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Re: My opinion on group approaches / Post 421

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Subject: Re: My opinion on group approaches // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>its one thing when the whole group is engaged in one conversation.>In this case, I agree with you. You have to introduce yourself to>everyone in the group. Anytime you break a conversation... your going>to have to befriend ALL the girls that were in the conversation you just>disturbed.

right>From my experience though... it seems like>most of the time the group gets segmented... For example, you have a>group of 5 girls standing around in a club.... maybe 2 of the>girls are having one conversation and another 2 girls in the group are>having a different conversation and one of the girls is standing around>looking bored.... When Im moving around a club... Ill naturally go>right for the bored girl in the group just because shes going to be the>easiest to approach...

ok. thats TOTALLY different. a "group" that has split into smaller groups. in this case you are absolutely right and I would do the same thing. approachthe bored one or two so they eventually bring you into the group as a welcomedmember.

Girls that arent engaged in conversations are>the easiest to approach. plus shes my ticket in. **I know in my>original post I said I go for the closest one in the group... but I>meant the closest bored ones** When I do an approach such as this....>RARELY will the other girls try to pull the girl away. Instead, it>seems like it brings out the competitive spirit in the other girls...>and then THEY will be the ones breaking OUR conversation and not the>other way around.

that is true also. since you are entertaining their friends and chicks like tosee which one of them is the most attractive, they will come and try to woo youalso. plus they just like to gossip anyway so they will come over to see howtheir girlfriend is doing and if shes going to get any tonight :>I guess a good rule to follow is if you disturb a>conversation... then you better befriend everyone that was in the>conversation or theyll become an obstacle. I think thats when you>end up having the other girls pulling the girls away.

ok. I agree with your theory as re-stated 100%

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Re: orally inclined / Post 422




Subject: Re: orally inclined // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>Subject: orally inclined>From: unc***y@my***.com [safemail]

>Date: Sat, 24 July 1999 12:33 AM EDT>Message-id: >>Man likes to please a woman...looking in se massachusetts, and RI.

WRONG FUCKING NG!

CARPET-MUNCHER


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Re: Scouting report / Post 423




Subject: Re: Scouting report // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>Would you explain how you go about linking that to yourself? IOW, what do>you do,>so she realizes that theres no such man around, and that you are the best>option>of those available.>>Thanks,>Pablo

thats the beauty of it all... you dont have to do SHIT! she anchors to youvisually since she is looking at you as you describe this stuff to her.

I was talking to this chick last night and getting her to describe the guy shecalled "the only guy I am willing to sleep with" she ended up saying "hes asweetie... just like U :" now... there is no way that she knows I am asweetie. what happened to her is that I ask her the right questions to get hermeta-stating ABOUT someone that makes her feel the way she likes to feel inorder to fuck. she thinks about and experiences the feelings, but WHO is shetalking to? ME. basically she gets confused and thinks she is feeling that wayabout me when she is actually feeling that way about a guy that fucked her lastmonth or last year or the best or ate her out or whatever.

Its the same thing with the "guy she likes in a bar" scenario. if she likesHIM, but is talking to YOU, it probably means she doesnt have the GUTS toapproach him fearing a rejection. you can get her to think about him all nightif you want, and hell remain a living fantasy to her. meanwhile... she isgetting horny in general AND you are the one making her feel the way she does. just by being with you and seeing you and hearing you and touching you, shegets these feelings... basically she transfers what she WANTS from the guy overto you.

The other benefit of this style is that girls will admit their horny behaviorwhen you are NOT talking about yourself and you ARE talking about some moviestar or something... for instance:

me: what would you do if Keanu walked in here right now?her: I would seduce him any way I canme: what would you do to seduce Keanu?

next, she spills the beans about what she would do to convince a man she REALLYWANTS to be with her.

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Re: Scouting report / Post 424




Subject: Re: Scouting report // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>I believe best approaches with most likelihood of success are off the>dance floor looks are important there.>On the dancefloor the keys are>1 Get some kino going.>2 Dont stall>3 Show personality even though its loud

dancing with a chick requires eye contact and sensual touching to be effectivefor a PU. a girl wants to know that the guy she is dancing with moves in asexy fashion. she also wants to know how she will feel being covered by himand touched by him. if you can touch her the right way where she can feel you,but its not an aggressive sexual advance, she can decide if he likes youphysically or not. talking is good too, but talk so that you have to be closeto her because the music is so loud.


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Re: This is fun!! / Post 425




Subject: Re: This is fun!! // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

> I actually am glad that I found you geeks. You little boys need>Mommas hand to guide yours to your penises. And if you dont like it>blame Micky. When I get through e-mailing all my girl friends we are>going to flood you losers right off the line. Imagine us helpless>little women breaking off your little pricks that you think tittilate>us so. Start playing with it because everyone of you couldnt make it>with a folded pillow. Neanderthals one and all.

any of you guys that believe this is a bitch are idiots. just try to calculatethe odds that some bitch named patty would stumble onto this NG after some guyposts about her. get real. its obviously a guy from this NG trying to fuckwith you.

it is pretty funny watching you guys try to goad him into posting more bullshitthough :


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Re: We all have our handicaps / Post 426




Subject: Re: We all have our handicaps // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>How many women do you approach to get a number? How many numbers to get a>meeting? How many meetings to get a lay?>at 1 club 2 on the street.

It all depends on your style of weeding out chicks. If you are onlyapproaching girls for their bodies and you will fuck them regardless of theirminds or number of kids or whatever, then you are AIMING for 100% numberretrieval. however, if you are looking for something like a chick that is nottaken or not divorced or not as old as she is or doesnt work as much... youhave to get to know her for a minute or two before you decide if you want hernumber at all.

If your question is on the average, how many chicks do you approach before youget one number it depends on the signs you look for BEFORE you approach achick. if you look for her to be interested in you, you will have a highprecentage. if you look only for what you want, you will run into the barrierof what she wants A LOT... but you will approach more women so the lowerpercentage of a higher number evens out. It also depends on your personalityand what you are offering a chick. I guarantee you the guy that says "I wantto take you to tavern on the green and on carraige rides in Central Park" willget the number a higher percenatage than the guy that just likes her and wantsto meet her. So if you want to increase percentages, just make sure you SAYyou want to give the girl what she is missing.

This is a good question though. I will start to research what it takes to getnumbers... personally, I am not interested in numbers because if the chickisnt interested in me sexually AND seems like a good lay, I have no need tocall her in the first place and if she is interested, Im going to try toisolate her ASAP on the spot and see what I can do :

As far as how many meetings to get a lay, I dont see any reason NOT to getlaid on your first date with a chick. as long as you have explained to herwhat you like from women, she should be willing to do that for you. if not,you took the WRONG woman out : OTOH, if you are talking about how many womendoes one meet before one wants to fuck, it depends on how you present yourself.If you present yourself as a guy that likes to fuck women, they will eitherstay or leave. the ones that stay will get with it and the ones that leave...fuck em they were a waste of your time anyway.

the whole question is vague, but you can tailor your style to achieve desiredresults.

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Re: We all have our handicaps / Post 427




Subject: Re: We all have our handicaps // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>I could get digits from 90% of any girl I talked to who>didnt have a BF just by going up to them and asking for it,>its really that easy, I have a box of numbers at home,>but the prob was I would only end up hooking up with like 1>out of ten.

very interesting craig. is this in a small town setting or big city? in NYC,people are more paranoid and a 90% sussess ratio at getting numbers just byasking for them means you look like Ken from the Barbie Doll collection orsomething... whatever, 90% is astronomically incredible : I suspect that isin a more friendly setting like suburbs or something. not that I am doubtingyou for an instant. Actually I am going to do an experiment. I am going tocold-ask girls for their numbers and see what they say : I need to bringalong a notepad and mark down their responses :

also, how do you define "hooking up"? do you mean that you only got dates outof 1 in 10? you only fucked 1 in 10? you only got along with 1 in 10? what?>I dont think how often you can get a number is>important, but how often you can get a quality number that>gets you somewhere.

that starts with YOU I think. you have to have a specific idea of what youwill and will not tolerate from chicks that you will allow to hang with you. if you weed them out in the beginning, you end up with a higher percentage ofgood numbers. btw - what do they think you want their numbers for? do youtell them you want to call them? do you tell them youd like to ask them outsometime? what is the pretense under which they are giving you the digits?>Now that Ive started focusing on only>getting quality numbers my ratio has gone up to about 1 out>of 2, which still doesnt seem that good but Im working on>it! Dont waste your time getting numbers from girls who>arent giving you positive signals.

ok thats what I was talking about earlier>Its easy to get caught>up in ego boosting number collections and contests, but>around here a girl will give her number to just about>anyone.

damn I should have read ahead... thats what I was saying about suburbs vsbig-city :>Instead of cruising around the club trying to get

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>as many numbers as you can, spend a little more time no>more than 20 min...Thanks Mystery! with each girl and try>to get at least a kiss close to go with the number...Then>you know she will be hot when you call.

right. you want to be the guy that she WANTS to call her, not just some guyshe met like she meets guys every day.>Cold numbers dont>mean shit unless you are REALLY good on the phone Thanks>Shade!.

I am really BAD on the phone. my tonality sucks and I am just not into A forbeing sexy. I can convey personality and fun to no end, but as far as makingthem hot, I keep it online or in-her-face.

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Re: I just dont find you attractive .... yet / Post 428




Subject: Re: I just dont find you attractive .... yet // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>>I subscribe to your emotions follow biology theory and it quickly becomes "I>>like this guy a lot and he is sexy and I am not getting laid... why dont I>try>>him out... he has already proven that hes not going to RUN SCREAMING out of>my>>life, and if it doesnt work, we can still be friends.">>Right. It seems like you guys are pretty psycho to us when you do that>hot and cold thing. First you cant get enough of us, then you wont>even say hi?

that is odd. all I can say about that is that I am driven by instinct. theonly way I go hot and cold on chicks is when that drive to fuck you disappears.I am not saying it disappears after the first time we have sex, but when itgoes, its OVER! Its like having a box of ice cream... but just the box!HAHAHAHA no more ice cream. I cant speak for everyone, but the reason Icant get enough of a chick is that I feel different around them. I feelhorny. I feel attracted. it is different from relating to guys orunattractive women. it is a rush like any other drug. Imagine drinking beerand not getting high from it? whats the point of that? when I lose that HIGHof wanting to spend time with a chick, its just totally GONE! its not aconscious decision, its based on biology and I have no CRAVING for you anymore. thats just how it goes.

what I cant understand is when guys are still attracted to chicks and justturn off to them like that. that is pretty fucked up. I would like to knowwhy guys do that too. fuck that shit. as long as shes still hot looking andhorny, she can hang with me ANYTME! :>Then you hear the conversations in the womens room, or>the gym or whatever....>Woman 1: Saw so and so guy she just slept with...wouldnt even say>hi. Acted like a total dick. >>Woman 2: I told you he was a player!>>Woman 1: What a douchebag. he thinks hes all that.

thats something different from a player. being a player does NOT includeacting like you dont know chicks all of a sudden. thats some clubhouse"watch me dis her" shit, or the guy has personal issues that he needs toresolve within himself.>Yeah, why not? ...and wouldnt you rather be known as a person who

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Re: I just dont find you attractive .... yet / Post 428MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com
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>behaves like a gentleman instead of a jerkoff? You will meet more>women this way.

nope. it depends. if I am naturally an asshole, I need women around me thataccept that or at least tolerate it or maybe LOVE IT! It is too much trouble,except for conniving one-night-stands, to ACT like something you are not. trust me, I have tried it longer-term than a week and it wears you down... itsnot worth it... just find another chick.>Heres a term from my neighborhood growing up.>Yarblar. Know what it means? I still laugh when i think about it.

never heard of it>>unfortunately SELENA is dead, so>>I guess I wont be committing to anyone :>>There are a few more dark haired exotic types out there.

good point... Ill get out my measuring tape and look for candidates :>At least you were a stand up guy.so to>speak.

hey... Ill be a stand-up guy for any LAY-DOWN CHICK! :


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Re: I just dont find you attractive .... yet / Post 428MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com

Re: Lay report... / Post 429




Subject: Re: Lay report... // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>Oh!>MrSex...you posted this earlier:>>"...you showed her that there would be NO>REPERCUSSIONS from you taking something of hers and doing what you want>with>it... like her pussy later on.">>I fucking spit water all over my monitor and keyboard cause I started>laughing. That last part was classic, man. Like it was just an>afterthought or something. Fucking hilarious, dude!! Haha! Youre the>man!>>>Later!>-IX

hahahaha

yeah man, it WAS an afterthought... but thats how it works. what you do istranslated into other situations. the guy that says "um... excuse me... willyou dance with me" is most likely to ask her if he can fuck her and ask herthis and that... some women dont want pathetic wimps like that. some womenONLY like men that can take control, like I ONLY like women that feel hornynaturally and WANT to have sex. thats the translation. you took hercigarette now... when it comes to fucking, youre going to take her and blowher fucking mind... instead of asking her can you put your dick in and fuckingher missionary style and boring the fuck out of her. some women are lookingfor a personality type that will bring EXCITEMENT into their lives at alllevels. thats what you showed her... if you get with me, anything couldhappen to you... and she accepted and liked it.


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Re: Lay report... / Post 429MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com
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Re: LOOKS / Post 430




Subject: Re: LOOKS // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>anyway, there is a bright side to all this. In my own little sadistic>mind i know he is going to blow it because he is a skateboarder , pot>smokin, drinkin, partyin fool that is into heavy drugs, and i can tell>that she is VERY shy , and not into any of that.

this is your perfect opportunity, but you need to play it right. the move hereis to set her up with your friend. before you start complaining : if you areSURE she wont like him, meet her under the guise of helping her to get to meethim. find out stuff about her at your leisure and gather information for yourassault. then, if you cant SS her before actually introducing her to him, doit. she will love you for getting her a date with the guy she wanted and thenshe will see that he is full of shit and you will be in there. plus you willhave all sorts of background knowledge on her that she would NEVER have givenyou if you had approached her directly for a date. chicks love to confide inpeople OTHER than their boyfriends. you will have information that your friendwill NEVER get. use it to your advantage and fill in the missing holes in herlife for her and you will have her by using her AND your friend.>i probably am comming off as a bitter asshole physcho but the point is ,>he is going to blow it because he dont know what we all know and even>tho he has his foot in the door with his looks, if you dont have>personality then thats as far as you get.>c ya!!!!!!!!>p.s. besides now that her friend has asked about him i can make my move>and she can;t say she has a boyfriend or say she dont want one!!!! man>i am a sick bastard ha ha ha !!

yeah, but sick or not, if she doesnt like YOU, you are fucking up trying toget her. play the helpful human being role and ge to know her while she THINKSyou dont want her. use her girlfriend too for that. you may end up in aslumber-party threesome with the two bitches :


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Re: LOOKS / Post 430MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com
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Re: How do I know he likes me? / Post 431




Subject: Re: How do I know he likes me? // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

> American guys, please, tell me how do you behave when you like>someone, especially when due to circumstances or shyness you cannot>communicate verbally? What body language do you use do you smile to>the person, do you try to approach her/him or avoid her/him?. Im>totally lost. Please, help me.>Olesia.

the guy you were after is probably a fag. forget him. otherwise, go standnear him and say "hi" and look in his eyes. if he gets nervous, hes not a fagand you have a shot. if he looks confident and seems to LIKE the fact that youare in his face, you may be in for a fucking : if he doesnt seem phased byyour presence at all, hes not worth it. ask him what he does for fun, and ifhe picks up the conversation, good. otherwise, leave him alone... one anddone... let him crawl back to you then get him for all his money and time :


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Re: How do I know he likes me? / Post 431MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com
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Re: RE: OK, now I have a question for you guys. / Post 432




Subject: Re: RE: OK, now I have a question for you guys. // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>If they have a husband or a boyfriend...shouldnt they be wearing a ring>or in some cases a braclet/neckclace/medallion etc.?

thats a good point. there should be some familiar marking of the mansproperty :

however, when I see a chick I like, the LAST fucking thing Im looking at isher hands. lots of times I come on to married women with big rocks on theirhands : Im like oops! then its up to her to call me back over as Imleaving her, but at this point, I would tell her forget it becaues all thattaken chick shit is too dangerous AND unnecessary :


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Re: RE: OK, now I have a question for you guys. / Post 432MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com
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Re: To Mystery: Bitch Shield? / Post 433




Subject: Re: To Mystery: Bitch Shield? // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>As I walked by to use the restroom, I said, "So why are you two sitting>out here near the mens room? Are you some sort of Guardians of Masculinity>or something?" It got a laugh, and I spoke with them for awhile.

right here, you demonstrated personality. you just said to these two chicksthat you are meeting for the FIRST TIME that have NO IMPRESSION of you excepthow you look "If I want to entertain you, I am going to dig into my goodie-bagof witty statements and try to wow you with one" That is neither interestingNOR sexy. yes, you got a laugh, but what exactly were they laughing AT? werethey laughing at the image you conjured in their minds of them guardingmasculinity? were they laughing at ANOTHER IN A SERIES of pathetic lines theyheard that night? were they laughing at the next guy that was going to try tomeet them when they both had boyfriends? were they laughing because theyidentified with your sense of humor and were glad to meet a man whose mindworks the same as theirs? just because chicks are laughing doesnt mean itsGOOD for you.>The>less attractive friend was more friendly, but I wanted to talk to the>cuter one. It turned out she worked in social service type jobs, so>I encouraged her to talk about her calling.

mistake. you should have entertained BOTH. consider that if the lessattractive one invites you out, her good looking friend is coming along too. if you had talked to the lesser one, you could have ended up in a goodsituation with the cuter one. besides, chicks can tell when their girlfriendslike you. they are more interested in NOT getting in those "you stole my man"conversations and its worse for you. entertain both and you will end up withthe one you really want.>Well, throughout the conversation, she talked quite a lot about what>she did in her life, her love of helping people, etc. And she was>polite and asked me what I was into, etc. So, verbally, she was>conversational.

that gets you nowhere. some chicks jsut cant say they dont want to talk toyou. also, she is a humanitarian. she will talk to you in a club like shewill bandage a hurt dog in the street.>However, she constantly looked over my shoulders, very rarely looking me>in the eyes as we spoke. Kind of got the feeling of "Im only talking to>you until someone I really want to talk to comes along..."

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Re: To Mystery: Bitch Shield? / Post 433MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com
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basically. very bad sign>There wasnt>a "bitch shield" as such, but her variant on the "bitch sheild" was being>nice and polite and conversational without actually being "present" while>we talked.

thats not a shield... its just a temporary mode. "I will not tell him to goaway as long as he doesnt touch me and doesnt hinder me from meeting a guy Iwant to fuck tonight" if you had stayed long enough for her to see a potentialfuck over your shoulder, you would have been PROMPTLY EJECTED so the guywouldnt think she was taken.>So, what do you do when a woman is friendly and conversational, but not>really _warm_, not engaging you, not really present in the conversation?>Dya think I oughtve said "theres a 9, I need to neg her"? Or can one>neg after one notices shes not really there?

if you are being ignored and you can stand that, try to get her number. ingeneral, if shes not impressed with you and you cant change her mind ormental state in 20 minutes, youre screwed. chicks know what they want andits up to you to convinve her that you are NOT a geek and she wants you in herlife and she wants to sex you.


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Re: To Mystery: Bitch Shield? / Post 433MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com
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Re: What does "Do you have a girlfriend at the moment... / Post 434




Subject: Re: What does "Do you have a girlfriend at the moment?" generally mean? // viewthread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>What do you think the average girls motivation is when asking this question,>given the way women tend to think. Is it safe to read into it at all?. Im>not sure myself, sometimes ive asked this question to girls who I have no>real interest in, just as a topic of conversation. Anyway, what do you guys>think............

you can tell by how she acts when she asks you. I was badgering this chickthat drove my wing and me to a bar one time about what guys she liked here inthe bar. after a while, she finally said "what about you? why dont we find agirl for you in here?" Iknow thats not the exact same thing, but she couldhave said something that would have made me think of her as a potential sexpartner.

OTOH I was discussing relationships with another chick and she didnt ask meanything about MY relationships until she saw something in me that MADE HERWANT TO KNOW. when she asked "are you seeing anybody?" it was obvious that shewas adding me into the list of potential suitors. I could tell by her level ofinterest and the look on her face that it was not just a fact-finding question.

in general, you have to assess where you are with the chick. if you have givenher reason to like you and she asks for more information about you, she isprobably sizing you up and is interested in kissing you, but she is figuringout the long-term consequences of her actions. if it is just an out of theblue, unconnected statement, its probably nothing.

I dont ask chicks about that because of the cascade of questions that follows.how long since youve been in a relationship, why not, how did you break up,what are you looking for..... unless Im willing to travel that path, I dontbring it up at all :


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Re: What does "Do you have a girlfriend at the moment... / Post 434MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com
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Re: What to do if guys are trying to fuck up your sty... / Post 435




Subject: Re: What to do if guys are trying to fuck up your style.. // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>As far as you are concerned the girl has to be entertained by you. If>she sees other guys as being more confident and more entertaining she>most certainly will excuse herself to the bathroom or the bar to hook up>with them later.>>Thats why its important to work quickly so that you do not take more>time than is necessary to secure a chick take her home or spend some>quality KINO time with her on the couch/dancefloor somewhere.>Getting numbers on their own is unreliable.

thats the most important thing. speed. there needs to be speed in yourseduction. I missed a great op the other day. I was at my friends office andthis chick came out of nowhere to give my friend some materials and saw me andintroduced herself. I said hi and I could see in her eyes that she liked mealready. I wasnt really concerned so I really wasnt in full attack mode. Istarted talking to her about vacations and giving her the whole "we are soalike" lines... after a while oh my friend had left us in his area I haddecided that I liked her and wanted to know more about her and was willing totake her to coffee... but I didnt say that : I fucking thought I had all thetime in the world, then a friend of hers passed by then another and another. suddenly Im in this GROUP of people that know each other and I was like ohshit! : I had gone from a perfect extraction to a group where I couldntinconspicuously extract her again. the reason I couldnt was it was myfriends job and I didnt want to make any waves for him. she was still in thegroup when we left for lunch she had already gone is why we didnt invite heralong and gave me a nice look as she was telling me bye and she hoped to seeme around : fuck! no matter... Ill get my friend to bring her out someother time.

the point is just what you were saying. there is a need for speed. at anytime, her bus could come or her train stop could come or her ex-boyfriend couldcome or her CURRENT boyfriend could come... your stage could change DRASTICALLYand immediately. as soon as you decide you want her, let her know you wouldlike to see her again and get her number, or if you think you can get her thatday... extract her from random occurances ASAP


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Re: Group Openers? / Post 436




Subject: Re: Group Openers? // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>After about 1-1/2min of this, the Sumo Wrestler UG does an>interrupt. Id just asked another question to nobody in particular, 8>answers, relays message she might have been a bit thick, and Sumo, before>8 has stopped talking, cuts in and starts talking to her about something>theyd done earlier in the day. What a fucking ignorant bastard! I stalled,>but didnt stall I mean I hadnt approached, not even moved an inch. I>tried to figure a way back in, gave em a minute or so to return to convo,>then just turned my back.>Next thing, Mr B, who obviously knew them, appears entirely ignores me well>I suppose I was an obstacle to him & takes the remaining seat at the table.>What did I do wrong guys?

I read ahead to Nathans post because I was stumped here too. I think hisadvice was on-point. you had already violated the group rule by approachingthe target first. the rules of engagement were different because of this. also, in this trio, the target was clearly superior to the UGs and thereforethe leader. you had the leaders attention and should have kept it. Once youget your hands on the leader/target, try to extract her. if you cantextract... at least keep her attention on you. by trying to involve theothers, you gave her a reason in her mind to turn to them and talk... one toomany times and it backfired on you. Once you get to the target you have toconcentrate on getting her in love with you or whatever the goal is. there isno room for distractions of any kind... thus the disarm obstacles theory andthe reason WHY you approach the UGs FIRST and get them out of the way so theydont FEEL LIKE cock-blocking you like they did.


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Re: OK, now I have a question for you guys. / Post 437




Subject: Re: OK, now I have a question for you guys. // view thread onlinePost Date: July 23rd, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>There is only one place I dont wear my rings, and its Karate, because>its forbidden for obvious reasons. This happens also to be the place>that prompted the question.>>Kate

in that case, just tell the guy

"Im flattered, but Im married"


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Re: MY Club report / Post 438




Subject: Re: MY Club report // view thread onlinePost Date: July 24th, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>>so basically I wasnt able to get a SINGLE dance, after appraoching at>least 7 chicks to dance>after noticing that most chicks were either dancing either with other>chicks or male friends i said forget it and just observed. I noticed>that there was VERY LITTLE "dirty dancing" as to say.>>so that was my first experience at a club, i just turned 20 btw.>comments please? experiences?

heres a tip SB.

I USED TO go to culture club when it was Rock Ridge Saloon.

YOU WILL NOT BREAK INTO GROUPS OF CHICKS IN THAT CLUB!

it wont happen, trust me. this is how that club works.

there are regulars and there are others. the regulars associate with theregulars and THATS IT! of course there is an exception to every rule, butthat club is a particular BALL-BUSTER!

matter of fact, thats where I made up my staring at the chicks dancing style. PRECICELY BECAUSE you cant get dances there : I was like FUCK THESEBITCHES... if they want to dance with each other and ACT like theyre lesbos,damn straight Im going to watch them do it right in their faces. Thats whereit started, on the second floor of that club when I was chilling with my wingsbored as fuck. I was like fuck it. if they dont want to dance, this is goingto be my personal strip club :

this is how you get girls in that club. FORGET ABOUT DANCING! you have tohang out there and figure out who the regulars are. befriend some of theREGULAR guys that you see socializing with the REGULAR chicks. next, use thoseguys for the introduction... THEN youll have your pick for dancing or whateverelse.

strictly by ACCIDENT, as we were minding our own business, a REGULAR chick madecontact with my wingman. it was all her idea and we both saw it and he wentover and started talking to her. her friends were with her and paid us NOATTENTION... I mean they even SAW their girlfriend talking to my friend andstill wouldnt smile at him or anything... so that night, my wing met ONEREGULAR chick.

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we went back the next week, and LO AND BEHOLD who walks in? the same REGULARchick. she walks in with 3 chicks that totally ignored us last week. shelooks at my friend and recognizes him. all they did the week before was chatfor like 2 minutes... no kiss no number no rap... nothing. her face LIGHTS UPand she yells HI to my wing then comes over and hugs him and they kiss eachother on the cheek, then she looks at me and says hi and kisses me on the cheektoo. I didnt meet her at all the week before. her DUMB ASS BITCHES lookedparticularly confused since they didnt recognize us since they had ignored ussince we werent regulars : I saw a purplexed look on the closest ones faceand she turned to another one like "who are they?" her girlfriend didnt knowso they both shrugged their shoulders and came over to us and smiled big andkissed us on the cheek and hung out with us. no rap by us, no nothing. because ONE REGULAR chick accepted us, we immediately got three other REGULARSand used them to dance with and show off to the other regulars THEN we wereREGULARS although we had been going to that bar for weeks before that :

if you go next week, report and tell me if I am right or not. watch all thebitches want to dance with other bitches in groups of 2 or 3. then you havethe chicks that will sit on the "bleachers" all night... fuck them too : theonly way to score big at that club... short of walking in with dicaprio is toget to be a regular by being seen with REGULAR chicks there. still, it iscliqueish. that wont get you down with everyone, but if you meet the rightgirl, you will be attached to a nice CORE of chicks that you can count on toboost your rep every week.

That is NOT to say that we never got on independently. we could get on withchicks that also were not regulars because they didnt subscribe to the RULESof that club as they seemed to be : Im talking about the girls that you seeEVERY WEEK dancing with themselves and tons of guys trying to dance with themand they ignore the guys or leave for another area... they will even COME ANDGET YOU so they can dance with you and avoid non-REGULARS :

BTW - does the tap beer still taste like chalk? :


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Re: Real chick logic humor stories! / Post 439




Subject: Re: Real chick logic humor stories! // view thread onlinePost Date: July 24th, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>Chick Logic Humor!>>Here a few humourous instances of all too common "chick logic" >fucked up logic that makes sense only to chicks that I have >encountered recently. Enjoy... its all real BTW... ;-

I have to say up front... thus was some of the funniest and most on-point shitI have heard to date from this NG :>1I invite a chick over for supper. She refuses and says she is >busy as she has an appointment with her friends that evening, >but lunch is okay. She comes over, we have lunch and I>lay her. She ends up spending the night. I ask her the next morning>what happened to her friends and night appointment. She replies>that she didnt really have an appt, but just that if she came>over for supper, she would probably have slept with me.>>I told her, "but you came over for lunch and slept with me anyways..">Chick replies "that was different, because I didnt expect that!"

not exactly the same, but

I tell a chick that I want her to come over to strip for me and have some fun; she declines my DIRECT OFFER OF SEX! I told her specifically what I wantedto do when she came over and she DECLINED. Instead, we go out to a bar forlunch. She gets shitfaced and we go back to her place and do everything Iwanted to do except for stripping!? WHAT THE FUCK? it was no more than threehours between the phone conversation and us making out delay due to time forlunch and drinking etc. you would think that by her disinterest in coming tomy house and fucking that she didnt want to fuck at all : I think she wassuffering from that "chick thing" where if she replied to a direct offer, sheis a SLUT, and if it happens by some SUPERNATURAL MAGIC read:alcohol, it is awonderful thing and she is NOT a slut.

and for those of you that will attempt to argue that she didnt know what shewas doing... she knew what I wanted, so she SHOULD have takens steps NOT to getdrunk and fuck if thats what she really wanted. PLUS I stayed over at herhouse and we had breakfast then I dropped her off at work and everything wasregular.

that "I didnt expect it" shit is a bitch isnt it? you cant DIRECTLY tell achick to fuck but if she gets SWEPT AWAY in the moment, its fine : thatswhy we are here... to learn how to SWEEP THEIR ASSES AWAY by design ;

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>2I lay Ms. Kinky remember her?..see lay report, and I ask her her>phone number.>She gives me her portable number, and tells me she doesnt have>a regular home phone many people dont actually, in Japan. I lay>her a few more times, then I spend a night at her place. She has>a home phone there.

hahaha I have a quasi-similar idiot chick story like that. I met a chick inthe subway and requested her number. she gave me her pager number under thepretense that she has no home phone. I page her the next day and she calls meOBVIOUSLY from inside an apartment : I set her up saying "Where are you, yoursisters house?" she says "NAH... Im at home."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA fucking crash test dummy!>I ask her why she didnt tell me the truth. She replies that there>are many people you cant trust out there, and her friends told her>to not give her phone number to people she didnt know well because>you can never know what might happen.>>I reply jokingly "oh, I see, so then you always let people you dont>know tie you up and fuck you, and you spend nights in their places>on the first night out,, who you dont trust enough to give them your >phone number because your friends told you to be careful of strangers>and what might happen to you".

thats the fucking truth man... its ridiculous :/ hahahaha. its like theythink "do what you want to me one time, but I dont want you to have the optionof doing it ever again, because receiving multiple phone calls from you andpossibly having to change my number is way worse than potential rape or death: fucking idiots :>She replied a joking grin back, and gave me her home number.>>3A chick I know who is just a friend in another city. I am going>to that city, and ask to stay at her place. She tells me she has>to ask her out of town BF first before I can stay there, because>she will feel guilty if she doesnt and some shit about trust in>her relationship with her BF.>>She asks the BF, its ok, and I get the invite 2 days later and I >show up that week. That evening when we are talking, she tells me >she is fucking another guy behind her BFs back on weeknights when >the regular BF is travelling on business.>>I didnt even ask about why she had to ask permission to her reg>about me then. ;-

I have your answer to that one. she has an understanding with the EXTRA guy. he knows how to play it when the BF calls so there is no reason to worry. since you and she are friends, she would feel bad having to SUDDENLY kick youout if he came over unexpectedly. plus she probably fucks other places thanher place with the extra guy. plus people might have seen you and her comingout of her place together and she needed to cover her tracks... if someone seesYOU and tells the BF, then hes going to be suspicious and eventually catch herand her extra... then again... I am a guy... I use logic... never mind :

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truthfully, I think the reason is that she was willing to ADMIT that you werethere and NEVER ADMIT that the extra guy was ever there. I am even though Iclaim to be quitting over chicks houses all the time when they ignore theirBFs calls when they see him on call waiting : or I lay there trying not toSNEEZE while she tells her BF some bullshit lies about where she was all dayand who she was with and WHY she doesnt feel like going out with him tonight:>So there you go, chick logic humor for the night ;-

tremendous man... I dont know why I didnt start a thread on ridiculousinconsistancies from chicks. I guess I am so used to it that I dont evenconsider it abnormal when they do wacky shit :


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Re: Charlie 7/24/99 Kiss Close and # / Post 440




Subject: Re: Charlie 7/24/99 Kiss Close and # // view thread onlinePost Date: July 24th, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>hes still an AFC... but Im teaching him... He had a girl come up to>him tonight and get right in his face and say... "When are you going to>take me out and buy me dinner?" He said "Whenever you want" I gave him>shit about that one...

he should have said:

"why should I take YOU out to dinner?" with a really sly grin on his face. the idea is to make her understand that you are WILLING to take her to dinneras a REWARD for something, but you are leaving it up to her what she is goingto do to deserve dinner. if she doesnt come up with anything sexy, decline itsaying "nope, not enough" or something like that. if she says because shelooks good or something like that, say "yeah, but so does she and so does she"for as many fine chicks as you can spot. then ask her again how shes going toseperate herself from the crowd. hold out for the sex! :


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Re: hat To Do When She Calls Her Boyfriend "My Friend"? / Post 441




Subject: Re: hat To Do When She Calls Her Boyfriend "My Friend"? // view thread onlinePost Date: July 24th, 1999 09:00:00 PM EDTGroup/Board: alt.seduction.fastArticle Author: "MrSex4uNYC" if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected] recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC"Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com

>Anyway, I started talking with her, and it turned out she was rather>smart, and damn interesting... quite a lot of depth to her. We talked>for awhile, and had a great time, had some stuff in common. She also>mentioned that she was "waiting for a friend." I was wondering if said>friend was a boyfriend or not, but didnt bring it up for awhile, just to>make it seem not quite as important. A bit later, I said "I was wondering,>this friend youre waiting for your boyfriend?" to which she said yes, he>was. Turned out theyd been going out for 7 months. Anyway, I made a joke>of it "Ah, ought I to disappear so he doesnt turn me into a bloody pulp>for talking to his girlfriend?"

ok. FIRST OF ALL... this NG is ALL ABOUT LANGUAGE do not use your ownlanguage to fuck yourself up. all you are doing with this "witty" comment isplacing the image in her mind of her BF standing VICTORIOUS over you as you liebloody on the floor. HOW ROMANTIC IS THAT? bitches want a prince charming,not some sucker. really dude. be careful with your choice of words. howabout saying "I ought to disappear before he thinks Im trying to whick youaway to bermuda with me for drinks on the beach" THAT sets up a FAVORABLEimage in her head of you and helps you get to the desired goal... fucking her.

now. she said it was her "friend" because friend gives you no informationabout her life and

A its none of your business WHO she is waiting forB its none of your business what her relationship is to who she is waitingforC she felt comfortable relating to you so she didnt need to HIDE behind a BFif she wanted to reject you.D its possible that she was giving you a CHANCE to NOT KNOW she had aboyfriend and try to get her for yourself :


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