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Episode125:UnderstandingFoodIntolerance&

FightingForYourFamilywithJJVirgin


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Katie:Hi,andwelcometo"TheHealthyMomsPodcast."I'mKatiefromwellnessmama.com.AndIamsoexcitedtobeherewithtoday'sguest.JJVirginisthefounderandCEOofMindshareSummitandJJVirgin&Associates.Sheisacelebritynutritionist,fitnessexpert,co-hostofTLC'sFreakyEatersandaregularguestonDr.Phil,Dr.Oz,andmanyothers.Hersimplephilosophyof,"Yourbodyisnotabankaccount.It'sachemistrylab,"hashelpedthousands,andsheteachesherclientshowtoeliminatefoodandcarbintolerancessotheycantransformtheirhealthandtheirlives.She'stheauthoroffourNewYorkTimesbestsellers,andherlatestbookismyfavorite,"MiracleMindset,"whichshowswarriormomshowtobestrong,positiveleadersintheirfamilieswhichsheiscertainlyanexpertat.Whileexploringthelessonsinthisbook,shefoughttosaveherownson'slife,andwe'regonnatalkaboutthatamazingstory.Shealsohoststhe"JJVirginLifestyleShow"podcastwhichisgreat.Andsomehow,inadditiontoallofthework,nutritionandfitness,sheisalsoabusinesscoachandmentorformanyentrepreneursthroughtheMindshareSummit.So,JJ,welcome.Thanksforbeinghere.JJ:Oh,goodtobehere.Thankyou.Katie:Well,I'msoexcitedforthisbecauseIthinkyouaresucharolemodelandaninspirationtomoms,especiallybecauseIstillhaveyoungkids.You'veraisedkids.AndsoIlovethatwegettotalkaboutthemomsidealittlebittodayandthemindsetside.Andifit'snottoopersonal,I'dloveifyoucouldstartbytellingyourstory,andespeciallyGrant'sstoryinhowyoucametounderstandthe"MiracleMindset."JJ:Allrighty.DefinitelynotpersonalanddefinitelysomethingthatIwannagetouttotheworldbecauseyoumentioneditinintroducingme,Ithinkthattheworldneedsmorewarriormomsoutthere.Andyouareagreatexampleofone,bytheway,MissKatie.Soitwasrightbefore"TheVirginDiet"wascomingout,likeliterallyweeksbefore.Andjusttokindasetthisup,Iamthesolefinancialsupportformyfamily.Ihadtwoboysatthetime,theywere15and16.AndI'malsooneofthosepeoplethatgoesallin.SoIhadwritten"TheVirginDiet,"it'safoodeliminationdietthat...gosh,youknow,Istarteditwithweightlossbutitcanhelpwith


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everythingfromADD,ADHD,auto-immune.AndIjustthought,youknow,"Thisisgonnabeit."Like,Ineedtogetthismessageouttotheworld.SoItooktheadvancethatIhadgottenforthebookandIinvestedeverybitofitintoapublictelevisionspecialandsomeothermarketing,andIactuallyborrowed,too.SoIwascompletelyin.ThisthinghadtoworkorIwouldn'tbeabletosupportmyfamily.AndIwascominghomefromtapingsomevideos.AndIwalkinthedoor,andmy16-year-oldson,Grant,wasinabadmood.Hewasbeingatypicalteenager,kindofwantedtogodosomethingthathisdadhadalreadysaidnoto.SoIwasbackinguphisdad.Andhestompedoutofthehouse.Anditwasaboutduskwhenhedidthis,stompsoutofthehousewithoutanythingonhim.Ifiguredhe'sgoingovertoafriend'shouse.Iwentintothegaragetodosomebursttraining.AndthenextthingIknow,my15-year-oldsonrunsintothegarageandsays,"Mom,Grant'sbeenhitbyacarandairliftedtothelocalhospital."Anditwasreallylike,Katie,atthatpoint,likeeverything,sortof,becameamoviethatIwaswatchingandIcouldn'treallyquitegraspit.Imean,Ithinkthatourbrainsdothistoprotectusfromsomethingsohorrific.Because,youknow,Ialwayssaidthatnomatterhowstressfulworkgot,relationshipsoranythingelse,Icouldalwayshandleaslongasmykidswereokay.Andobviously,youknow,anairliftisabadthing.Sowecouldn'tfigureoutwhatwasgoingonwithhim.Hewasa"JohnDoe"atthehospital,theonlyreasonweevenknewthathewasinthehospitalwasmyex-husbandandhisothersondrovebythisbigaccidentsceneacoupleblocksfromthehouse,sawaparamedic,theparamediclookedatmyothersonandsaid,"Akid'sgottenhitandyoulookjustlikehim."SoweknewGrantwastherebutwedidn'tknowwhatwasgoingon.Theywouldn'tgiveusanyinformation.Whenwegotthere,theyputusinaconferenceroom.So,youknow,it'sjustgoingfrombadtoworse.Thedoctorswalkinandtheytoldusthathehasatornaortathatkills90%ofpeopleonthescene.Hehadmultiplebrainbleedsandhewasinadeepcoma,deepestonethatyoucouldbein.Andhehad13fractures.Andtheysaidthatifhedidn'tgetthistornaortarepairedthathewoulddiesometimeinthenext24hours.Buttheycouldn'tfixittherebecauseitwasaveryspecializedsurgerythattheydidn'tdoatthishospital.Andtheydidn'trecommendusairliftinghimtothenexthospitalbecausehe'dneversurvivetheairlift.Healsosaidevenifhesurvivedtheairlift,he'snotgonnasurvivethesurgery.Andevenifheweretosurvivethesurgeryandtheairlift,he'dbesobraindamaged,andImean,thisshouldgeteverywarriormom'shacklesup,he'dbesobraindamageditwouldn'tbeworthit.AndIstillrememberlikelookingatthisdoctorgoing,"Wouldn'tbeworthit."Andmy15-year-oldsonatthetime,helooksoveratthisdoctor,andthisiswhatI'msoproudof,sohere'sa15-year-oldlookingatthisdoctorsaying,"So,maybea0.25%chancehe'dmakeit?"Andthedoctorsaid,"Thatsoundsaboutright,son."AndBrycesaid,"Well,we'lltakethoseodds."Andhelookedmeandgoes,"It'snotzero."Youknow,anditjustkindofshowsyouinlifeyoujustgottohavesomethreadofhopetoholdonto.AndsowewenttoseeGrant.AnditwasthemostawfulthingI'veeverseen.Heliterallyhadbonesstickingthroughhisskin.Hewascoveredinroadrash,atubecomingoutofhisbraintomonitorthepressure,hewasonarespirator,likeeverything'sbeeping.AndBrycewalksuptohimandsays,"Dude,youlookreallyuglyrightnow.Butifanyonecanpullthisoff,youcan,youaresuper-strong,you'retough.You'vegotthis."Idon'tknowwhereBrycegotthisfrombecausemyex-husbandandIwerecompletely,like,losingit.Andhejustkindaproppedusup.


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Sowewenthome,threwsomestuffinabag,drovetothehospitalnotknowingwhatweweregonnagofindthere.Andtwoandahalfhoursinthemiddleofthenight,andoncewegotthere,itwasatotallydifferentsituation.Therewerefivesurgicalteams.Thedoctorwhowasinchargeofputtingthestentinjustwalkeduptomeandsaid,"Youdon'tevenneedtoworry,Itotallygotthis.Youjustgo."Hetookme,walkedmeoutofthescene,whichwasimportant.Youknow,hesaidlater,"Ihadtogetoutofthere,"becausetherewereliterallyfivesurgicalteamspreppingmysonforsurgery.He'sinacoma.It'sallfull-courtpress."Theytakeusuptoawaitingroom.Acouplehourslater,hecomesin,it'snowlike8:00inthemorning,hewalksandhegoes,"Allright,stent'sin,he'sfine."Hegoes,"Now,Idon'tknowifhe'lleverwakeup.That'snotmypart.I'mjusttheplumber."Andwewentintomeettheneurosurgeons.Andtheneurosurgeonsarelike,"Wedon'tthinkhe'lleverwakeup,blah,blah,blah."AndIsaid,"I'mnotlisteningtothis.Ofcourse,he'sgonnawakeup."AndIjustkindamadeadecisionfromthatpointforwardbecause,youknow,I'vealwaysbelievedthatyougetwhatyouexpect.AndIthought,youknow,"I'mjustgonnaexpectreallybig."Youknow,soifwefallshort,it'llstillbeokay.Atthispoint,mylitmustestwaslikeanything'sbetterthandead.Ican'tfixdead.Wecandoanything.I'vegotamazingconnections.SoIlookedatGrant,IwasholdinghisfingersandIsaid,"Grant,you'regonnabe110%."Turnsouthisnamemeanswarrior,andIjustsaid,"Ijustneedyoutofight.IcanpullinallthemostamazingresourcesbutIneedyoutofight."Anditwasfourandahalfmonthsinthathospital,weeksinacoma,andit'sbeenfive-years-plusworkingthroughaveryseveretraumaticbraininjurywherehehadtoliterally,at16yearold,hehadtostartalloveragain,learningeverything,howtoeat,howtowalk,howtotalk,howtowrite,whohewas,everything.Andit'sstretchedusinwaysthatIcan'tbelieve.Butweweresittingaroundthetablelastyearandtalkingaboutgratitude.Andmy15-year-oldson,who'snow20,said,"Youknow,weareallbetterbecauseofthis."AndGrantactuallynow,he'ssomuchbetterthanhewasbeforetheaccidentinsomanyways.Andthere'llbedeficitslike,youknow,he'llalwayshaveabraininjurybutit'ssomuchbetter.And,youknow,he'sgotalittlehearinglossbuthe'sbetterthanbefore.And,youknow,we'reallbetterthanbefore.Sonow,mybigcrusadewiththisistogetthatmessageoutthatthethingthatscaresmethemostwithallofthis,Katie,iswhatifwehadlistenedtothatfirstdoctor?Howmanypeoplelistentothatfirstdoctororlistentotheteacherinschoolwhosays,"Theycan'twrite,"orlistentothatpersonwhosaysthey'renogoodattheirjob,youknow?Howmanypeoplelistentosomeonewhoisin,youknow,supposedlyahigherpositionthanthemandletthatdeterminetheirlifeortheirdeath?Katie:Yeah,absolutely.Imean,Ithinkofthatonamuchlessseriousscaleforme,likeforfindingoutmythyroidproblems.Iwentthroughseveraldoctorswhotoldmeitwasallinmyheadbecausetheywereonlytestingacoupleofhormones.Andthenfinallymetourgoodfriend,AlanChristianson,who,like,wasabletofixitanddiagnoseitwithin,like,minutes.Itwasamazing.But,like,Ihavegoosebumpslisteningtoyourstorybecause,Imean,that'severymom'sworstnightmare,Ithink,isgettingthatkindofaphonecall.Andyouhavebeenthroughthatandemergedbetter,whichisincredible.Butwhatdoyouthinkreallymadeyouableinthatmomenttohavethatmindsetandtofight?Becausecertainly,allofuswillfightforourchildren,andIfullyechoyourstatementaboutwarriormoms.Ithinkmomshaveauniqueabilitytochangesocietyandtochangethefutureofhealthbecausewe'reraisingthenextgeneration.Andineffect,Ithinkmomsaretheonlyoneswhotrulycan,tosomedegree.Buthowdidyouinthatmoment,like,findthatinyoutorallyandtofightlikethat?Especiallybecausedoctorsareconsideredsuchanauthorityfigure.Andtohaveadoctortellyou


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basicallythereisnohope,howdidyoufindthatinyoutofight?JJ:So,onepositivenotehereismyex-husband'swholefamilyaredoctors.Youknow,allmyclosestfriendsaredoctors.SoIknewtheywerehumanandthatIwasgettinganopinion,right?AndIthinkthat'salwayssomethingimportant,justlikewithyourthyroidcondition.Youweregettinganopinionandthat'sit.That'sallyou'regetting.Andifitwasn'ttheopinionIwanted,Iwasgonnagolookforothers.Sowehadthatgoingforus.Andturnsoutthatmyex-husband'ssister-in-lawwenttoschoolwiththisdoctorwhosavedGrant'slife.Imean,sowewerelikeonthephonewithpeopleatthathospitallookingforanswers.But,youknow,theinternetisagreatequalizer,andevenifyougo,“wellIdon’tknowanydoctors”,it'samazingwhatyoucancomeupwithveryquicklyifyoujumponFacebook,Instagram,startputtingthewordouttopeople,whatcancometoyou.ButI'vegottobackupalittlebitbecauseeventhewillingnesstodothatcamefromadifferentplace.And,youknow,Katie,Iactuallywroteawholebook.Now,we're,youknow,renamingthebook,"WarriorMom,"becausethat'sreallywhatit'sabout.ButIwrotethewholebookandIdidn'treallyrealizeIwroteallthelessons,thethingsthathelpedmegetthroughwhat'sbeenthelastfiveandahalfyearsofjustreallyhavingtomanagemindsettomakeitthrough.And,youknow,TonyRobbinssays80%oflifeisreallymindset.AndIactuallythinkit'sprobablymorelike95%,it'sreallywhat'sgonnaguidehowyoushowupandthatstrengthyouhave.AndbackwhenIwas30,Iwasapersonaltrainer,andIwasingradschool,andIhadthisamazingclient.ShehadgrownupintrailerparkinKansas,andshewasaself-mademultimillionaire,hugelycharitable,doingamazingworkoutintheworld.AndIjust,youknow,tome,shewaseverything.ShewaswhoIwantedtobe.Shewastheultimaterolemodelofjustthego-giver,youknow,changingtheworld.Andaswe'rewalkingdownthebeach,shegoes,"Whyareyouingradschool?"AndIsaid,"I'mingradschoolbecauseIwannahelpmorepeople."She'slike,"Huh,"youknow.AndIalwaysknewwhenshebegan,"Huh."I'mlike,"Huh."Isaid.Andshegoes,"Whatareyougonnadoaftergradschool?"Isaid,"I'mgonnagogetmyPh.D."Shegoes,"Whyareyoudoingthat?"Igo,"BecauseIwannahelpmorepeople.""Huh."Shegoes,"Youknow,thosedon'tnecessarilycorrelate,likegettingmoreeducationdoesn'tmeanyou'llbeabletohelpmorepeople."AndIsaid,"Itdoesn't?"Shegoes,"No,ifyouwannalearnhowtobemoresuccessful,I'mhappytoteachyou."Now,Imean,itwouldbelike,youknow,DeepakChoprasaying,"Ifyouwannalearnhowtomeditate,I'mhappytoteachyou."Youknow,I'mlike,"Okay,I'mallin,"youknow.Iliterallymovedintoherhouseandlivedwithherforsixmonths,anditwaslikeshewasmyMr.Miyagi.Andforsixmonths,Ithoughtshewasgonnateachmehowtobesuccessfulinbusiness,howtomakeabiggerimpact.Andthefirstday,sheputarubberbandaroundmywrist,andeverytimeIhadalimitingbelieforanegativethought,Iwassupposedtosnapit.Andthisisthetypeofstuffwedidovermonths.Andthefirstweek,I'mlike,"Oh,no,whathaveIdone?"Like,"WhenamIgonnalearn?"AndIkeptaskingher,like,"WhenamIgonnalearnhowtobemoresuccessfulinbusiness,howtomakeabiggerimpact?"Shegoes,"You'renotready.Youhavetohavethemindsetforitfirst."Soallofthethingsthathelpme,eventhatfirstnight,tellthatdoctor,"Hey,we'regonnaoverruleyou."And,youknow,whatIpassedontoBrycesaying,"We'lltakethoseodds,"whatwehadtodointhehospitalover,andover,andoveragainwhen,youknow,thebiggestthingwecouldseethatwholedaywasthatmaybehewiggledatoeorhiseyelidflutteredand,youknow,youhadtogo,"Allright,he'sgonnamakeit,"youknow,everythingcamedowntothosetoolsthatKaySmithhadtaughtmeoversixmonthswhenIwas30.AndthenI


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forgotaboutit,Katie,becauseithadbeensuchapartofme,itjustbecamewhoIwasthatImanagemyenvironment,Ididn'tletnegativityaroundme.Ididn'tevenhavemyownmothercometothehospitalforawhilebecauseshe'soneofthosepeoplethat,youknow,Imean,blessher,thisishowshewasraised,thatshelooksattheglasshalf-emptyandeverythingis,youknow,"Oh,mygosh,whatifhedies?"AndIwaslike,"Icannotbearoundthatrightnow.Ican'teventhinkthatway,"right,atall.Katie:Yeah.Ithinkthat'sahugekey.AndIloveifwecould,like,segueintothehealthsideofthat,too,becauseIfeellikewhereIseethatalot,andwhereI'veevenstruggledwithitmyself,ishavingthatlimitingmindsetwhenitcomestohealthorseeinglike,"I'vealwayshadthishealthproblem,like,it'snevergonnabefixedandit'snever..."SoandIknowthatyouhavehelpedsomanypeoplewiththat.So,howcanpeoplelearnfromthatwhenitcomestotheirownhealthandtheirownstrugglesthey'regoingthrough?JJ:Youknowwhatwasinteresting?Ithoughtaboutitwhen...becausehereitis,"TheVirginDiet"isabouttocomeout,anditmademerealizehowmuchbiggerthatbookwas,thatitwasn'taboutweightlossatall,thatitwasreallyabout,youknow...Iworkatweightloss.I'vebeenworkinginweightlosssincemyteens.Andthebiggestthingpeoplesayinweightlossis,"I'llstarttomorrow,"right?AndIkeptthinking,"Man,whatifI'dwalkedintothisandIhadn'tbeenatmymosthealthiest,"whateverthatisformeorforyou.BecauseIfind,forsomanypeople,theirhealthisholdingthembackanditseemssooverwhelmingthattheirbiggestthingis,"I'llstarttomorrow."Ortheyjustgiveup,theysayit'stheirgenesor,youknow,it'stheirageorwhatever.AndIthinkit'sreallyaboutbeingyourbestself,whateveritis,andcontinuing.Andthisismythroughlineformybusiness,isthatwereallyareourbestowndoctor,we'reourpersonalhealthdetective.Iwriteallofmybookstotakeyouthroughajourneytouncoverwhichfoodsworkforyouandwhichfoodsdon't,howmanycarbohydratesyoushouldhave,youknow,whattypeofexerciseyoushoulddo,becausethereisnosetformula.Andallofthesethings,weallhaveourownhealthchallenges.Mygosh,Iblewmykneeoutat17andIhadtohaveatotalkneereplacement.And,youknow,I'vegotHashimoto'sandwe'veallgotourthing.Everybody'sgottheirthing.That'swhatItellbothmykids,too,"Hey,we'reallgonnahavethose."AndIdon'tknowonepersonoutthereintheworldwhoisbetterbecauselifeiseasyanddoeswellbecauselifeiseasy.Sotheseareourownpersonalwake-upcallsthathelpusstepuptothechallengeandbebetterbecauseofit.Becausethat'showwegetbetter,right?OneofthethingsKaySmithusedtosayis,"Don'twishitwaseasier."Shesaid,"Makeyourselfbetter."Isay,"Makeyourselfstronger."And,youknow,hey,whatifthewake-upcallofhavingathyroidconditionmadeyoureallyfocusoneverythingthatyoucoulddoinyourhealthanditpreventedyoufromhavingheartdisease,orcancer,oranythingelse?Wedon'tknowwhatcouldhavebeenaroundthebend.Andalsolookatwhathavingathyroidconditionhasdoneforallofthepeopleouttherethatyouserve.Youknow,byyouthengoing,"Allright,thiscouldn'tberight.There'sgottobemoretoit,"andgoinganddigging,andfindingtheanswersoutthere.SoIlookatthesethingsandsay,"Everybody'sgotsomething,everybody."Idon'tknowsomeoneoutthere,andI'vecoachedtensofthousandsofpeoplenowandimpactedhundredsofthousandswiththesebooksandI'veyettomeetsomeonewhoseimperfecthealthdoesn'thaveanyissues,right?Itjustdoesn'thappen.Katie:Oh,yeah,absolutely.Evenathealthconferences,Ifeellikeweallgottherebecausewehadourownstruggles,andIalwayssaythatthejokeispeoplegointopsychiatrytotrytofixthemselves.AndIthinkalotofpeoplegointohealthandnutritionforthesamereason,tryingtofindouranswers.JJ:Exactly.Andthey'rethebestpractitioners,right?


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Katie:Exactly.AndIthinkthat'sthekey.Ilovethatyoutalkaboutthatbecauseit'seasy,Ithink,to,like,trytooutsourceyourhealthtoadoctorandtojusttaketheiropinion,likeyoumentioned,andrunwithitbecausethey'resupposedtoknowtheanswers.ButIthinkthekeyiswecan'toutsourceresponsibilityforourhealth.Wecanalwaysgetthoseopinionsandit'sgreattoconsultexperts.Butattheendoftheday,you'retheonewhohastotakeresponsibilityforthatevenifyoudisagreewiththedoctors.Ithinkthat'samazingthatyousaythat.JJ:Andasamom,wetakeresponsibilitiesforourkid'shealth,butalso,andIthinkit'sareallyimportantshift,isnotonlytostarttorealizefromanearlyage,"Hey,dotheresearchonvaccines,dotheresearchonwhattofeedyourkids."Like,youownthat.And,gosh,theinternet'smadeiteasierthaneveraslongasyouknowthesourcesyou'regettingitfrom.Butassoonaspossible,starttohandthatresponsibilityovertoyourkidstostarttoteachthemtostepup.Andtheymightmakesomemistakesalongtheway,butIrememberlettingmykidstaketheirHalloweencandyandIwaslike,"Goahead,havewhatyouwant."Minutetheydidit,likeBrycethrewup.AndGrant'slike,"Wow,I'meatingthisandit'sjustmakingmefeelsickandhungry."Andtheyweredone,right?Theyconnectedthedots,andtheywent,"Wow,thisdoesn'tmakemefeelgood."Solookathowyoucanhelpteachyourkidsandhaveyourkidsstarttotakeresponsibility,too,becauseiftheygetthatinanearlyage,man,isthatpowerful.Katie:Yeah,Itotallyagree.Ithinkalotoftimes,weunderestimatekids.Minearemuchyoungerthanyours.Myoldestisonly11,buthetypicallymakesreallygooddecisionswhenitcomestofood.Andit'snotbecauseI'm,like,controllinghisfoodinputwhenwe'reoutplaces,Ireallydolethimmakethedecision.Hejustknowsbecauseheunderstandswhatthosefoodsdotoyourbody.Ithinkthat'sagreatpoint.Soifamomis,kindof,intheearlierstagesofthis,orespeciallyhasyoungerchildrenandisjusttryingto,kindof,learnhowtoadvocateforherselfandforherchildren...Iknowthere'salotoffearalotofmomshavewith,like,especiallystandinguptoadoctororbeingabletofightlikethat.So,howcanpeoplestartchangingtheirmindsetandshiftingthatintheirownlives?JJ:Youknow,IloveandIjustre-watchSimonSinek,"StartWithWhy."AndIthinkyougetthestrengthfromthewhyandthepurpose,right?That'salwaysthebiggestplace.Andifyourstrength,yourpurpose,andyourwhyistohelpraisehappyhealthykids,thenyoustartwiththat,andthenyoualsorealize,goinarmed.LikewhenIgointoadoctor,likeeverymorning,thedoctorswillcomeintothehospitalanddograndrounds,well,I'dreachedoutandI'dgottenalotofinformation.IknewwhatwaspossibleandIknewwhatwasavailable,andIwasaskingquestions,andIwasn'tgoingtoacceptnoor,youknow,gettingbrushedoffbypeople,right,whichdidn'tmakethemnecessarilyhappy.Andthose,theykeptcominginforgrandroundsearlier,andIkeptgettingthereearlier.Iwaslike,"We'renotmissing."But,youknow,Ithinkgonearethosedayswherethedoctorknowsitall.There'sjusttoomuchtoknowatthispoint.Andifyoucomeinasaninformedconsumerwithverysmartquestionsandaskthequestions.Andifyoudon'tunderstandsomething,ask.BecausewhatIfindwith,youknow,whenIwasingradanddoctoralschool,Ifeltliketheywereteachingushowtotalkoverpeople.Like,mostofwhatwewerelearningwasjusthowtousebiggerwordsandI'mthinking,thebestpersonouttherehasamazingbedsidemannerscanexplaintoyouexactlywhat'sgoingonandhowtohelpyourself.LikeDr.DanielAmen,he'sagreatexampleofthis.He'soneofGrant'sdoctorsfrombeforetheaccident.AndheliterallysatdownwithhimafterwedidtheSPECTscans,explainedexactlywhattheymeant,exactlywhatheneededtodototakecareofhisbrain,right?Andhe'swillingtoworkwithotherpractitionersaswell.Andthat'sanotherkeything.Ifyougotosee


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someoneandtheirwayistheonlyway,andtheywon'tworkwithanybodyelse,andtheymakeyoufeellikeyoudon'tknowandthey'recondescending,firethem.Firethem,right?Lookathowmanydoctorsyouhadtodobeforeyoufoundtheawesome,magicaldoctor,AlanChristianson,whomadeyouknowyouweren'tcrazy.Katie:Yeah,exactly.JJ:So...Ithink,like,westoplisteningtoourselves.Yourgutknows.It'slikegoing,"Thiscouldn'tberight.Thatdoesn'tsoundright."Irememberearlyon,Ihadsuchbadskingrowingup,Katie.Itusedtodriveme...Imean,Iwassoself-conscious,mywholeteenyears,startingatage11.Ihadbadcysticacnemywholeteenyears.Anddoyouknowwewenttodermatologistafterdermatologist,andrepeatedly,theysaid,"Foodhasnothingtodowithit."Makesmesoupsettoknowbecause,youknow,Imean,IfixedmyacneonceIuncoveredthefoodintoleranceissuesandthewholethingwithdairy.Sugaralonewasn'tfixingit.Soyouhavetojustkeepquestioningandfindingthoserightdoctors.Katie:Yeah,absolutely.Andnotbeingafraidtofirethem,Ithinkthat'sthehardestshifttohave.Butthenonceyoudothat,youhavesomuchpowerbecauseyouareableto,like,lookatthemaswhattheyare,whichisaconsultantforyourhealth,whichisimportant.Butifthey'renotdoingthatjobthatyou'repayingthemtodo,you'repayingthem,nottheotherwayaround,thenfindsomeonewhowill.AndIseethisallthetimeasadoula,pregnantmoms,becauseit'slike,Iknowmomswhoadvocateforthemselvessomuch,andforsomereason,whentheygointolaborandthey'reinsuchavulnerabletime,itseemssomuchhardertostanduptothosedoctorsandtosay,"No."AndsoI'vehadto,like,encouragemomsthroughoutpregnancy,attimes,like,yougettochooseyourproviderandyoucansaynotothem.Like,don'tuselanguage,like,"Mydoctorwon'tletme."JJ:Yeah.Whatisthat?Like,whatareyoutalkingabout?"Mydoctorwon'tletme."You'renotinjail.Youknow,you'vegottofindthatpersonouttherewhoisapartnerinyourhealthwithyouandapartnerinyourkid'shealth.Andifyoubringinquestions,doesn'ttreatyoulikeyou'restupid,orthat'sridiculous,or,"Wheredidyoufindthat,"youknow,thatisoutthereforyou,thatit'sanopenforum.Katie:Yeah,absolutely.Andsoyoumentionedfoodintolerancesandhowthatwasakeyforyou.AndIwannadelveintothisbecauseIknowalotofmomsarewonderingaboutthatwiththeirkids.Andthere'salotofinformationoutthere,butalotofconfusionasfarashowdoyouactuallyidentifyfoodintolerancesandhowdoyouremedythem.Andthisisobviouslythetopicofalotofyourwriting.Solet'stalkaboutthat.Howdoyouencouragepeopletofindfoodintolerances?JJ:Yeah,itwasinteresting.Youknow,alotofthisstartedbackwhenGrantwasyoungbecauseatagefive,six,hestartedtohavesomebehavioralissues.AndIdidaloadoftestingandwepulledhimoffofglutenanddairy.Inretrospect,Iwouldneverhavebotheredwithanyofit.Iwouldhavepulledhimoffofgluten.HadIknownthenwhatIknownow,Iwouldneverhavehadmykidseatgluten,ordairy,orsoy.Theydidn'tdoanysoy,buttheydidglutenanddairy.AndIneverwouldhavehadthemhaveittobeginwith.ButIdidn'tknow.SoIpulledhimoffofitwhenthetestingcameoutthathehadissueswithit.IjustpersonallycomefromaplacewhereIthinkglutenisevil.WhatcanIsay?Ijustdon'tthinkit'sahealthfood.Ithinkit'simportanttotest,andI'dliketogothrough...TomO'Bryan'sgotthebestinformationonhowtotestforceliac.Ithinkit'simportanttolookandseeifyou'vegotageneticissuewithglutenintoleranceorceliac.ButIdon'tbelieveglutenisgoodforanyofusbecauseitmakesyourgutmorepermeable.And,you


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know,Iusedtothink,"Hey,foodintolerance,"whereyourgut'smorepermeableandyourbodylaunchesanimmuneattacktothefoodyou'reeating.Iusedtothinkthatwassomethingthatyoureallyhadtoworryaboutasyougotolder.Butit'snotthecaseanymorebecausethekeyfactorsforfoodintolerancearegluten,whichreleasessomethingcalledzonulinwhichmakesthegutmorepermeable.Stress,andwe'vegotkids...Imean,kidsshouldn'tbestressedout.Thisiscrazy.Theyshouldn'thavethedemandsonthemthatweputonthem.Iabsolutelyputmyfootdown,andIstarteddoingit,Katie,early.Whenmykidswereyoung,Iwasgoing,"Oh,mygosh,theyshouldbein,youknow,thekid'sgym,andtheyneedtobeintheartclass."Andlikeallofthesudden,Iwent,"WhyamIdoingthis?"Like,theyjustwannabehomeplayinganddigginginthedirt,andIdon'tneedtogohavethemin20classes.Ijustneedtohangoutwiththem.Butwe'vegotstressed-outkidseatingfructose,andartificialsweeteners,andGMOfoods,andglutenmessinguptheirgutandgettingfoodintolerances.SofirststepisIdon'tthinkanykidshouldhavegluten,andI'mnotafanofdairyeitherunlessyouknowthatyourkidisnotintoleranttoitandyou'regettinggrass-fed,unpasteurized,andfermentingit.Soifyoucangothatroute,great.Idothinkthatfoodsensitivitytesting,somethingcalledanIgG4.I'mnotafanofsomethingcalledanAlcat.Ifoundtoomanyfalsepositives.Butthere'ssomethingcalledanIgG4,anditcanbedoneasabloodspotorabloodtest,canbereallybeneficialforlookingforoutlierfoodsensitivities.ButinalltheyearsthatI'vedonealotoftesting,Inoticedthatthetopfoodssensitivitiesweredairyandeggs.Andthenthenextonesweresoy,andcorn,andpeanuts.Sothat'swherethosecameout.Andgluten'sadifferenttypeoftest.SowhatIfindtheeasiestthingtodoisjustpulloutgluten.Justmakeitnotapartofyourkid'sdietasmuchaspossible.Andbeawareofthisbecausethen,ifyougotooneofthoseschoolpartieswheretheyfeedthemtheworstcrapyou'veeverseen,Idon'tknow...areyourkidshomeschooled?Theyare,right?Katie:Theyare,yes.So,we,like,gettoavoidalotofthat.JJ:Youneverhadtotakethemto...IremembergoingtooneoftheseschoolpartiesandtheyhadBeanieWeenies.Ididn'tevenknowwhataBeanieWeeniewas,like,oraminiweenie,it'sliketheselittleweeniethingsin,like,sugarsauce.Andthentheyhadpunch,andthentheyhadjuice.Andthentheyhadcupcakes.Andthentheyhadlikethesefruitroll-upsnacks.Iwaslike,"Like,where'sthefood?"Youknow,it'stheabsolutemostgrossthing.Butthat'sthechallengewithschool,istheseparties.Soyoualwayshavetomakesureyoubringyourownandbeawareifyourkiddoeshaveoutrightceliacorglutenintolerancebecausethey'lleatalittlebitandfeelawful.Butideally,you'rekeepingtheglutenoutoftheirdietandyoucandoanIgGtesttocheckontheotherthings.Obviously,wedon'twantkidsonsoyeither,that's...it'snotgoodforanyone,butespeciallynotgoodforchildren.Getthemoffofsoy.Itcausesgirlstodevelopfast,andboysnottodevelop.Soyoudonotwanttheestrogeniceffectsofsoy.Youwannareallywatchthat.That'soneoftheissueswithalotofthemilks,too,especiallyintheplasticcartonssinceyou'regettingestrogeniceffectsfromthat.Soyou'resomuchbetterwhenyouunprocesstheirdiet,getouttheGMOs,obviously,andthatsolvesalotofthesefoodintolerancesinthefirstplace.Becauseifyouunprocesssomeone'sdiet,getoutthesoyandthegluten,andgetthesugarimpactdown,andtheartificialsweeteners,obviouslyout.Ican'tbelievetheyputartificialsweetenersinkids'supposedly...firstofall,thesekids'foods,that'sthebiggestpartoftheproblem,likekids'mealsatrestaurantsandkids'foods.Likewhoeverthoughtoftakingsomethingwhereyouputartificialcoloringsandartificialsugarsinsomething,putitintoalittlecutelittlepackageandcallitakid'sfood?Like,whatareyoutryingto


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do,poisonyourkids?Like,whywouldyoudothistoyourchild,youknow?

Andthenyouwonderwhytheyhavebehavioralproblemsatschool.Like,it'sjustinsane.I'llneverforgettheygavemykidapoundofM&MsbecausehewonsomeChristmaswrappingsalescontest.TheygivehimthepoundbagofM&Ms.Theygiveittohim.I'mnotthere.Whatdotheythinkhe'sgonnado?So,youknow,thentheycallmesayingyourson'sclimbingupthewalls.I'mlike,"Why?"Andtheytoldmewhatthey'ddone.I'mlike,"Youkeephim.Thatwearsoff,I'llcomegethim."But,yeah,soIthinkoneofthebiggestthingsthatwecandois,A,keepthesefoodsoutoftheirdiet,andagain,glutenbeingtheworstculprit,andsoyobviouslyjustasaproblematicfood.AndthenIwoulddotestingforceliacandglutenintolerancesoyou'reawareifthere'sgonnabeanissue,ifitdoessneakinwhenthey'reout.AndthenyoucandoIgG4testingfortheotheronesjusttoseeifthere'sanyissues.Butthechallengeisfoodintolerancecandevelopatanytimeduetoaleakygutwhichcanhappenduetostress,andgluten,andfructose,anddifferenttypesofpainmedications.Andtheotherthingtobeawareofisifyouhaveusedanyantibiotics,youbasicallyhavescorchedearth,thegutmicrobiome,andthattakesmonthstorebuild.Andsoyou'regonnaalsowannalookatkeepingyourchildonagoodprobioticaswell.Katie:Yeah,that'sagreatpoint.AndIlovethatin"TheVirginDiet"youhave,becauseforsomeoneonareallytightbudget,ifthetestingisn'tdoable,youhaveawaytojustremovethosefoodsandgaugereactionandtestitforfree,likejustchangeyourdietforanamountoftime.SoIlovethat.Ithinkthat'ssuperpractical.

Thispodcastisbroughttoyoubymyobuddy.Thisthingisoneofmydailygo-to’sforrelaxationbecauseitcombinesthebenefitsofinfraredheat,percussivemassageandvibrationaltherapyforwhatIcanonlydescribeasamixtureofdeeptissuemassageandmyofascialreleaseallinonedevice.IthasreallyreducedmymuscletensionandmyneedformassageandmanypeoplewithconditionslikeMS,chronicfatigue,etcareusingthisformusclerelief.Also,manyathletesuseitforfasterrecovery.Ipersonallyfindthebiggestbenefitforrelaxationandforfasciawork,butyoucantryitoutatwellnessmama.com/go/myobuddyandmakesuretochecktheshownotesforaspecialdiscount.

ThisepisodeisbroughtyoutobyJoovvredlighttherapy,whichhasbecomeanintegralpartofmydailyroutineandhere’swhy.JoovvhasredlightswithspecificwavelengthsofredlightthatincreaseATP,whichisAdenosineTriphosphateProduction,inthebodybysupportingthemitochondria.NowsinceATPisresponsiblefornotjustyourenergythatyoufeel,butprettymucheverythingthathappensinyourbody,thisisabigdeal.Thistherapyisalsoknownasphotobiomodulationandithaswelldocumentedbenefitsforskinhealth,forenergylevels,forrecoveryafterinjuryorsurgery,forimprovingthyroidhealth(whichiswhatI’musingitfor),andevenasananti-agingdevicebecauseitincreasescollagenproductionandhairgrowthandreduceshairloss.Solotsofcoolbenefits.Youcancheckitout,theonethatIuse,atwellnessmama.com/go/joovv.Youcanalsocheckouttheshownotesformoreinformation.

Katie:ButIknowthatI'mgonnagetobjections,becauseIdoeverytimeItalkaboutglutenbeingbadandsugarbeingbad,frompeople,going,"No,everythinginmoderation,likethisisnotbalanced.Thisisnothealthy.You'recreatingallthesebadmindsetsinyourkidsbynotlettingthemhavethesefoods."AndIthink


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youansweredthisquestionperfectly.So,whatdoyousaytothepeoplewhosay,"No,everythinginmoderation?"JJ:Wouldyousaythataboutmercury,andwouldyousaythataboutarsenic,andwouldyousaythataboutlead?Like,becausethat'showwehavetolookatglutenandsugar.Sugarisournumberonerecreationaldrugofchoice.Now,here'swhatIdid,though,withmykidsgrowingup,becauseIdidn'tpullfoods...like,wedidn'thave,youknow,sugarfoodsandglutenfoodsinthehouse.Buttheywouldgettheoccasionalgoout,andiftheywereataparty,theycouldhavepizza.Youknow,theyhadthosethings,andtheywerearound,buttheyweren'tmainstaysofourdietathome.Andthat'sreallythedifference.Like,whentheywenttograndma'shouse,theyhadcerealmilk,whichtheywerelike,"Wow."Youknow,I'mlike,"Thanks,mom."Butathome,thatjustwasn'twhattheyhadforbreakfast.Andsowhenyouteachyourkids,andhere'swhatsupercool,exposureequalspreference.Whenyouteachthemtoeatthegoodstufffirst,theotherstuff,whentheydoeatit,they'llnoticethattheyfeelawful.Kidsdon'twannafeelbad,youknow,thattheirtummyhurtsandthattheyjustdon'tlikeittoomuch.Ittastessweet.Sothat'swhatIdid,wasIjustkeptthegoodstuffinthehouseandIdidn'tsaytheycouldn'thavetheotherstuff.WithGrant,Ihadto,becausewepulledoutglutenanddairy.ButwithBryce,wedidn't.Andlateron,inyears,wefoundout,youknow,thatGrant,littlebitshereandthereweren'tthrowinghimoff.Now,theydoagain.Hehasnogluten.He'stotallyconnectedthedotsanddoesn'teatit,knowswhatitdoes.ButIthinkifyouteachkidstoeathealthyfirstandtheniftheyareataparty,aslongasyouknowthattheyaren'tgluten-intolerant,theycanhavelittlebitsofit,it'sgonnabeokay.It'snotthebirthdaycakeonceinawhilethatcreatestheproblems.It'stheeverydaydessert.IwasraisedonPop-TartsorCap'nCrunchinthemorninganddesserteverynightfordinner.That'swhatcreatestheproblem.Thosehabits,ifyouteachthemthattheseoccasionaltreatsaresomethingthatyoucanhavewhenyou'reoutataparty,that'sdifferent.Butagain,you'vegottomakesurethattheydon'thaveageneticissuewithglutenintoleranceorceliacbecauseiftheydo,that'slikesaying,"Well,Icanjustswallowalittlebitofthispoison."Itistoxic,andit'sapoisontothem,andit'shurtful.Andthat'swhatI'dalsotellyou,iswithalotofthesefoods,it'snotaneverythinginmoderation,becauseagain,it'sbasicallyapoisontothesystem.Imean,lookatartificialsweeteners.Insevendays,theydidastudy,sevendays,you'vedisruptedthegutmicrobiomeenoughtocreateglucoseintolerancethatcanleadtodiabetes.Sevendays.Sowe'vegottolookatthesethingsaswhattheyare,they'retoxicandthey'repoisons.Andthenyoureframeit.Becausenomom'sgonnasay,"Oh,Ijustgavemykidalittlearsenic.It'sokay,everythinginmoderation."Katie:Yeah,Ithinkthat'ssokey.Andalso,like,realizing,glutenisnotafoodgroupandsugarisnotafoodgroup,youcangethelphealthycarbohydratesfromothersources.JJ:Yeah,whatdeficiency...Igotattacked,Katie,itwassofunny,whenIwasdoingthis.Igotslammedandunfortunately,Ireacted.Andthenallmyfriendswerelike,"Youshouldn'treactonTwitter.Now,you'rejustsendingiteverywhere."ButthisnutritionistattackedmeonTwitter,sayingIwascreatingdeficienciesbytellingpeopletopulloutofgluten.AndI'mlike,"Well,whatdeficiencyisitthatI'mcreating?BecauseI'mtotallyconfused."Ourbodydoesnotneedgluten,andourbodydoesnotneedsugar.Thesearen'tthingsthatwecreatenutrientdeficienciesfrom.Theyaren'tpartofawell-roundeddiet.Ifyouteachakidtoeatawell-roundeddiet...andIhadpickyeaters,soithadtobemoreliketheywouldeatchicken,theywouldeatsteak,theywouldeatsalmon,they'deatbroccoli,romaine,lettuce,carrots,andtheywouldeatberries,youknow.


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So,youknow,theywerepicky.Buttherearesomanydifferentthingsthatyoucandonowwithoutgluten,andsugar,andsoy.There'stonsofoptionsoutthere.Andifyouteachthemtonotgo...like,youlookatallthekids'foods,they'resosugar-sweetened,you'retrainingthem,you'rewakinguptheirtastebudsandtrainingthemtothriveonsugar,andyoudon'twanttocreateasugarburnerwithyourkids.Imean,gosh,oneinfivekidsareobese.Kidsshouldn'tbeobese.WhenIwasgrowingup,therewasonekidinthewholeclasswhowasoverweight,notobese.Youknow,70%oftheadultsarenowoverweightorobese,40%obese.Ifyou'reanobesekid,yourriskofbeinganobeseadultis70%.Andyouknowwhat?Sugarisatthecoreofthat.Thebiggestthingyoucandotoimpactyourkids'healthislowertheirsugarimpact.Teachthemtoappreciatesavory,spicy,andthenaturalsweetnessoffruitbutnottooverdofruit.It'snotfreefood.That'syourroleasaparent.Imean,don'tpoisonyourkids.AndIdonotbelievethat,youknow,everythinginmoderationwithalittlebitofsugareveryday.Again,birthdayparty,alittlepieceofcakehereandthere,notgonnabeabigissue.Butalso,theyaren'tgonnareallylikeitthatmuchwhentheyhaven'tbeeneatingit.Tastestoosweet,Nikki.Katie:Right.AndIbetyourboysareprobablyreallygoodeatersnow,andnotsopickybecausethey'venowhadalifetimeofexposuretoallthesehealthyfoods.JJ:Andyouknowwhat?Inevernaggedthemgrowingup.Again,iftheyweresomewhere,theycouldhavethething,buttheydidn'tgocrazyonitbecause,firstofall,kidsactuallygetfullasopposedtoadultswhoarelike,"Sure,we'llhavethedessert."Buttheyreallylearnedhowtoeatthegoodstufffirst.Andmyoneson's...BryceisoffatcollegeandheordershisfoodfromAmazonFreshwhichiscoolbecauseIcouldactuallyseewhathe'sordering.Andheordersgrass-fedbeefandpasturedchickenand,youknow,allsortsofvegetablesandquinoa,andit'ssupercooltoseethatthisiswhathe'schoosingtodo.He'sactuallythefoodeditoroveratJJVirginbecausehewritesrecipesandmakesallsortsofamazingdeliciousstuff.AndGrantisreallycarefulaboutwhatheeatsbecausehetotallynoticesadifferencewithhisbrain.Imean,IwasreallyproudofhimbecauseIthoughthewasstayingoffofgluten,butheletssomesneakbackin,andallofasudden,hegoes,"EverytimeIeatgluten,Igetmadforthenext30minutes.Mywholemoodgoesdown."Andsohejust,hewon'teatout.He'sreallycarefulaboutit.Katie:Wow,that'sawesome.AndIthinkthat'sagoodpoint.Ifyouwannafindthebalanceasamom,it'slikewhen...yourhouse,youcontrolthat,likewhatfoodsyou'regonnaallowinyourhouseandwhichfoodsyouaren't.AndIwouldsayasamom,wehavearesponsibilitytoprovidereallynutrient-densefoodsforourkids.Andifyouwannahavethat,like,leewayorthebalance,letthatbeoutsideofyourhouse,butinyourhouse,youhavethecontrolofwhatfoodthey'regonnaconsume.Andyouhaveanobligationtothemtogetthemenoughnutrients.AndsoIthinkthat'sagreatpoint.YoumentionedthatsugarisarecreationaldrugofchoiceandIwouldloveforyoutogoalittledeeperonthisbecauseIthinkalotofpeoplearelike,"Yeah,whatever,sugarisbad."Theydon'treallybuyit.So,whyissugarsobad?JJ:Istolethatlinefromourbuddy,Dr.MarkHyman,whenhesaidthatI'mlike,"Thatissogood."You'vegottolookatwhatthesefoodsdo.Andbytheway,sugardoesthis,oh,dairyglutendo,too.Theyhaveanopiate-likeeffectonthebrain.Butit'sinteresting,theydidastudywithratswheretheygavethemmorphineandthentheygavethemOreocookies.Andtheygavethemthechoicebetweenwhichoneofthesethattheyhavebecausetheybothlitupthesamepleasurecenterinthebrain.Theyweretestingthat.Andtheyactually


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startedtochoosetheOreocookiesoverthemorphinefortheeffectonthepleasurecenterinthebrain.Sugarlightsupourbrain.Itisabsolutelyaddictive.And,youknow,themoreyoueat,themoreyouwant.Andthechallengeis,it'snotonlyaddictiveonthebrain,italsochangesyourmetabolismsothatyourbodystartstorelyonthesugarforenergyandcan'taccessstoredfatforfuel.Soyougettotallydependentonit.And,youknow,someofusaregeneticsweettastersandhaveasweettooth,andthemorethatweeat,themorethatwewant.Andweactuallystarttodullourtaste.Like,wecan'teventasteasmuch,soweneedmore,andmore,andmore.Sothat'swhyIsayit'ssoimportantearlyon.Like,Ilookatalotofthekids'foodproductandtheyhavesomuchsugarinthem.Imean,thesecereals...andthisiswhatmakesmesoupset,thesecerealsthathavetheAmericanHeartAssociationstampofapprovalonthemorthefoodsouttherethatwillsay"Nosugaradded,"buttheyuseapplejuiceconcentrate,whichbytheway,ishigherinfructosethanhighfructosecornsyrup,andtheycansay,"Nosugaraddedonthem."We'vegotsugareverywhereandit'sbasicallymakingourkids,again,it'sdisruptingtheirmetabolismbymakingthemmoreinsulin-resistantwhichmakesthemforcedtorelyontheirnexthitofsugarforenergy.And,youknow,it'screatingearlydiabetesandfattyliver.Imean,wehavefattyliverinkidsnow.Butthenalso,it'sgivingyourbrainahit.It'sdrivingserotoninup.Andthentheminutethatyourbloodsugarcomesdown,itstartstocomedown,andyouneedanotherhitagain,soyourbrainandyourbodybecomedependentonit.Soitmightfeelgoodinthemoment,butitreallyisdevastatingtoourbodyandourhealth,andwebecomedependentonit.It'sperfectforthefoodindustry.It'swhyit'sbeingusedallovertheplace.Andyoujustlookatthelast30yearswhenwegotthiswrongmessagefromBruceAmesthatfatwascreatingheartdisease.Theypulledfatout.Theyputsugarin.Andlookwhat'shappenedoverthelast30years.Andthentheythought,"Well,we'llpullthesugarout,we'llputtheartificialsweetenersin,"whichareactuallyworsethansugarbecauseofwhattheydotodisruptthegutmicrobiome.Andsoweknownowthisdoesn'twork.Itissoclearthisdoesn'twork.Butnow,wehaveanationofaddicts.Imean,ifyoulookedatthisandyoulookatwhatsugardoes,it'sattherootofallthemajordiseases,heartdisease,cancer.Itfeedscancer,diabetes,dementia,osteoporosis.Ifyoulookatallthosethingsandyouhadanytypeofmedicationthatwascreatingtheseproblems,you'dpulloutinasecond,right?Imean,ifyouknewtherewasadrugthatwascreatingtheseproblems,noonewouldevergivepeoplethatdrug.Butyetwe'regivingkidsmilk,andcookies,andapplejuice.Applejuice,applejuicehasmorehighfructosecornsyrupinitthanacoke.Youknow,we'regivingkidsjuice.Weshouldnotgivekidsjuice.Weshouldgivekidsapieceoffruitandaglassofwater.Katie:Yeah,Iagree.Sowhatifsomeoneis,like,aself-identifiedsugaraddictandtheydefinitelyhaveasweettoothandit'saregularpartoftheirlife.Howdoyoubreakthat?Becauseifit'sanaddictionlike,howcanyoubreakthatcycle?JJ:Yes.SoitwasinterestingwhenIwrote"TheVirginDiet,"Igeneticallydonothaveasweettooth.Iwasraisedbyanadoptedmomwho'sgotamassivesweettooth.Andthat'showIwasraisedandallthosethings.AndIbasicallystartedbringingmyselfoffsugarinmyteens.Butsadlyenough,IthoughtIwasbringingmyselfoffsugarbutIjusttradedonesugarforanother.IwaseatingfrozenyogurtandIwaseatingblacklicorice.IthoughtIwasdoingbetter,youknow,becauseIhadthehoneyinsteadofthe...anditwasridiculous,Iwasn't.


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Soittookyearstoreallyunderstandthis.AndwhenIwrote"TheVirginDiet,"thebiggestquestionIgotaskedwasaboutsugar.AndInoticedpeople,thereweretwocampsandalotofpeoplefellintoboth,unfortunately,astheywereconfused,like,"Well,isn'thoneyokay?It'sallnatural,right?"I'mlike,"Well,arsenicisnatural,soismercury,doesn'tmakeithealthy."Ortheywerelike,"Well,artificialsweeteners,theydon'thaveanycalories,thatmustbeokay."Ortheywerejustcontrolledbyit.Theycouldn'tquititnomatterhowhardtheytried.AndIreallysetouttoclearuptheconfusionbutalsobreakthataddictivecycle.AndIwasconvincedthatIcouldtakesomeoneandhelpthemmovefrombeingasugarburnertoafatburnerbutalsogetridoftheirsweettoothinamatterofweeks.AndIknewthattheproblemthatwehad.Andhere'swhatyouneverwannadowhenyou'retryingtofixthis,isgocoldturkey.Becauseifyou'vetrainedyourbodyandyourbraintorelyonsugarandyoujustpullitout,youwillcrashsofastandyou'llgoracingbackforthecookies.Andforalotofpeople,theyactuallydon'tevenrealizehowmuchsugar'ssneakingin.Theydon'trealizethatthesaladtheyjusthadwiththedriedfruitandthe,youknow,thecandiedwalnutsandtheraspberryvinaigrettewasasundae.Theydidn'trealizethatthatlatteandthehealthymorningmuffinwasjust,youknow,loadedwithsugar.Theydidn'trealizethemarinarasaucehadasmuchsugaraslike,youknow,sixOreocookies.Youdon'trealizewhereit'ssneakingin.That'scrazy.SothefirstthingIhelppeopledoisrealizewhereit'ssneakingin.Thisisallsugarimpactdiet.AndthenIcreatedanewframeworkforlookingatsugarthatreallylooksattheimpactofit.Soinsteadoflookingatglycemicindex,whichcansetusuptofailbecauseallitlooksatisameasuredresponseof50gramsofacarbohydrateandyourbloodsugarresponsetoit,whichnoonereallyeatsthatway.Youmighteatthatwayifyou'reeatingabunchofpotatochips.Butitcertainlyisn'tifyou'resittingdowntoeatbroccoli.Soit'sareallyweirdwaytolookatfood.Anditalsodoesn'ttakefructoseintoaccountbecausefructosedoesn'traisebloodsugar.Instead,fructosegoesstraighttotheliverandifitcan'tbeturnedintoenergythere,itstartsbeingturnedintofatwhichiswhatit'smostlikelyfateis.Andwhileit'sdoingthat,it'salsomadethegutmorepermeableonitsjourney.Anditalsodidn'traiseanyofyourbloodsugarsoyou'restillhungry,yourbodydoesn'trealizeyouateanything.SoIwantedtomakesurethatthisnewframeworklookedathowmuchyourbloodsugarandinsulinincreasedbecauseyou'llseesomethingliketheartificialsweetenersimpactinginsulinandyou'llseesomethingincreasingyourbloodsugar.Butyoudidn'teata50-gramdoseofit,youputintothemixtureofameal.AndthenIalsowannaseefructoseandIwantedtocontrastthatwithfiberandnutrientdensity.It'sthedifferencebetweenhavingaglassoforangejuiceversushavinganorange,you'regettingthefiber,you'regetting,ofcourse,allthenutrientdensity.ButIwouldn'thavesomeonedrinkorangejuicebecauseyoujustpulledthefiberoutandjustgotthisbighit.SoIcreatedanewframework.Iwentthroughandhelpyouidentifywhereallthesugar'ssneakingin,thingslikethemarinarasauceandthelightsaladdressings,alltheplaceswe'dneverexpect.Andthen,andthisiswhat'ssokey,Icreatedataperingsystemsothatwegofromhigh-sugar-impactfoodstomedium-sugar-impactfoodstolow-sugar-impactfoodsandwetaperoverthecourseofonetotwoweeksbasedonhowsomeonelandsonthesugarimpactquiz.SoIalwayshavepeople,andeverythingthatIdoIfeltyouself-identifyfromthebeginning.We'vegottoknowourstartingpoint,andthatreallyisbasedonsymptoms.AndthenIhaveyoutaperdown.Andthenyougothroughatwo-weekperiod,andthisissopowerful,whereyoupullofffructoseoutofthediet,becausefructose,thereasonwe'reusingitsomuchinsweetenersisit'ssupersweet.Andbecauseit'ssupersweet,themoreofityoueat,themoreyouwant.Butalsothemorefructose


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youeat,thebetteryourbodygetsatgettingfructosestraighttotheliverandturningitintofat.Butyoucanturnthataroundquicklywhichiswhatthesecondcycleofthisprogramdoes,isithelpspeoplequicklygetpooratprocessingfructosesothey'renotasgoodatmakingfat.Andthenyougobackattheendofthatperiodandyoure-challengetoseehowyou'redoing.Like,howdoesthatsweettoothfoodtasteandwhatdoesitdotoyourbody.Youconnectthedotsbetweenwhatyou'reeating,andhowyoufeel,andalsoyourweight.Andthathelpsyouthendetermine,becauseoneofthebigquestionsIgetaskedis,"HowmanycarbohydratesIshouldeat?"AndIgo,"Well,itreallydependsonthequalityofcarbohydrates."Thiswholeideaofsimpleandcomplexcarbohydratesissilly.Soinstead,Icreatedthesugarimpactscalesoyoucouldreallydeterminewhere'squality,low-sugarimpactfoodsorhigh-qualitycarbohydrates.Andthenyoucanfigureouthowmanydoyoureallyneedtoeatinaday.Shouldyoubeketo?Shouldyoubehighercarb?Becauseit'sdifferentforeverybody.Andsomepeoplecanthriveonketo.Ifindmostwomensuckonketo.It'sdifficultifyou'vegotthyroidconditions,adrenalproblems,andfertilityissues.Thisisnotwhereyoushouldbe.Soitreallyhelpsyoudeterminewhereyoushouldbeandwhereyourkidscouldbe.Butifyouhavesomeonewithabraininjury,they'lldobetterthere.So,youknow,that'swhereIreallysetout,thatthebigdifferencewiththisprogramisthisconceptofdon'ttrytogocoldturkey.Youwillsetyourselfuptofail.You'vegottotaperthisdownandmakethattransitiontohelpyourbodyshiftfrombeingasugarburnerintoafatburner.Andonceyoudothat,it'slikeyoujustgotsetfree.Katie:Yeah,Icansaythatfromexperience.AndIthinkwhatperfectlyillustratesthispoint,andI'dloveforthistobewherewestarttowrapup,isyouarefamousforsaying,"Yourbodyisnotabankaccount.It'sachemistrylab."BecauseIthinkalotofpeoplestillbuyintotheideaoflikecaloriesin,caloriesout,andthatkindofmethodofeating.AndIwillsay,like,havingbeentoyourevents,Iknowthatyou,like,walkinyourreallifeandyouservethesethingsatyourevents,butyouembodythiswayofeatingandthiswayofhealthyfood.Andalsoyoumaintainanincredibleleveloffitnessallthetime.SoI'dsayyou'reverywellqualifiedtospeaktothis.Butcanyouexplainwhatyoumeanbythatstatement,"Yourbody'snotabankaccount.It'sachemistrylab,"andhowthatapplies,especially,like,tothefoodthingsthatwe'vebeentalkingabout,withthesugar,andthegluten,andthedairy?JJ:Youknowwhat'ssocool,isnow,Idon'tsoundcrazysayingit.Because25yearsago,Iwasatrainer,youknow,Itoldthatstoryearlier,andIwasingradschool,andguesswhatweweretaughtingradschool?Ifyouwantedtoloseweight,youwouldeatless,exercisemore.AndIhadallofthese...mymajorityofclientswere45-year-oldwomenand55-year-oldmen.AndwhenIhadthemeatlessandexercisemore,especiallythewomen,itdidn'twork.Infact,someofthemgotworse.AndIkeptthinkingtomyself.First,Ithought,"Theymustbecheating,"right?That'sthefirstthought,Iwilladmit.AndthegoodnewsisIgottotakeagroupofthemtoaresort.AndItookthemthereandIgottocontroltheirfoodandtheirexercise.AndwhatInoticedwassomelostweight,somestayedthesame,andsomegained.Andtherewasnowaytheywerecheating.So,therefore,Ihadtolookforanewhypothesis.AndIthought,"Whatifwhatwe'rebeingtaughtisallwrong?"BecausetherewasnothingIwasbeingtaughtinschoolthatIthoughtwerestupidandwrong.Youknow,soIwaslike,"Whatifthisonewaswrong,too?"BecauseIknewasatrainer,ifImadepeopleworse,theyweren'tgonnahiremeagain.Andthat'swhenIstartedreallystudyingdiet.AndIknewthatourphysiologyhadn'tchangedinthelast20to50years,butourapproachtoeatinghadchangeddramatically.AndIwasrightinthatphasewhereeveryonewascuttingfat,andwatchingcalories,andbecominginsulin-


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resistant.Wejustdidn'tunderstandityet.Butthat'swhatIstartedtofindinalltheliterature,washow,youknow,thebiochemistryofallofthisandeventhebiochemistryofexercisewhichwasn'tbeingtaught.It'swhenIswitchedfromhavingpeopledolong,slow-distancetrainingtohigh-intenseintervaltrainingandweighttraining.AndpeoplethoughtIwascrazybackthen.BecauseIwaslike,youknow,"Stopallthatcardio,justgoliftweights."Youknow,"Stopfocusingoneatingsixtimesadaywhichiswhatweweretaughttodo,eatthreetimesaday.Giveyourselfagood12-hourovernightfast."Anditwasinterestingbecause,youknow,Iwasliterallybeingtoldbydoctors,"Itdoesn'tmatterwhattheyeat,it'sjusttheamountofcalories."I'mgoing,"I'mwatchingthesepeopleandthey'reeatingmorefoodandthey'relosingweight.They'reworkingoutless."Imean,backwhenIwasfirstdoingthis,Iusedtoworkouttwohoursaday.Now,Iworkoutmaybe30minutesaday,fivedaysaweek,andIeatmore.AndbackwhenIwasdoingthis,Iwaseatingalow-fatvegetariandietwithlotsofcardioandIwas22%to25%bodyfat.Nowat54,I'm15%bodyfat,youknow,working30minutesaday,andbeingsupercleanwithmyeating.Butit's,basically,Ieatprotein,fat,andlotsofnon-starchyvegetables,littleslowlowcarbs.Imean,Ieatahigh-fat,optimalprotein,loadsoffiberdiet.It'ssimple.I'mnothungry.Ineverworryaboutmyweight.Allofit'sanon-issuenow,youknow.AndthisiswhatIteachpeopletodoanditjustmakesitsimple.ButwhenIfirststarttalkingaboutitandsaid,"Youknow,it'snotaboutthecalories,it'saboutwheretheycomefrom,"youwould'vethoughtIwassaying,"Youknow,theearthisflat."Imean,peoplethoughtIwasabsolutelyinsane.Now,25yearslater,it'skindofacceptedknowledgeandwegetthatbutwereallyneedtolookatfoodasinformation.Youreallyneedtoconsiderthateverythingyou'reeatingistellingyourbodysomething.Youwannamakesurethatyourfoodistellingyourbodytobalanceyourbloodsugar,whichiseverything,balancedbloodsugariseverythingtoloweryourinflammationtohavegreatenergy,tohavebetterfocus,andtoburnoffstoredbodyfat.Andthatisallaboutwhatyou'reeatingandwhenyou'reeatingit.Thatmakesallthedifference.Katie:Yeah,itmakessomuchsense.AndIfeellike,especiallyforkids,ifthefoodwe'reeatingissendingmessagestoourbody,andespeciallylikethebloodsugarconnectionwithmykids,I'venoticed,like,thatchangestheirbehaviordrastically.AndIseethisinothermomswhochangetheirdiets.AndI'mlike,"Howcanyou,tosomedegree,like,don'tstacktheoddsagainstthem?"Like,ifyouwantthemtobehaveandtodoallthesethingsyouwantthemtodo,don'tstacktheoddsagainstthemandmakeitsohardforthem.JJ:Exactly.IfyougiveyourkidlikeGoldfishorSkittlesforasnack,andthenyou'remadatthemforbeingabrat,youknow,shameonyou,right?Imean,there'snoway,ifyougavemeSkittlesforasnack,I'dbeabrat,youknow.Katie:Yeah,exactly.JJ:Right?Imean,hey,that'spartofthereasonI'mreallycarefulaboutthefoodwefeedattheconferencesbecauseIwantpeopletohavegreatenergyalldaylongandnotcrashandburn.Youlookatmosttheseconferences,andintheafternoon,peoplearejustdone.Andit'sbecausetheyjusthadthemostridiculouscrappylunch.Youknow,it'sjustlike"boof,"they'reout.So,yes.Thebestpartaboutallthisstuffiswhenyoudothisforyourkids,itmakesyourjobaswarriormomsomucheasier.It'ssomucheasier.And,onefinalthing,Katie,Iknowthatoneofthereasonsthatmysonwasabletosurvivetheunsurvivable,hewasliterallydeadonthepavement,waswehadhimonfishoil.Andwehadhim


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onfishoilbeforetheaccidenthappenedwhichprotectsyourbrains.Youneverknowwhenyourkid'sgonnahittheirhead.Andweallhitourheads,andyouhityourhead,youhurtyourbrain.Aconcussionisatraumaticbraininjury.Andoneoftheeasiestwaystoprotectyourbrainisfishoil.So,especiallyifyoucan'tgetyourkidstoeatfish,makesurethatthey'retakingfishoil.Andthere'slotsofyummydifferentchoicesouttherenowlikelittle,yummyfishpuddings,Idoalemondropssmoothieone.So,there'sgreatchoicesbutthat'ssuperimportantalongwiththeeatingthebloodsugar-balanceddiet.Katie:Yeah,Ilovethat.Andwemakesardinesaregularlunchoptionatourhouse,too,justforthefood-basedperson.JJ:Okay.Now,you'reshowingoff.Now,youjustwentintoStarMomcategory.Andoneotherthingthatcanhelp,too,is,inthissugarimpactdiet,wehavetheseamazingscales.Icanmakethisavailabletoeverybodythroughyourpodcastlink.Andwehavetheseincrediblescalesandyoucanjustseewhat'shigh-sugarimpact,what'smedium,what'slow.Juststarttofocusonfeedingyourkidsmorelow-sugar-impactfoodsandyou'llhelpchangetheirpreferences.Remember,exposureequalspreference.Katie:Yeah,Ilovethat.Anddefinitely,thoselinkswillbeintheshownotessoeverybodycanfindit.Butalsoletpeopleknowwheretofindyouonline.Iknowyouhaveapodcast,youhaveawebsite,youareeverywhereonline.Wheredoyouwantpeopletofindyoufirst?JJ:Probablyeasiestistogotomywebsiteatjjvirgin.com.Andthenyoucanjumpoffintomysocialmediasitesandmypodcast,whichIhopewehaveyourpodcastdateset.Katie:Ithinkwedo.I'llmakesurewefollowuponthat.JJ:Makesurewedo.Okay.Katie:Awesome.Well,again,allthosethingswillbeintheshownotesatwellnessmama.fmifyou'relisteningandcan'twriteitdown.DefinitelyencourageyoutofindJJandfollowherbecauseherworkisveryresearch-backedandveryeasytoimplementwithkidseven,andIthinkyou'redoingamazingwork,JJ.Thanksforbeinghere.JJ:Thankyou.Iappreciateyou.Katie:Andthankstoallofyouforlistening.I'llseeyounexttimeon"TheHealthyMomsPodcast."

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