Overcoming the Seduction Community

Aaron Sleazy

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Overview

• My Background

• The “Seduction Industry”

• What to do instead

• Q & A

My Background

Why listen to me?

• Rapid development, nine months to “mastery”

• Unusually high skill-level

• Had to learn game, thus: high level of understanding (unlike naturals)

In a Nutshell

• Started with “game” in late 2006 at the age of 27

• Began to take “game” seriously in early 2008

• Focussed on clubs (because I love them)

• “Sleazy Rockstar”: 2008

• “King of the Fool’s Mate”: 2009

• Currently in a monogamous relationship

But:

• Conservative Upbringing

• Authoritative Father

• As a result, I never blindly accepted authority

• My life started at 25 (Berlin)

• Gradually became social

• How did I get good so quickly?

Decisive Factors

• Probably no accident that I got heavily into pickup when my life changed

• Aimed at doing a PhD, but got disillusioned

• Moved back to Berlin one year later

My Game

• No-Nonsense approach to seduction, no “inner game” mumbo-jumbo etc.

• All about efficiency

• 10:23:18: TVA_Oslo: Sleazy is very one-dimensional

• 10:23:55: apy: at the same time though, Sleazy is trying to find the quickest route from meet to lay, so his one-dimensionality is understandable

More Background

• Check my archive on mASF:

• http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi

• Search for “author”: Sleazy

• Probably best documented progress of anybody on this planet!

Have Goals!

Goals

•What do you want to get out of it?

• Me: losing virginity, then:

• Getting sex somewhat regularly

• Having SNLs (found it strangely fascinating)

• “being a seducer”

• Then I got bored of that (and my “game” took off as I explored boundaries)

Some Achievements• String of ONS/SNL

• Variety of relationship setups

• “Public indecencies”

• Rapid escalation angle

• Lots of bathroom pulls (<15 min)

• Note: cultural differences US/Europe

• Nonverbal pulls

• “instant-pulls”

The Seduction Industry

Myths & Nonsense (just a few)

• Phone numbers are an achievement

• A “kiss-close” is an important step

• You have to “demonstrate value”

• There is a “linear model” (M3)

• “All girls are the same”

• Peacocking

The worst thing that happened

• Neil Strauss’ “The Game”

• It is fiction!

Since “The Game”:• Self-proclaimed “gurus” with no history whatsoever

(but flashy websites)

• “Community” turned into an industry

• Marketers instead of seducers

• “Pickup Artists”

• Heaps of misinformation (because guys that don’t get laid can’t teach how to get laid)

• Can “game” even be taught, at least in the traditional sense?

“This community is completely ridiculous.”

Main Problem with “old school game”

• It’s not fun

• It takes too long to learn

• It misses the point

• E.g. absurd over-complications such as “phone game”, “text game” or downright nonsense like “tapping”

• Mental masturbation is rampant!

• It can easily turn you into a weirdo

Common Trap

• 1) “I experienced X but ... said Y”

• 2) ...then the guys refute their experiences

• 3) They never progress

It’s a cultural phenomenon

• USA

• UK (mainly London)

• ...not much elsewhere

• It is not a global movement

Basics

• Looks

• Height

• Wealth

• Popularity / Fame

• But don’t worry, “game” is the great equalizer (at least in some fictional tale)

More big lies

• “You can get any girl your want.”

• “I go ‘five out of five.’”

• “I never get rejected.”

• “I can make any girl my girlfriend.”

• “I can steal any girl from her boyfriend in max. 15 minutes.” (my favourite)

What does “good” mean?

• The “pros” are a lot worse than you might think (some don’t even get laid)

• If you have a life outside of pickup: five girls/year is good, ten/year is great

Bootcamps

• Scam of the Decade

• Works like this:

• Guy tells you to approach

• If it doesn’t work: millions of suggestions

• If it does work: millions of reasons

• Hides the fact that it’s a numbers’ game

Public Forums

• Mostly a haven for virgins and social retards

• A minority gets laid (barely), and on a low skill level like online dating or #/date

• One-eyed leads the blind

• Seniority and post-count often mistaken for competence

• But what to do instead?

What to do instead

The main idea• Pickup/seduction is not about manipulation!

• Forget magic tricks, routines, patterns, NLP, hypnosis etc.

• Mutual: only happens if the two of you want it!

• Cool guys get laid and always got laid

• Thus: become a cool guy! (easier than you might think)

• Requires: sense of fashion & style, liking yourself (and your body), being comfortable with (your) sexuality

• Before we start to pick up girls, we have to work on ourselves – this might be hard work!

Consequences

• Instead of learning “routines”, spend time at the gym

• Pick an at least semi-social hobby, get some friends

• Get a decent wardrobe

• Yes, it’s shallow, but that’s just how it is

• Also proven to work

Nobody has all the answers!

• Cf. martial arts

• Different styles evolve based on the personality of the “seducer”

• Don’t follow anyone’s advice blindly even if they are good

About my Style• Love going to clubs

• Not overly talkative

• Not extremely social

• In touch with my body/sexuality

• Therefore I escalate quickly and do mostly non-verbal game

• It wouldn’t work for everybody, but feel free to try

A friend of mine

• Precocious 17 y/o

• Strong case of ADD

• Couldn’t even remember “routines”

• Otherwise talkative, very impulsive and outgoing, always talks about sex

• Gets more girls than five random “gurus” put together

Instead of Scripts, Routines etc

• Find your scene/environment

• Show up

• Choose the right girl

• Be willing and ready to escalate

• If she likes you she’ll give you a chance, if not, nothing (=no routine in the world!) will make her change her mind

• This “method” is more effective than any kind of “game”. Think about that for a moment.

Relationships

• “Bedding them is easy, keeping them is hard.” (???)

• Maybe this is true for routines-junkies

• “Looks good next to her”

• Can be introduced to her friends

• ...and her family

• Satisfies her sexually

• Isn’t a complete dickhead

Where to meet them

• Everywhere

• Social circle

• During your (!) day: hobbies, activities, shopping

• ...or at night

• Why not “online”?

Take home message

• Get out

• Forget about “pickup theory”

• Fix your life

• ...and get laid

• It is no big deal!

Aaron Sleazy

• http://www.AaronSleazy.com

• http://www.AaronSleazy.com/forum

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