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    ++ Regarding KJV Bibles the Cambridge (Pure Cambridge Edition) text is most likely the

    best KJV Bible but they are almost impossible to find, while the Cambridge Concord

    Edition and the Cambridge Pitt Minion Edition are also very good. I ordered one of the

    pocket KJV Pitt Minions listed below and it passed the checklist at the bottom of this

    document. The best deals I could find are at:

    http://www.ecampus.com/book/9780521536929

    http://www.ecampus.com/book/9780521536936

    http://www.thebiblesource.com/product.php?p=2046

    http://www.allbibles.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=0521007429

    http://www.allbibles.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=0521007372

    http://www.ecampus.com/book/9780521537001

    http://www.thebiblesource.com/product.php?p=420

    http://www.thebiblesource.com/product.php?p=2107

    Dr. Johnson

    Beware of Altered King James Bibles

    Dr. Scott Johnson

    Sermon Overview: King James Bible believers are faced with an arrayof problems to day. Of course we all know that the multiplicity of allthe new modern versions are a big problem, but another littleknown problem is the fact that many of the worldly publishingcompanies are publishing Bibles and calling them King James Bibleswhen in actuality they are not true King James Bible. Because theKing James Bible is in the public domain and not copyrighted (In all

    places other than England), these worldly publishing companies thinkthey can make minor changes to the standard text so that they canplease certain groups which translates into extra sales forthem. Today you can still find true King James Bibles but you mustproceed with caution. You will be hard pressed to find it at all in anytypical Christian book store (or other stores for that matter) withoutsome alterations to the text Cambridge University Press printed thePCE (PURE CAMBRIDGE EDITION) between about 1900 and about1980. There are millions of them around. It is possible to find nicesecond hand copies. Proverbs 30:5-6: Every word of God ispure: heisa shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto hiswords, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a

    liar.Listen at:http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=825082036444

    What about the Cambridge Pure Edition? - AV1611 Bible ForumsKING JAMES BIBLE: PURE CAMBRIDGE EDITION ... Pure Cambridge Edition of the King James

    Bible www.av1611.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104

    www.av1611.com/forums/showthread.php?t=791&page=2

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    The following downloadable files of the Holy Bible are presented for any use, including

    all forms of further publishing. Use this text as the definitive standard.

    The following file requires at least a document 2001 word processor and an unzippingprogram:

    King James Bible: Pure Cambridge Edition: Formatted Document: Compressed Zip (2.88

    MB). http://www.bibleprotector.com/KJB-PCE.zip

    The following file requires a pdf reading program:

    King James Bible: Pure Cambridge Edition: PDF (5.71 MB).

    http://www.bibleprotector.com/KJB-PCE.pdf

    The following file can be viewed by most text programs and requires an unzipping

    program:

    King James Bible: Pure Cambridge Edition: Rich Text Format: Compressed Zip (1.37

    MB). http://www.bibleprotector.com/KJB-PCE-rtf.zip

    A ready for print file of the King James Bible in Plain Text Minion has been presented.

    Utilise this for printing and binding your own Bible(s). Using paper thinner than 80gsm is

    strongly recommended. Features include:

    1. exact Pure Cambridge Edition text of the King James Bible.

    2. small page size (standard A5 size 148 x 210 mm with ample margins).

    3. uniform odd and even pages ready for print (single sided 900 pages, double = 450

    sheets).

    4. page numbering, blank pages, title pages, contents and running book headings.

    5. with the correct text of The Epistle Dedicatory and The Translators to the Reader.

    6. clean text with classic Minion style typeface and characters.

    7. specifically designed for home printing or low budget print run, requires binding and

    cover.

    The following file requires a pdf reading program and an unzipping program:

    King James Bible: Pure Cambridge Edition: Plain Text Minion: PDF: Compressed Zip

    (5.63 MB). http://www.bibleprotector.com/KJB-PCE_MINION.zip

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    Where to get the Pure Cambridge Edition. This information is subject to change, and needs to be

    added to.

    WHERE TO GET PRINTED COPIES OF THE PCE

    Cambridge. Pitt Minion. Allens Bible Direct.

    http://www.bibles-direct.com/category.phtml?Category=37

    http://www.bibles-direct.com/category.phtml?Category=68

    Cambridge Bibles

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    The best Cambridge Bibles are the Large Print Text Editions, available in Hardback and French

    Morocco leather. The text is 10-10.5 point Petit Medieval Clarendon 1159. The ISBN-13 numbers

    are:

    HARDBACK (ISBN-13: 9780521163347)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ABookSources&isbn=9780521163347

    FRENCH MOROCCO BLACK (ISBN-13: 9780521508810)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ABookSources&isbn=9780521508810

    FRENCH MOROCCO BURGUNDY (ISBN-13: 9780521508803)http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ABookSources&isbn=9780521508803

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    Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject: THIRD DRAFT OF "GUIDE TO THE PCE"

    BOOK

    THIRD DRAFT OF BOOK AVAILABLE

    Download the third draft of the electronic book Guide to the Pure Cambridge Edition of the

    King James Bible, by Matthew Verschuur. This dissertation gives a history of the English

    Bible, and shows how God, by divine providence, brought about a purified text that is

    perfect to the jot and tittle, prepared for the last days Christian restitution and

    evangelisation of the world. Contains extensive research and many new insights. Any

    zealous student of the Bible must read it! The second, partial draft is now available.

    PDF (3.47 MB).

    http://www.bibleprotector.com/Guide_to_the_PCE_draft_0-3.pdf

    New to this draft:

    Part Four: A Pure Language and Another Tongue Bible English and Global English

    - The divine purpose for a pure language

    - The preparation of the English language

    - The divine imprint of Bible English

    - The English Bible and literature

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    - Standard English and the English Bible

    - Purification and Bible English

    - The destiny of the English Bible

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    Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:00 am Post subject:

    I can confirm what vicks is saying about the TBS Calfskin Family Bible. I also have a copy

    of this Bible and vicks's post prompted me to check this. This TBS Calfskin Bible has the

    exact same pagination and text size as my Cambridge plain text large print hardback Bible.

    In fact it looks like it came off the exact same press plates. However I can find only one

    difference. My Cambridge plain text large print hardback has "Spirit" in 1 John 5:8 while

    the TBS Calfskin Family Bible has "spirit" in 1 John 5:8. I did not bother to check the TBS

    Calfskin because the pagination was clearly identical. Thanks to vicks I know there is a

    different and I am pleasantly suprised that this superb Bible is a PCE. The text is veryclear, large and the paper is as opaque as I have seen. Much better than the hardback

    Cambridge.

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    Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:24 am Post subject:

    If you live in the UK, I have found the TBS Calfskin at eden.co.uk, and it costs GBP 55.00

    http://www.eden.co.uk/shop/family-bible-authorised-king-james-version-containing-the-

    old-and-new-testaments-large-type-family-bible-with-family-record-pages-1171833.html

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    Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:30 am Post subject:

    In the United States, it is available for USD 98.50 from STL Distribution North America.

    http://www.stl-distribution.com/details/?id=9780907861591

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    Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:01 pm Post subject:

    Note that Cambridge/TBS have changed to the Concord edition, which means that if you

    happen to order from a place that has the old copies, it will be PCE, otherwise you will end

    up getting a Concord. It could be called by the same name, e.g. "Black Leather Pitt Minion"

    or "Calfskin Leather Large Print Plain Family" or whatever. If they happen to have old ones

    at their warehouse/store they will be PCE, but if newer, they will not be PCE.

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    Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:24 am Post subject:

    I ordered my TBS calfskin Family Bible from Gail Riplingers website and it is a PCE:

    https://shop.avpublications.com/product_info.php?cPath=26&products_id=235&osCsid=89

    a1b1c058dfe31dce272d30098be6f5

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    Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:44 am Post subject:

    Here are the details about the TBS Calfskin Family Bible:

    It was published by the TBS in November 1997

    ISBN-10: 0907861598

    ISBN-13: 9780907861591

    If you get a later edition of the TBS Calfskin Family Bible, the ISBN numbers will be

    different, and it will have a later publishing date.

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    Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: Calfskin Leather PCE KJB Found!

    Was looking for a bible to give to someone as a gift whilst the plans to print PCE's was

    underway so I ordered a few different plain text bibles from the Australia TBS organisation.

    Turns out the Large Print Family Bible (9CFR) lines up with all the checkpoints that Matt

    lists on his website, including the Ezra 2:26 Geba one.

    Here's the bible: http://www.tbs-sales.org/site/sales/category.asp?id=138

    and the Australian TBS site: http://www.trinitarianbiblesociety.org.au

    I'm not sure if all the 9CFR's that the TBS are supplying are all PCE's but the one that just

    got sent to me today from the Australian office is. All their other plain text bibles, including

    the Windsor Text and Ruby Text were not PCE's.

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    Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: Are some World Bibles PCE?

    I have a pocket size World Bible that is the smallest I have ever seen. It is the size of a

    casset tape case and fits easily into almost any pocket. I actually have two of them. One is

    genuine leather while the other is vinyl cased. I have tried to test this Bible to see if it is

    PCE and it has passed every test. Is anyone here aware of this Bible? Can you verify that it

    is PCE?

    The number on the Bible's spine is 891. The number inside is 800-10-50911. The following

    links appear to be the same thing or similar:

    http://www.amazon.com/Smallest-Pocket-Bible-KJV-Version/dp/0529058383/ref=ed_oe_o

    http://www.alibris.com/booksearch.detail?S=R&bid=9313295403&cm_mmc=shopcompare

    -_-base-_-aisbn-_-na

    Thanks Blake

    PS: I have much to say to the Brothers on this website. More than I have time to share

    right now. You have been a blessing.

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    Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject:

    Hello Blake.

    If the Bible matches up to the tests, it is a PCE.

    I have a Collins printed little Bible, which has "WS801" and it seems identical to the

    layout of the first link you provided: The one on the amazon link is a PCE.

    The other link does not work (because it is a link of a search, not a fixed page).

    All the best.

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    KING JAMES BIBLE:

    PURE CAMBRIDGE EDITION (PCE)

    "...Thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. (Psalm 138:2).

    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/KJB/pce.htm

    The Authorized King James Version of the Holy Bible is

    Gods providentially appointed Word for the whole world

    which reveals the name of the Father as Jehovah, and the

    name of His Son, Jesus, in Whom there is salvation, and

    the name of the Holy Ghost, Who indwells every born-

    again Christian believer.

    The standard text of the Cambridge Edition of the King

    James Bible has been published on this website. You are

    free to download this definitive electronic text of the King

    James Bible (KJB). The actual King James Bible text of the

    Pure Cambridge Edition (PCE) has been presented free of any typographical error, and is

    completely correct. It is scrupulously exact in typesetting right down to the italics and

    punctuation.

    This precise edition of the King James Bible is wholly based on the received traditional text as

    was published by Cambridge University Press. God's Word is necessary for true salvation. The

    English Bible has been providentially raised up by God for a great dissemination of the true

    Gospel.

    The Pure Cambridge Edition (first published circa 1900) is the product of the process of textualediting that has occurred since 1611 when the Authorized Version was completed. Please note

    that there've been norevisions of the Bible since the authorized 1611 King James Bible was

    first released, only editions (such as spelling standardization). There is nothing wrong with the

    unedited Authorized 1611 King James Bible. It contains no errors. The standardization of

    English words does not mean that there are any errors in the original work.

    Some people refer to the Cambridge Edition as the Pure Cambridge Edition, but the word

    pure is improper, because the Words of the Lord are pure (Psalm 12:6-8). To refer to the

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    Cambridge Edition as pure implies the the Authorized 1611 King James Bible is less pure or

    impure. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Authorized 1611 King James Version is

    pure, because God's Word is pure and the actual translation of the King James Bible has NOT

    been revised since 1611. So I deliberately refrain from using the word pure in reference to any

    particular edition of the King James Bible, because the original Authorized 1611 King James

    Bible is as 100% pure as the Cambridge Edition. My intent here is not to diminish the

    impeccable quality of the Cambridge Edition; but rather, to uphold the integrity, purity,

    inspiration and inerrancy of the Authorized 1611 Edition.

    Also note that the original autographs of the Scriptures were in Heaven before God ever spoke

    the universe into existence. Psalm 119:89, "For ever, O LORD, Thy word is settled in

    heaven." Thus, the originals do not exist in Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic; but rather, in Heaven

    where they are settled forever. Before God ever created mankind, the last Word of Revelation

    was already recorded in Heaven. God's Words are inspired in any language. Don't let anyone

    discourage you by falsely claiming that the Authorized 1611 King James Bible is less than

    perfect. It is more than a masterpiece, or the best translation, it is God's perfect and inspired

    Word! The Cambridge Edition is simply a standardized English copy of God's perfect Word,

    which He wondrously gave to us in 1611.

    The King James Bible is inspired and preserved. God's Word is inspired into whatever language

    it is translated. God never promised to inspire a language; but rather, His Words (Psalm 12:6-8).

    The Words of the Lord are pure. Those pseudo-scholars today who claim that only the Greek,Hebrew and Aramaic are inspired are WRONG, because God's Word is inspired in English or

    any other language it is translated into. God's Words were given by inspiration. God promised to

    preserve those inspired Words and they will always be inspired. A man who teaches that the

    King James Bible is not inspired is a liar.

    A ready for print file of the King James Bible in Plain Text Minion has been presented. Utilize

    this for printing and binding your own Bible(s). Using paper thinner than 80gsm is strongly

    recommended. Features include:

    1. exact Cambridge Edition text of the King James Bible.2. small page size (standard A5 size 148 x 210 mm with ample margins).3. uniform odd and even pages ready for print (single sided 900 pages, double = 450

    sheets).4. page numbering, blank pages, title pages, contents and running book headings.5. with the correct text of The Epistle Dedicatory and The Translators to the Reader.6. clean text with classic Minion style typeface and characters.7. specifically designed for home printing or low budget print run, requires binding and

    cover.The following file requires a pdf reading program:

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    King James Bible: Cambridge Edition: Plain Text Minion: PDF: (6.92 MB)

    ARE EARLIER EDITIONS OF THE KING JAMES BIBLE INERRANT?

    Yes, absolutely! A typographical error is not actually an "error" in the Bible, because it is only a

    presentation error. The fact is that any KJB (of the proper tradition) is still presenting the same

    text and translation that is correct. The issue is not about "errancy," but about presentation.

    Since we do have an inerrant text and translation, yet there are many differing editions of it, we

    also want to have the edition which has the standard spelling. As a whole, the Cambridge

    Edition is this.

    Use this checklist to ascertain whether the Bible is a Cambridge Edition:

    1. or Sheba not and Sheba in Joshua 19:2

    2. sin not sins in 2nd Chronicles 33:19

    3. Spirit of God not spirit of God in Job 33:4

    4. whom ye not whom he in Jeremiah 34:16

    5. Spirit of God not spirit of God in Ezekiel 11:24

    6. flieth not fleeth in Nahum 3:16

    7. Spirit not spirit in Matthew 4:1

    8. further not farther in Matthew 26:39

    9. bewrayeth not betrayeth in Matthew 26:73

    10. Spirit not spirit in Mark 1:12

    11. spirit not Spirit in Acts 11:28