "tho bounds of this State, r or knowingly cpn- : veyed a challenge. ,or aided' or 'assisted ' in any way in. "the lightinfr of such -a' duel;- hut the. General -Assembly may, by a- two- thirds vote of each house, remove the dis-|; ability incurred by any one : under,? this' 1 paraprriph 'd.' \u25a0:'• ' '\u25a0 ' •"•\u25a0 \u25a0 "'jf^jj'r "5. >i officer, soldier, seaman or mafSr© of the Unitod States army: or navy'shnii be deemod \u25a0 to have f gained -a residenco'in' this State, or. in any. county or city there- of, by reason of being stationed therein:' nor shall any 'inmate: of a charitable In- stitution, or: any studnnt-in "any institu-' t:on of lenrning. ;be ' recrnrdail -as having either prsinfrd or lost a resirlynce by-reason of his location or sojourn in such-Institu- tion. •\u25a0 \u25a0;\u25a0:. ... . . ;;:\u25a0-. ; : ..; - . "..,, -,:;.. "6. All eleotions-by the people shall-be by ballot. 'and-all?elections by represeritai* tive bodies f sh*all be'^ylva-- voce.: in'^ffflt-fV' event the vote shall ibe- recorded in Hhe journal "of the" proceedings of tho record of the election. ' - '\u25a0 ' "The ballot-box shall,: during all elec-; tions. be kept in view, nor ahall^the sa.me : be opened, or tho ballots be canvassed, or counted in secret. ':'\u25a0\u25a0\u25a0 \ \u25a0' \u0084 > "7." The General Assembly, shall provide by law for ballots without, any ,distin- guishing : mark' or symbol -.for "use in -all State, county, city, and other elections by the people. All ballots- shall contain tjihe^ names of the candidates, .and of. the*of fit; cers to be voted for. In clear print; and in.j due and orderly succession; . ibutv any.. voter may erase any name and insert* an- other. The General . Assembly shall pro- vide by law for the ballots to be usec! in all elections, arid the form thereof shall he the same in all places where' the elec- .tion is held.' " '-• ' - .'•B. No voter, during the time of holding 'any election at which ho is entitled to vote,, shall be compelled to perform mili- \u25a0'tary ;service, except in time: of war or public danger; to work upon public roaas, »pr to attend any court as suitor, juror, or 'witness; and no voter shall be subject to :u-iest under any. civil process during, his attendance at election or in going ..to" or returning therefrom. " c . r"-' "0. Any person who, in respect fof age or time of residence, would fie qualified to vote .-it the time of the next election," shall Eg admitted. to registration, notwith- stanuii'-i'j that at the time thereof he. is not. quaHliofl with reference- to age or time of residence, and rJiall be entitled to vote if qualified at the time of election under the provisions of this Constitution. ' r '.-:;;»-,« "10. Electors In county, town, and city elections shall possess the qualificaf.jons and be' subject, to the disqiialincations heretofore prescribed by this article; but] the General Assembly .may prescribe' a -property qualification of 'not exceeding two hundred, and fifty dolln.i^ for electors in ( any county, town,. or city of the Stfitg as.aproequisite for voting- in any eloction for ..officers to be" wholly elected by" the electors of such county, city, \u25a0or.town.'f other than members of ..the General Asr. semblyv Such action, if talcon, -to «ba-hml uppn the initiative of the represontati\-u3 in the General Assembly from tho city, town, or "county:, immediately affected; provided, that the .G.erierat. Assembly' In its -discretion may make such lawful ex- emptions from':.the operation of 'aaid-prop-' erty qualification "aa shall not be .In? cbi!- :- fiict with the .-Constitution 7 of the United Stntes or the State of "Virginia. 7 ,',' li. There shall : bo in each . city", anil countyon electors I' board, to be appointed- by the Circuit Court of thecounty, or'the, judtre thereof In'vae'atJon: or. bythe Cor- poration or Hustings : - Court" of oaely city, or. the; judge- thereof in vacation; said libard! to be composed of three members. Vccancies-which may occur. in said board shall likewise. he ; filled ;"py said -coiirls-: , or: ; tho jjuflgrgs.'; thereof in vacation. Raid "elbu- tcj-al board 'shall appoint' the : ; 'judges.' clerks' and repislrarg of_ election, and.- |n. the 'selection of \u25a0 juciires of election -re'pr^-' sentatfon. as far a.'! possible".' shall, bp." \u25a0 Klven to oarhof the two political parties v.'hinh, -at the general olcctloir. next pre»" owing their \u25a0aDpointTOsht,; cast the hiencat- ar.fl. r.ext hiifhf.st nuni.l>er.;of votes. No- \u25a0pcTKon.nor ihn Her>uty,nf any. person >hold^. Ins any -elective office of profit or trust fin i.^ ;s Stilt e. cr ; in any oou n t v. ci ty , -. or. to w'h therpof, shall -be .appointed as a, mprnber. of the;«leotorfll- board or as registrur ov'' Ka -.i'jdjre of ' election: ''•\u25a0 -.\u25a0•\u25a0'•' ":.- -.-.-;• - •-•• ' \u25a0 ;: ."The Gen^raloAssembly shall enact'such \u25a0lnws;as \u25a0'imay.; bo nscessMry to carry into offset tho foregoing provision. . :• : . : \u25a0- \u25a0: "/Gr, such registrations asj~ may occur prior to .January -I, 1004. this: Convention Fhajl, mo lie -provision by suitably \u25a0 prtji- vance, \u25a0\u25a0\u25a0'\u25a0 "wh?ch : gha J l ;\u25a0 provfda ; f or ),tlie;"£j ri-; ; pointnient by this- Qonvsnt'onof the. Nec' r . ; essary bos-rdg" of resistratlon. . .;• \u25a0' ; .. '\u25a0\u25a0"• : ••12. .The General Assembly shall; rrovfdo, by law.for suv appeal] by "any" pppaoh denied tho risrhr of "rsßleffation. and.ahal!;a(3o .provide: for thecorrfotiono?. illegal.: and. fraudulent 7regisjtrn.ti.pn.'.- ' -. .-. -.-'\u25a0. ; ;^.:;- ...-'\u25a0: :\-:i - "1" i? ( v°ry person !qual'nf>a ; to vote .shall' be pligibjs to hold any office 'of i tlieiS j&fijl3f ' or of . nr.y city, pniinty.7nr other IqcmJ; s?ub-- fiivis»ion of the f?tf!t«."eyf?eut:Ra ofh«jrw[se i pro>ided :; in \u25a0\u25a0 this .' Constitution; ; Men, arid; women *eifrbte<»n fy??uya; of : atje\anfl ipyisir' shall Sbo-' elifihle to hold the : of ffe.e ?rof :nptaryfpnblic;Xn"fiSsh ??ll;;t)«jgunl!fipdr.tp^ "p-secuta, Ah* : , \u25a0 bonds "-' reoufreij of v ". them; ln .} thn±?cnßnrUy,r:V ; -^^:'.o" ;:^-:^^':'";/>i-: r vV ; i w;i -•. V<-)4; Th<» i (3r?T»fjrs»VAsso'mj}ly- Hh,?>juprovldf> ; . by lqw for thp ':lflirZ+.x\il orderly ccindu«t: \u25a0 of ? all ' eififlt'bns \by \u25a0- thp .'l p>«u»l<» ;\u25a0 In iaTic«vwftli i tha provisipna -of ithls-.CpnstUii^ \u25a0\u25a0 ' irierj(on-:f"ha!l ..vqt? at .fany^fe??^ \u25a0iz'ed T>omlnat.lpn- ?bfsaWv?C)»nd!dßte l fcripuW!q"PfflcfiiunTes.«»r ho"' \u25a0:At : ; thai time j Reregistered ivpter ? n.nfl! \u25a0 nl ,g,]ffledi to^yoto7at|thal next':-succe«dlhsf T i^/tiff.^Thft |O«n«f?]|A!«s»eml?ly^ shall £ enact; ! as;iir«.P.Prf^ry.as4 l nro^rl?ori *th^^r^*»^B«wripe i thpj^| a rity.Rn^ nfitr l>( rintftl- \u25a0.nd nrtro&W- aiaotlons. . \u25a0 : and preventing arid punishing any.corrupt practices -in "rcbnnection ; - therewith ; ?J and shall; have power,, in addition^* to -other -'penalties ; arid-p unishments ?" now ?br^h'6re- :\u25a0 ; after | proscribed j by* law, for- such* offences, ; to; provide tftat'-persons ' convicted : of :' them i ;ahalllbse the right tofvote'aEd : hold'ofnce.! - =i' 17.0 The treasurer- of 'each county? and' city. :• of \u25a0' the ;* State .; shall, :at : least ,-flvo months i before any.; electron", 'file with .the. iclerk -of. tkelC'rcuit : or CorßoratipnlCaurt = "of; hi 3.county : or- city, 1' lists. ?by..[ magisterial i : dleticts lotji ward^;* of -white \u25a0< andr colored! persons separately, ,in< alphabetical order, - verified' by. his : oath,': who \ have paid, no t l?iter "than; ajx. months^prior-Ub "such .elec-. tionVthb' capitation- taxes required by>thi« Constitution'- or :tha lawsrpassed inrpursu-. :anc« {thoreof. 1 -: Theclerk. within-ten days rrbm t :receiptvthereof,;- shall make -out' qs OMEny certified -copies; of -the- list so ;. furr :each ; riiasisterJai district ;or. "a.s. ; there? are- voting: places.-.in- such; districts or .wards and deliver,, the same to, ' the snerifE'Of; the Ccoiunty.,:or lsnr'seant ;of :the'eity,- %7hose ldiitj'. ltvshailrbe'to,-post f one of said copies, delay; attach' vdtinfrplace in eaid; district or- ward." "And wj thin:; thirty., days' after such 'notice has been^pested, 'any -person- who : r shall; have paid the capitation~tax, butAwhose name 1 is omitted, from said certifled list, may after five <3 ays' notice tolthe'trcasurer r rappiy.->p . .the" juasra of" the or..~.Corpbratib'ri. i.Court! of hfs 'countyVorcity'to have said list corrected and. hjs name. entered thergg ypoiu •'•••"'.• r -,-\u25a0---"- \u25a0\u25a0 :-'.." '.'The-cl-Jrlv shall also, -within sixty daya \u25a0 after; the filing: lof j said list by the treas- urer, forward -a -certified copy thereof, with ;such. : correction... as may^ .have been mads by order of :the;cpurts,to the.AuJi- ; tor .of Public. Accounts,"' who shall", charge the amount 1 stated in such return' against cuch ,;treasu?er -in -tlVc-'settl.e'ment-'of \u25a0. hi 3 .accoun Is,':': except . siich < part : as/ Tnay-ihavo- ;be,er.; previously." accounted' for,'-' And- a frea3i)nable-;tin>e. before such election ;the clerk shall forward to the; judges of elec- fiort of each precinct of his county or. city alike certified cony of £he list of those in' the magisterial district or .warden which such. prGpjnct. ia. located: who havq paid , t&e ".capits-tion" ; tax' for'the-previous-'year.' which shrUMis* Vleomed. conclusive evidence of tV'Pt-frtct-ior.tho Ei-rpose^of ;votinpr. *-':•\u25a0\u25a0• -' '.'Further evidence- ; of.the. prepayment of itheenpitation .taxes required'.by.thisCbn- •stjtutioh £i,s a" prerequisite to -the' right to resistor, a&d vote shall] be such as shall ba prspcribfd .by law." -.\u25a0_ "'- \u25a0:! -.". . \u25a0-:.-- Mr. \u25a0 BIJAIR, I have a' substitute reso- lution which- 1 wish to offer. \u25a0 \u25a0 . , Th9 .'"• PRESIDENT. ; . The. Secretary \u25a0 will rrcad^the resolution. ,' : : .\u25a0•\u25a0.-'..'.' > :< V-The Secretary.^ read ns follows: 1 - -v". !V .vße3otveil'. :i That report "'of the-Gbm-> niftttje \u25a0 on Elective Franchise ahd-f'Qualif' , Spat ion ' for"Office be ' set r hearlng : on '.Thursday, the 3rd * day : of April, vat -10' o'clock, at which' time the same shall bo taken up by the Committee :of the \u25a0•Whole.-- '-.. . •-.'• ••;\u25a0:• ;-<.-T; -<.-T : '\u25a0'• '-' \u25a0.-\u25a0.:-- \u25a0\u25a0\u25a0" •«\u25a0 Mr. -BLAIR. Mr. President, and gentle- men of j the 1Convention,,- my.' object in of- fGrrin^ this:resolution issimply to enable \ the], members'" of : ; the minority.: to; have an \u25a0 6pportur.ity. r to'look'into-* this::reporti and > to.-glve expressions of their opinions to- «the Convention. \u25a0:K6w,*-. gentlemen, it -is easily: seen that it.;will- be' impossible in Jnr.y shorter 'time for. twelve members of the minority, who. represent'a-consider-- ; able element ; of the ; voters of " this com monwealth, to \u25a0 present ; their views on : a" question which has taken the majority of -eighty-eight members about nine months -consider. I. have not had an Vopp'or-, : 'tunity" to look into this report, although I C^fiif'e! glanced": over it VVWe.slmply : ask .two '/dftyS; ctime cto~.'pre'pare:. some t remarkal'On the" 1 subject." Prom a. casual ; examination- gentlemen, I cannot say that I approve of the, report; bit I expect to have to "swallow it. If you will only give us a couple of days may- be we will-.be able "to" digest a little of it. I also notice that in' the close there is one pill, the un- derstanding- clause, which, m my opinion lisf^SlnK to " create an T epidemic of nausea -in-, the State of Virginia the like of which, TitrVcr-'Been.-' We- ask^you t-t'o give '-BS .until Thursday.* \u25a0 '"lou "have had ''nine' months on it. I do'riot believe the-mem- bers'of the minority cjin be accused' of trying>to f antagonize any measures ad- ,vanced::by this Convention; and we are' hot trying to do it now. "We simply ask reasonable time to" give our opinions "on this -suffrage' question." \u25a0 -The PRESIDENT. The question is on ajrreeinjr to the substitute offered by -the \u25a0 gentleman from Wythe (Mr. tMri: BLAIR. I r ask ; for'a" r'ecbfded'Vote, Mrl President.?:; '•-.>••- ':i.iii .:::•.':-\u25a0 ; Mr: DANIEL. Mr. President, before the roll is called, -I would like to say /simply this. There |s no disposition on the part of the -majbrity of this Convention to crowd our Republican colleagues, or to fail to ; tvivc full opportunity, and time to investigate, ; : consider and debate this measure; butyl would like to go on this morning and explainthe:report,'and make such- pr.ogrress as ' we.:can.:."VVe;ido \ not. want tO:-waste0ur>,time. ; while: they; are consideringvthe matter. -:That : is all. \u25a0- : . Mr:' BLAIR- I. understood ;thls .motion was for- the immediate consideration .of the report. " ' '/ \u25a0 \u25a0 \u25a0'- /\u25a0 -. '.. Mr.. DANIEL. It is for immediate con- sideration, but not for. an immediate vote. atr. PEDIGp, ', Will the gentleman per- "mit mo to -ask. him a question?- -. i.- . A^Mr^.:DA-NIEL.: Certainly.: s>.. \. \u25a0\u25a0:.-. :....- Mr- : PEDIGO.- Would -you deem- it giv-- ing; the- minority .a- fair -chance- to carry ihis r zintqr": Convention e^without -."going through the Committee of the Whole- at aii? ,-. '. - : -\u25a0. \u25a0 -' y - Mr. DANIEL.. If you. want to. go into Committee of the Whole, I have no ob- jection. -.' . .. - . . ; Mr.; PEDIGO. . Well, .if you have no ob- jection "tip .going -into "the matter 'in Com-- mittfteV of. the .Whole, we have no.-.objec-' Uori \u25a0'to'riie'sJrininff-now..:-'.-^ .\u25a0' :\u25a0:- _ .Mr.' DANIEL.-If you desire -.tO; go.-intc: ."Committee of the Whole, ;l do not-objec to : it,. I do "not know what tha sense pf the. body is. . •. :\u25a0 . V. , ' Mr. LINDSAT. Mr. President, - X rlae to. a- point- of order. There has. been ? 'request for.- the -"yeas' and: naya, and.no. rdebate- is- in.order. -.V -.:.: \u25a0:'-\u25a0' --...'\u25a0. ii^The PRESipENT^nThe roll call has not: (been \u25a0oomnioneed/STft.o Chair \u25a0\u25a0 think3 -re* inark3 : are; in r;orc|«ir:r ;orc|«ir:- i..'{6:-. - '—'ir, \u25a0\u25a0\u25a0 '\u25a0> \u25a0--•*. - \u25a0\u25a0 \u25a0'•'.\u25a0 -Mr. : JAMBS *W... GORDON- : -Ir rise to a "point: of narUaroentaryl inquiry, r Do -not. the rules require that- air reports of com- niitcsi-s sjhalibu referred 1 to the Committee of'thelLWhble? •" - -* •'. \u25a0 \u25a0 ; : The. -PRESIDENT. -'\u25a0 The /rule ;. raquireg '.that all.-reports .of ; committees, shall:. bo: referred- tor tha. -.Comrtiittee-. of \u25a0\u25a0\u25a0the =Whole,- :-but this, is an .'independent - oroinance, jas •tha. Chair 'undcrstaijcls,..: which the -gen*. t!errian-pft'3rs,.and pf which ha asks ; imme^ tiiatp? consideration. .'.\u25a0 .-\u25a0-". . ' Mr, PKDIGOi Will the Chair explain in what v,-a>' this suffrage report differs from \u25a0tlje';reporc"'pf any cpmmitteQ -to - this Con- 'Ventlpn?-': \u25a0 : : , Z \u25a0' J- : \ JIThdICHAIR.' - The'CornmUtee on Elective' Frunchiae has i not v.'reported ~< thaV-articlf Wvh'iqh the gentienian-frorn; CamppelU; hai introduced^ : .' ..The. . Chair- undoratanda : . hu lias introduced it gTs. an independent:pro- posftion.v.andrunijer., Rule .2t> It, may, be? im?nediately ..considered unless. Qthsrwiac' orrttiriti b.y>tU3 40pnyentiqn-X4 opnyentiqn-X If-if were-a." L report qfra.coinmittee.', .untJer'Jtherrul^a jt j wouui is*&^ lVecesißryifor;. it "- to, go". to -the. "ConiiKittee of .tlv^ : WhQle.,,But.not;;being a .Tftpgn- of "the -committee jt.way. now be. conffiderefl b.y",th.e;:Conyentjon^ : :--: ".". r - \u25a0•" ; Mr.iFEDJ^O, \u25a0 What'.wfts that thing you' have al j ;bfis'n .dolhs in" secret ' f pr a the > last : six- mentha? : We« not that; a commiHe^? \u25a03i-T.he i OfJAI R. The , report ' did :'not come Wbmntluit'commUtea.^ :-:;;;" * v - v ' '\u25a0 -. -'-\ iy^M^&BRQWN- a question- of \u25a0 parliamen tary£ inquiry/; Under.: the; rules •of Convention:, ' as .1 'understand \\&all ;*Tepofts : ; of 'f committees £ havef/tb ; Jgo:-|td"/ "the?Gornhi|tttefilpf^h>'VWhoJa.iThe.Buf, \u25a0fraga-Committeaihaa; reported "to \u25a0;\u25a0 this bpdy,' ? and 'therefara"; the: report- of -'the ' Suffrage l Committee ; i? ; before ; the Coramit» i teeTof ;:tlie:Wfipjejijl>underHtand*thiaH»?9;. PsapiVate \u25a0[\u25a0 ordinance,^ 'off ered taa ks?r, »übst{| tyte ' for 0 , the; report ; of^the; Comm|tta«^oh^ Uh* : Electiy'e sPranchJse,l? and f th^ef6Fe|it; .' l&i^properlyjibefore'- th« ~ CoinmittoaTof f^l9' WhelQ."'" \ .-\u25a0' '."--' \u25a0•'\u25a0'- ' '''' . '•"- '-'\u25a0"\u25a0 &Mr;iiDUNAWAY.v.;I J |riße to' a point. »f *^order. n - The! qucitlon \ moti not iwhat » *hi»U ji 1 fdoneifwith:? this | iesoluUotii esoluUoti : ofC«r«a | bystiyt \u25a0 Ig^nUemanii f rbm f | Campbell/r' lt| i«|oh|;t|ie! i niotloh's; of | thaf ?• ntje^ia>itrqimfl'Wyiifc

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_ me uiscusslon or the Suffrage Plant Consumed AH the Time. /Monday. March 31, 1002.

The -convention »r.ot at 12. o'clock, merl- \u25a0

ilc-n< \u25a0

' . •

Prs'yci *-y Rev. V»r. p.:DursawAy, D. D.'. i, i'UU-vJ;n>ENT: \u0084The; SocTetary will

;• ..<• Si.v;-'-u;ry cnllod tb<» roll, n.nd the.-,•\u25a0; . \u25a0\u25a0'.: ::-i7;;tcs ans>vercil to their

. , \i--.\u25a0".\u25a0!<: ~>>~s>-:; G-o^rRTC JSsI» Anderson,-.- ; ai:.1.~;'--".5. Ay-s'rs. Bn.rbour, I\l«.nlv

Thomas \l. BaYiios. Blair.' .. i'.T>.;l,*i:i, Braxton. Bristow..:i

•-... CauatrunV i.i'.' W. :Ca-rsip-:

-,:;'\ Ba-aloJ. Davis. Duna-

. \u0084 :-.. K^iß;lcfi't.on>' Fiocxl, Clara eU,. ; -.\u25a0-.; ,:

-H. T. Oonion, James' W.

:.L. Go"4c;'.. Gwyn. 1ia *.r»iitotn,.; ..;.-..,-. Jin-::uui. Claggett Ii.4. :-.\u25a0:<'i\. I.incGl-:. • Lindsay. Lovoll,

J I \u25a0 ".!v a.ir.t\ >iliior. .Woncure. R.">,i trre, Mv.isdj*,

-'Orr, ;Parks*

tit, Phillips; Pollardi RiclV--, - ::;;-r.. .Sm'H'th, "Stuart. Susq-:. :. . Xfcotn, Turnb'ail, WaddJH;

.:;--. V.'me, Withers, \u25a0 Wysor,

:i: \u25a0'-.' .<\u25a0:: It appears from the*_-.-... \u25a0 .-. i tliat-;;".»<lxtjr»seycn <3cie-

;. ..:t .:H!ar.r^—more •than n.

::,.\u25a0:•;\u25a0 A.ir» :c-ci the Journal of

.. ;: , <\u25a0:" Sx*tirday*s proceedlri^s;_ s>\';is OF ABSKIvbs...." I: i •njove thTxt ir.y cpU^gu'e

,- -. .: be excused for to-;!;;y, on ac-

\u25a0 ..•.::;. \u25a0;'' \v. cordon- After ;h?.. ,; t::r- conyentfon on Satpnlay, I• r. j:bstal-ca.Tt3j'fi-os» my colleague

. \u25a0 -. :.\u25a0\u25a0...-:<::) aslcius liie to ;tsk leave of« for hira" for thai day. Inow

nicivi ihat'- he be c:cci!scd Tor non-atten-;,„:.-.' o:. Sa-iuraaj*:

Th :; -.:..:: v.-.:s ncrcod to. ,}: .. ...'.5.0F coxvi2>:t:ox.

Mr. .\ '••' .'.-.-»: Mr. President,:!: desire to.;\u25a0\u25a0 tl;c i'o:3owing- resolution:^ 3

i ;.:.s.DHNT: The Secretary will:. n:;oli;Lion offered by the sen-

.:, iroza \i"ise..; ::\u25a0_•_: i.lury road t-.s fo!:Gvrs:.. ..id. That "when, the "conven tion

:. . r.i oa Wednesuay,. April '2. irci, it\u0084 .. ir.ee-r ugain on "Wedries-isy.tiKr : .n day of ilay. 3?j_.

V....1 the 'Committee on r^inal Revision." :.: :<i;iient of;the Various Provis-

:,:- v." u';o Constitution that may be

. . ..i i;pcn arid upon the schedule." bel;:~_-5 to sit during the recess, and

its macbers, its Clerk, ana the Secretaryv. the convention t^hall receive pay du-r;::g th-s: recess; that, the other members(: the cor.vc-ntjon. and

-its officers and

umployeeS; shall; not receive any pay, buti.. .! be -j:u.i.led to mileage.

Mr. AYEBS: Mr. x'resident, Idesireto sif.tiVihat. the resolution is not offeredv,:'.h, the iijtenUon ;of- cuU.ng olf debateupon the article, it gives; thefullest opportunity of debate, and in all.probability, we. will be enabled to vote onit be.ore the time specified.

Sir. KOi3JSiITSOX":'

Mr. President. Idonot tai:e.mueh interest i:i the debate onthe su'.lmgo Question, but 1do think thatwe ought ;to get' throu^hj with ournybri:.1 ':o not sco iiriy rea&on in ihe' world, forour la.;iii.K.i!i;.sr!ectfi& \u25a0 As'w&havei»"icree<l-ea in our -won: .here, v.

-G/aiave!i?raciicilly

\u25a0 cted a« a Coittmirteb priilYeyislori'. Every\u0084r.e o: tnis Constitution] us we liave

ioptcd it, has received :he closesticrutiny. Some gentlemsn.j have even..:;r.e fco far as to suggfest iliat a commav.gr.t tv bo -put between diiic-rent words.it tiu^s s. i::i to me iliac the Committee. r. Fiiiai;..i£e vision .can jjet through in afew days ii' v, .- get to work; and I, for>:.:.2. Uiink it xv-oula l<e better- for us to-rcrqain hero in. IlSehmond and atijuurntrom day lo cay. or for a few days, untilwe (.:.:i Si'ish our work. The result ofuur home- ai the time the gentle-mun's ii-iiu.ut:on desigiiatesj, will simply:\u25a0•\u25a0 i-j fed us Lack into harness, and bylist; i.r.ic o^-'* work we willhave' to

cuiuc bac-ii to lilchinond nyain. Everysi).::i will borne! ami talk with his c0n-....•::v.;. and -may jcoirie? back here with

i.-:w £^l of iuc;is. and "jirbbably 'with a;\u0084" set- 6/ speeches:

'3)-io:-'orie. object to

.: %-iiig" here" at all until we get through. -us pur v.ork. It is not a question at. . viu-.-baung sufCrago ;or anything- else,. :h :ne.; lz is a desire to get through..:.. our work, ajitlhave it ready to sub-rit- lo the: jjeople^ Ihopo the resolution

\u0084 Le voted down on that ground.:>;r. PJ<IDiGO: Mr. President, ifIun-. :::.it iJle idea, of this resolution it... i..-i. iiie suffrage article of this... ':<:.:: ctinr,be completed within three

\u25a0:'\u25a0 J :i\u25a0:.. :.' v.-.bal«. la that the idea?Gli-'OfiGB ;C. AXDKRSON: Three

.-.:v:.v -.:•. S?uesday» sncl Wednesday^.. -..:-. . :;!.,;'.;.': iihink it T.-e .cave it the

:- ..,;.:\u25a0\u25a0:.'.;:;.•. tha-t'sueh an inimtnse sub-j-joi dc-Ecrv .-. i: we cpnsic!crc*d it with. ..\.-. v.i* K'ouid be here a much longerliztxi- i:...;; LG;it bii'orij we eouid possiblyi. ihrough v,-;;is this' subject.."'.:•. President, 1 am a very poor speaker

. ...i; 1 am u'.ineriv cci'uauj'ihan. Ido.. . ;:hbvv ij'ow to ps.rr>; ou' long discus-. uhti'.ljpiis arg\BtJ«^^s." bist;.-.! th-nkwould i...: me U*rea ttroeS; faax long

. . . through with what Ihave to say..: :.;.:\u25a0 report. VV'e have diSsc-ussed,i'y Coin:nictco of tne Y.'lic'e. every

1 bubje-ct that has;, come.; before us,:iItiiuut. .1 is wrong to lake up -the

• .i •. ... t.r.-:—ihe v-ery question- that... v:;. life und interests of every.iui'.en in ii:.;, Cor.imonweaJth— and rusli

>";.: i..- ..-.-t \u0084 .;hGUt giving us the privl-. • i \u0084>:a:;r..;:.»;• it and letting OUr.peO-

Lrib ft viiat fire our views. Iwant.. \>ii>i>Ut. '•\u25a0-' know nt least that 1, for\u25a0. ..:%:\u25a0;• iii'd Ufiree to.talje ihe govorri-rrt oi V:. -;iviici of the hands of the

•\u25a0\u25a0 :-. \u25a0- . i transfer it to an' in-csyon-

\u25a0.' '. \u0084 ..". :..-. th.-.: report of this oom-\u25a0 : : :. tM do"; Iwin inai:c rio

• och .: ;. Nt oii ihe subject. Ihave\u25a0 n\u25a0 ".-.-..::.: .-..,.; very ujfrc«ii'blo"ac<juaint-

"...;:. [1 the raemfeers'of thSa v.o:i-

. . and this 5a the very first iime- hayo Eucn arty disposition inutile\u25a0 :.i., i, pßiaJjite the conduct of ihe.: .'. V... :.;io:.iarir., who proposed to

:... .!. :• ilov.-M of.the baser r.ort and• .-: tii \u25a0 ho\\ ; at v.hicH tn^ :iroph&ts w^re::;..-. ...... v.j..'., arrestea the keep-

\u25a0 ... carried hln* bt.'oiv the" judges:....'. .- l:. \u25a0 grave c:j-:-j;u oL ant'jrtaiji-. \u25a0rs-Un-ih of new doctrines that

....:\u25a0., io turn Jho \u25a0 world upside-i;-- ".:;;,:,(li-it-.n heretofore has in

•. -..'\u25a0.-:\u25a0 bevsx.-'to iolicw ti:o example ofT: v ;.-:"! AiijcT.ian:;, v.-he \verss ready to

•\u25a0 \u25a0 -.• wiiat-i.lhcseibj»ublers lia-d" to" s—y, and\u25a0 .-..-.••\u25a0ni tavir iiiiso ii:nothing- ei.se but

'\u25a0 • \u25a0.;..:.5 or .h&driiSur of aoiho new thing.- • .:;: \u25a0\u25a0. iirt-u yf tnis subject; you are1 of it. 1 wish Iraijnot in it; but::: ;:: it. 1 came> here to representI>c-opl3 that s«ast me hero, and 1 v.'culd

; f«i<;l that Ihr«d dilscharsrea my f"uty'-'jI'.ui pebpje if1did not protest againiiT\u25a0'\u25a0;: an avtioy -xs tiiis.. All Iask' Gf this'

: ''Cuon is that this report .shall lake- coiuse that, all the other reports have\u25a0 . •-;. iliai it he submitted to a Com-R'Xtee of the Whole, that it be oxsm-!- i Kei.-Mon by.section, nhd" be amended

ail the other trivial matters havetr-en amended in Committee of ihe Whole,

'<\u25a0\u25a0'\u25a0'\u25a0 tijeri be reported*. back to the people.'\u25a0'\u25a0\u25a0\u25a0\u25a0 h; wiiat J ask. and;l asst itin the!:- -. .-sti?', of. my rights as a citizen ofV.1:Siii^. cJnd as a member of- this Con-Vc: iloTi.' . \

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'--"\u25a0 £>,ivi3: ;:Mr. Presiueiat, in adtlJ-'ioji to v.brit- tIH fiijnUgmun from Henry'Mr. PoJSjjo) h;»s saidr 1 desire to; .lay

3!-isi a v,-or3 in a.business. .'way in'"ri'sar<iio the reiplutiaii bfffc'red by uhe jxvrill*-..man from WSne <3Tr. Aycra). :As «i'-mat-.t<-'? of fact.- I>ir.~T-'resideni. a:»-V j^ntlcynen"(>' iho Convc3tion. t>there :wlHjbo very llt-t!(i con« lu-day oti'the ouostib.u .or, suf- ;• rrzc .jH.'solutiori.- t;ivc.<; us. to-day,.iTvitjj'Jny, and ;'y\V^(3nesfiay,/ais«l then' vlh«!'\u25a0'• ---JoJulion KoyH tiju-firf:ates'sn:d :thc-.-;coii- jKi<3t;ratjo3 "of ...tlrfg; "CanVcnUoti on^lhfs ]«=Tf;at Bubjeot must close. ~-l« hardly think j'hat j'alr. 1 thlrilcUhe^ Democratic; mem-bera of. thejConyenUoiV,. .xyho? haye.i been !ie c-or.frrVrice-fbr J ten practical^:!y. on thia. very:qucjsitlon, ought certainly!-

mlt'me:tb askTa 'questiori? v '"Mr.LAYERS-: V v ;cMr. PEDIGO:-:-I -̂wish to^ask you "thisquestion :• ...Whether :this \u25a0thing that you

have called a/;'- conference, .these'secret

mectingrs that "7you- have'held,:!have v the

force,;, upon the .members ;,of: a caucus;and if every member is "under; the whipand lash of a caucus ana "13 bound \tovote a certain waj^;;.or;whether they areleft yet"free \ to .listen tov the argumentsof members 'and "vote" as they please? ;.

Mr..AVERS: \» e.neyer put "collars 'onDeriiocrats. ':

'. \u25a0' \u25a0 .;: . \u25a0 /.-'\u25a0\u25a0. •\u25a0'.'\u25a0'..... \u25a0"\u25a0• , 'Mr. PBDIGO: ;Then, they are open to

conviction?" ;; : ' -;\

Mr.v AVERS:-Certainly,, they are open

to conviction. . . '.' \u25a0

• Mr.;BLAIR:. Then wo think :we can.convince a large' majority of them of theirerrors, if we get a:chance. (Laughter.) -'

Mr.AVERS:;;Mr.^President, ifthe min-ority really and honestly ask for" moretime to discuss this question; and someof the majority also want an opportunityto be heard, Iwill•"withdraw" the reso-lution.

- - ': -\u25a0 \u25a0 ;, ; . ;\u25a0 -The PRESIDENT: Tho resolution ;iswithdrawn. _.i „

PLACE OF MEETING.\u25a0 Mr.-:JAMES: \T. GORDON: Mr. Presi-dent, 'I offer

'the; •following- resolution.

-The PRESIDENT: The Secretary will

read tho resolution."The . Secretary read 'as follows:^;Resolved; 'That on 'and' after' Wednes-

day, April 2, ,1302,. the .place of meetingof -the Convention ,be rchanged from the

''Mechanics' Institute Hall, to the hail ofthe:House, cf"Delegates,; that the Secre-tary of tlic Convention bs \u25a0instructed tomake the necessary arrangements for the-change. . '

,. ...Mr..JAMES W. GORDON: Mr. Presi-

dent, Iwill just say-that Ihad a talkjust nov.- with-some, of the members ofthe' House of Delegates, who told me thatthe House, v.-ould have.to, meet to-morrowat 12 o'clock in order to. wind.up tho busi-ness and adjourn." Ihave made this reso-lution therefore effective on and afterWednesday. Ithink it would be wisefor us. to change tne place of meeting,not only to save the- expense of this hall,but also on account of,the greater facili-ties that are furnished over there, andon account of the acoustics.

Mr. WALKER: Icall- the pending ques-tion. \u25a0/: '.; v ... -;:

"\u25a0; ;

The pending question was ordered.-Mr. WILLIAMA. 'ANDERSON: -Irise

to inquire whether it is certain that theHouse of Delegates will adjourn sinedie before Wednesday.

Mr. GLASS: It has got to adjournthen. I- . -•

Mr. BOAZ: They will-adjourn. on Wed-nesday. ;-,-'.;-,-'. .: . \u25a0 ;•- -fJ:

Mr. JAJIES W: GORDON: Iam .will-ing to change the day from Wednesdayto Thursday.

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The PRESIDENT: The resolution willbe changed to read Thursday instead' ofWednesday, wii&out objection:

The question is on agreeing to theresolution \ as amended. -. .: r .'.

The resolution was agreed to.IACCOUNTS .AND EXHE><DITURES.;The PRESIDENT: The unfinished bus-iness before' the Convention is the re-port of"the Committee, Accounts and;Expenditures.^; ,Tho;-;Secretary will readthe report. l,.". .".:"',",'.". ;. •, \u25a0/

The Secretary read' as follows:"The Committee on.Accounts and Ex-

penditures,"; to which was referred theaccompanying account for the serviceof an expert accountant, respectfully re-port the sameto t-e Convention, with therecommendation that itbe paid.". .'\u25a0

Mr. WALKER: Imove the adoptionof the report. -.—^ .-\u25a0-.:\u25a0-

The niodbnVwaslag"ree*d""to.CHANGE "OF THE RULES.

'The PRESIDENT:

'The Secretary will

read the resolution offered by the gen-tleman from Wythe uxr. Blair) proposinga change in the rules. ;

The Secretary read as follows:"Before any action in Convention can

be rescinded, two-thirds of the" mem-bers ,- presents shall; be- recorded in' theaffirmative. '-i 'i OJ-^pi s-Trir : *;..-.

[ ELKOTR'® •'FRANCHISE.M^r. DANIEL:"-Iask:leave to offer the

following resolution and to ask its im-mediate consideration by the Conven-tion.

The Secretary read as follows:"Resolved; That the following article,relating to the rightof suffrage, bo adopt-ed as a- part of the Constitution.' ': .

"Sec. 1. Every male citizen of the United'States, who shall have attained the ageof twenty-one years"

—- *• .- ,<-£; >rMr.1 GLASS: Zv£r. President, every'mem-

ber has a printed copy of the resolution !and Imove that the reading of the reso-lution bedispensed-withl .

The PRESIDENT: The gentleman fromLynchburs moves that the reading of theresolution bo dispensed with, and that theConvention proceed to.its immediate con-sideration.

The resolution was agreed to.The resolution referred .to is as follows:"Resolved, That the following article,

relating to the rieht of suffrage,. be adopt-ed as apart of the Constitution:

ARTICLE."1 Every male. citizen of the UnitedStates, who:. shall have attained the aa[e

of twenty-one years, and who shall ilviyebeen a resident of this State for at' leasttwo years, of the county or city in which,he shall offer-to vote one year, and of theprecinct in v/hich he' shall offer to votethirty days next- preceding Ui2 electionat which-. he shalljoffer to vote, who shullhave been registered as may be prescribedby;law, and, who shall; have paid in per-son to the State at least six months priorto the election at which he shall offer lovote all"poll-taxes ;assessed or assessableagainst him. for thbpreceding three years,under "the provisions, of this Constitution,or laws 'made) pursuant thereto,- shall be'entitled to vote for members of thie Gen-

.era! Assembly and a.Viofficers elected -by'the people; pifoyid^d," tHat-no person othei'-.wise qus.liflbd'to Ivote1 vote under, the provisionsof this Constitution shall lose h'isjrjght tf>vote in.the precinct :from which he'hasremoved to.aridther-precinct in the samecity or .county 'juhtllrSfter the."expiration'of thirty dnya. from the time of such re-moval; and provided further,- that tha;payment.:of a poll-tax,"as a prerequisiteto voting,, shall; not"be required at any.election held prior to January 1;1904. afteivwhich tlrno thevoter. shall >be required to"pay. ssa pr<jrequisite ;t6'the right of suf-fracre; tHe-poll-tax;for the next years pre-ceding-.'not \u25a0 exceeding three." for. .whichBuch tax 'shall 1 have becomedue or paya--blc; but the. collection of"said ;poll-taxshall not be enforced by distress "or other-wise 'until It-shall .have become three'years past due: provided: that no person'who, during"-the •-.late war; between th»States, served in the army;pr navy :of thhiUnited. .States, -or of (he ConfederateStaffs. o> -of.; ?.ny .State of the -Unitc-dStatc-s, fhal],;at -,any".time. '"\u25a0 ho required .iopay a poll-tax.as 'a- prerequisite 'to voting.

'•2. <Pribr':to"tli.» first;'dny of•-——

-, 1002,.and aj.rnin prior to the first clay, of-'-r-

——',

1902, "n.nd "ajrn.in'prior to the -lirst day. of.

Jr.nuavy. ,1904. thor?; shall -ho a poi^ral.-repistraiion of '.voters Jn every -countyand city of. the; Stnte/'.at -v.'hioh firsneralreE'"3tratior?!s,no person shall, be; listed: asa.vot^r'xinl^ss, when- lie offers to register,he Ehall::ba: ;::' v- ';"\J-"J r!-I:

'':, -

-\u25a0 .'•"'-, ,"Fir3t: A-person who.-prior to the adop--tion of.thirs Constitution,'; served '.Jn' limeof warjn the firmy^pr.navy of^the UnlterVStates or tlic !Confederate Stritcs, :or :ofany Stnte of the United States; •or ; "-

."Second. Tho son of a neraon who.;prior.•io.'thr" ;'anoptipri.:.bf;:,-this \u25a0 Constitution,"

served in tiroe'of war In tha armyjor -navy;Tof the iXJnltcd"Stotes,Vor -:Of;-th« Con.fed-"er.nte Stntoa, or of;any. State of the United

•\u25a0: -..'.'Third/' A,"person .who shall have paidto the." fstate^ for the''>-ear,:preceding thatin •;whirth''"/he~'offers i. to ,register. :f:taxes"krooiinJii"*ffM<?^^WyQM%P©l^J^ll^"sSi??-^on property p owned by and" assessed"atrpinst'vliim^or. . \u25a0->;- \ '•'•'/. ''''A'~-'-^;:K-;}.-:-\.<\u25a0rfirourth.'-'Aperpon. who Is .ableitOiTfiadaiiy> section -of \fhle- ConsHtution Iwhlch^n^aybQ, submitted 7,tbl-him".bV. the" offlcerso'"fc?'stratton.ianfl:s:lvela?re/isoriabjjei*>3t-';pTana^ion r'V>f'tb>snTne: or,-4be.inp: an person!whb"caT«npt^for:himßelf;readsuc»h; section,

of the jCpnsUtutlon;;- shsU^bb"able ito mh-v

derstn rid? andssrlye? "explannV1

tforiHhpreofJiPhen'readitbihlmjbyJtbetOfxifleers pf;egißrf«,tfqn.*s:Xl!ipcMons|properlyjrcplßtereiiarindpr-'anyjvprpyisJpnfepfyftrila;sectlori'shalUwmftlniP^f^iinwtlyiwrqUediasteleQtorß,luoljW{Plubw«ent!y;

4diMu«l

fied^byisom«ioth«riprovlilon\ofithls;artl£

to allow tho minority of tne Convention"the right to debate It in: Committee ofthe Wholo for a

'reasonable time. Threedays is not long enough!. Ithink the

contention of the.; gentleman from'Hehry(Mr. PeOiso) is correct, that this matterought tobo gone" ovor-m. Committee-: ofthe, Whole, and then it ought to bo goneover in the Convention, jost as -' every"other subject has" been in th!?* Conven-tion. Ithink the time suirgosted for -thoCo:nrnittpo on Final Revision "to>do :liework, thirty -dSys. :- is perhaps longenough. .^and," perhaps too.lohg; but.cer-tainly this Convoniion will not say now.that jtmUst get through with this workin three clays' time. It"cannot do it.nn<3 Ihope tho Convention will take asober View of this matter and slyo theminority represented here what it is en-titled to.- ,\u25a0 \u25a0 ." . ''; '/\u25a0 .:

Mr, BARBOUR:' Mr. President. Ithinkwhen we complete our .work here -we.shov/id take a. recess; but Ido not thinkit would bo wise to now fix the timewhen we shall adjourn. -.It would .bea matter of impossibility to exactly gaugethat matter. This matter has been sprungon:tho members this morning, and ther©should bo further time for conferencoand cousidcrntlon. Ido hope the reso-lution offered by the gentleman fromWise will not be rirloptcd, just at thistime.

Mr. AVERS: Iwill say. Mr. Presi-dent, that this.resolution was not offeredwith any intention of.cutting off debateby the minority upon this question. Thisis a business proposition. The gentlemenknow ihaL the question has been pra.c-

;.tically, dcterrnlncd, .and they,are giveni":e fullest cppcrlunity, it scc-nis to me,tor say in three clays everything theymay want to ss.y, and to offer every.amendment they may want to offer. IfIold not think so, ifIthought therewas really a substantial ground for ex-tcr.dir.BT the time beyond the date speci-fied. Iwould be the last man in the worldto insist on .it, and would be the firstman to vote to rescind it if the gentle-man from Henry was on his feet speak-ing at that time. But Ido not believewe can accomplish anything by notagreeing to this resolution now. Ibe-lieve itis agreed -by. every member of theConvention that... there will.have to bea recess of longer or shorter duration,for the purpose of enabling the Commit-tee on Final Revision to get' the Con-stitution in shape for its final adoption.Ido 'not believe the motions which havebeen presented, and the' resolutions torescind ought to be considered now. I

\u25a0do' not \u25a0 believe we will have a sufficientnumber of members in attendance to actupon them fairly and finally, as weshould have and will have after this ad-journment; probably the second day afterwe come back after the recessMr. BDAIR: Mr. President.The PRESIDENT: L>oes the gentleman

from Wise yield to the gentleman fromWythe?Mr. AVERS: Yes.Mr. BLAIR: Is it the idea.of the gen-

tleman that the Committee of the Whole,and . the Convention also, can dispose ofthis report of the Committee on ElectiveFranchise by Wednesday? And does thegentleman intend that this motion shallgo into effect, whether it;is disposed ofor not?'

Mr.AVERS: Whether What is disposedof?

Mr. BLAIR: The report of \u25a0 the Com-mittee on Elective Franchise Supposewe do not finish itup" by Wednesday?Mr. AVERS: .Ithink we will finish" it

by Wednesday. That is my judgment.Mr. BLAIR: You think the Committee'

of tho Whole and the Convention willboth have finished? \u25a0

~ ' •"xMr. AVERS: Ithink so. Itlo not see

any reason why they should not.Mr. FLOOD: Does riot the gentleman

thinli it would be Vest to get through

with the rescinding motions before weadjourn or take a recess?

Mr. AVERS: Ido not. Ibelieve ifprompt action is taken the Committee onFinal Revision willbe able to incorporatethem into the Constitutfon in a coupleof days at most, and we will have, afull Convention and a full expression ofopinion that will be authoritative andfinal. Thera are a number of matterswhich have been, determined by a barequorum, a.n<i Ibelieve when we come toact on them, finally we ought to have afull Convention.' We willhave, probably,ninety-odd members here to determinethe questions after the adjournment.That is really my view of the matter.

Mr.. STUART: Mr. President, I-agreewith the gentleman that it is importantto take an adjournment for a brief pe-riod; but thid idea' occurs to rie, in con-nection with what hae, just passed be-tween the gentleman from Wise and thegentleman from Appomattox, that if wego away and leave the resolutions- torescind unacted \ipon, we go"away with-out any certainty as. to .what this Con-stitution is or is to be, which, it seemsto me, would defeat the purpose of theadjournment. It seems to me we ought

to go away from here with all questionsdisposed co" except the single question

as to- the final disposition of this instru-ment. If a. question is open to be re^scinuerL to be acted upon, when we re-turn, it will,be impossible for us to re-port tc our constituents what. this-in-strument really is. It seems to me theresliiuicl be 'no uncertaintj: on that point.

Mr. TI10M: Iwould like to know ofthe

'gentleman from Russell what hi3

judgment is—--

\u25a0\u25a0-

Mr. STUART: Iwill leave the gentle-

man from Wise (Mr. Ayers) to explainthe matter.

Mr. THOM: My friend says "the .pur-pose -wiirbe defeated." Ido not knowwhat purpose he alluded to.

Mr. STUART: My idea is that weshould refer this completed instrumentto the Committee" on Revision, adjourn

irom our labors for a brief period oftime, during which time the Committeeon:Revision should do_i:s work, and, the

znefnbers of the Convention should gohome: that they should then return andtake the work from the Revision Com-mittee lor such further action as might

ue thought wise by the entire Conven-'tion.

Mr- MARSILiLL: May.Iask the gen-tleman from v.T:Be a question? \u25a0\u25a0

Mr. AYER3: Certainly.

.Mr. MARSHALL: Do you" intend "-alsoto include, <~nrir.g these three days, thequestion of determining whether the Con-stitution shall.be proclaimed or sub-riiitted? • ' ", • . -

2\ir. AVERS: No, sir", Iam perfectly.

willingto vote, now, or any other time,

but Ibelieve, the majority :op theiCon-vention would prefer to determine thesematters after tho recess. This resolutionr.'ivefs a ree'eas of six weeks, within.which,

time county courts and some, of tho:cir-cuit courts -will have assembled; and all

the members \yill have :had full oppor-tunity to confer with their constituents.Probably the matter can be determined,

theii in a jnoro satisfactory manner thanit can now. . -

Mr. DAVIS: Iwould like to ask the.gentleman xi question.-^ Would you allowyour resolution: to .be amended ?so that'it would bo this in effect: .That. after the;

Convention' dctennihesT tho J3uft"riige qu!?s-; \u25a0

tion.-'it'-shairtake'a. recess of, say,; thirty..days, or

'for ijuffleient time for tjie Comv;

miuca on Filial Roviaioii to do Us v-'prk-.iIJr! AYI2KS:

"• Thcit'is 'what, the reso-

lution Joos; ovily it fixes . tho; timw.: v :-.:;Mr. DAA'IS: It al yes the JConver.tiqn \u25a0

only three days to ae'al with"the suffrage";question:; 1 will vote for your resolution;

AYEP.S: I;will'Bay very frankly

to my friend thai' the «uffrage ;;questibn^so far as ...ic majority,, of

'this Cbrive^-

Uon' is concerned, is practically", djsposcd;

of and it is, a question simply of al-lowing> the minority full ppportunity^'toi•put".theiriselyes -on(record; -That \isXreally.:

the;object of f the";resplutlon ;'and"I\ think

the^ time- givenvjs ample-'

\u2666 .' „, '.Mr. BLAIR: Will tb«,gontlemaqipfrg/' . "

:-;:."•/ :.:-'..\u25a0.-

\u25a0:-";\u25a0 -*\u25a0:\u25a0: J^:--:y;\u25a0:\u25a0..:\u25a0\u25a0•\u25a0\u25a0 --'; '.\'."~ '\u25a0/'\u25a0\u25a0.C^?%'.this Jthlngf; and rl;thlnltibjrlcoavertfariPlg

\u25a0 fp.w-(otitbem^ai \can \g«t;them' tdfconildec^and'-linproyeXthlafrwlatronVft^'lttt*.'!!.*thirfg"almost every thin* w« coaldt do;ta" lt'^:

:would!n^«'it>~Mttv^'irdofaocrdoabt~lmt^that we may do Boa* sood, and Iask that' j;.it;may ';go:thrbush ";th«'^Comniittti»'^pti'tlMi^,Whols.

* .... •\u0084" ""

\u0084

:;MnW;WALlCEß:>;'Vrr;^Presld«nt,Sl rtMar?lnot- »cc fthe7n.ccesslt>*| tdr.- considering thl*rgJqueation^iofi; suffrage *Uh:?Conunitte<Pyo£§:Ithe tWhole and. -afterwards inIComrenUbitS;;Tho 'members ,of-Uhi*lCbKv«nUori;fexcepti|those frepresentJns: the jminority?; party% tills;the;/ State;^have» ,been 7"c'onalderlris^thlt^,question: ini"conference ;for 'manyiwecks^Thoy have1had fan;oppqrturii ty,to £arnend§S,*it;inany -way.;, they'isaw? fit..;TheyShayeJlhad .all *th9;bcn'eticS'thatTcould?:be^erle~9^lfrom the* consideration fcg|it~in";Cpinmltt«r? sof:the rWhole. j.Tho-only'.purpose meritlo^-. -|

\u25a0ed/-iwhlch ;\u25a0 woulc^J make %It'.ICesirabte ;|tc^Iconsider the matter -inXoraralttee^of /wtcfijWhole is ;that debate oh. tho "report ,wUl|jnot^.bo Jreatricted.'iThat

'could .be very ;

accomplished tby/adopting .a rea-;:olution In Conventibn_ that fas

'to.this pair;M

ticular '\u25a0 matter ;the .pending ': questiori^rbr;!^the .previous }qiies tion]Is not to;be called ?2;Tha; whole thins -couia- then i:bo

;"settted?Swithout 'any;difficulty,«bs.' giytntf- the

-full-*:;

cst -;frgedpm of "debate,'^ and "avoidingithai"<\u25a0\u25a0 clumsy ;proceeding^'of .'gblnif.tlrstT through";-the Committea of the. Whole/; arid after^;wards through the Convention.- >I"can /at-/.,tcntion further:to the fact,^Mr.*Presidcnt^Mthat.' under -.the ruleaf this resolution ;*

\u25a0would not be :roferred tbfthef'Commlttee'i-V

of the .Whole. Unless theXCpnventl^^bi^\u25a0 a^: separate 'resolution, ishould^determlria:'to take it.up forlmiriediate" consHeratloh^.

!the proper disposition \u25a0to make of Itiwould t".bo:to refer it;to\u25a0the?Committee:on\Elec- ~"i\tive Franchise: %I

'see" no -reason' why;thls

}1 Convention should not proceed •Immediate- "|ly, to ;the consideration ;bfithls Tesotutton.'and," If

"It.Is*

necosaary '• to';do'ibVyadopt ;ja '\u25a0*\u25a0:rule that will:'"'a.»Tow} the- ftiltest|freedom $of debate"' in*Convention. -.'7; -.

""i: .1'

Mr.7"SUMMERS:

*Mr."'.•President." i.,"and

#;

gentlemen- of'the Convention,' I;wllt-sijat»%.:that7 1.:have read :somethingr In"'the

'news-

!papers abbutthlsmatter^but never.uotil -,|:this \u25a0 morninig,*did \Iread^thls :resolution ;;

.now .'presehtedihere; I'know.: g«ntlernen. \that Iam- talking^ arid speaking, to 100 JlbrJeral,; honorable grentlemen/fwhohave .con-.*aidered this matter- fully.:I.can.coriceiye^:of no.reason why thla'artlqle on auffrag»~-shbuld not go "to;the» ;Comniltte« sot :tj»«'^Whole. We can 'then proceed with ItIn*!regular order. Iwould prefer •not ;to go ,Into Committee -«>f the /Whole" until.^Wed-::,nesday^ or Thursday: but we are1at:your %mercy. Iam not- one of "that -chlvalrle .'.crowd -who would ;-die- befbra /asking -afavor. IfI::.only-represented 50,000 \men 1here Iwould ralae no objection to consid-^ering this in Convention" at once. -But I>represent, as Iconceive, in tbfs body, theliberties and rights :of 200,000; men, and> -..Iwould be;recrearit to;my duty,to th«.country from which! haiL ifIdid not in-sist upon giyinsr ;proper consideration \tathis question. The most honorable man.|the most noble of the Caesars, has told|us that we ahtll hae our rights her* withr;but limit,and-Iknow we shall have them. •

Itis mera impudence upon the part of a;Republican to'say that he is ready;to goVinto tha discussion' of a inatter^where th»:(rights of 200,000 men are to bo consideredand adjusted, -within twelve,' twenty-four,'l.':forty-eight; or ona' hundred jboars, or on*:hundred days.

" . : :»"Now, gentlamen. the siege of Troy has

commoncsd. It has commenced -at this •-hour and moment. The .people from roycountry will"never withdraw from .thisconflict until Helen is restored and the7invadei

-vanquished ;from.Ej this land offreedom. The tocsin has already, soundedin my county, "where there are IDemo-;cratlc. manhood suffrage txf^aj\r7

-'.who^ ~ar»raised above tba objection of tho hour an^;the day. They will resist, as:will others i;;Inevery district irithe State, any attempt

"

to invade what they conceive to.be their :rights.

'\u25a0 .;"'

" _. -\u0084.'. \ /', -Iaak you, gentlemen'/ tp' see tb'lttbat

the people'

in my. mountains, and the 1people of my .valleys may havsTa full'opportunity,

*through their representa-^

tlves, for the discussion /of \ this. most" lm-/^portant matter. Iappreciate ;the wisdomof my Democratic, comrades. pl.>;bell«y«they are wise, bu t \God* has so ->\u25a0 or eatedhuman beings that nieri-of wis*bm:have, -at times', become misguided, especially inthe heat \u25a0-' of passtbni" I;;ask yoti, gentle-men, to submit '< this matter to the Com-imittee of the~,Whole,'and Iask youifu.3>';ther that the discussion of it may o«postponed until next Wednosday. X b«-lieveIrepresent 2C0.000 voters of oa* partyand 100,000 in the othar to-day.

"•"'- \u25a0'[. .Itwould belmpudence Tipqnmy part to

say that Iknow any thing about your;di»«ycussions In confertriee. I'know pothing

.about |them. . You may convince mm thatthis measure is right and proper, and la .

'the only proper ono "on: earth, and if ybiiconvince me that -',it is for

'the good of \u25a0

the Commonweal tn -Iam. with you haartand hand. Do not consider us

"aa beinjr

the ignoramuses of tha State, but give u«the benefit of your learning, and of th«light that you have bad here durln* thapast nine months.

'-'".''"*

'/' > .

:\u25a0- I;ask of you, gentlemen, this faror.The fact;that -you.'have .granted .:to;thtminority this privilege, will only makeyou greater and mightier among your own ';people.'. Iask

;onlyrtbat;thl» matter may-be taken up in Committee of th« Whole,

-and that ,'it-may riot be -taken :up .until

jnext Wedneaday br'Thursday.;I Mr. BARBOUR:Icall for th» pandini!question, . \ -;^, The pending question was ordered.

The PRESIDENT: The gentleman from-Fairfax^ moves ;• that th*v Convention -donow;proceed i'to consider \u25a0the ;article

yonv onfluffrage, introduced this .* morning byV thageritleman ifrom; Campbell (Mr^iDanielVThe; gentleman from Brunswick (l&r,,Turnbull)- -moves,, aa an "amendment, thatthe 'CpmmUtae' of tha..Whbla be 'discharged"fronvth> further cbnsidefation pf tlm sub-ject of suffrage; and as an amendment tothafjiiriendment, the "gentleman" from^Bed- \u25a0'".;ford"(Slr.\Brbwn)iVnoves- that tha:Coriven» ;tion do now(resolve Itself;Into;Commit tea iof the"*vVh6la for thq piirpose of"cohalder-

*

ine^lhe "reports -,on" ? suffrage'" and any.amendments that:pnaylbe made thereto.

'"•-Mr. BLAIR:"51w'islCto;make ~,a mbtioa

-which I.think-Jslri.order.. .:":f-'\u25a0\u25a0f-'\u25a0\u25a0 -

v/:.\u25a0'-"-.The PRESIDENT^ The-; pehditis" aues-^tion has

'been; ordered: and' is nov operat- V-ing:,.;:'.-~:u-i?:v. '\u25a0\u25a0'. -'I :,:,^. \u25a0" -\:-\u25a0'•".,-;.--

Mr.^TIIOM; Are.we to vote now. on tha""

am'^hdrnent .ottered : by'

the centleaiaa"

from";Bedford? "/\u25a0:*-.:*": :'"

-; . -<\u25a0\u25a0

-'s:!The. vPRBSIDE?rr; &Ye3.;slr:. thalqu«^ ;tion is ';on '-."\u25a0 ft'gr"eelng %to nthe amendment »bireradbV, the sreri^len»aa- from-Btedford. .if'*Mfrßßbwjr: I^can";for the yeas.'and

'

\u25a0nays..V//j

'\u25a0'.' ;,.-.'''"r^-- \u25a0\u25a0.-\u25a0/{ ";"\u25a0".'.. '\u25a0'/'/';.\u25a0;. ' The yeas "an<l

* riays .were ordered. .and1 ::b^ing1 taken, resulted," yeas.' 3o, n4yß^'23, faa;.follawa; v \u0084 /;

-\u25a0 :,'.,"..:"-\u25a0""; -:., ;.-

%

:,':"-:;.^r;.:':'..,Yeas— Messrs. Manly •H.%Barnes; Bout-;,iin^vßristow, .BrobH*. ;*B«"bwn, ;:V.~lyr,:>

.Canipb'iU.' jpaniel.Ki}~^'fs^,Earrnait^^^^Gordon, -Jani9s\W.iGortlpri, Hamilton,;|lh«|

e'r&mr ClagS^tt |B;'Jones** JKehdaH, XincblnifcjrnrshaH:vMun(ly^Parks,JPedlgo, PhllUpJt|;Pollard. ;Robertson,; >:Summers, r Tarry, ,Thorn,;WftddUl.^"aW"th»:Frwfd«nt^^.:/"Nayß-r-MessiM, Gebrse 'K."usind.ersK>n; :.':.'W

>."*A, Antlerann^jAyera.ißarbourv/Ehomaa'rlCt.i;afha?.r Blair.;;"3oaa/^J*»ra^ton/.^Cart«r"'?Cobb," I»iinaway,:

*Egjrlestori, {Cornatt,' GltCv

more."Oiass»v R"tv^Oordon/- <5wyn^Huiife

tonALlndsaK^bVeiJ^fcTrt^o^MiUer^BS"Walton Moore;iPstt'tN ßfcamona7j StuaHriTurnbull;fiWalk«r Jr^Wl»,^Wtlhtirt»!sr|»^sor-3i; ;.'- \u25a0'- :\ '•~LC.&m^%r:--j?<?:-r^i

'.'aNot 'vo«»f^Mea»rf,^ 'Allan,Vißaiffuwa,Ba"«fi,•;"c.%1f.5Campl*l!."¥ Chapmao, Cria-i;roonU. Epe*. Fairfax,- llatohar. Flood, Oil>v,Iteple. Ort«n. 'Ortiwy^Haijeoc*, l|»ti^/= |*arrisontiH*ttojfci|Hooftar^Bii*MiiCl|Ckl

i£Mi^£m*>ufr9sl:«ebWi^i&-nidniio*i^3rteetiil^i^ri||g|vsWatao< W««ftt* Wo««lMoa% u4TI»

'Xk# PUSSUMaWi T~ba wmbUvbmi\u25a0\u25a0>

:'ter "shall ibe postponed. ;:' "

*,''

';? The!- PRESIDENT: jThf/polrit. of Prdcr;is well taken. ;The""que"sti6n is onTagr«elngto;the:question f.offered by' the gentleiitanfrbni-^Vythe.^. -. .->-. , '. \u25a0'"... -'.-'\u25a0 'Xj;"~!~?- •' ;:'-Tvf'3*Mrv:BLAIR:I

-caU fori that yeas and

nays:' '"..i-'-v ....'-'•.• ""*-*'-""":-/;'The- yeas and nays wara ordered, and'havfiig-'been^taken^ -_the.?"resiilt' .was '"TaU-;'pounced, yeas, .12; nays,r 40,; as foliow's:""",'jJvT.eas: Manly H. Barries); lilair,:Bolen?Sristow, Brown, Cameron,: Eannari,~B.;T.^Gprdo'n) James "W. Gordon, .Owyn, Lincoln;Marshall,' Mundy.Pedigo, Phillips, ;Sura-^mers,;Tarry--17. ;'-,;:-;;- '. : :"C -..-'--:'"Nays: ''George -K."Anderson. TV.-'A.^An-

derson, Ayors,,.-' Barbour, .;;Thomas ..- :11.Barnes;' BoaXr

r;Bouldin, ,;-Carter,

'-Cobb,

Danncl, Diinaway, Flobtl.: Garnett. .Gil-more,- Glass, ,H.- L. = Gordon,; -

HamiUon,-Harcly.'Hunton, :ingram,l -Claggett; ;13.Jones, Limlsay,.Loveli;Mellwaine, Miller,B." "'Walton" Moore,- rOrr,:iPark3i ;-Pollard..Richmond, Robertson;- ""Sliidrt,;

"Thorn,

Turribull, Walker,'i,Wllli3. .Wise, .Withers,\u25a0Wysor, tha President— iO. •\u25a0 *.| \u25a0'.> ";. Not voting:'Messrs. Allen, Barham."Braxton,1'Brooke, C. J.: Campbell,- P. >W."Campbell, .'Chapman, ...Crisrnond. Davis,1

Egglestori,- Epes, Fairfax;-Fletcher,- Gilles-rpTe, Green, GregoryV .Hancock, Harrison.Ilatton, Hooper, ;Hubard,'G. W. ;Jones,Keezell. : Kendall. -Lawson, Meredith,.Moncure, Thomas L:Moore, O'Flaherty,

Petti t, Por tlock. Quartos, > Rives, Smith \u25a0

Stebbins, Thornton.~

-Vincent, -\.Waddill,Walter, Watson, Westcott, vWoodhouse,:and' Tancey-^-43. , -I-So the resolution was rejected.

The PRESIDENT:.. The r»<curs on the motion made by tha gentlemanfrom Campbell (Mr.Daniel).- \u25a0

;Mr.:TIJRNBULL: Mr.: President, this.is really the question

'of

-suffrage. The

reports of the majority.;and \minority ofthe Committee .on Elective'1Franchise arenow pending before the; Committee of the;Wh'ole under the rules.'- Ithink we shouldproceed in• order with reference to thirmatter. Itherefore

'move that the

"rules

be suspended and^that the matter" of•"suf-frage: be taken up in Convention. Itwillrequire a two-thirds vote^of the'membergpresent to vote iin"the"'affirmative* to aus-;pend the rules. Ithink, ifwe do that, Yewill then proceed !in order in!reference tc.this matter and willnot have any ques-tionraised as to the parllariientary: statushereafter: "\u25a0

"

\u25a0 Mr. GEORGE K.ANDERSON: Iwouldlike .to ask the gentleman from "Bruns-wick'whether it would not be proper tcask that the Committee of the Whole bedischarged from" the further considerationof the suffrage reports, and take the mat-ter :away from them?

-:.ivIIr.'TUKNBULL: It will. That laineffect the motion Imacla. -.-,-Mr: GEORGE K. ANDERSON: Thatdoes not require a two-thirds vote^

Mr.TURNBULL: No, sir, it does not.Mr. THOM: Iwould Uge to ask the

Convention if there is any idea of cuttingoff debate In the

'Convention? Ifnot, 1

see no.reason why we should not go intoConvention at once. Ifthere is anMiaof cutting off debate and not allowingfair expression of opinion-^—'<> Mr.- TURNBULL: Have we not a rulelimiting-debate to twenty minutes., in theConvention?;". The -PRESIDENT: There is a generalrulo limitingdebate on al "matters com-ing:into the Convention from the Commit-tee of the Whole.: Mr.THOM: Then itis the rulingof the

'Chair that that rule does not apply totho present question? ..The'PRESIDENT: \ That is th© rulingofithe Chair.fMr,

STHOM.5THOM. Ishould like very much,

Is., therV is any such purpose, that itshould be disclosed now, because Ithink

.there ought to be adequate opportunityfor gentlemen to speak and to express

_th.eir views.'There is no reason for tak-

'irig it into the Committee of the Whole,and then into the Convention; but Idothink, in fairness to these gentlemen whodiffer on this subject, there ought to;be•given a reasonable and adequate oppor-'tunlty for an expression :of views. \u25a0

Mr. BROWN: Iwould like to .offer, asa substitute for me motion, of the gentle-man from Brunswick, that' the Conven-tion resolve Itself into Committee" of the

.Whola for the consideration of the auf-frago matter." It does seem to me thatafter all the elaborate discussions whichhave been had on tvery other question itwould be a

-strange J

procedure for theConvention Ipresumably called mainlytrie consideration of the suffrage questionto deal with that question In a differentway. from, other questions. It seems to'me- that the proper procedure is for thl3body to resolve itself Into Committee ofthe_ Whole. Then the suffrage matter cancome upland this resolution can be of-fcrea-.aa'a"substituto for the matters be-fore the Committee of the Whole. ; Itseems to me that is'the. proper way, andIoffer -that as a substitute for the mo-tion of the gentleman from Brunswick.

gfMr? HAMILTON: Mr. President and"gentlemeri. of the Convention, Iwont toendorse the motion of thegentleman fromBedford. ItIs not right for us to prac-tically undertake to cut off debate on thisquestion, no. matter .what, wo may think.Even if there woro only two or three peo-ple who differ from us, they oujjht to.beheard in Committee of the Whole. Weought to give them a fair.hearing on thematter, and carry it through the Com-mittee of the Whole; just as we havo donewith' every other important question. If

.we t ehoase to make rules to govern us inCommittee of the .Whole different frpm

what we have had, arid which; are reas-onable and; proper, let;us* make them be-

.forb.ws got iritpjt. ;But it.la not right torailroad this matter through and. notgive ;theVo people a fair chance to beheard. TV :\u25a0'.\u25a0>. '\u25a0\u25a0:-\u25a0 '":

-- :: -, —.;-.-•'.Mr: DANIEL: Iagree ina.» the ger.Ua-*man 'from Petersburg ,has/aaid. ;. There <-,lsno idea of trying to"railroad this matter:.through, cut anybody/ offi. or to crowd:anyone. Itwas only thought this subject

had been so ';much debated that it'waa j

not necessary :to".gb;throujfh'the p'rdlnaryi

fbrmatlties which- have "been pursuedVaaother-.-'; matters. .No other svibject bafbr*this Convention: liastbaan treated 'as thlahas' been. Iwill, however, in view of theobjections which!have, been made by theminority, Iask' leave to withdraw my

motion." ' \u25a0*'

''. '".-

*: Mr: R. WALTON MOORErIrenewthe motion.- Ithink :we ought not tospend time unnecessarily in Committee of

•the Whole, rin'-the" eonaiueratlon* o"£v this:subject: Ithink-" ttie 'assurance 'given^bythe gentleman from"

1 OanipboH," tae' chair-man fit the' \u25a0' Suffrage 'CojfnrnUtoe,' that "no

;'eff_Q'rt'wm..b.e";maile to unduly-restrict de-\u25a0bate iri Convention "ought to' be sfitisfacrtory to all of \u25a0 us. .Why • shouUl :

"we go

throiish the nih» of the -.ComrfiUt^e oi thaWhole when we;havefalready discuaaed !this' mattor up and down. AYe willhavetbTfepeat in Convention what we aojiri_"Coriimittee

-of; the Whqle. "Why ;not

into^Qpnventiori ppw with"the understand- jIng';that the; debate 'pn: the- Rtfctter. will|be carried on'-iii'a'jreaaph^ble way;and theend; reached 'as soon as possible? . \u25a0;•;;"•Ijjlr;;.:PBDIGQ;\u25a0Ii^lsh Uq a?k y, if you..would npt:-bQ];wJUiri&.;tbj'muke". this .com-,promise. Jf.you^|ll^a3rs«tliat'tblS;thisSshall:take ltß"reffularjcpursa'thr©«KU\the

-fair,fchance ;to 'examine U,~ amend'U-iC :waTpo"ht'out'Ua;<lefects.\we-Qn our.

'»Msfwi"l;a"^elthatvwh"9ii';lt£C^jif..:-;lntQ!jthe.CQnvent"oQiwa w}l"hay^not.pnei'word...itoJsay: :that 'Svhat :the qomroUt«e "of-tfto'-"JVlibleireport* v*ve wjlljmake';no", further;

i^ebati ov«lv In-Coiive»tiori-> -.\u25a0'\u25a0'.->2-'fI;T.^:HM^,r;:WALTON MOORE:•:':Dpas;; notthe^nUe^h^- think: he^wU^ accomplish:hillipurpose If we

-have; arflunderstanding"that d,tbate>baU ib>}wUHoutUW#iwn«"ll«;restvi«tlai»iIn :/:..>?";:--:::3- ;^v;:tiMr^P*B*)ieC>;-I[ao:iiotUWnfc,UvwlU.ylthink th» Comnnlttit* of:the WliQlt tlwii<l;

•Boniiiaer, itf»» b»s?bwtr»a9Ht wUh «V»ry.

membM.of tbl# CooTentton; •vtn.tho^

!de; •arid;a 'copy of this permanentti roll;?.sworn 'to by:the offleers jof:registration;uhall!,be; certified :to>each; county and .city.;.clerk '• for preservation :in\his fof fice:i AnyI. person -,who vshalIbbel. donled registration ;

'shall havo-theright of,appeal;to;thaiCir,-;cuit \u25a0Court^of"the{county:;or;the ;Cprpora-i

Ition[

iCourt:of the %city, or.' toxthe fJudgotheroof ;in:-yacatlon^ vOn\January ;1^1904;,the foregoing; requirements as to.registra--

\u25a0\tion shall iexpirc by^limitation. V. \u25a0 ',;,--:';/i "2iiAfter .January -1; IDQ4, .;every ;.male'citizen of > the,^United' States who has:' ac-^

Squired residence in-tHis rstate In-.accordr'ance with% section one (1){.of this 'artiole,-;

-and not iprevioualy" registered unrter.r-the'foregoing 1provisions of

'this" Constitution.:

shall,; as a further condition. precedent. toregistration, ;have paid ;all: poil-taxcsras-sessed "or assessableagainst hlm",for:rthe'next preceding three years, or. ifhe comeof- ago durinj? the year in.which ha offers;to register,' shall have paid -to: the treas-r"urer of-his county or city, to"be accountctlfor

'as 'other "coil-taxes.: one <?p'ilarT and

fifty.cents. (?Uso) in lion:of the first'year'3poll-tax*to;be -aeseased as:ainst":hini.'-n.nd

.sha.ll, unless he be'physically disQua.lifi-jci;.make application for ;registration -in hisown lhandwfitirig;.'without aid or sugges-tion.;or the', use of:memorandum, :in. th"opresence of an- officer.: of repi^tration' of.the precinct in which he residas^'-.setting,forth the names and reKidencoof hi.<s :par-*'ents,: his own r.anie. . age.', place sirid" dnteof birth, hi3occupation" and ;place of:resi-dence nt the tim* and for tv,'oyenr3 priorto the date of hi- appHofition: and :if;hphas previously voted, then' to stats Inwhat State, county or city, and -'.voting

'.precinct -•he '. last voted;" anrl ho shall an-swer. on oatli!' any.and ail aueationeipro-pnunded.to him by the- registration :ofnc^raftecFtng?:his as an^ft'Vctor.which eaitl queptionK: and answers '.'sha.llbe reduced to writing;having dona .whichsmc! made onth 'to his statement;. he' "shall

\u25a0he duly'listed :bjv.thc.rc-irl?trag ot:el>sctipnj v̂ery perron \u25a0 ropr'stsrefi

'iinrtcr

-tiiic prbvl-"

f-ion. who is not bllnd:or bthorwiso phvsT->nlly.dlsnblei'?. 'shall 'prppnre anri''ffoposithis ballot without hid from another.-: on.such printed, form <xs.4 may bo preseribsfl^by law; but any voter- roiristprefl priorto;.Tnrnifirv-v-l, 1P04.

'may bp. aided in'.'• Vh<i

preparation-, of his ballot" by:such 'officer"\u25a0of election n£? he mpy-nlingelfj'idecijmato^Th<> Genera. AP.^rr.hl" sl»n.]l, prior to Jnn-uarv' l.:1004. provide- by law"'.for' such..a-ro?-iPtrntion of voters' .-is is thus sot forthin Faction 3 of this'artlclo, to.bp hel«3 ntlonst oncß in eve'ryJyear.Vand sTiflffjonaqt.such other l^ws- pk may >b.? nocssfsr;' .Uicarry .into, effect all the provisions of. this,section. . . ,

' , '".."\u25a0-.:"4. The. following persons shall

"

b'e>'ei-^eluded ft'om rctristerinir'nna . vofiinj:- ",.'\u25a0';\u25a0, .

"(a) Irliots.'insfi.Tift. persons.: hnd paiiphrs -\"(b^ Those whojhavo b>on heretofore clis^-..qualified from -..voting- -by 'conviotio'nv'of .'crime, sithor w'thin or \u25a0wHhp.ut this Stato.prior to the \u25a0 adoption of this -Conventionand whose disabilities sliaU not have beenremoved..*. .. '

:'...'' . '

\u25a0,]\u25a0"'.i"(c) Persons who have been convicted!either within or without th'«- State,; "o"ftreason. or :of

'any felony, -

bribery. apetty5

larceny/obtaining money or property?un-der false' pretences, embezzlement, -forg^*

perjury. ;'-'; '-'\u25a0 ; •"'. ':"' -'\^ '\u25a0- >

"(d) Persons who.- while <\Msen.s of'thls lState, after the adoption of this Conptitu-:tipn,' fought a duel with r'deadly weapon,or sent or -accepted a challenpre to'fl.ehta ; duel, either -within or without. "thobounds of this State, r or knowingly cpn- :veyed a challenge. ,or aided' or 'assisted

'in

any way in."the lightinfr of such -a' duel;-hut the. General -Assembly may, by a- two-thirds vote of each house, remove the dis-|;ability incurred by any one :under,? this' 1

paraprriph 'd.' \u25a0:'•'

'\u25a0 ' •" •\u25a0 \u25a0 "'jf^jj'r"5.>iofficer, soldier, seaman or mafSr©

of the Unitod States army: or navy'shniibe deemod \u25a0 to havef gained -a residenco'in'this State, or.in any. county or city there-of, by reason of being stationed therein:'nor shall any 'inmate: of a charitable In-stitution, or:any studnnt-in "any institu-'t:on of lenrning. ;be 'recrnrdail -as havingeither prsinfrd or lost a resirlynce by-reasonof his location or sojourn in such-Institu-tion. •\u25a0 \u25a0;\u25a0:. ... . . ;;:\u25a0-. ; :..;

-. "..,, -,:;..

"6. All eleotions-by the people shall-beby ballot. 'and-all?elections by represeritai*tive bodies fsh*all be'^ylva-- voce.: in'^ffflt-fV'event the vote shall ibe- recorded inHhejournal"of the" proceedings of tho recordof the election.

' -'\u25a0'

"The ballot-box shall,: during all elec-;tions. be kept in view, nor ahall^the sa.me :be opened, or tho ballots be canvassed, orcounted in secret. ':'\u25a0\u25a0\u25a0 \ \u25a0'

\u0084 >"7." The General Assembly, shall provide

by law for ballots without, any,distin-guishing :mark' or symbol -.for "use in-allState, county, city, and other elections bythe people. Allballots- shall contain tjihe^names of the candidates, .and of.the*offit;cers to be voted for. In clear print;and in.jdue and orderly succession; .ibutv any..voter may erase any name and insert* an-other. The General. Assembly shall pro-vide by law for the ballots to be usec! inall elections, arid the form thereof shallhe the same in all places where' the elec-.tion is held.'

" '-• • ' -.'•B. No voter, during the time of holding

'any election at which ho is entitled tovote,, shall be compelled to perform mili-

\u25a0'tary ;service, except in time: of war orpublic danger; to work upon public roaas,

»pr to attend any court as suitor, juror, or'witness; and no voter shall be subject to:u-iest under any. civil process during,hisattendance at election or in going ..to"orreturning therefrom.

"c.r"-'

"0. Any person who, in respect fof ageor time of residence, would fie qualifiedto vote .-it the time of the next election,"shall Eg admitted. to registration, notwith-stanuii'-i'j that at the time thereof he. is not.quaHliofl with reference- to age or time ofresidence, and rJiall be entitled to vote ifqualified at the time of election under theprovisions of this Constitution.

' r '.-:;;»-,«

"10. Electors In county, town, and city

elections shall possess the qualificaf.jonsand be' subject, to the disqiialincations

heretofore prescribed by this article; but]the General Assembly .may prescribe' a-property qualification of 'not exceedingtwo hundred, and fifty dolln.i^ for electorsin(any county, town,. or city of the Stfitgas.aproequisite for voting- in any eloctionfor ..officers to be"wholly elected by" theelectors of such county, city, \u25a0or.town.'fother than members of..the General Asr.semblyv Such action, if talcon, -to «ba-hmluppn the initiative of the represontati\-u3in the General Assembly from tho city,town, or "county:, immediately affected;provided, that the .G.erierat. Assembly' Inits -discretion may make such lawful ex-emptions from':.the operation of 'aaid-prop-'erty qualification "aa shall not be .In? cbi!-:-fiict with the .-Constitution 7 of the UnitedStntes or the State of• "Virginia. 7

,','li. There shall : bo in each . city",anilcountyon electors I'board, to be appointed-by the Circuit Court of thecounty, or'the,judtre

•thereof In'vae'atJon: or. bythe Cor-poration or Hustings :-Court" of oaely city,or. the; judge- thereof in vacation; saidlibard!to be composed of three members.Vccancies-which may occur.in said boardshall likewise. he ;filled ;"py said -coiirls-:,or:;tho jjuflgrgs.';thereof in vacation. Raid "elbu-tcj-al board 'shall appoint' the :;'judges.'clerks' and repislrarg of_ election, and.- |n.the 'selection of \u25a0 juciires of election -re'pr^-'sentatfon. as far a.'! possible".' shall, bp."

\u25a0Klven to oarhof the two political partiesv.'hinh, -at the general olcctloir. next pre»"owing their \u25a0aDpointTOsht,; cast the hiencat-ar.fl. r.ext hiifhf.st nuni.l>er.;of votes. No-

\u25a0pcTKon.nor ihn Her>uty,nf any. person >hold^.Ins any -elective office of profit or trust fini. ;̂s Stilt e. cr ;inany oountv.•city,-.or.tow'htherpof, shall -be .appointed as a, mprnber.of the;«leotorfll- board or as registrur ov''Ka -.i'jdjre of 'election: ''•\u25a0 -.\u25a0•\u25a0'•' ":.- -.-.-;•

- •-•• '\u25a0

;: ."The Gen^raloAssembly shall enact'such\u25a0lnws;as \u25a0'imay.; bo nscessMry to carry intooffset tho foregoing provision. . :• :. : \u25a0- \u25a0:

"/Gr, such registrations asj~ may occurprior to .January -I,1004. this: ConventionFhajl, mo lie -provision by suitably \u25a0 prtji-vance, \u25a0\u25a0\u25a0'\u25a0 "wh?ch :gha Jl;\u25a0 provfda ;for),tlie;"£jri-;;pointnient by this- Qonvsnt'onof the. Nec'r.;essary bos-rdg" of resistratlon. ..;• \u25a0';..'\u25a0\u25a0"• :

••12. .The General Assembly shall; rrovfdo,by law.for suv appeal]by"any"pppaoh deniedtho risrhr of"rsßleffation. and.ahal!;a(3o

.provide: for thecorrfotiono?. illegal.:and.fraudulent 7regisjtrn.ti.pn.'.- '

-..-.-.-'\u25a0. ;;^.:;-...-'\u25a0: :\-:i-"1" i?(v°ry person !qual'nf>a ;to vote.shall'

be pligibjs to hold any office 'ofitlieiSj&fijl3f'or of.nr.y city, pniinty.7nr other IqcmJ;s?ub--fiivis»ion of the f?tf!t«."eyf?eut:Ra ofh«jrw[se i

pro>ided :;in \u25a0\u25a0 this .'Constitution; ;Men, arid;women *eifrbte<»n fy??uya; of :atje\anfl ipyisir'shall Sbo-' elifihle to hold the :offfe.e ?rof

:nptaryfpnblic;Xn"fiSsh ??ll;;t)«jgunl!fipdr.tp^"p-secuta, Ah*:,\u25a0bonds "-' reoufreij ofv".them; ln.}• thn±?cnßnrUy,r:V ;-^^:'.o";:^-:^^':'";/>i-:rvV

;

iw;i

-•. V<-)4; Th<»i(3r?T»fjrs»VAsso'mj}ly- Hh,?>juprovldf> ;.by lqw for thp':lflirZ+.x\ilorderly ccindu«t:

\u25a0 of? all'eififlt'bns \by \u25a0- thp.'lp>«u»l<» ;\u25a0 In

iaTic«vwftlii tha provisipna -ofithls-.CpnstUii^\u25a0\u25a0

'irierj(on-:f"ha!l..vqt? at.fany^fe??^\u25a0iz'ed T>omlnat.lpn-?bfsaWv?C)»nd!dßte lfcripuW!q"PfflcfiiunTes.«»rho"' J« \u25a0:At:;thaitime jReregistered ivpter ? n.nfl!

\u25a0nl,g,]ffledito^yoto7at|thal next':-succe«dlhsf T

i^/tiff.^Thft|O«n«f?]|A!«s»eml?ly^ shall £enact;!as;iir«.P.Prf^ry.as4 lnro^rl?ori*th^^r^*»^B«wripeithpj^|arity.Rn^

nfitr l>( rintftl-\u25a0.nd • nrtro&W-aiaotlons. .

\u25a0

:and preventing arid punishing any.corruptpractices -in"rcbnnection ;

-therewith;?Jand

shall; have power,, in addition^* to -other-'penalties ;arid-p unishments ?"now?br^h'6re- :\u25a0;after |proscribed jby*law,for-such* offences, ;•to;provide tftat'-persons

'convicted :of:' themi

;ahalllbse the right tofvote'aEd:hold'ofnce.!-=i'17.0 The treasurer- of'each county? and'

city. :• of\u25a0' the;*State .;shall, :at :least ,-flvomonths ibefore any.; electron", 'file with .the.

iclerk -of. tkelC'rcuit :or CorßoratipnlCaurt ="of;hi 3.county :or-city,1'lists. ?by..[ magisterial i:dleticts lotjiward^;* of -white \u25a0< andr colored!persons separately, ,in<alphabetical order,

-verified' by. his :oath,': who \have paid, no tl?iter "than; ajx.months^prior-Ub "such .elec-.tionVthb'capitation- taxes required by>thi«Constitution'- or :tha lawsrpassed inrpursu-.

:anc« {thoreof.1-:Theclerk. within-ten daysrrbm t:receiptvthereof,;- shall make -out' qs

OMEny certified -copies; of-the- list so ;. furr:each ;riiasisterJai district ;or.

"a.s.;there? are- voting: places.-.in- such;districts or.wards and deliver,, the same to,'the snerifE'Of; the Ccoiunty.,:or lsnr'seant ;of

:the'eity,- %7hose ldiitj'.ltvshailrbe'to,-post f

one of said copies, delay; attach'vdtinfrplace ineaid; district or- ward." "Andwjthin:;thirty.,days' after such 'notice hasbeen^pested, 'any -person- who:rshall; havepaid the capitation~tax, butAwhose name 1

is omitted, from said certifled list,may afterfive <3ays' notice tolthe'trcasurer rrappiy.->p .

.the" juasra of"the or..~.Corpbratib'ri.i.Court! of hfs 'countyVorcity'to have saidlist corrected and. hjs name. entered therggypoiu •'•••"'.• r -,-\u25a0---"- \u25a0\u25a0

:-'.." '.'The-cl-Jrlv shall also, -within sixty daya\u25a0 after; the filing:lof jsaid list by the treas-urer, forward -a -certified copy thereof,with ;such.:correction... as may^ .have beenmads by order of:the;cpurts,to the.AuJi-;tor.of Public. Accounts,"' who shall", chargethe amount 1stated in such return' againstcuch ,;treasu?er -in -tlVc-'settl.e'ment-'of \u25a0. hi3.accoun Is,':': except . siich <part:as/ Tnay-ihavo-;be,er.; previously." accounted' for,'-' And- afrea3i)nable-;tin>e. before such election ;theclerk shall forward to the; judges of elec-fiort of each precinct of his county or. cityalike certified cony of £he list of those in'the magisterial district or .warden whichsuch. prGpjnct. ia. located: who havq paid,t&e ".capits-tion" ;tax' for'the-previous-'year.'which shrUMis* Vleomed. conclusive evidenceof tV'Pt-frtct-ior.tho Ei-rpose^of ;votinpr.*-':•\u25a0\u25a0•-' '.'Further evidence- ;of.the.prepayment of

itheenpitation .taxes required'.by.thisCbn-•stjtutioh £i,s a" prerequisite to -the'right toresistor, a&d vote shall] be such as shallba prspcribfd .by law." -.\u25a0_

"'- \u25a0:! -.". .\u25a0-:.-- Mr.\u25a0 BIJAIR,Ihave a' substitute reso-lution which- 1 wish to offer. \u25a0 \u25a0 .,Th9 .'"• PRESIDENT. ;.The. Secretary \u25a0 will

rrcad^the resolution. ,'::.\u25a0•\u25a0.-'..'.' > :<

V-The Secretary.^ read ns follows: 1--v". !V

.vße3otveil'.:iThat report "'of the-Gbm->niftttje \u25a0 on Elective Franchise ahd-f'Qualif',Spat ion

'for"Office be

'set rhearlng :on

'.Thursday, the 3rd*

day :of April,vat -10'o'clock, at which' time the same shallbo taken up by the Committee :of the

\u25a0•Whole.-- '-.. .•-.'• ••;\u25a0:• ;-<.-T;-<.-T :'\u25a0'• '-'\u25a0.-\u25a0.:-- \u25a0\u25a0\u25a0"

•«\u25a0 Mr.-BLAIR. Mr. President, and gentle-men of jthe 1Convention,,- my.'object in of-

fGrrin^ this:resolution issimply to enable\ the],members'" of:;the minority.:to;have an\u25a0 6pportur.ity.r to'look'into-* this::reporti and >

to.-glve expressions of their opinions to-«the Convention. \u25a0:K6w,*-. gentlemen, it-iseasily: seen that it.;will-be' impossible in

Jnr.y shorter 'time for. twelve members ofthe minority, who. represent'a-consider--;able element ;of the

;

voters of"this com

monwealth, to \u25a0 present ;their views on:a"question which has taken the majority of

-eighty-eight members about nine months-consider. I.have not had an Vopp'or-,

:'tunity" to look into this report, although IC^fiif'e! glanced": overitVVWe.slmply :ask .two'/dftyS; ctime cto~.'pre'pare:. some tremarkal'On

the"1 subject." Prom a.casual ;examination-

gentlemen, Icannot say that Iapproveof the, report; bit Iexpect to have to

"swallow it. If you will only give us acouple of days may- be we will-.beable "to" digest a little of it. Ialso noticethat in'the close there is one pill,the un-derstanding- clause, which, m my opinion

lisf^SlnK to"create anT epidemic of nausea

-in-, the State of Virginia the like of which,

TitrVcr-'Been.-' We- ask^you t-t'o give '-BS

.until Thursday.* \u25a0 '"lou "have had ''nine'months on it. Ido'riot believe the-mem-bers'of the minority cjin be accused' oftrying>to fantagonize any measures ad-

,vanced::by this Convention; and we are'hot trying to do it now."We simply askreasonable time to" give our opinions "onthis -suffrage' question."

\u25a0 -The PRESIDENT. The question is onajrreeinjr to the substitute offered by -the

\u25a0 gentleman from Wythe (Mr.

tMri:BLAIR. Irask ;for'a" r'ecbfded'Vote,Mrl President.?:; '•-.>••- ':i.iii .:::•.':-\u25a0;Mr:DANIEL. Mr.President, before theroll is called, -I would like to say /simplythis. There |s no disposition on the partof the -majbrity of this Convention tocrowd our Republican colleagues, or tofail to;tvivc full opportunity, and time toinvestigate, ;

:consider and debate thismeasure; butyl would like to go on thismorning and explainthe:report,'and makesuch- pr.ogrress as

'we.:can.:."VVe;ido \not.want tO:-waste0ur>,time. ;while: they; areconsideringvthe matter. -:That :is all. \u25a0- :. Mr:' BLAIR- I.understood ;thls .motionwas for- the immediate consideration .ofthe report. " ' '/ \u25a0 \u25a0 \u25a0'- /\u25a0 -. '..Mr..DANIEL. Itis for immediate con-

sideration, but not for. an immediate vote.atr. PEDIGp, ',Will the gentleman per-

"mitmo to -ask. him a question?- -. i.-.A^Mr^.:DA-NIEL.: Certainly.: s>.. \. \u25a0\u25a0:.-. :....-

Mr-:PEDIGO.- Would -you deem- it giv--ing; the- minority .a- fair -chance- to carryihis r

zintqr":Convention e^without -."goingthrough the Committee of the Whole- ataii? ,-. '.

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Mr. DANIEL.. Ifyou. want to. go intoCommittee of the Whole, Ihave no ob-jection. -.' . .. - . . ;Mr.;PEDIGO. .Well,.if you have no ob-

jection "tip .going-into "the matter 'in Com--mittfteVof. the .Whole, we have no.-.objec-'Uori \u25a0'to'riie'sJrininff-now..:-'.-^ .\u25a0' • •

:\u25a0:-_ .Mr.' DANIEL.-If you desire -.tO; go.-intc:

."Committee of the Whole, ;l do not-objecto:it,.Ido "not know what tha sense pf

the. body is. . •. :\u25a0 . V. ,'Mr. LINDSAT. Mr. President,

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to. a- point- of order. There has. been ?'request for.- the -"yeas' and: naya, and.no.

rdebate- is- in.order. -.V -.:.:\u25a0:'-\u25a0' --...'\u25a0.ii^The PRESipENT^nThe roll call has not:(been \u25a0oomnioneed/STft.o Chair \u25a0\u25a0 think3-re*inark3:are; inr;orc|«ir:r;orc|«ir:- i..'{6:-. -

'—'ir, \u25a0\u25a0\u25a0 '\u25a0> \u25a0--•*.-

\u25a0\u25a0 \u25a0'•'.\u25a0• -Mr.:JAMBS *W...GORDON- :-Irrise to a"point: of narUaroentaryl inquiry, rDo -not.the rules require that- air reports of com-niitcsi-s sjhalibu referred 1 to the Committeeof'thelLWhble? •" -

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\u25a0;:The. -PRESIDENT. -'\u25a0 The /rule ;.raquireg •

'.that all.-reports .of;committees, shall:.bo:referred- tor tha.-.Comrtiittee-. of \u25a0\u25a0\u25a0the =Whole,-

:-but this, is an .'independent-oroinance, jas

•tha. Chair 'undcrstaijcls,..: which the -gen*.t!errian-pft'3rs,.and pf which ha asks ;imme^tiiatp? consideration. .'.\u25a0 .-\u25a0-". . '

Mr, PKDIGOi Will the Chair explain inwhat v,-a>' this suffrage report differs from

\u25a0tlje';reporc"'pf any cpmmitteQ -to-this Con-

'Ventlpn?-': \u25a0 : : ,Z \u25a0' J-: \JIThdICHAIR.'

-The'CornmUtee on Elective'

Frunchiae has inot v.'reported ~< thaV-articlfWvh'iqh the gentienian-frorn; CamppelU;haiintroduced^ :.'..The. .Chair- undoratanda :. hulias introduced it gTs. an independent:pro-posftion.v.andrunijer., Rule .2t> It,may, be?

• im?nediately ..considered unless. Qthsrwiac'orrttiriti b.y>tU3

40pnyentiqn-X4opnyentiqn-X If-ifwere-a."

L report qfra.coinmittee.', .untJer'Jtherrul^a jtjwouui is*& l̂Vecesißryifor;. it "- to, go".to -the."ConiiKittee of .tlv^:WhQle.,,But.not;;beinga .Tftpgn- of"the -committee jt.way.now be.conffiderefl b.y",th.e;:Conyentjon^ ::--:".". r- \u25a0•";Mr.iFEDJ^O, \u25a0 What'.wfts that thing you'

have alj;bfis'n .dolhs in"secret'fpra the >last:

six-mentha? :We« not that; a commiHe^?\u25a03i-T.heiOfJAIR. The ,report 'did:'not comeWbmntluit'commUtea.^ :-:;;;"

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iy^M^&BRQWN- a question- of\u25a0 parliamen tary£ inquiry/;Under.: the; rules•of •Convention:, 'as .1'understand \\&all;*Tepofts:;of 'fcommittees £havef/tb ;Jgo:-|td"/"the?Gornhi|tttefilpf^h>'VWhoJa.iThe.Buf,\u25a0fraga-Committeaihaa; reported "to \u25a0;\u25a0 thisbpdy,' ? and 'therefara"; the: report- of-'the'SuffragelCommittee ;i?;before ;the Coramit» i

teeTof;:tlie:Wfipjejijl>underHtand*thiaH»?9;.PsapiVate \u25a0[\u25a0 ordinance,^ 'offered taa ks?r, »übst{|tyte

'for

0,the; report;of^the; Comm|tta«^oh^Uh*:Electiy'e sPranchJse,l? and fth^ef6Fe|it;.' l&i^properlyjibefore'-th« ~CoinmittoaTof f^l9'WhelQ."'" \ .-\u25a0' '."--' \u25a0•'\u25a0'-

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&Mr;iiDUNAWAY.v.;IJ|riße to' a point.»f*^order.n-

The! qucitlon \ \» motinot iwhat »*hi»UjiV«1

fdoneifwith:? this|iesoluUotiiesoluUoti :ofC«r«a|bystiyt \u25a0

Ig^nUemanii frbm f|Campbell/r' lt|i«|oh|;t|ie!iniotloh's; of|thaf ?•ntje^ia>itrqimfl'Wyiifc