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www.gloomboomdoom.com Dr Marc Faber 2012 Presentation for the London Bullion Market Association 11.00am, Monday, November 12, 2012 At the Grand Hyatt Hotel HONG KONG Marc Faber Limited Suite 801, The Workstation, 43 Lyndhurst Terrace Central, Hong Kong Tel: (852) 2801-5411 Fax: (852) 2845-9192 Email: [email protected] Deflationary Bust or Government Profligacy and Money Printing “Our analysis leads us to believe that recovery is sound only if it does come of itself. For any revival which is merely due to artificial stimulus leaves part of the work of the depressions undone and adds, to an undigested remnant of maladjustments, new maladjustments of i ts own.  Joseph Schumpet er “There are two ways to conque r and enslave a nat ion. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.  John Adams

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Dr Marc Faber 2012

Presentation for the London Bullion Market Association

11.00am, Monday, November 12, 2012

At the Grand Hyatt Hotel

HONG KONG

Marc Faber Limited

Suite 801, The Workstation, 43 Lyndhurst Terrace

Central, Hong Kong

Tel: (852) 2801-5411

Fax: (852) 2845-9192

Email:  [email protected]

Deflationary Bust or Government Profligacy and Money Printing

“Our analysis leads us to believe that recovery is sound only if it does come

of itself. For any revival which is merely due to artificial stimulus leaves part

of the work of the depressions undone and adds, to an undigested remnant of 

maladjustments, new maladjustments of its own.” 

Joseph Schumpeter

“There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword.

The other is by debt.” 

John Adams

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FED FUND RATE & CRISES, 1960 - 2012 

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"If it were possible to take interest rates into negative territory I would be voting

for that.” 

Janet Yellen

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FOR HOW LONG WILL REAL INTEREST RATES

STAY NEGATIVE?

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Source: Ron Griess, www.thechartstore.com 

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LONG TERM US INTEREST RATES, 1790 - 2012

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Source: N/A

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Since 1790, the average interest rate on US Long-Term Treasuries has been 5%!

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TOTAL CREDIT MARKET DEBT AS PERCENTAGE OF

US GDP, 1921 – 2010

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Source: Ned Davis Research

“There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The

other is by debt.” John Adams

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IS A DEFLATIONARY COLLAPSE POSSIBLE? 

Source: The Bank Credit Analyst, Barry Bannister, Stifel Nicolaus

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“The overall level of debt makes no difference … one person’s liability is another

person’s asset.” Paul Krugman

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PRIVATE SECTOR CREDIT GROWTH EXPANDING

AGAIN 

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Source: Ed Yardeni, www.yardeni.com

“The grand fight between central bank debt monetization and the natural order of 

economic cleansing is about to enter a deeper, darker circle of hell.”

Bill King, The King Report (July 2012)

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OFFICIAL US FISCAL DEFICIT AND CALCULATED

ACCORDING TO STANDARD ACCOUNTING RULES

(IN $ TRILLIONS) 

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Source: USA TODAY Research, Congressional Budget Office

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THE UNLIKELY FISCAL CLIFF: SIZE OF FEDERAL TAX

INCREASES, 1968 – 2012

Source: Strategas Research Partners, www.chartoftheday.com

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FEDERAL SPENDING AND INCOME AS A PERCENTAGE

OF GDP

Source: www.usgovernmentspending.com, www.theliscioreport.com

“We all know what to do, we just don't know how to get re-elected after we have done it.”

Jean- Claude Junker (Prime Minister Luxembourg)

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Source: Dan Mitchell, International Liberty

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FEDERAL SPENDING AS SHARE OF GDP:

CANADA AND US, 1965 - 2012

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PERCENTAGE OF US POPULATION LIVING IN A

HOUSEHOLD RECEIVING

SOME GOVERNMENT BENEFIT, 1983 - 2012

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Source: US Census Bureau, The Wall Street Journal

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GOVERNMENT SPENDING AS A PERCENTAGE OF GDP,

1870 - 1913

Source: The Cato Institute

“Little else is requisite to carry a state to the highest degree of opulence from the lowest

barbarism, but peace, easy taxes and a tolerable administration of justice.” 

Adam Smith

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GROWING WEALTH INEQUITY: THE GAP BETWEEN

YOUNGER AND OLDER AMERICANS

(MEDIAN NET WORTH IN 1984 AND IN 2009)

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Source: CNN Money, Pew Research Center, www.mybudget360.com

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MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD NET WORTH BY AGE GROUP,

1989 – 2010

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Source: Board of Governors of Federal Reserve System, 2010, Economic Policy Institute

“If all prices and incomes rose equally, no harm would be done to anyone. But the rise is not

equal. Many lose and some gain.” Irving Fisher

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NET US DOMESTIC CAPITAL SPENDING,

1947 - 2012

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US TRADE BALANCE, 1950 - 2012

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Source: Ron Griess, www.thechartstore.com

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INCREMENTAL DEMAND FROM CHINA AND EXPANSIONARY

MONETARY POLICIES DROVE COMMODITY PRICES HIGHER  

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Source: Barry Bannister, Stifel Nicolaus

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THE INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRIES’ RELATIVE

ECONOMIC DECLINE

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Source: Ed Yardeni; www.yardeni.com

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CHINA’S EXPORT DESTINATIONS 

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Source: The Bank Credit Analyst

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SOUTH KOREA’S EXPORT DESTINATIONS

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Source: The Bank Credit Analyst

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CHINA’S SHARE OF GLOBAL COMMODITY TRADE (NET

IMPORT AS PERCENTAGE OF WORLD IMPORT), 1992 - 2012

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Source: IMF, Maybank Kim Eng

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CHINA’S CURRENT SHARE OF

WORLD COMMODITY CONSUMPTION

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Source: Barclays Capital, www.agorafinancial.com

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AT SOME POINT COMMODITIES CONSUMPTION GROWTH

LEVELS OFF OR…. 

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Source: Ed Yardeni; www.yardeni.com

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..…OR DECLINES AS IN THE MOST

ADVANCED ECONOMIES

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Source: Ed Yardeni; www.yardeni.com

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A CREDIT BUBBLE IN CHINA! 

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Source: Bridgewater Associates

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RATIO OF HOME PRICES TO ANNUAL INCOME IN

SELECTED CITIES, 2011

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Source: IMF, Global Stability Report, Albert Edwards, Societe General

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CHINA’S OIL CONSUMPTION, 1987 - 2012

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Source: Ed Yardeni; www.yardeni.com

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CHINA’S “STRING OF PEARLS” TO PROTECT THE

SHIPPING LANES

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Sources: International Maritime Bureau

“The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the

second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring permanent ruin.” 

Ernest Hemingway

TENSIONS AROUND THE SOUTH CHINA SEA31

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TENSIONS AROUND THE SOUTH CHINA SEA

www.gloomboomdoom.comSource: www.middlebury.edu

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AVERAGE HOLDING PERIODS OF US EQUITIES,

1926 – 2011

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Source: Alan Newman, www.cross-currents.net

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HIGH VOLATILITY LIKELY TO CHARACTERIZE

ALL INVESTMENT MARKETS

Source: John Roque, WJB Capital Group ([email protected])

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O O A ASS S A S36

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HOW DO WE VALUE ASSETS WHEN REAL INTEREST

RATES ARE NEGATIVE?

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Source: Barry Bannister, Stifel Nicolaus

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WILL US CORPORATE PROFITS DISAPPOINT?

(AFTER-TAX PROFITS OF US CORPORATIONS AS A

PERCENTAGE OF BUSINESS GDP, 1950 – 2011)

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Source: Gerard Minack, Morgan Stanley

“It has long been recognized, by the business world and by economists alike, that a

period of rising prices acts as a stimulus to enterprise and is beneficial to business

men.” John Maynard Keynes

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PERCENTAGE OF US STOCKS WITH A DIVIDEND

YIELD HIGHER THAN TEN-YEAR TREASURY

NOTE YIELD, 2006 – 2012

Source: Wolfe Trahan & Co

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SELECTED “PRICE BUBBLES” 

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Source: The Bank Credit Analyst

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SELECTED EQUITIES IN GREECE, PORTUGAL, SPAIN,

ITALY, AND FRANCE ARE INEXPENSIVE

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Source: Thompson Reuters Datastream

“We are continually faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly

disguised as insoluble problems.” John W. Gardner

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WHAT IF THE EURO FALLS APART? 

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Source: Ron Griess, www.thechartstore.com 

MEXICAN PESO, 1969 - 2009 (Monthly Spot – Pesos per USD)

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MOVEMENT OF MEXICAN STOCKS IN PESO

AND USD, 1979 - 1988

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Source: Acciones Y Valores De Mexico, SA;

Marc Faber, The Great Money Illusion (Hong Kong, 1988)

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S&P 500 TRAILING 10-YEAR COMPOUND ANNUAL

TOTAL RETURN, 1825 - 2011

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Source: Barry Bannister, Stifel Nicolaus

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PREFERENCE FOR ASIAN EQUITIES

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Source: Nicholas Smithie, UBS

“Inflation is like sin; every government denounces it and every government

practices it.” Frederick Leigh-Ross

ONE CONCERN: EMERGING MARKET CURRENCIES45

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ONE CONCERN: EMERGING MARKET CURRENCIES

www.gloomboomdoom.comSource: The Bank Credit Analyst, J.P. Morgan Chase & Co

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Source: McKinsey & Company

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THE WORLD’S FINANCIAL WEALTH 2009

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There is no means of avoiding a final collapseof a boom brought about by credit expansion.

The alternative is only whether the crisis

should come sooner as a result of a voluntary

abandonment of further credit expansion, orlater as a final and total catastrophe of the

currency system involved.

Ludwig von Mises