ATF Fast and Furious Scandal - Oath Keepers

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http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/03/30/oath-keeping-at-the-atf/

Oath Keeping At The ATFRe: ATF Operation Fast and Furious, which follows Stewarts comments

NOTE FROM STEWART:

Below is Elias' article on the ATF "gunwalker" scandal, lauding the whistle-blowingAFT agents. In response to the article, frequent commenter Remember the Alamoasked a very good question:

"Where does the U.S. Constitution delegate to the federal government via theUnited States Department of Treasury and its Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,Firearms, and Explosives the power to regulate the use alcohol, tobacco,firearms, and explosives in the individual sovereign states of the UnitedStates?"

My response: Nowhere. And that is why I have a problem with calling any ATFagent an "oath keeper" of any kind. Frankly, to truly keep their oaths, they wouldhave to resign. And not only is there no such power granted, it is also in directviolation of the Second Amendment, since what the ATF does EVERY DAY iscertainly an infringement of our right to bear arms.

As Elias amply illustrates in his article, the ATF's job is to harass, snare, entrap,

and imprison as many gun owners as they possibly can, and that is what they doall the time (and at times, such "law enforcement" results in the deaths of peoplewho's only "crime" was to own items that Hoplophobes fear and hate).

See the Olofson case (in that case, I helped write an amicus brief to the USSupreme Court, pointing out the absurdity ATF's Alice in Wonderland shiftingdefinition of what is a full auto that would find even a malfunctioning double barrelshotgun or malfunctioning single action revolver from the 1800's to be a "full-auto"if, while malfunctioning, they fired more than one shot per trigger pull).
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Out of respect for Elias, who is a heck of a researcher and writer, and a friend, I didn'tmonkey with or edit his piece, but I had to add this comment. While I congratulate thewhistle-blower agents on their courage and integrity in blowing the whistle, and I hopemore federal agents do the same across the board, I must point out the obviouscontradiction of their job with their oath. What they did is worthy of praise, but they doneed to think hard about what it is they do for a job, everyday, in light of that sacredoath they swore to support and defend the Constitution. And then, as Jesus told the

harlot, go and sin no more!

Stewart Rhodes, Founder of Oath Keepers

We encourage all readers, and all Oath Keepers members and supporters, tocontact their US Representatives and Senators and demand that they supporthearings, and also let them know we want to see the resignation of the headof the ATF and of Holder, and we want to know what Obama knew, andwhen.

My comments:

Remember the nearly simultaneous cacophony of Marxist DC elitists claimingthat American guns were being illegally sold by American entities to Mexicancartels? Recall the fallout in the absence of any supporting data in thatclaim?

Hmmm, then along comes Fast and Furious?

I think what we have here is the ATF, ie; the DOJ, DHS and Executive branchbeing caught red-handed MANUFACTURING EVIDENCE to support theirearlier unfounded claims that American people did not accept as truthful.

Now, those people are complicit in the deaths of at least two known federalagents, not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands, of firearms that wereallowed to be sold in the US, to illegally cross the border into the hands ofMexican cartels.

I dont fault line and field level agents because clearly the orders to continue

this op, in spite of the many very loud and heated objections, came from farabove their pay grades.

Heads must roll over this.

Rest in Peace Agent Brian Terry

~PRM, Oath Keeper since 1984


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Elias Alias - Oath Keepers

Blow-Back's A Bitch

ATF Deals Death In Massive False-Flag Psy-Op

When mankind lost sight of the way to live, came codes of law and order.

- Lao Tzu, circa 500 BC -

Elias Alias -- Oath Keepers

Blow-Backs A Bitch

What would take the average writer an afternoon has taken mewell over a week. Yet I must acknowledge that this story is breaking like storm waveson the governments beach, and every time I think Ive got the story covered anotherbreaking wave of new developments hits home hard. Suffice, that this story is going togrow legs, with much credit to CBSs Sharyl Attkisson.

As I write tonight, Thursday, March 24, 2011, Ive viewed a video of President Obamadiscussing this case with a Mexican journalist. He used the interview like a pick-me-upphoto-op as he slyly got in a plug for the Security and Prosperity Partnership, andboldly confronted reality with a Presidential air of denial. Although he did not use theterm Security and Prosperity Partnership, the language was the same.

Attorney General Eric Holder is under the heat-lamp, and so is head of Department ofHomeland Security (DHS) Janet Napolitano. Not to mention every salty dog atop theATFs hierarchy of internal power, the big-wigs of Americas most rogue Federalenforcement agency, the allegedly brilliant but certainly power-damaged minds of ATFs

leadership. This story is going to grow and spread universally, and its gravity is morethan significant. It is a scandal of extreme proportions, enough-so that the President isnow asserting that neither he nor Attorney General Eric Holder was aware of thismassive criminal ploy by ATF. So as readers dive in below, recall that this is just anaccounting of facts Ive gathered as of March 24, 2011. Ill give links to a couple of theoriginal timelines by David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh below.

-At the ATFs Group VII Gunrunner operation in Phoenix, Arizona, (codenamed FastAnd Furious), there has been some dissension within the ranks. What could bebothering the troops what could possibly cause dissension? It must have something to
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do with their job. Are some of them listening too closely to their consciences, whileothers operate by the hardened hearts produced by government training programs?ATF training involves use of violent force which may be lawfully applied upon freeAmerican citizens. Do the agents expressing dissent object to certain ATF policies? Arethey worried that the ATF has been knowingly furnishing firearms to the Mexican drugcartels? To see, let us begin with a look at the message sent by email from the groupleader to his boots on the ground ATF agents at Phoenix. Here is the supervisor of the

ATF Phoenix Group VII, writing by email to his agents.

- It has been brought to my attention that there may be a schism developing amongstthe group. Whether you care or not people of high rank and authority at HQ are payingclose attention to this case and they also believe we [Phoenix Group VII] are doingwhat they envision the Southwest border groups doing. It may sound cheesy but weare The tip of the ATF spear when it comes to Southwest Border Firearms Trafficking.We need to resolve our issues at this meeting. Ill be damned if this case is going tosuffer due to petty arguing, rumors or other adolescent behavior. I dont know what allthe issues are but we are all adults, we are all professionals and we have the excitingopportunity to use the biggest tool in our law enforcement toolbox. If you dont think

this is fun youre in the wrong line of work period! This is the pinnacle of domesticU.S. Law enforcement techniques. After this the tool box is empty. Maybe the MaricopaCounty Jail is hiring detention officers and you can get paid $30,000 (instead of$100,000) to serve lunch to inmates all day. We need to get over this bump in the roadonce and for all and get on with the mission at hand. This can be the most fun youhave with ATF, the only one limiting the amount of fun we have is you.

David Voth, Group Supervisor, Phoenix Group VII

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That email has been preserved by CBS news and others. You can see the pdf here:

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/Grassley_2011_03_page14.pdf

So what might be the problem?

The problem is that the ATF has been caught placing thousands of guns into the handsof the Mexican drug smuggling cartels. And other characters of interest. Its safe to saythat that is indeed a problem.

The first symptom of the problem arose when some of the ATFs agents in Group VIIfelt like doing a little bit of old fashioned Oath keeping. Some of the agents and officerssaw something very ugly about the ATF helping the Mexican cartels obtain powerfulweapons lots of weapons, with lots of ammo.

Youre reading this correctly The ATF has helped straw buyers purchase weaponshere in the United States and has made notes about the purchases, but the ATF alsohas allowed the straw buyers to move those guns into Mexico, knowing they would endup in criminal hands. Remarkable, that. But its deeper than just that.


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The vast spread of the involved governmental agencies, policies, and offices related tothis case are mind-boggling. The case is a scandal of serious proportions, and it reachesfrom the blood-stained sands of our southern border with Mexico all the way to the topof several Federal agencies. It even reaches into the top tiers of the U.S. Department ofJustice, and, shockingly, into the Department of Homeland Security itself.

Apparently there are two ways to interpret Mr. Voths email to his agents in Phoenix.

He has stated that the Project Gunrunner program is the tip of the ATF spear when itcomes to Southwest Border Firearms Trafficking. That is an amazing statement, for itcan be seen two ways, now that we know that the ATF has been running guns intoMexico. It now appears that ATF could be among the most prolific gun traffickers of all.In reality, we must realize that a program this large has to have a recorded sourcing inour governmental structure, for it involves many millions of tax-payer dollars. (Thetaxpayers probably will want to fume a bit when they learn that their dollars went toassist in supplying Mexican drug lords with high-powered guns. )

Further, as U.S. Senator Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, and U.S. Representative Darrell Issa,R-California, both assert, the Department of Justice and the ATF as well as other

agencies have lied to Senator Grassleys investigation into allegations that the ATF wasarming criminal gangs in Mexico.

In an article at WorldNet Daily, < http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=276413 > we readsome strong language:

The gun shops are often vilified for being the source, but in this case they did the rightthing. They contacted the agency and were told to go ahead,Issa said. As we get tothe truth, were going to hold those who lied to us early on accountable. Issa is alsodetermined to break through the agencys efforts to stonewall the investigation. Kraftsaid Issa also supports plans for an inquiry by Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa.

ATF and DOJ denied the existence of the program and stonewalled the senatorsrequests, relying on a policy of not disclosing information relating to an openinvestigation.

- End quoted passage -

There are two excellent timelines organized to reveal this story in its proper sequenceof development. These two timelines are provided by David Codrea of Gun RightsExaminer and Mike Vanderboegh ofSipsey Street Irregulars. [1] David and Mike

are the prominent two individuals who pushed this story to the top despite muchresistance and reluctance by mainstream media. Their inspiring efforts helped an ATFagent whistle-blower working inside Fast And Furious at Phoenix come forward withhis explosive revelations, and helped get this whistle-blower some protection by a U.S.Senator and, finally by some decent protective coverage by CBS.

With a grateful salute to David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh, as well as to CBS Newscorrespondent Sharyl Attkisson, Oath Keepers will share with our readers the fruits ofDavids and Mikes outstanding work on the BATFEs deliberate scheme to smuggle gunsinto the hands of Mexican drug lords and other criminals. And then we will look at an
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outstanding conscientious American who awakened to a very nasty situation inside oneof Americas most notoriously scandal-ridden enforcement agencies.

What Does The ATF Do?

Although the ATF has a very long list of abuses of American citizens and has been atopthe most-hatedlist of many Americans for decades, one highly criminal event in ATFs

past rings the bell as the quintessence of the ATFs character as an agency which trucksin government force, even militarized force.

Remember Waco? That was a production in Hellish federal authoritarianism run amok,and it was engineered by the ATF. In early 1993 the ATF was expecting budgethearings in Congress, and leadership decided to pull off a publicized military-styleinvasion of a church which had been in the community at Waco, Texas, for half acentury. ATF had been training its agents to behave like combat troops, and they reallywanted some kind of confrontation in which they could practice their militanttechniques.

The pretext was that the ATF wanted to serve a warrant about allegedly illegal gunactivity. The minister of that church had friendly relations with the County Sheriff, andwas often seen shopping in town, and was known by ATF to take his health jogs eachmorning on County roads by himself the perfect time to serve a warrant without riskof escalation.

But the ATF wanted to serve a warrant to the minister of that church with fanfare, do itas a well-choreographed photo-op. This would gain maximum publicity, which washoped to inspire Congress to increase ATFs budget. The ATF notified a couple of newsorganizations and invited them along for the show.

ATF then blundered its way into the notorious shoot-out with a bunch of church people,leaving four ATF agents dead and others wounded. The metal front door of the church,which bore the flanges of incoming bullets on the inside of the door with noneprotruding outwardly from gunfire inside the church, has mysteriously disappeared. Theentire church complex was burned to the ground and buried by the government. TheATFs calling card was to shoot David Koresh as he stood in the doorway, unarmed.After two churchmen were wounded by wild ATF gunfire, the church folks beganreturning fire. Four ATF agents were killed, and some churchmen were also killed.

That began a siege, in which the FBI and the U.S. military were brought in under Bill

Clintons infamous PDD-25. The ATF got the military involvement/assistance by lying tothe Pentagon, saying that the church was manufacturing illegal drugs inside theirchurch. The ATF also lied about alleged child abuse, which did not happen, as themedical staff which examined the surviving children attested on film in the documentarynamed Waco: A New Revelation. That documentary interviews the Sheriff who knewDavid Koresh personally, and features the FBI FLIR footage which reveals governmenttroops, FBI agents, ATF agents, shooting the church members as they fled the burningbuildings. Thats FBI footage. Get the movie and see the truth.

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hapless agency, and this newest adventure is destined to rise to the level of Waco, foralthough the ATF did not do the actual shooting of Agent Brian Terry, two guns whichthe ATF had purposely allowed to walk across the border under surveillance did turnup in the hands of the villains at the fatal encounter where Agent Terry was shot todeath.

Cruel and indifferent, and blatantly disorganized due to its being used extensively in

Unconventional Warfare operations, black ops, and clandestine activities, ATF has apublic face which it shares with the public and it has a false face which it hidescarefully behind the universal veil called national security secrecy. No Federal agencyholds in contempt the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as wrathfully,criminally, and with as deadly consistency as does the ATF. Its what ATF does. Enforceinfringement for the government which funds them.

On its public face, ATF is here to stop the bad guys who might dare to shorten thebarrel of a rifle or shotgun, or who might have a gun which fires too many bullets tooquickly. But on its false face, the face it always tries to hide, ATF generates fines, jailterms, and taxes peripheral to gun manufacturers, distributors, retailers, and citizens

who buy guns. ATF is the Federal tool for gun control in America. ATF has murderousblood on its hands. Since Waco, and the subsequent bombing of the Federal building inOklahoma City (about which ATF also has much to deny), ATF has managed to keepmost of its criminal activity out of the public spotlight until now.

As David Codrea says, this breaking and snowballing story just may have stoppedfederal gun control legislation in its tracks for the foreseeable future.I tend to agreewith David Codrea.

To wade into this, lets look at some documentation. For readers who have not yetcaught this story in the media/press, well ask if Project Gunrunner is real? TheDOJ/OIG thinks so

http://www.justice.gov/oig/reports/ATF/e0906.pdf

from that pdf:

U.S. Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General Evaluation andInspections Divisions Interim Review of ATFs Project Gunrunner September 2009 Report Number I-2009-006

Project Gunrunner is the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF)national initiative to reduce firearms trafficking to Mexico and associated violence alongthe Southwest border.

In the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (Recovery Act) and in fiscalyear (FY) 2009 appropriations, ATF received $21.9 million in funding to supportand expand Project Gunrunner. In May 2009, the Office of the Inspector General(OIG) opened an evaluation of Project Gunrunner, which is ongoing. We are issuing thisinterim report on Project Gunrunner plans as ATF is expanding the project.


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Twenty-one point nine million dollars in Recovery Act funds, on top of whatever theCongress additionally may have funded in 2009, is a lot of money. Americans are aboutto wake up in anger as they see that such a large sum went to arm the drug cartels ofMexico, get a lot of innocent folks shot to death, and convert bands of criminals southof the border into raging military units of professional crime.

The bright spot in this is that Agent Voth is having fun.

It is unfortunate that DOJs Office of Inspector General failed to concern itself withATFs oversight of, and literal assistance for, a river of serious guns and ammostreaming across the border into Mexico. All that study did was assess logistics for anabstract operation. Did the Justice Department know that the ATF was runningthousands of weapons across the border for the drug cartels? The answer to thatquestion is destined to come out very soon now. But remember, President Obama hassaid that neither he nor Holder knew.

Perhaps the leadership at ATF smokes too much of the DEAs bad weed, for we canclearly see that ATFs logic was a pipe dream which runs like this ATF would let the

guns be sold to known gun runners. ATF even filmed some of the purchases, as CBSfootage shows. ATF asked the gunstore owners to jot down the license plates of thosewho bought too many guns at one visit. These straw buyers were buying fifty-calibersniping rifles in quantities. Then ATF would somehow follow the guns into Mexicowhere, magically, ATF would know which drug cartels got the guns.

Then, as this fantasy pipe dream goes up in smoke in the bonfire of bureaucracy andattendant idiocy, after ATF had let the cartels stock up like a criminal military forceready for street combat, and just before anything really bad happened with all thoseguns ATF was following, ATF would don its Savior Suit and dash down there intoMexico and arrest all the bad guys in one fell swoop.

Something like that. Absolute genius. Govlish-style genius at its finest. Pure pipe-dreams. Psy-hash -- lit with your tax dollars for toking-up and running guns across theborder. But the ATFs slap-happy hallucination has metamorphosized into a ragingnightmare. Hundreds of human beings have been shot with these guns. The DrugLords, Cartels, and mercenary criminals in Mexico are now heavily enough armed to bea serious problem for the military of Mexico, not to mention local law enforcement innorthern Mexico.

Meanwhile, for years the government of Mexico has been begging the U.S. government

to do something to stop the flow of heavy armaments into Mexico across our southernborder. The ATF of course has striven to keep their Project Gunrunner strictly secret,and has denied the Mexican government much knowledge of their dastardly operation,which was aiding those weapons to cross our border into Mexico.

Dont Tell Pedro

To the American tax payer who has funded this madness, ATF continues to present itspublic face, but to those who might interdict or stop ATFs folly the agency only showsits false face. ATF brags about how many weapons it has confiscated, loudly and


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often, but it never told the Mexican government doodly about its cherished gun-runninggig.

In fact, the ATF has been lying outright to the Mexican government. Dont believe me?Read this

http://www.usembassy-mexico.gov/eng/texts/et080116eTrace.html

That is from the U.S. Embassy in Mexico. It is an ATF fact sheet furnished by ATF to theMexican government and to the government of the American people. Here is how itstarts

ATF is deploying its resources strategically on the Southwest Border to deny firearms,the tools of the trade, to criminal organizations in Mexico and along the border, andto combat firearms-related violence affecting communities on both sides of the border.In partnership with other U.S. agencies and with the Government of Mexico, ATFrefined its Southwest Border strategy. ATF developed Project Gunrunner to stem theflow of firearms into Mexico and thereby deprive the narcotics cartels of weapons. The

initiative seeks to focus ATFs investigative, intelligence and training resources tosuppress the firearms trafficking to Mexico and stem the firearms-related violence onboth sides of the border.

Firearms tracing, in particular the expansion of the eTrace firearms tracing system, is acritical component of Project Gunrunner in Mexico. ATF recently deployed eTracetechnology in U.S. consulates in Monterrey, Hermosillo and Guadalajara, with sixadditional deployments to the remaining U.S. consulates in Mexico scheduled by March2008. ATF has conducted discussions with the government of Mexico regarding thedecentralization of the firearms tracing process to deploy Spanish-language eTrace toother Mexico agencies.

In the past two years, ATF has seized thousands of firearms headed to Mexico. Trendsindicate the firearms illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border are becoming morepowerful. ATF has analyzed firearms seizures in Mexico from FY 2005-07 and identifiedthe following weapons most commonly used by drug traffickers:

9mmpistols;.38Superpistols;5.7mmpistols;.45-caliberpistols;

AR-15typerifles;and AK-47 type rifles.

Most of the firearms violence in Mexico is perpetrated by drug trafficking organizations(DTOs) who are vying for control of drug trafficking routes to the United States andengaging in turf battles for disputed distribution territories. Hundreds of Mexicancitizens and law enforcement personnel have become casualties of the firearms-relatedviolence. DTOs operating in Mexico rely on firearms suppliers to enforce and maintaintheir illicit narcotics operations. Intelligence indicates these criminal organizations havetasked their money laundering, distribution and transportation infrastructures reaching


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into the United States to acquire firearms and ammunition. These Mexican DTOinfrastructures have become the leading gun trafficking organizations operating in thesouthwest U.S.

ATF has dedicated approximately 100 special agents and 25 industry operationsinvestigators to the SWB initiative over the past two years. ATF has recently assignedspecial agents to Las Cruces, N.M., and Yuma, Ariz. These assignments are part of a

broad plan to increase the strategic coverage and disrupt the firearms traffickingcorridors operating along the border.

And it goes on from there. It covers much, indicating its willingness to shareinformation on its tax-funded operations in Mexico. It does not at any time allude tojust where in Article 1, Section 8, the ATF derives its excuse to exist as a Federalorganization. It does not tell the Mexican government or the American peoplesgovernment about how many straw buys the ATF oversaw in recent years as the strawbuyers legally purchased high-powered firepower and ammo from stores which the ATFwas using as if those stores were satellite ATF stations involved in a mysterious andseriously large operation destined to take down the border crime lords in one fell

swoop. Nope. The ATF didnt go into that. So what this fact sheet really is a lie-by-omission. Before leaving that document lets look at one other passage which portendssomething in what I refer to as Govlish

Firearms tracing helps identify firearms straw purchasers, the traffickers, traffickingnetworks and patterns, thus allowing law enforcement to target and dismantle theinfrastructure supplying firearms to the DTOs in Mexico.

When they say, target and dismantle the infrastructure supplying firearms, theirstatement might be construed to include the gun stores which they presently regulate.The retail gun stores are constantly harassed by ATF as it zealously enforces the letterof its law. ATF offered a number of gun store owners a sense of acceptance when theowner agreed to do the ATFs spy-work for them in his store, keep the records andforward them to ATF on demand. Im sure ATF went easy with the stores whichcooperated in their Gunrunner program. As to regulating those stores, theres this lastsentence in the document

ATF conducts firearms seminars with federal firearms licensees, commonly referred toas licensed gun dealers, to educate the firearms industry on straw purchasers and guntrafficking. More than 3,700 industry members attended outreach events in SWBdivisions in FY 2007.

Here is an article in the Los Angeles Times which notes that the Mexican governmentwants some answers

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-naw-mexico-guns-20110311,0,2534184.story

Excerpt: Lawmakers in Mexico are demanding an investigation into a U.S. lawenforcement operation that allowed hundreds of weapons to flow into the hands ofMexican drug cartels amid claims from a ranking legislator that at least 150 Mexicans


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Fox News people are trying to carefully choose their language while exposing as little aspossible about how deeply this thing goes toward the heart of government policy.Where Sharyll Attkisson of CBS News is telling it straight up as it truly is, Fox News, in afeeble effort to keep up with CBS, gives a very hesitant, even reluctant report on thisstory. But please note -- the wickedness inherent in Gunrunner cannot be avoided now,cannot be denied no matter how carefully newscasters at Fox News parse their words.In this article Senator Grassley notes that this scandal goes into the Department of

Homeland Security itself.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/03/09/project-gun-runner-scandal-border/#ixzz1GD6CbS3T

Already we know the weapons used to kill Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry were beingtracked by Gunrunner, but new documents reveal a much bigger problem.

The questions this morning in Washington are how high does this go and will Congresscall for a formal investigation of its own.

Im still asking questions and were getting the runaround from the JusticeDepartment Sen. Charles Grassley told Fox News. Theyre stonewalling. And thelonger they wait, the more they fight, the more egg that theyre going to have on theirface.

[U.S. Senator] Grassley and others say Gunrunner was a dismal and deadly failure, withATF intentionally allowing thousands of weapons to be illegally trafficked to Mexico.

Sen. Grassley says ATF isnt the only guilty agency. He says Department of Justicelawyers and agents from Homeland Security also watched this debacle unfold, oftenhand in hand with ATF.

Grassley has lengthy correspondence and numerous documents he wants to post onthe Senate Judiciary website, but sources on the Hill say Judiciary Chairman Pat Leahywont allow it, refusing to call for an independent congressional investigation.

Im not satisfied with the inspector general there doing the investigation; to me it lookslike a fox guarding the hen house, echoes Grassley.

I would add every government official who seeks to interdict, limit, stall, prevent,discourage, twist, avoid, evade, obfuscate or spin this investigation will be viewed as

complicit in the ATF crimes now being investigated. It is called, conspiracy.

So now we know that the ATFs project Gunrunner is real, that it involves severalFederal agencies in a lawbreaking spree of official insanity, and that a lot of people arenow dead, on both sides of the border, many of them shot by guns furnished underATF surveillance.

Before moving to the next part of this story, lets look briefly at an amazingphenomenon. I call it:


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Beanbags Vs Bullets

In December, 2010, U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian A. Terry was murdered in a shoot-out at Peck Canyon northwest of Nogales, Arizona, in which our Border Patrol agentswere armed with beanbag bullets while the smugglers were firing real bullets. Typicalfedgov progressive political-correctness set up that scenario thank Washington D.C.,DOJ, DHS, ATF well, actually, no one seems to want our gratitude, for each of them

are denying they gave the order to put bean-bags in Border Patrol guns.

In January, 2011, street agents of the ATF began a discussion online at Clean Up ATFdot org.

http://cleanupatf.org/forums/

The discussion was about the gun which allegedly killed Agent Terry. It appears thattwo of the rifles being used by the smugglers were Project Gunrunner weapons whichhad been allowed by ATF to walk across the border into cartel hands. MikeVanderboegh was notified about this online discussion. We can thank Mike for helping

get the story out to the world.

Diane Macedo for Fox News published this article on bean bags as bullets and revealedanother dimension of this story. Here is the link for the full article, posted by Fox Newson March 03, 2011

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/03/03/fbi-report-raises-concerns-border-agents-facing-bullets-bean-bags-609544203/

We read there -

The U.S. Border Patrol is under fire for allegedly ordering its elite, SWAT-style units touse non-lethal bean bag ammunition before responding with deadly force evenagainst suspects armed with high-powered semi-automatic and automatic weapons likeAK-47s.

The controversy over the agencys bean bag policy began in the days following theDec. 14 killing of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry and has escalated recently asmore information is uncovered in the investigation of the fatal shooting.

When the suspected aliens did not drop their weapons, two Border Patrol agents

deployed less than lethal beanbags at the suspected aliens, according to a FBI searchwarrant request filed in the U.S. District Court in Tucson on Dec. 29 . At this time, atleast one of the suspected aliens fired at the Border Patrol agents. Two Border Patrolagents returned fire, one with his long gun and one with his pistol. Border Patrol agentBrian Terry was shot with one bullet and died shortly after.

The warrant appears to support claims made by Terrys brother, Kent, and former U.S.Rep. Tom Tancredo that Terrys team part of the U.S. Border Patrol Tactical Unit,also known as BORTAC -- was under standing orders to always use bean-bag rounds


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first before using live ammunition.

There was a group of four guys with my brother and two had lethal and two had non-lethal weapons there, Kent Terry told Fox News Friday.

On March 09, 2011, CNN published this piece of damage control by Janet Napolitano,Big Sister head of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-03-09/politics/napolitano.border.shooting_1_lethal-force-border-patrol-agents-illegal-aliens?_s=PM:POLITICS

Written by Mike M. Ahlers, CNN:

Four Border Patrol officers who confronted armed immigrants in the Arizona desert lastDecember were not under orders to use less-than-lethal force, Homeland SecuritySecretary Janet Napolitano said, countering critics who say an ill-advised shooting policycontributed to one of the agents death.

But Napolitano declined to say whether two of the four agents were armed only withnon-lethal bean bag guns, saying the incident is still being investigated.

An FBI affidavit has raised questions about the incident, saying that two of the agentsfired less than lethal bean bags at the armed immigrants before the immigrantsreturned fire.

Did those bandits know that our guys would shoot first with bean bags? There is thisfrom the Arizona Daily Star:

Records show agents fired beanbags in fatal border gunfight

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_681d29cf-845a-5aea-9f34-3837d70b8a31.html

Border Patrol officials declined to answer questions about protocol for use of force,citing the ongoing investigation.

But Terrys brother, Kent Terry, said the other agents who were there that night toldhim that they were instructed to use the non-lethal beanbags first. Its a policy thatdoesnt make sense to Kent Terry.

You go up against a bandit crew that is carrying AKs, and you walk out there with gunsloaded with beanbags -- I dont get it, Terry said in a phone interview from Michigan.Its like going to the Iraqi war with one knife. It boggles my mind. These guys(Border Patrol agents) are professionals; they should be able to use their judgment callon their own.

On the night of the deadly encounter, agents were trying to apprehend at least fivesuspected illegal immigrants. One agent, using thermal binoculars, spotted two mencarrying rifles. When the group came close, at least one agent identified himself as


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police and ordered the men to drop their weapons.

Heres how the rest of the events are described in the FBI document:

When the suspected aliens did not drop their weapons, two Border Patrol agentsdeployed less than lethal beanbags at the suspected aliens. At this time, at least one ofthe suspected aliens fired at the Border Patrol agents. Two Border Patrol agents

returned fire, one with his long gun and one with his pistol.

Agent Voths Oath Keeper

Im sure DHS Janet Napolitano is having a large time with this, and Agent Voth is stillhaving fun. Eric Holder is probably smiling despite it all as he also tries to find a publicface to greet the faces he meets. But what about any Oath Keepers in this developingstory? Can we find an Oath Keeper in all this? We know that Janet Napolitano violatesher Oath every day. More than likely, so do a lot of people working inside DOJ, FBI,DEA, ATF, and numerous other agencies under DOJs umbrella. We certainly know thatsupervisor Voth is totally despicable as a raging fun-seeking Oath breaker.

Lets talk more about Agent Voth. In his email to his agents, he was talking about theserious questions some of his agents were discussing among themselves questionsabout the wisdom, or lack of wisdom, in operation Gunrunner. It had come to theirattention that Agent Terry had been murdered by, possibly, a Gunrunner weapon whichATF had let walk. Two rifles at that death scene were Gunrunner rifles. Did Mr. Vothgive a damn about his Oath to the Constitution? Nope. He was into having fun. Andhe was not about to let his fun be spoiled by some disturbing awareness about thegrave reality underpinning his fun.

With a typically Feducated mentality, Mr. Voth took the bureaucratic/governmentalapproach to leading his men back to their senses. Force them. Threaten them. Warnthem. Give them what-for! Keep the troops in line. Its called authoritarianism.Works big-time in the military, and also in todays militarized law enforcement. It is aform of psychological pathology which infests power-damaged minds in too manyFederal agency offices.

It is blind, it is careless, it is dangerous, and for the most part it is highly criminal. It iswhat Heinrich Himmler drove into the hearts and minds of his SS troops. It is themindset which wants to have fun while playing God with other peoples lives. Mr. Vothlikely does not know how hideously ugly his mind now appears to Americans. He most

likely shall take my criticism as all in a days work, or part of the job, and he will pathimself on the back for enduring in his madness no matter what. But what SupervisorVoth probably did not see coming his way is the fact that right there in his PhoenixGroup VII stands his antithesis, a man of principle, and that man has come forward.

We see that at leadership levels in DOJ and ATF there is not likely to be found verymany Oath Keepers. All up and down the scale they are lying to Senator Grassley,stonewalling, giving Congress the run-around. Theyre as immature about this as anythree-year-old child caught in the cookie jar. But of course we cant really expectgovernment-paid employees who play with guns to fess up when they mess up, now


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can we? I mean, this mess-up is big enough to do serious damage to the entire Federalpolicy machinery. Theyre caught arming drug cartels in Mexico, after all.

Now were ready to look to the Oath Keeper and his conscientious companions. Thereis one Oath Keeper who came forward first, and he is already joined by about a dozenothers. This one man was the first man to allow CBS cameras to put a face on an ATFagent confessing the bitter truth about Gunrunner. He and his fellow agents of honor

are good men who can, despite their rigorous training, heavy programming, perpetualconditioning, and reinforced mindsets, finally see the truth and the horror of berserkgovernmental thinking/planning/execution in the tragic biggest tool in ATFs tool box.

Now we have a hero. We have a real man among men. We have an ATF agent who hasbeen willing to face the truth behind the ATFs bold-faced lie. And this man has chosento honor his Oath at great personal risk. He did not call up Oath Keepers and ask tojoin. He did not make a big deal about honoring his Oath. The man just saw what waswrong, knew what it would take to make things right, weighed the consequences,counted his options, and concluded that his duty to the American people and to AgentTerrys family was to step forward, go public, let this horribly ugly ATF secret out of the

bag, and take his chances on any future career. Why? Because ATF agent John Dodsonhas what all Oath Keepers have he has a conscience. Here is what he told CBSSharyl Attkisson:

Im boots on the ground in Phoenix, telling you weve been doing it everyday since Ive been here, he said. Here I am. Tell me I didnt do the thingsthat I did. Tell me you didnt order me to do the things I did. Tell me it didnthappen. Now you have a name on it. You have a face to put with it. Here Iam. Someone now, tell me it didnt happen.

Agent John Dodson, as quoted by CBS Sharyl Attkisson

BATFE Agent John Dodson is talking about government-permitted gun running, a long-questioned practice of Americas clandestine government functions. He has proved hismettle as a true American, a man with a conscience which matches his training and skillas an agent, and a man who is willing to do the right thing. From Oath Keepersnationally, Agent Dodson, thank you.

Following The DEAs Example

We will remember that the reason why the cartels in Mexico want guns is directlyrelated to the business of dealing illegal drugs. On that one point, there is thisinteresting take by a Houston attorney who is involved with one of the gun stores whichATF had conscripted.

From this WND article

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=274449


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attention.

Agent Dodson worked inside Project Gunrunner.

He has come forward to expose it.

Oath Keepers salutes ATF Agent John Dodson.

Copyright 2011 Elias Alias and Oath Keepers, Inc.

Notes:

1 David Codreas; timeline:

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/a-journalist-s-guide-to-project-gunwalker

Mike Vanderboeghs time line:

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/01/sources-timeline-summary-of-atf-project.html

-Dave Workman, Seattle Gun Rights Examiner, March 25, 2011

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-seattle/how-high-up-does-project-gunrunner-go-who-knew-what-and-when

This morning on the Glenn Beckradio program, National Rifle Association CEO WayneLaPierre suggested that the Gunrunner operation may be far more than a sting gonehorribly bad. He said the same thing in an interview Thursday with this column,asserting that this is beginning to look like a deliberate effort to flood Mexico withAmerican guns.

Referring to the Obama administration, LaPierre told this column that they keptblaming the Second Amendmentfor actions of Mexican drug cartels, and it sure lookslike they did it to lay the groundwork for more gun control.

Someone set out to turn it into a river of guns over the objection of rank and file lawenforcement, LaPierre said.

The full interview will appear in the next issue ofGun Week.

Former ATF senior agent Darren Gil, who was the agencys top gun in Mexico, wentpublic with serious allegations that he and other ATF officials were denied access toagency computer files related to the Gunrunner project and its Operation Fast andFurious, based in the ATFs Phoenix office.
http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/03/25/nra-boss-unveils-shocking-news-on-radio/http://www.gunweek.com/http://www.gunweek.com/http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/03/25/nra-boss-unveils-shocking-news-on-radio/


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Gil told CBS that part of his job as the attach to Mexico would have been to approveany operation involving Mexico and he did not approve Project Gunrunner or Fast andFurious. But who did?

In an exclusive interview with CBS News, the lead ATF official in Mexico at the timeDarren Gil says somebody in the Justice Department did know about the case. Gil sayshis supervisor at ATFs Washington D.C. headquarters told him point-blank the

operation was approved even higher than ATF Director Kenneth Melson.

Is the director aware of this, Gil asked the supervisor. Gil says his supervisoranswered Yes, the directors aware of it. Not only is the director aware of it, D.O.J.saware of it Department of Justice was aware of it.CBS News Sharyl Attkisson

MEANWHILE, Sen. Charles Grassleys inquiry into the project Gunrunner has providednew revelations in a letter to Alan D. Borsin, commissioner of U.S. Customs and BorderProtection (CBP).

Grassley told Borsin that CBP officials allegedly stopped Jaime Avila near the border in

the spring or summer of 2010. He allegedly had the two WASR-10 rifles in hispossession that were later found at the scene of Agent Brian Terrys murder, along withover thirty additional weapons. CBP officials contacted ATF or an Assistant United StatesAttorney who allegedly instructed CBP to allow Avila proceed without seizing theweapons.

- Related -- http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/03/25/nra-boss-unveils-shocking-news-on-radio/

-Also related March 25, 2009 Two Years Ago Hillary Clinton In Mexico

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/03/25/us-usa-mexico-idUSTRE52O5RF20090325?pageNumber=2

The U.S. Congress this month trimmed the amount of drug aid money it will set asidethis fiscal year to $300 million from $400 million last year, under a pledge of $1.4 billionto Mexico and Central America over three years.

Since taking office in December 2006, Calderon has spent more than $6.4 billion on hisdrug war and sent 45,000 troops and federal police to trouble spots around the country.

Mexico has repeatedly said, however, that its efforts will come to nothing if the UnitedStates does not clamp down on the smuggling of U.S. guns used in 90 percent of drugcrimes south of the border.

Clinton described the violence Mexico is grappling with as horrendous and said cartelswere alarmingly well equipped.

Its not only guns. Its night vision goggles. Its body armor. These criminals areoutgunning the law enforcement officials, she said. When you go into a gun fight,where you are trying to round up bad guys and they have military style equipment
http://grassley.senate.gov/about/upload/Judiciary-ATF-03-16-11-Letter-to-CBP-Fast-and-Furious.pdfhttp://grassley.senate.gov/about/upload/Judiciary-ATF-03-16-11-Letter-to-CBP-Fast-and-Furious.pdfhttp://grassley.senate.gov/about/upload/Judiciary-ATF-03-16-11-Letter-to-CBP-Fast-and-Furious.pdfhttp://www.glennbeck.com/2011/03/25/nra-boss-unveils-shocking-news-on-radio/http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/03/25/nra-boss-unveils-shocking-news-on-radio/http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/03/25/nra-boss-unveils-shocking-news-on-radio/http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/03/25/nra-boss-unveils-shocking-news-on-radio/http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/03/25/nra-boss-unveils-shocking-news-on-radio/http://grassley.senate.gov/about/upload/Judiciary-ATF-03-16-11-Letter-to-CBP-Fast-and-Furious.pdf


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Attorney General Eric Holder no longer appears to be denying the allegations, whichhave been made by a dozen veteran ATF agentsAt a hearing today, Senator KayBailey Hutchison asked Holder to comment on the case. Holder emphasized Themission of ATF is to stop the flow of guns. That is the focus of ATF and why they arebravely working in Mexico and in this country.

Holder went on to say for the first time that letting guns walk into the hands of

criminals for any reason is wrong. Holder says hes made it clear to people in the(Justice) Department that letting guns walk, I guess thats the term people use, is notsomething that is acceptable. We cannot have a situation where guns are allowed towalk, and Ive made that clear to the US Attorney as well as the agents in charge ofvarious ATF offices.

Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Phoenix U.S. Attorneys office underthe Justice Department supervised ATFs Fast and Furious operation.

-Sharyl Attkisson, CBS, March 21, 2011 2nd Agent comes forward

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20045650-10391695.html?tag=latest

-Sharyl Attkisson, CBS, with ATF Special Agent #2, video -- ATF Special AgentRene Jaquez March 21, 2011

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7360353n

-Sharyl Attkisson, CBS, Darren Gil, ATF man in charge of Mexico operationsfor ATF March 25, 2011

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20047027-10391695.html

-David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh on the radio / gunrunner interview /inside stuff

http://jimbotalk.net/programhighlights?date=20110317

-Killer good site Codreas War On Guns site

http://www.waronguns.blogspot.com/

David Codreas Gun Rights Examiner

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/david-codrea

-Mike Vanderboeghs Website Sipsey Street Irregulars

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/


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-Miscellaneous Links

http://www.usembassy-mexico.gov/eng/texts/et080116eTrace.html

http://tucsoncitizen.com/view-from-baja-arizona/2011/03/01/another-federal-agent-killed-by-atf-walked-gun/

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_2ff03f40-3940-11e0-98c3-001cc4c03286.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Gunrunner

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/programs/project-gunrunner/

The movie, Waco: A New Revelation, which prompted a new Congressionalinvestigation into Waco: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/waco-a-new-revelation/

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