AS9104-3 Report

Sep 14, 2011Long Beach, CA

Team Members Will Tate (TL), Triumph Aerostructures – Vought Aircraft Division Shanya Salamaca Jeff Wood Rick Downs, Cessna-Textron Vince May, Honeywell Ian Folland Tony Marino, Boeing Ian Dummigan Dominique Thiault Lisa Greenleaf Jeffery Long, UTC (Pratt & Whitney) Reg Blake, IAAR Shuji Komori Giuseppe Leoni Kimberly Maggie Ron Tharach Frank Phillips

Auditor Authentication Process

AA Authentication

• 4 audits comprising 20 on-site auditor days QMS/AQMS audits 2 audits may exclude design (7.3)

• QMS Lead Auditor course• AQMS Foundation Course (AATT)• Audit Competency Demonstration

• CB Process• AAB Process

AEA Authentication

• 4 audits comprising 20 on-site auditor days QMS/AQMS audits within 3 yrs 2 audits may exclude design (7.3)

• QMS/AQMS Lead Auditor course• AQMS Foundation Course (AATT)

within 3 yrs• 2/10 years ASD experience minimum• Technical Competence evaluated by

CB/AAB –process approved by SMS• Auditor Competency Demonstration after

successful technical evaluation

New Auditor

AA AEA Expansion

• 300 on-site audit days of an AQMS in 5 yr or 500 on-site audit days of an AQMS in 10 yrEquivalent to full time relevant full time exp. @ 5 days/Mo.

• Technical Competence evaluated by CB/AAB approved by SMS

• Auditor Competency evaluation• Re-authentication in 5 yrs

Re-authentication

• Every 5 yrs• Same criteria as initial authentication• Attendance at one SMS auditor workshop

during re-authentication period• Decision made by AAB, no SMS concurrence

Suspension / Withdrawal

• Not fulfilling AS9104-1/3 reqmts• AQMS authentication contains false info• Falsified audit findings• Actions that would bring ICOP into dispute• Not informing AAB of a previous rejection,

suspension, or withdrawal from another AAB• Decision for suspension, AAB will determine

conditions of suspension

• Training Provider Requirements• QMS• Administrative Procedures• Security• Record Retention • Complaints and appeals• Confidentiality• Course configuration mgmt (changes)• Course Variations• TP Suspension and withdrawal

• TPAB Requirements• Record retention requirements• Training Courses requirements

• 75% exam grade on essay questions• Requirements for training instructors• AAB requirements• Guidance on assessment Principles and Practices

Additional Requirements contained within AS9104/3 Draft

Additional Document Contents

• Evaluator Qualification– Training reqmts of AA/AEA– Demonstrated knowledge of AQMS standard(s)– Demonstrated knowledge of assessment principles and

practices– Continuing experience in 5yr period: 3 competency

evaluations, 15 hrs of continuing education related to ASD

• Annex A – Detaliled reqmts for Training Courses• Annex B – Definition of Competencies for ASD: AA and

AEA competencies• Annex C – AEA Technical Knowledge• Annex D – Guidance on Assessment Principles and

Practices

• CBs express concern over 300d/5yr and 500d/10 yr for AEA• Standard competency evaluation Checklist would be beneficial• AAB resource issues with oversight of CB evaluation Process• Need for AB to offer alternative to CB evaluation Process• Evaluate methodology to allow non-authenticated auditors

provisional status to conduct evaluation audit• Resources required to develop approved “Evaluators”• Need to add process for AABs to communicate applicant

rejection info to other AABs•

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