About five vimuttaayatana in AN(5,26)

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5th-June-2012, 06:42 PM

About five vimuttaayatana in AN(5,26)

Dear Ajahn,

AN(5,26) Vimuttaayatana Sutta explains five possible cases that a monk gain Samadhi which leads to avimutta.m vaa citta.m vimuccati, aparikkhii.naa vaa aasavaa parikkhaya.m gacchanti, ananuppatta.m vaa anuttara.m yogakkhema.m

I guess the Samadhi mentioned here like 5th type of ariyo-pancangika-sammasamadhi in AN(5,28) Which seems to me an upacaara state which most probably after jhana or sometimes before jhana (for some cases as a person listening closely to Buddha or giving a talk?)which his hindrances disappeared, with powerful mindfulness for reflection.

Bhante, do you agree with me? Please correct me if Im wrong.

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14th-June-2012, 09:59 AM

Dear Ven,

This is how I would interpret AN5:26.

Firstly, there may be some significance to the v, "or", in avimutta v citta vimuccati, aparikkh v sav parikkhaya gacchanti, ananuppatta v anuttara yogakkhema anupputi. The v only makes sense if these three are referring to different things. I would suggest citta vimuccati here refers to jhna, the jhnas being temporary liberations. sav parikkhaya gacchanti I would then understand as referring to some savs coming to an end, but not all. This would then refer to any of the first three stages of awakening. It is only anuttara yogakkhema anupputi that I would regard as the full attainment of arahantship. This structure fits with the usual gradual exposition of the Buddha'sd teachings.

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The main body of the sutta refers to four ways of reflecting on the Dhamma (including listening to it and teaching it to others). Based on this reflection the person gains samdhi. The implication is that this samdhi then leads to the three benefits mentioned above. The question is, do these three benefits occur while he is reflecting (including listening to) the Dhamma? I think there are at least two ways of looking at this.

Firstly, someone may be a regular jhna attainer. When he or she then listens to the Dhamma, or reflects on it, their mind is already pure. Because of this it is easy for them to gain "inspiration in the Dhamma" and they are able to obtain deep insights on the spot.

Alternatively, a person may not be a regular jhna attainer, but nevertheless gains inspiration while listening to or relfecting on the Dhamma. They then retire to their kuti for solitude and use the inspiration to deepen their meditation to the point of jhna and/or deep insight.

Is this the same as the 5th type of ariya-pacagika-samm-samdhi of AN5:28? I am not sure. I tend to think of this fifth type of samdhi as something that occurs after jhna and that involves the contemplation of the jhnas themselves. The samdhi at AN5:26, by contrast, arises due to inspiration in the Dhamma.

With metta.

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