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ethinking 20:00#ukedchat @teachingofsci @mrlockyer it depends if we discuss
evidence or feelings
ukedchat 20:00
It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @mrlockyer "Given the chance,
what would you keep, change, adjust or improve in our Edu system,
& why?"
mrlockyer 20:00 #ukedchat Good evening Edchatters! Tonights topic is simply - if
you could change something, what would you change and why? [1/4]
JanP65 20:01 National testing. As it stands puts so much pressure on learners and
not convinced it gives a true picture of learning. #Ukedchat
mrlockyer 20:01
#ukedchat Lets please keep this friendly and informed, and pls
also state WHY if you are suggesting something new/different/no
change[3/4]
dailydenouement 20:01
RT @ukedchat: It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @mrlockyer "Given
the chance, what would you keep, change, adjust or improve in ourEdu system, & why?"
mrlockyer 20:01
#ukedchat This is an opportunity to have some reasoned and
balanced debate, whilst celebrating what is great about our jobs and
schools[2/4]
dailydenouement 20:01#ukedchat Will try & keep up tonight, but not feeling 100% (oh &
watching the Olympics!)
icpjones 20:01
RT @ukedchat: It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat with @mrlockyer "Given
the chance, what would you keep, change, adjust or improve in our
Edu system, & why?"
nickotkdIV 20:02 @JanP65 would you ban testing? #ukedchat
ICTwitz 20:03@JanP65 It gives a picture of ability to recall facts, rather than testing
real understanding #ukedchat
mrlockyer 20:03#ukedchat Any initial thoughts, folks? Please note, no tweeting to
lose or changing lanes?
Monty_Math 20:03Right - going to try and multitask - Olympic swimming and #ukedchat
ethinking 20:03
@JanP65: RT @bartoneducation Saw this tweeted by one of my
followers earlier today. Its the future! http://t.co/FhsYUEMF
#Ukedchat
suegrundy 20:03 RT @bartoneducation: #ukedchat Saw this tweeted by one of myfollowers earlier today. It's the future! http://t.co/sYdZxvG6
danielharvey9 20:04 #ukedchat adjust goves' flawed thinking and inability to explain his
thinking at the time of announcement/leak.
MichelleDhillon 20:04 Making a return to #ukedchat tonight :-)
JanP65 20:04@nickotkdIV Not necessarily ban but think the culture of it needs to
change. #Ukedchat
nickotkdIV 20:05@JanP65 agree! we terst our year 3/4. If done correctly without
uneeded pressure chd do well #ukedchat
eslweb 20:05If I got the chance I would want more Portfolio assessment.
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ICTwitz 20:05I also think the 'building schools programme' was taking school
building in the right direction. #Ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:05 #ukedchat What I'd keep in our education system: A-levels, subject
specialism, faith schools and comprehensives..
Monty_Math 20:05 Okay - first up would remove gradings from lesson observations - noevidence to show they improve teaching #ukedchat
JanP65 20:05
@ICTwitz Exactly! Formative assessment, if properly integrated
should be able to give the information/data of learning needed
#Ukedchat
eslweb 20:06RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat I'd be tempted to introduce an
exchange-style scheme, so all teachers got to spend a year in a
different school every few years.
ICTwitz 20:06
@eslweb May I ask, how would the portfolio assessment be
collected? What are your thoughts? Electronically? Paper?Combination? #Ukedchat
nickotkdIV 20:06 @ShaunGosney an excellent point! #ukedchat
davoloid 20:06
Going to listen in to tonight's #ukedchat with @mrlockyer "what
would you keep, change, adjust or improve in our Edu system, &
why?"
dailydenouement 20:06 #ukedchat I'd be tempted to introduce an exchange-style scheme, so
all teachers got to spend a year in a different school every few years.
nickotkdIV 20:06 RT @ShaunGosney: @ukedchat need to change the Y1 phonics test.
Shouldn't tell a 6 year old that they have failed! #ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:06
@JanP65 I think it may be the constant assessment that's a problem.
There's always been national testing. Maybe slightly more now
#ukedchat
lizdudley 20:06Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, with real teachers being
seconded to be inspectors. #Ukedchat
nickotkdIV 20:06 @MichelleDhillon Welcome back #ukedchat
ICTwitz 20:06Worried about the state of some buildings, and the lack of space for
future generations. #Ukedchat
MichelleDhillon 20:07 I'd like to encourage use of social media in classroom/educatinglearners on how to use it positively, esp Twitter :) #ukedchat
Primary_Ed 20:07 I am now the PE coordinator in my school! Any ideas, resources or
links that will help me please let me know! #ukedchat #edchat
oldandrewuk 20:07
#ukedchat What I'd get rid of: dumbing-down, several layers of
management, inclusion, paperwork, student-voice, calculators in
maths...
ICTwitz 20:07 @lizdudley Having inspectors who are fully qualified would be a start
wouldn't it!!! I agree, need to be supportive. #Ukedchat
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nickotkdIV 20:07RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat I'd be tempted to introduce an
exchange-style scheme, so all teachers got to spend a year in a
different school every few years.
ethinking 20:07 #ukedchat @mrlockyer I'd keep the teacher who said they could only
assess creativity if it happened at the creative table
s_armitage 20:07
@mrlockyer Replace post 16 system with a bacc style one? (not
necessarily IB). Narrowing to 3 or 4 is counter rest of world
#ukedchat
JanP65 20:07 @ICTwitz And the inequality between children educated in new build
schools in those in old buildings. #Ukedchat
jamesdhobsonuk 20:08 I would have spot checks on toilets. Many children avoid them all day
if they can. It would improve learning quickly. "OFBOG" #ukedchat
JanP65 20:08 @ICTwitz And have actually taught at some point, preferably recently
and in that year group (prim or sec) #Ukedchat
danielharvey9 20:08
#ukedchat more seriously teachers and school leaders need to
develop new assessment ideas/approaches that capture key
audiences.
davoloid 20:08@MichelleDhillon That is definitely needed, just look at the Daley
troll this week. #Ukedchat
dailydenouement 20:08
#ukedchat Good idea! >>> RT @nickotkdIV: @dailydenouement
would you make teacher go through the key stages ire KS2 teach in
KS3?
ICTwitz 20:08Finally, @oldandrewuk starts speaking some sense ;-) #Ukedchat
ICTwitz 20:08@JanP65 Eton is pretty old, but I get your drift! ;-) #Ukedchat
eslweb 20:08 @ICTwitz I'd do it electronically, because instead of textbooks they'd
have tablets like the transformer all connected to WIFI. #ukedchat
ethinking 20:08 #ukedchat @mrlockyer I'd keep the teacher who said they couldn't
assess ability in subtraction because they hadn't taught it yet
eslweb 20:09 @jamesdhobsonuk I agree, at a College I used to work, the cleaners
cleaned them every hour during the day. So much better. #ukedchat
danielharvey9 20:09#ukedchat that way gove will look isolated if ofsted and school
improvement says schools know best.
nickotkdIV 20:09@dailydenouement Cool! not sure i fancy Year 9 but i am up for the
challenge! #ukedchat
eyebeams 20:09@MichelleDhillon #ukedchat - join up here > http://t.co/nQPOjcye
oldandrewuk 20:09 #ukedchat ...phonics denialism in English, citizenship, PSHE, anyinitiative known by its initials, meetings, INSET. Most things really.
JanP65 20:09 @ICTwitz LOL! #Ukedchat
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AnnMroz 20:09 @oldandrewuk Why faith schools? #ukedchat
primaryteachICT 20:10
Technology in the new Early Years Foundation Stage:What do you
need to prepare? #ukedchat #earlyyears http://t.co/yGnmkqQJ via
@marc_faulder
oldandrewuk 20:10
#ukedchat What I'd improve: workload, expectations of behaviour
and effort, minimal qualification for managers, teaching methods. So
much.
HelenaPielichat 20:10
RT @Primary_Ed: I am now the PE coordinator in my school! Any
ideas, resources or links that will help me please let me know!
#ukedchat #edchat
JanP65 20:10 Recently been reading up about Flipping Classrooms. Think the idea is
great. Would like to see it in practice. Anyone doing it? #Ukedchat
mrlockyer 20:10#ukedchat What is good about learning at the moment? Which
aspects of the curriculum need to change?
MichelleDhillon 20:10@nickotkdIV Thanks very much! Been having a rest, of sorts :/ Nice to
tweet you :) #ukedchat
TaffTykeC 20:10RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat I'd be tempted to introduce an
exchange-style scheme, so all teachers got to spend a year in a
different school every few years.
mikemcsharry 20:10
RT @Primary_Ed: I am now the PE coordinator in my school! Any
ideas, resources or links that will help me please let me know!
#ukedchat #edchat
nicoladarling78 20:11 @JanP65 what is flipping classrooms? #ukedchat
Mr_Kerwood 20:11 Which tablet should I get? #Samsung Galaxy 2 or #Google Nexus7?
Any advice folks? http://t.co/LvmYEuLG #edtech #ukedchat
EmmaAbuDhabi 20:11 RT @lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, with real
teachers being seconded to be inspectors. Here here! #Ukedchat
dafyddhumphreys 20:11#ukedchat @mrlockyer Nationalise all the private schools and
academies.
JanP65 20:11 @TaffTykeC I agree. In Scotland with the guaranteed prob year mov't
bt schools is even more restricted! #Ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:11 @MichelleDhillon on similar note I'd like more teachers on twittersharing info & resources. 2 many who don't or won't share #ukedchat
s_armitage 20:11
Promoting twitter with sixth form @StephenPerse. Good reaction
from students MT @MichelleDhillon: use of social media in
classroom #ukedchat
MichelleDhillon 20:11 RT @davoloid: @MichelleDhillon That is definitely needed, just look
at the Daley troll this week exactly why I said it! :)) #Ukedchat
ethinking 20:12 #ukedchat @cherrylkd @michelledhillon that's not about twitter -
the underlying cause is complacency and or incompetence
jamesdhobsonuk 20:12RT @dafyddhumphreys: #ukedchat @mrlockyer Nationalise all the
private schools and academies.
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eslweb 20:12 @Mr_Kerwood They're both made by Samsung. But it depends if you
want a large phone or a small tablet. #ukedchat
ICTwitz 20:12RT @SwayGrantham: agree our classrooms are already pushing it in
terms size and space #ukedchat
ukedchat 20:12All *relevant* links shared during #ukedchat sessions are collected at
http://t.co/XUB5jSQD
ICTwitz 20:12@mrlockyer There are some good aspects of AfL, it can really hone in
on what pupils have learned. #Ukedchat
eslweb 20:13RT @lizdudley: More funding available for new technology for use in
the classroom please! #Ukedchat
JanP65 20:13
@nicoladarling78 From what I understand students watch lectures at
home and work in school hands on with teacher avail as support
#Ukedchat
TaffTykeC 20:13@dailydenouement love this idea! Great CPD without worry of
interview/move etc. #ukedchat
nickotkdIV 20:13 love the creative curriculum! #ukedchatlizdudley 20:13
More funding available for new technology for use in the classroom
please! #Ukedchat
mrlockyer 20:13 RT @ICTwitz: @mrlockyer There are some good aspects of AfL, it can
really hone in on what pupils have learned. #Ukedchat
dailydenouement 20:13 #ukedchat I'm not sure how I'd do it, but I think parent/carer
involvement needs to be changed. I'd like to see real partnership.
jennyfer37 20:13
@mrlockyer many teachers trying new & innovative ways to engage
students thru tech= gd. Many 2 scared 2 try & not supptd to do so
#ukedchat
JanP65 20:14 @Monty_Math I agree! #Ukedchat
lovepookiecat 20:14RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat I'd be tempted to introduce an
exchange-style scheme, so all teachers got to spend a year in a
different school every few years.
nickotkdIV 20:14 @ShaunGosney unrealalistic! #ukedchat
TaffTykeC 20:14RT @primaryteachICT: Technology in the new Early Years Foundation
Stage:What do you need to prepare? #ukedchat #earlyyears
http://t.co/yGnmkqQJ via @marc_faulder
MrG_ICT 20:14 RT @lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, with real
teachers being seconded to be inspectors. Here here! #Ukedchat
dailydenouement 20:14 RT @lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, with real
teachers being seconded to be inspectors. #Ukedchat
ICTwitz 20:14@dailydenouement Agree, I think that is a tough nut to crack
#Ukedchat
nickotkdIV 20:14@mrlockyer i would want to improve the red tape that schools get
#ukedchat
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nicoladarling78 20:14 RT @lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, with real
teachers being seconded to be inspectors. #Ukedchat
Monty_Math 20:14Changes to curriculum - Make afl key in curriculum, personalise
learning as far as possible #ukedchat
nicoladarling78 20:14 @dailydenouement Oooo that sounds interesting and it would begreat if sometimes it could be international too! #ukedchat
ethinking 20:14 #Ukedchat @dafyddhumphreys @mrlockyer @jamesdhobsonuk
privatise the whole system - allow the weak staff to be binned
oldandrewuk 20:14@AnnMroz #ukedchat Because they encourage free-thinking.
mrlockyer 20:15
RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat I'm not sure how I'd do it, but I
think parent/carer involvement needs to be changed. I'd like to see
real partnership.
TaffTykeC 20:15 @primaryteachICT @marc_faulder I'm in reception next year and
really want to use even more ICT across the year group. #ukedchat
nicoladarling78 20:15@JanP65 so it's a secondary rather than primary thing? #ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:15
@mrlockyer Too much PSHE. We do job of parents & community via
PSHE. It can't all be job of teachers to produce good citizens
#ukedchat
brynll 20:15 @mrlockyer Build on Olympics. Legacy. Develop interest in games,
physicality...not just football and other traditional sports #ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:15@dafyddhumphreys @mrlockyer what would nationalisation achieve
realistically? #ukedchat
dailydenouement 20:16#ukedchat I'd like to change the observation process so it is about
developing practice & not judging.
Jon_Torbitt 20:16@danielharvey9 not sure what you mean can you be more
specific? #ukedchat
JanP65 20:16@nicoladarling78 Do a web search for flipped classrooms. Quite
interesting idea. #Ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:16@ethinking @michelledhillon Possibly so. I know I've learned loads
since joining twitter #ukedchat
hip_teacher 20:16#ukedchat I'd like more smooth jazz in lessons, more of the time#aces
MichelleDhillon 20:16
@s_armitage @StephenPerse sounds very interesting, will check it
out :) I'm also encouraging students to use Twitter to share work
#ukedchat
nickotkdIV 20:16RT @lizdudley: More funding available for new technology for use in
the classroom please! #Ukedchat
JanP65 20:16@nicoladarling78 Oh no! I think it could be used in Primary as well.
Upper at least! #Ukedchat
Stephen_Logan 20:16
@ukedchat quality careers information advice and guidance,
employability and enterprise to support students with their future.#ukedchat
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Jon_Torbitt 20:16
@lizdudley don't make more money available, stop the ripoff culture
that pervades education suppliers who deliver poor products
#ukedchat
i_am_seamus 20:16
RT @Primary_Ed: I am now the PE coordinator in my school! Any
ideas, resources or links that will help me please let me know!
#ukedchat #edchat
nickotkdIV 20:17 #ukedchat more funding given to school for them to spend. less ringfenced money!
ICTwitz 20:17 I think the pressure should be turned onto Head-teachers. So many
weak leaders out there, stopping the cream from rising. #Ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:17 @s_armitage @mrlockyer need to sort UCAS system and unfair
pressures whilst you're reforming A Levels #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:17
@AnnMroz #ukedchat Only places with ideals that predate the
progressive tradition of the early 20th century which are the
dominant paradigm.
HilaryNunns 20:17 RT @lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, with real
teachers being seconded to be inspectors. #Ukedchat
nicoladarling78 20:17@lizdudley yes please that would be brilliant! More funding! ;-)
#ukedchat
s_armitage 20:17 Maths for everyone to age 18? #ukedchat with right curriculum no
reason for it to be bad. Prob of enough teachers obvious though...
Jon_Torbitt 20:18
. @s_armitage not just Maths, make it a STEM - bin individual
subjects and go for science/eng with maths/comp/sci all in one
#ukedchat
plestered 20:18
#ukedchat @ukedchat 1. government interference- constant
meddling just causes stress, slows down improvements and does not
benefit stdnts..
CanonsOPP 20:18 RT @lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, with real
teachers being seconded to be inspectors. #Ukedchat
nickotkdIV 20:18 RT @HilaryNunns: #ukedchat I'd like to see schools/colleges
collaborating over staff training + development
jennyfer37 20:18 @lizdudley but make sure it is being used for a purpose - not buying
it then inventing a reason to use it #ukedchat
CanonsOPP 20:18@oldandrewuk Would that be all faith schools? #Ukedchat
HilaryNunns 20:18#ukedchat I'd like to see schools/colleges collaborating over staff
training + development
Monty_Math 20:18
@dailydenouement: #ukedchat I'd like to change the
observation process so it is about developing practice & not
judging.agreed!
JanP65 20:18 RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat Id like to change the observation
process so it is about developing practice & not judging. #Ukedchat
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GeographyCarrie 20:18
RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat I'm not sure how I'd do it, but I
think parent/carer involvement needs to be changed. I'd like to see
real partnership.
Fiona_Davis 20:18 RT @lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, with real
teachers being seconded to be inspectors. #Ukedchat
MichelleDhillon 20:18 @r_b_bastard On another note, sure I can give you tips etc! :)#ukedchat
dailydenouement 20:19 #ukedchat I'd like there to be more of a focus on decent careers
advice, tailored to pupils. Let's really prepare them for post-edu life.
ethinking 20:19
#ukedchat @ICTwitz @dailydenouement involving parents is
inconvenient - they have ideas abt hw their kids learn=> discourage it
at all costs
Jon_Torbitt 20:19
@HilaryNunns: #ukedchat I'd like to see schools/colleges
collaborating over staff training + developmenti'd like non-
pointless CPD/INSET?
danielharvey9 20:19
@EmmaAbuDhabi: RT @lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive
system, with real teachers being seconded to be inspectors
#Ukedchat so Right
nickotkdIV 20:19#ukedchat make more money availble to dvevelop staff not SOW!
MichelleDhillon 20:19 @ethinking Good point @cherrylkd, bit ironic as I'm getting students
to share their work across the networks/media ;) #ukedchat
s_armitage 20:19
@MichelleDhillon need to be careful re safeguarding if you are
thinking of making all students use twitter. It is poss though.
#ukedchat
HilaryNunns 20:19 RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat I'd like to change the observation
process so it is about developing practice & not judging.
nicoladarling78 20:20 @nickotkdIV here here!!! I agree we need to know what they want
from us and so training should be given! #ukedchat
jamesdhobsonuk 20:20 I would like every pressure group who wants their hobby horse to be
" put in the National Curriculum" to get stuffed. #ukedchat
plestered 20:20@ukedchat #ukedchat 2. Assessment framewrk does not oftenreflect true ability of students & can narrow their education & thirst
for knwldge
s_armitage 20:20 @Jon_Torbitt wish reform of ALevels was set in context of vision for
education.Too piecemeal, political and cost saving agenda #ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:20
@dailydenouement For us that's already changing. More peer
mentoring than observation. Very supportive. Not judgemental
#ukedchat
ICTwitz 20:20@ethinking LOL, I know what you're getting at. Lots to thank the
Daily Mail for!!! #Ukedchat
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ethinking 20:20 #ukedchat @Jon_Torbitt @lizdudley sack the stupid teachers who are
not bright enough to identify duff products. Professionals not victims.
mrlockyer 20:20
#ukedchat How do you assess? Does it work? How do you know?
What would you change? Are Exams worth it? Can I fit any more
questions into thi
Mr_Kerwood 20:20 @eslweb thanks for the advice. Take it galaxy is the large phone? I
think I want a tablet, shame nexus is not bigger!! #ukedchat
eslweb 20:20 I'd like to see teacher being given time to do action research. Nothing
helps you reflect than having a useful project to do. #ukedchat
nickotkdIV 20:20 #ukedchat change OFSTED Obs: if schools have good manmagemnet
why is OFSTED needed? get rid of them! more supportive role!
ethinking 20:21 RT @oldandrewuk: @Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat Combiningsubjects always dumbs down. They are separate for a reason.
danielharvey9 20:21
@ICTwitz: I think the pressure should be turned on heads So many
weak leaders out there, stopping the cream from rising #ukedchat
ouch!!
s_armitage 20:21
@Jon_Torbitt how about English and foreign Lang too? Why should
we limit our horizons and those of students for next generation.
#ukedchat
ethinking 20:21#ukedchat @plestered @ukedchat the govt pay for education - they.
Are elected specifically to meddle...
Stephen_Logan 20:21 @dailydenouement most definitely #crucial #ukedchat
MichelleDhillon 20:21
@s_armitage Using a safe schools only social network we've buil
with strong code of behaviour that is reinforced to all students
#ukedchat
jamesdhobsonuk 20:21RT @ethinking: #ukedchat @ICTwitz @dailydenouement involving
parents is inconvenient - they have ideas abt hw their kids learn=>
discourage it at all costs
nickotkdIV 20:21 @mrlockyer assessment should be made a postive for the children.
challnge them to beat thyere previuous best! #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:21 @CanonsOPP #ukedchat Of course not.
Jon_Torbitt 20:21 #ukedchat @ethinking @lizdudley sadly the people making decisions
are usually the 1s with the power to do the sacking!
CanonsOPP 20:21 #Ukedchat I'd like to see a change in how education is led, with
politicians deferring to education specialists from time to time.
lizdudley 20:21
Realistic careers advice from an early age too, see too many 6th
formers devastated when you point out not everyone can be dr/vet
#Ukedchat
JanP65 20:21@dailydenouement My nephew in Canada has the choice to studymedicine, law, etc in High School! Early career development!
#Ukedchat
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oldandrewuk 20:21 @Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat Combining subjects always
dumbs down. They are separate for a reason.
Stephen_Logan 20:21
RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat I'd like there to be more of a focus
on decent careers advice, tailored to pupils. Let's really prepare them
for post-edu life.
Jon_Torbitt 20:22 @s_armitage yep, fiddling whilst Rome burns has sprung to mind afew times! #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:22 @CanonsOPP #ukedchat Right. Democracy replaced with even more
bureaucracy. Can't imagine anything worse.
CanonsOPP 20:22 @oldandrewuk Sorry. What I meant was all types, not all individual
faith schools (eg Muslim, Hindu, Christian). #Ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:22@s_armitage could do - humanities? STEM is my bag though, rubbish
at Biology sadly! #ukedchat
DJTom3 20:22RT @ukedchat: At 8pm @mrlockyer is hosting #ukedchat with "Given
the chance, what would you keep, change, adjust or improve in our
Edu system, & why?"
benniekara 20:22 I'd like mentoring of beginner teachers to be accredited for thse who
strive to do it well - not enough focus on mentors in sch. #ukedchat
HilaryNunns 20:22Hampshire 6th forms have a common inset day, share expertise and
costs - works well! #ukedchat
GeographyCarrie 20:22 @JanP65 I've tried it and like it with my Gcse classes - but relies on
access to tech at home and kids being bothered #flipclass #ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:22
@oldandrewuk @s_armitage not necessarily - Germans do ok? I
could teach Maths/Computing as one subject without dumbing down
#ukedchat
ICTwitz 20:23@danielharvey9 AND, some governing bodies are just too weak!
#Ukedchat
JanP65 20:23
@ethinking All careers involved different curriculum knowledge,
should we not be encouraging these skills in schools by combining?
#Ukedchat
ICTwitz 20:23
@danielharvey9 Hehe, don't get me wrong, there are some great
leaders out there. Some HT's clearly hold their schools back!#Ukedchat
plestered 20:23
@ukedchat #ukedchat 3. Schools shld be allowed REAL freedoms to
innovate and be creative. On that point- 4. Ebacc- let's have a proper
one!
MichelleDhillon 20:23
@davoloid Ha! Not just Daley troll, there is no real education for
learners on how to use social media & avoid getting arrested ;)
#ukedchat
vausekatie 20:24
@ukedchat @mrlockyer #ukedchat support enterprise education
across all levels so that we can create a future generation of
entrepreneurs
TaffTykeC 20:24@primaryteachICT @marc_faulder Thanks for the tip! Can't wait to
take IcT to my new class. #ukedchat
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Stephen_Logan 20:24Whatever changes made, TIME to see it through. Always constant
change after change. #ukedchat
dailydenouement 20:24
RT @GeographyCarrie: #ukedchat I'd like more time to observe other
teachers, develop collaborative links with them to make progress in
my career #ukedchat
s_armitage 20:24
@Jon_Torbitt @oldandrewuk no reason why right curric of Maths
and STEM can't engage w range of ability and interest to age 18#ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:24@CanonsOPP #ukedchat On the whole. Some denominations more
than others.
GeographyCarrie 20:24
#ukedchat I'd like more time to observe other teachers, develop
collaborative links with them to make progress in my career
#ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:24 @danielharvey9 @ictwitz problem u have is - who judges heads?
Why are they the best choices? #ukedchat
MichelleDhillon 20:24@cherrylkd @ethinking Me too! Twitter is an excellent resource thatmore people should make use of for professional purposes
#ukedchat
mrlockyer 20:25
RT @vausekatie: @ukedchat @mrlockyer #ukedchat support
enterprise education across all levels so that we can create a future
generation of entrepreneurs
CanonsOPP 20:25
@oldandrewuk What's so democratic about current system? Plenty
happening not in manifestos and damage done by next election.
#Ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:25
@MichelleDhillon @ethinking #ukedchat No one refuses a new
initiative I take to school from twitter yet there's reluctance to join.
Odd!
Jon_Torbitt 20:25
@s_armitage @oldandrewuk totally agree - you just need a games
programming book to show the importance of Maths/Physics!
#ukedchat
mrlockyer 20:25
RT @GeographyCarrie: #ukedchat I'd like more time to observe other
teachers, develop collaborative links with them to make progress in
my career #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:25@Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat Are you saying Germans don't
teach maths as a subject?
ethinking 20:25
#ukedchat @oldandrewuk @JanP65 pursue the discipline, then apply
it....Howard Gardner said so
HilaryNunns 20:26
RT @GeographyCarrie: #ukedchat I'd like more time to observe other
teachers, develop collaborative links with them to make progress in
my career #ukedchat
JanP65 20:26@mrlockyer Yes! Cross curricular application of learning! #Ukedchat
CanonsOPP 20:26@oldandrewuk Why some more than others? Surely what's good for
the goose... #Ukedchat
Ann_Litchfield 20:26 RT @lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, with real
teachers being seconded to be inspectors. #Ukedchat
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Monty_Math 20:26 Wld love to see more teachers teaching in way they believe is best
rather than doing what they think others are looking for #ukedchat
GeographyCarrie 20:26@cherrylkd @michelledhillon @ethinking I have a similar experience
#ukedchat
nickotkdIV 20:26 RT @MrG_ICT: #ukedchat Take politics out of education. Then wechange ed based on research and experienc not on political whim.
Run by panel of edu prof
Jon_Torbitt 20:26
@oldandrewuk @s_armitage No - Germans have the chance to
specialise in areas rather than individual subjects before GCSE age
#ukedchat
TaffTykeC 20:26 @nicoladarling78 @dailydenouement I agree. Chance to see other
curriculums in other countries...amazing! #ukedchat
MrG_ICT 20:26
#ukedchat Take politics out of education. Then we change ed based
on research and experienc not on political whim. Run by panel ofedu prof
nicoladarling78 20:26 @benniekara That is a very good point! ;-) #ukedchat
lizdudley 20:26 Time to do things is a big thing for teachers, in FE our teaching hours
keep increasing as budgets get cut, little time for PD #Ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:26@AnnMroz #ukedchat You clearly know nothing about faith schools.
ICTwitz 20:26 One frustration to me is that the last government had the chance to
really change edu in England, but didn't push it through. #Ukedchat
CanonsOPP 20:26@oldandrewuk I didn't propose more bureaucracy, nor did I advocate
an
TaffTykeC 20:27
@brynll @mrlockyer I agree. Great opportunity for that! I have had
my own eyes opened to other sports like hockey and volleyball!
#ukedchat
CanonsOPP 20:27@MrG_ICT I agree with the vast majority of that. #Ukedchat
DJTom3 20:27#ukedchat - more clash for school buildings, making ofsted fairer,
they are ideas I can think if at the mo. #fb
Jon_Torbitt 20:27 . @MrG_ICT Does research not take too long? Can it be done morequickly, at speed of private sector? #ukedchat
Stephen_Logan 20:27
RT @vausekatie: @ukedchat @mrlockyer #ukedchat support
enterprise education across all levels so that we can create a future
generation of entrepreneurs
oldandrewuk 20:27 @s_armitage @Jon_Torbitt #ukedchat Or we could stop trying to
entertain, sorry "engage" and just try to make them learn.
CanonsOPP 20:27RT @MrG_ICT: #ukedchat Take politics out of education. Then we
change ed based on research and experienc not on political whim.Run by panel of edu prof
icpjones 20:27 #ukedchat @s_armitage
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plestered 20:27 @ukedchat #ukedchat 5. Big up the profession! Too much in the
press, often by politicians about how poor state education is...
GeographyCarrie 20:28 @lizdudley same for teachers in academies... I'm on a heavier
timetable than ever next year. Sucks right?! #ukedchat
s_armitage 20:28@oldandrewuk @Jon_Torbitt I think the point is science /Maths forall post 16 might involve being less subject focussed. Skills?
#ukedchat
ICTwitz 20:28 @danielharvey9 Well read ;-) #Ukedchat
CanonsOPP 20:28 @gingertom5 And it's only the voices they want to hear that (largely)
support their existing predelictions. #Ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:28 @Monty_Math that's ok when they are doing it well - what if they're
not? Could they do more harm than good? #ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:28 @nickotkdIV @michelledhillon @ethinking #ukedchat just me in myschool. Shame.
plestered 20:28
@ukedchat #ukedchat...cld go on but nd to put kids to bed! Some grt
discssns going on- keep them coming. Twitter is challenging views-
grt!
hgaldinoshea 20:28 RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat I'd like to change the observation
process so it is about developing practice & not judging.
JillLavs 20:28
@lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, real teachers
being seconded to be inspectors. #Ukedchat Imagine...secondmt
idea.gd!
nicoladarling78 20:28 @TaffTykeC @dailydenouement managed to go to India for a week
on a #britishcouncil trip a while back and learnt SO much #ukedchat
MichelleDhillon 20:28 @geographycarrie @cherrylkd @nickotkdIV @ethinking Maybe they
just prefer other people to do the 'work'? ;) #ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:28
@benniekara #ukedchat Spot on! As teacher mentors we give so
much time 2 it, should be accredited course. Remove those who
don't want 2do it
danielharvey9 20:28
@ICTwitz: @danielharvey9 AND, some governing bodies are just
too weak! #Ukedchatthey can't all be great. U sound vexed byyours??
nickotkdIV 20:29 RT @lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, with real
teachers being seconded to be inspectors. #Ukedchat
Anniegottago 20:29 #ukedchat more teachers to become excited by cpd possibilities of
Twitter, PLNs, collaborations etc and take initiative for own learning.
Jon_Torbitt 20:29
@oldandrewuk @s_armitage thought that's what we did anyway? I
go out of my way to tell them i'm not there for that, mine do ok?
#ukedchat
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cherrylkd 20:29 @MichelleDhillon @geographycarrie @nickotkdiv @ethinking
#ukedchat I think you're right there. Let others do the work!
oldandrewuk 20:29
@Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat When we start trying to justify
academic learning by relating it to hobbies we might as well just give
up
nicoladarling78 20:29 RT @Stephen_Logan: Whatever changes made, TIME to see it
through. Always constant change after change. #ukedchat
DJTom3 20:29 RT @lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, with real
teachers being seconded to be inspectors. #Ukedchat
nicoladarling78 20:29@cherrylkd @MichelleDhillon @ethinking a strange thing isn't it! ;-)
Same for me too! #ukedchat
nicoladarling78 20:30 @Stephen_Logan Couldn't agree more! So many things feel rushed
when just a little more time could make them work well! #ukedchatnickotkdIV 20:30
RT @ICTwitz: Should teachers/schools offer more flexible school
timings? #Ukedchat
TaffTykeC 20:30 @nicoladarling78 @dailydenouement How do you get to do this sort
of stuff? Wish it was a given opportunity in the profession #ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:30
.@s_armitage @oldandrewuk one skill - learning and applying
fundamentals to changing situations - vital in private sector business
#ukedchat
ukedchat 20:30
Half way through #ukedchat this week @mrlockyer "Given the
chance, what would you keep, change, adjust or improve in our Edu
system, & why?"
ICTwitz 20:30Should teachers/schools offer more flexible school timings?
#Ukedchat
eslweb 20:30 I think taking the politicians out of education like the Bank of England
sets rates independently...Not for short term gain #ukedchat
PeterAllen1 20:30 I agree with making the learning cross curricular but as long as it is
done the right way in the children's best interest #ukedchat
GeographyCarrie 20:30 @dailydenouement I got to spend a mere two weeks in Poland formy pgce and it was immensely useful #ukedchat
lizdudley 20:30@nicoladarling78 Unfortunately I'm only part time so still have time
to dabble in my own time, #Ukedchat
mrlockyer 20:30
#ukedchat So, practically no-one seems to like OFSTED and the
current (2/8/2012) inspection system. Why not? What is a better
replacement?
danielharvey9 20:30
@Stephen_Logan: Whatever changes made, TIME to see it
through. Always constant change after change. #ukedchatsame as
it ever was
mrlockyer 20:30 @oldandrewuk @AnnMroz Hello! Did you see the 'please keep it
friendly' bit at the start? MASSIVE SMILEY FACE #ukedchat
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CanonsOPP 20:31 @mrlockyer School-to-school support with sufficient rigour and full
trained HMI moderation of decisions. #Ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:31@CanonsOPP #ukedchat So, if democracy is not 100% responsive it
should be abolished?
GeographyCarrie 20:31 #ukedchat every school should have a fully funded breakfast club...Get children started well for a day of learning
eslweb 20:31
@ICTwitz @nickotkdIV I think there's advantages to offering some
students less time at school whilst others can add
enrichments.#ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:31@oldandrewuk @s_armitage Not sure where the hobbies bit comes
into it -prepare them for FE/HE/employment. ECM > economic
wellbeing #ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:31
RT @CanonsOPP: #Ukedchat I'd like to see a change in how
education is led, with politicians deferring to education specialistsfrom time to time.
Monty_Math 20:31
@Jon_Torbitt I don't think we can force people to change but
hopefully can convince armed with best arguments & research
#ukedchat
pollytodd 20:31
RT @Primary_Ed: I am now the PE coordinator in my school! Any
ideas, resources or links that will help me please let me know!
#ukedchat #edchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:32.@MrsThorne @lizdudley some sort of name/shame without
compromising libel laws perhaps!? #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:32@CanonsOPP #ukedchat Yes you did. You asked that elected
politicians defer to unelected "specialists".
MichelleDhillon 20:32
@cherrylkd @GeographyCarrie @nickotkdIV @ethinking Ha, I'm
always right ;) Seriously I think some see this as another task to do
#ukedchat
TaffTykeC 20:32
@marc_faulder @brynll @primaryteachict @project_hero Sport,
especially this yr with Olympics, is a great platform to build on!
#ukedchat
MrsThorne 20:32@Jon_Torbitt @lizdudley yes, yes, yes - the rip off suppliers make me
want to weep! #ukedchat
HilaryNunns 20:32
@jon_torbitt too right! Pointless CPD time is the same as drinking
water in a champagne bar #ukedchat
eslweb 20:32 The biggest change I would make to schools is simple. 3 square meals
a day. No charge and no questions asked. #ukedchat
s_armitage 20:32
@Jon_Torbitt @oldandrewuk I agree. Importance of stepping outside
our subject is vital. BUT Doesn't mean throwing subject out
#ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:32
@Monty_Math Sadly not going to happen - money / lobbying will
make most difference, followed by repeated successes and shouting
it #ukedchat
ClareBrunet 20:32RT @Monty_Math: Okay - first up would remove gradings fromlesson observations - no evidence to show they improve teaching
#ukedchat
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mrlockyer 20:33 RT @eslweb: The biggest change I would make to schools is simple. 3
square meals a day. No charge and no questions asked. #ukedchat
brynll 20:33 @TaffTykeC @mrlockyer Sand tray at BPPS FS converted to beach
volleyball court? #smallworldplay #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:33@Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat That's not the same thing.
ukedchat 20:33 Please remember to include the #ukedchat hash-tag in your tweets
during the session ;-D http://t.co/z9mg582d
DidgeH 20:33
RT @nickotkdIV: RT @ShaunGosney: @ukedchat need to change the
Y1 phonics test. Shouldn't tell a 6 year old that they have failed!
#ukedchat
CapitaTeachers 20:33
RT @ukedchat: Half way through #ukedchat this week @mrlockyer
"Given the chance, what would you keep, change, adjust or improve
in our Edu system, & why?"
Anniegottago 20:33
RT @GeographyCarrie: #ukedchat I'd like more time to observe other
teachers, develop collaborative links with them to make progress in
my career #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:34 @AnnMroz #ukedchat Where and when?
cherrylkd 20:34
@mrlockyer #ukedchat Ofsted should be supportive and be there for
good of pupils' education. It was never meant to be judgemental or
harmful
Jon_Torbitt 20:34 .@HilaryNunns not as healthy! Let's hear it for sleeping and marking
in whole-school INSET! #ukedchat you know you've all considered it!
MrG_ICT 20:34
@jon_torbitt #lot of research re hothousing for SATs etc. Agree
research takes long time but rather take time & make right decis
#ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:34@CanonsOPP #ukedchat Some denominations have firmer traditions.
mrlockyer 20:34 RT @HilaryNunns: @jon_torbitt too right! Pointless CPD time is the
same as drinking water in a champagne bar #ukedchat
eslweb 20:34 @oldandrewuk @CanonsOPP Perhaps take it to the other extreme
and make heads elected like Sheriffs in the US. #ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:35 @eslweb @oldandrewuk @canonsopp does elected heads not favour
those who can afford to campaign though (same people)? #ukedchat
mrlockyer 20:35RT @cherrylkd: @mrlockyer #ukedchat Ofsted should be supportive
and be there for good of pupils' education. It was never meant to be
judgemental or harmful
oldandrewuk 20:35 @s_armitage @Jon_Torbitt #ukedchat "Skills" is the biggest excuse
for dumbing-down ever. Just the absolute worst.
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TaffTykeC 20:35 @nicoladarling78 @dailydenouement I suppose this idea will be a
long way off now with cut backs :( #ukedchat #shame
ethinking 20:35 #ukedchat @plestered @ukedchat Finland is full of Finnish people
doing it the Finnish way - it won't travel here #bobsledjamaican
StarLesson 20:35RT @CanonsOPP: #Ukedchat I'd like to see a change in howeducation is led, with politicians deferring to education specialists
from time to time.
danielharvey9 20:35@PeterAllen1 #ukedchat v hard to do well and in a meaningful way.
Though having 2 cracks at it next year.
nicoladarling78 20:36RT @MrG_ICT: #ukedchat Would like staff meetings where we talk
about children and not OFSTED.
TaffTykeC 20:36
@brynll @mrlockyer As I work there and I am keen...watch this
space! We do have big sandpits actually #Bradfordvolleyball #FS
#ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:36@oldandrewuk @s_armitage Partially agree - can teach mentallytough skills but fail to see how multi-side A4 reports test skills
#ukedchat
danielharvey9 20:36 I think taking the politicians out of education like the BoE sets rates
independently.Not for short term gain #ukedchat this should happen
PeterAllen1 20:36
Make Ofsted more of a professional development tool. Less pressure
on inspection, more consistent approach to developing schools
#ukedchat
MichelleDhillon 20:36 Should there be 24 hour schooling? Bit like Asda but way more fun!
'Softly' encourage kids to learn/work around the clock :) #ukedchat
ethinking 20:36#ukedchat @planetchampion @ictwitz @dailydenouement I was
being sarcastic
MrG_ICT 20:36#ukedchat Would like staff meetings where we talk about children
and not OFSTED.
oldandrewuk 20:36
RT @mrlockyer: @oldandrewuk @AnnMroz Hello! Did you see the
'please keep it friendly' bit at the start? MASSIVE SMILEY FACE
#ukedchat
BryanPHarrison 20:36
RT @eslweb The biggest change I would make to schools is simple. 3
square meals a day. No charge. No questions asked. #ukedchat ->
Bang on!
MissBex_M 20:36RT @cherrylkd: @mrlockyer #ukedchat Ofsted should be supportive
and be there for good of pupils' education. It was never meant to be
judgemental or harmful
CanonsOPP 20:36
@eslweb @oldandrewuk Definitely not for me. US system of sheriffs
awfully abused. Depoliticise education not politicise educators.
#Ukedchat
PeterAllen1 20:37@danielharvey9 Very hard to do well but definitely worth it when
you crack it! #ukedchat
Jacqhutch 20:37RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat I'd like there to be more of a focuson decent careers advice, tailored to pupils. Let's really prepare them
for post-edu life.
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Jon_Torbitt 20:37 @Anniegottago @hilarynunns You don't MAKE them do anything.
Without volunteer/selfless atmosphere yo've already lost #ukedchat
rashush2 20:37@oldandrewuk I ALWAYS smile when you're here!! :-) #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:37 @Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat No such skill.
rhythminside 20:37RT @cherrylkd: @mrlockyer #ukedchat Ofsted should be supportive
and be there for good of pupils' education. It was never meant to be
judgemental or harmful
PositiveCarol 20:37
#Ukedchat accept that mainstream school doesnt work universally
and that some kids learn more effectively with more flexible
approach
MissBex_M 20:37@ICTwitz this is an interesting question - what reasons would Govt
'allow' for changes? #ukedchat
eslweb 20:37
@CanonsOPP @oldandrewuk This all depends on WHO is doing the
electing. Imagine if it were the teachers that decided or theparents.#ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:37
@mrlockyer @AnnMroz That better not be aimed at me for
suggesting that accusing thousands of schools of intolerance is
ignorant #ukedchat
CanonsOPP 20:37@oldandrewuk Pretty sure most of them have firm traditions. Not
talking sects or cults here. #Ukedchat
davoloid 20:37 @MichelleDhillon I'd say it only needs a light touch, and could be part
of crossover between ICT and personal rels (PHSE?) #ukedchat
rashush2 20:37@mrlockyer Ofsted should contain the means for improvement not
just judgment #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:38
@Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat Computer games are a hobby.
They are clearly less important than the whole of maths & physics
combined.
GeographyCarrie 20:38 @MrG_ICT: #ukedchat Would like staff meetings where we talk
about children and not OFSTED.
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AnnMroz 20:38@mrlockyer @oldandrewuk I would like to have an adult debate
without smiley faces, thanks #ukedchat
GeographyCarrie 20:38 @BryanPHarrison @eslweb yes, totally agree... Just tweeted myself
about breakfast, but this would be even better! #ukedchat
CanonsOPP 20:39
@eslweb @oldandrewuk Any franchise would vote for selves not for
schools if for Heads. Perhaps more broad representation though.#Ukedchat
cristinataboada 20:39 RT @HilaryNunns: @jon_torbitt too right! Pointless CPD time is the
same as drinking water in a champagne bar #ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:39
@oldandrewuk @s_armitage Computer games = multi-bn
domestic industry with unique IP. Show me another subject that
provides that #ukedchat
eslweb 20:39
#ukedchat Computer games are a hobby. They are clearly MUCH
MORE important than the whole of maths & physics combined. It's
how I got my job
ICTwitz 20:39 This article in the @GuardianEdu got me thinking about traditional
school opening times #ukedchat http://t.co/BZHtJGUk
icpjones 20:39 @MissBex_M #ukedchat If it worked out cheaper...
ethinking 20:39 #ukedchat @mrlockyer @oldandrewuk @annmroz how does one set
about banning a tweeter from a hash tag? Hmmmm #Canute?
oldandrewuk 20:39 @Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat And justifying something
because it features in ECM is worse than justifying it from hobbies.
Monty_Math 20:39 Would also like standard resp to q. Where is your evidence? To be
wheeling out child and sitting them in front of questioner #ukedchat
MichelleDhillon 20:40 @davoloid Beauty is it could also cross media, english, sports. If
learner sees it as more relevant to them the field is wider #ukedchat
GeekPeter 20:40 #ukedchat make sure if staff are being paid / given time / TLR for
responsibilities that they are actually carrying them out effectively!
AnnMroz 20:40
@oldandrewuk Why? Does the place and era invalidate my
experience? #ukedchat
benniekara 20:40
RT @cherrylkd: @benniekara #ukedchat Spot on! As teacher mentors
we give so much time 2 it, should be accredited course. Remove
those who don't want 2do it
ICTwitz 20:40@danielharvey9 Estelle Morris? But she was a teacher in a previous
life!!! #Ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:40@Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat Combining subjects.
SwayGrantham 20:40
@Jon_Torbitt if that's so how does performance management work?
Some teachers need to be told they have to or they won't do it...
#ukedchat
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Anniegottago 20:40 @Jon_Torbitt @hilarynunns there is an inertia that starts with
'making' and then ends with pleasant surprise... #ukedchat
ethinking 20:40#ukedchat @BryanPHarrison @eslweb you can't feed a school. It's a
building. Inanimate #fact
cherrylkd 20:40 @MrG_ICT: #ukedchat Would like staff meetings where we talkabout children and not OFSTED.> Is there such a thing?!
Ann_Litchfield 20:40RT @cherrylkd: @mrlockyer #ukedchat Ofsted should be supportive
and be there for good of pupils' education. It was never meant to be
judgemental or harmful
davoloid 20:41
@oldandrewuk They are a way into maths & physics problems if
written well. Besides, a lot of research into "gamification" now.
#ukedchat
PeterAllen1 20:41 @PositiveCarol I agree, some children just aren't able to work withina mainstream school. Some children need more attention #ukedchat
MissBex_M 20:41 RT @ClasswatchUK: Do you think you could improve your teaching
skills by watching yourself back on video? #UKEduchat #UKedchat
PositiveCarol 20:41
More person centred approach rather than assume children will learn
in "batches" sorted by age rather than development & ability
#Ukedchat
nickotkdIV 20:41#ukedchat Do you think unqualified teachers should be allowed to
teach?
s_armitage 20:41 @oldandrewuk @Jon_Torbitt sorry... disagree. It is THE skill that
employs require. Consider entrepreneurial needs? #ukedchat
MissBex_M 20:41@icpjones haha, ur so right. If its cheaper they'll do it #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:41@eslweb @CanonsOPP #ukedchat I'd definitely prefer that.
Democracy is better than bureaucracy.
ClasswatchUK 20:41 Do you think you could improve your teaching skills by watching
yourself back on video? #UKEduchat #UKedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:41
.@oldandrewuk @s_armitage comp games = planning, analysis,
maths + physics + language skills (translating english into prog lang)#ukedchat
MissBex_M 20:42
@nickotkdIV I asked this yday/ day before - no I don't. Yes as cover
supervisors but not as full time employed classroom teachers
#ukedchat
ethinking 20:42
#ukedchat gaming isnt a subject. It's applied design & engineering-
imposs. without understnding disciplines @Jon_Torbitt
@oldandrewuk
lizdudley 20:42@nickotkdIV Argh.... Goes to bang head against the wall, please go
read my blog!!!! #Ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:42 @Jon_Torbitt @eslweb @CanonsOPP #ukedchat Winning
competitive elections actually takes a bit of skill and understanding.
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eslweb 20:42 @ClasswatchUK @MissBex_M Can and have. #ukedchat It's a very
useful exercise and easy to spot your own mistakes...
nickotkdIV 20:42 #ukedchat Is QTS important to all teachers?
MissBex_M 20:42RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat Do you think unqualified teachers should
be allowed to teach?
Jon_Torbitt 20:42@danielharvey9 @oldandrewuk @s_armitage Not sure i believedemocracy actually exists. all collar environments run by someone
#ukedchat
mrlockyer 20:42
#ukedchat So, magic wand time - what one thing would transform
your teaching? What (apart from Twitter obvs) would you
recommend for CPD?
oldandrewuk 20:43RT @rashush2: @oldandrewuk I ALWAYS smile when you're here!! :-)
#ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:43@CanonsOPP #ukedchat Some are happier with their traditions than
others.
MissBex_M 20:43RT @mrlockyer: #ukedchat So, magic wand time - what one thingwould transform your teaching? What (apart from Twitter obvs)
would you recommend for CPD?
TaffTykeC 20:43 Thoughts?? #ukedchat http://t.co/FS2jX8V8
MissBex_M 20:43RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat Is QTS important to all teachers?
MrsThorne 20:43 @PositiveCarol we've had a lot of success with learning mentors at
school, they do amazing work. Wish we had more #ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:43@SwayGrantham then to be blunt, they're in the wrong place
#ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:43
@MichelleDhillon #ukedchat Maybe some mileage in that. Some ch
are not morning learners, do better later. I'm not taking night shift
tho!
oldandrewuk 20:43@CanonsOPP @eslweb #ukedchat "depoliticise" does just mean
"remove democracy".
ICTwitz 20:43@GeekPeter Are you advocating performance related pay?
#Ukedchat
CanonsOPP 20:44 @oldandrewuk All are happier with their own traditions than others.
They are exclusive clubs by nature. #Ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:44@ethinking @oldandrewuk not teaching gaming, teachingconstruction. not necessarily games - could be APIs, networks (see
@OnLive) #ukedchat
Monty_Math 20:44Big thing to transform teaching - smaller class sizes #ukedchat
jamesdhobsonuk 20:44Education Ministers should be in post for a minimum of three years
(except Gove, who can go now) #ukedchat
MrG_ICT 20:44
#ukedchat Would like to see CPD adopt Teachmeet format. Hate
spending time at one day training that could be summed up in 5 mins
(at most)
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SurrealAnarchy 20:44RT @oldandrewuk: @AnnMroz #ukedchat Only places with ideals
that predate the progressive tradition of the early 20th century which
are the dominant paradigm.
Ann_Litchfield 20:44RT @MrG_ICT: #ukedchat Take politics out of education. Then we
change ed based on research and experienc not on political whim.Run by panel of edu prof
MrsFfriedland 20:44
@SwayGrantham @Jon_Torbitt #ukedchat I taught before obs and
perf. man. It has made no difference whatsoever except paperwork
and iritation
MichelleDhillon 20:44
@davoloid School's Out For Summer but @Rockhaq is example of
music/media/english & social networking education/experience fyi
#ukedchat
CanonsOPP 20:44
@oldandrewuk @jon_torbitt @eslweb That'll be why we have such a
thriving independent group within Parliament and Town Halls.
#Ukedchat
lizdudley 20:44
@nickotkdIV having QTS doesn't magically make you a brilliant
teacher, there are many out there that don't have it and are great
#Ukedchat
eslweb 20:44 @MissBex_M @classwatchuk Yeah, its great to spot those little
mannerisms and also your classroom coverage... #ukedchat
MissBex_M 20:44 @nickotkdIV completely agree!! #ukedchat
Monty_Math 20:45 Other thing for me personally is I feel I need a personal secretary so I
can actually concentrate on teaching #ukedchat
mrlockyer 20:45RT @MrsFfriedland: @SwayGrantham @Jon_Torbitt #ukedchat I
taught before obs and perf. man. It has made no difference
whatsoever except paperwork and iritation
oldandrewuk 20:45 @Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat Because most vocational
subjects are worthless and dumbed-down beyond belief?
PeterAllen1 20:45 @ClasswatchUK definitely! It enables teachers to identify aspects of
their teaching that is maybe highlighted by SMT #ukedchat
HilaryNunns 20:45@anniegottago @jon_torbitt #ukedchat relevance of CPD issubjective but common themes affect us all
rashush2 20:45 @TaffTykeC Ask parents of any elite athlete how much they've spent
on their kid's sport... kit, clothes, travel, tours. #ukedchat
lizdudley 20:45 Magic wand time; give teachers time to get out into other schools/
classes to share good practice, best CPD ever #Ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:45
@s_armitage #ukedchat At degree level. At school level it just means
reducing the demands of individual subjects so as to fit them
together.
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nicoladarling78 20:45 @nickotkdIV #2 ...the profession. There surely has to be another way
so that teachers still retain professionalism. #ukedchat
davoloid 20:46
RT @MichelleDhillon: Schools Out 4 Summer but @Rockhaq is
example of music/media/english & social networking
education/experience #ukedchat
nicoladarling78 20:46 RT @jamesdhobsonuk: Education Ministers should be in post for a
minimum of three years (except Gove, who can go now) #ukedchat
Fatfonzi 20:46RT @oldandrewuk: @AnnMroz #ukedchat Only places with ideals
that predate the progressive tradition of the early 20th century which
are the dominant paradigm.
mrlockyer 20:46
RT @lizdudley: Magic wand time; give teachers time to get out into
other schools/ classes to share good practice, best CPD ever
#Ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:46@SwayGrantham: @Jon_Torbitt I agree but it is more commonto force them to change than to sack themwhat % actually
change?? #ukedchat
SwayGrantham 20:46 @nickotkdIV no he doesn't have a gcse in English yet, you have to be
careful when picking for specific job #ukedchat
s_armitage 20:46@oldandrewuk depends how it is done. Not suggesting entire curric
become trans disciplinary. #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:46
RT @ethinking: #ukedchat @mrlockyer @oldandrewuk @annmroz
how does one set about banning a tweeter from a hash tag?
Hmmmm #Canute?
MichelleDhillon 20:46
@cherrylkd Ha, I knew someone would say that :) Think it's
interesting to 'open the gates'. Def some kids love working later imo
#ukedchat
jamesdhobsonuk 20:46 @Monty_Math
mrlockyer 20:46
RT @MrG_ICT: #ukedchat Would like to see CPD adopt Teachmeet
format. Hate spending time at one day training that could be
summed up in 5 mins (at most)
Jon_Torbitt 20:46RT @MrsFfriedland: @SwayGrantham @Jon_Torbitt #ukedchat I
taught before obs and perf. man. It has made no difference
whatsoever except paperwork and iritation
nicoladarling78 20:47
RT @lizdudley: Magic wand time; give teachers time to get out into
other schools/ classes to share good practice, best CPD ever
#Ukedchat
rashush2 20:47 reduce paperwork to a legal maximum!! #ukedchat
Fatfonzi 20:47Bollox #ukedchat that means its Thursday. Simmer holiday and
Olympic confusion.
Jon_Torbitt 20:47@oldandrewuk @s_armitage IP = intellectual property. stuff we
make #ukedchat
SwayGrantham 20:47@MrsFfriedland so if a teacher didn't mark books you wouldn't
suggest forcing them? #ukedchat
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MrsThorne 20:47 I'd like time to do some real research to improve learning in my
classroom. Sick of always being on the back foot! #ukedchat
GeographyCarrie 20:47
@mrlockyer I like practical cpd where I'm shown new ideas,
activities, techniques and have a chance to try and feedback
#ukedchat
Debsgf 20:47Teachers should be highly regarded Additional qualifications areneeded to be a Lawyer & Doctors. Unqualified diminishes respect.
#Ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:47@Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat Oh. I want them to be
smarter.
MissBex_M 20:47 RT @jamesdhobsonuk: Education Ministers should be in post for a
minimum of three years (except Gove, who can go now) #ukedchat
CanonsOPP 20:47 @lizdudley @nickotkdiv And those have 4 years to get it. If they're
good enough. So why get rid of it? #UkedchatFatfonzi 20:47
RT @rashush2: @oldandrewuk I ALWAYS smile when you're here!! :-)
#ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:47
@nickotkdIV: #ukedchat Do you think unqualified teachers
should be allowed to teach?> In FE maybe, but not in primary or
secondary. No!!!
Jon_Torbitt 20:47
@oldandrewuk @s_armitage not if they are correctly written. Can
be made harder than pretty much any 'short answer paper'
#ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:47 @Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage "IP"? #ukedchat
ICTwitz 20:48 @Debsgf I think too many individuals, as well as politicians, have
helped diminish the status of the professions, sadly! #Ukedchat
eslweb 20:48 @cherrylkd @nickotkdIV I also think that getting QTS is a test of your
commitment to the profession. #ukedchat
rashush2 20:48@cherrylkd What about EYFS? I know plenty of TAs better than the
teachers... #ukedchat
PositiveCarol 20:48 @lizdudley l like the sound of "Magic wand time" sharing best
practice and ideas a very sound idea. #Ukedchat
lizdudley 20:48 @CanonsOPP read my blog post ;-) #UkedchatCanonsOPP 20:48 @oldandrewuk @eslweb No it doesn't. #Ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:48 @AnnMroz #ukedchat Obviously.
Jon_Torbitt 20:48 @oldandrewuk @s_armitage Don't need an exam paper to be
smarter. On that note - define 'smarter' #ukedchat
PeterAllen1 20:49 @PositiveCarol It also helps the parents. It allows the children to
focus on a structured and consistent school/home day #ukedchat
GeographyCarrie 20:49
RT @MrG_ICT: #ukedchat Would like to see CPD adopt Teachmeet
format. Hate spending time at one day training that could besummed up in 5 mins (at most)
CanonsOPP 20:49 @nickotkdIV @lizdudley It already happens. #Ukedchat
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eslweb 20:49 RT @rashush2: Ed Minister needs to have less power - independent
professional body to set policy for long term #ukedchat
SwayGrantham 20:49
@lizdudley @nickotkdiv when getting qts you do have opportunities
for picking up knowledge though and more support like nqt year
#ukedchat
nickotkdIV 20:49 RT @eslweb: @cherrylkd @nickotkdIV I also think that getting QTS is
a test of your commitment to the profession. #ukedchat
mrlockyer 20:49RT @Fatfonzi: Bollox #ukedchat that means its Thursday. Simmer
holiday and Olympic confusion.
rashush2 20:49Ed Minister needs to have less power - independent professional
body to set policy for long term #ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:49@MrsThorne your school improvement team/ rep should facilitate
this with cover etc? #ukedchat
CanonsOPP 20:49 @lizdudley Have done. Agreeing with you. #Ukedchat
StrictTeacher99 20:50 RT @lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, with real
teachers being seconded to be inspectors. #Ukedchat
ukedchat 20:50RT @terecatops: #ukedchat have a more nationally uniformed
approach
HilaryNunns 20:50 @jon_torbitt @anniegottago beats me! I never had CPD that I
wanted and paid for it myself eventually #ukedchat
CanonsOPP 20:50 @nickotkdIV @lizdudley But QTS is nothing other than a recognition
of those skills built through experience. #Ukedchat. It's not PGCE.
SwayGrantham 20:50 @Jon_Torbitt they do it if they told they have to - trouble is some
smt don't force them to its left unquestioned #ukedchat
ukedchat 20:50The poll for #ukedchat next week is now live at
http://t.co/7WAHFPy8
Ann_Litchfield 20:50 RT @jamesdhobsonuk: Education Ministers should be in post for a
minimum of three years (except Gove, who can go now) #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:50
@danielharvey9 @Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat It may not be
the political system of your dreams, but it's preferable to
dictatorship.
cherrylkd 20:50
@nickotkdIV #ukedchat QTS is vital. There is more 2 teaching than
subject knowledge. Need 2 now how ch learn, order 2 teach subj &
behaviour
lizdudley 20:50@CanonsOPP Phew, too tired here and multitasking, Olympics, wine
and ukedchat! #Ukedchat
nicoladarling78 20:50@Monty_Math That would be great. If you find where to get one
please tell me #ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:51
@s_armitage sorry missed ur msg - yep having done pvt sec work +
now teaching, entrepreneurial attitude is vital to succeeding
#ukedchat
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BryanPHarrison 20:51 @ethinking I haven't run a school. Clearly I am a lecturer - by
definition I knw nothing abt teaching & kids #ukedchat
ukedchat 20:51
RT @plestered: #ukedchat agree, but how does constant changing of
direction ever help? Huge structural changes have rarely reap
benefits
rashush2 20:51 RT @lizdudley: Change Ofsted to be a supportive system, with real
teachers being seconded to be inspectors. #Ukedchat #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:51 @Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat So? Did we need some kind of
excuse for teaching maths+physics+languages etc?
Monty_Math 20:51 @SwayGrantham @mrsffriedland but q. Is does forcing really ever
create long term change in teachers performance? #ukedchat
StrictTeacher99 20:51 RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat I'd be tempted to introduce anexchange-style scheme, so all teachers got to spend a year in a
different school every few years.
SwayGrantham 20:51@nickotkdIV I agree but then that's not difficult in my case lol
#ukedchat
MrsThorne 20:51@Jon_Torbitt we had voluntary redundancies this year. There are no
hours to spare, for now at least #ukedchat
ukedchat 20:51 RT @ethinking: @plestered #ukedchat we have had consistent
overall direction for 30 years..only tinkered at the edges until now...
GeographyCarrie 20:51@Debsgf yes, I agree with this... And we've got enough bad press to
fight already #ukedchat
nickotkdIV 20:51RT @cherrylkd: @nickotkdIV #ukedchat QTS is vital. There is more 2
teaching than subject knowledge. Need 2 now how ch learn, order 2
teach subj & behaviour
cherrylkd 20:51@MichelleDhillon #ukedchat And some teachers to be fair are better
later in the day.
DJTom3 20:51RT @ukedchat: The poll for #ukedchat next week is now live at
http://t.co/7WAHFPy8
mrlockyer 20:52
#ukedchat Okay, final thought. Given that if we were EdSec, we'd use
our experience and knowledge, what one thing has helped yourlearning?
cherrylkd 20:52 @rashush2 #ukedchat I agree. But can they plan SoW in correct
learning order and observe correctly. EYFS is slightly diff I admit
CanonsOPP 20:52 @nickotkdIV On one hand to assure quality. On another to ensure
teacher pay & conditions reflex our professional status. #Ukedchat
Jon_Torbitt 20:52
@HilaryNunns @anniegottago explains why i have so many
books/magazines/hrs on the sofa reading / learning all the time AT
HOME #ukedchat
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nickotkdIV 20:52RT @MrsFfriedland: @nickotkdIV #ukedchat non QTS are a real
threat to schools. They often don't understand their limitations or
the mistakes they make.
oldandrewuk 20:52@davoloid #ukedchat Again, we seem to be looking for a way in to
the important by connecting it to the trivial.
ukedchat 20:52RT @vausekatie: #ukedchat abolish the negative notion in schoolswhich judges other teachers. Schls should be supportive of learners &
staff
TheBenHorbury 20:52@ClasswatchUK yes you do massively! It's cringeworthy at first but
you improve so much! #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:52 @s_armitage @Jon_Torbitt #ukedchat None of that matters, if you
are talking about a skill that doesn't exist.
MrsFfriedland 20:52 @nickotkdIV #ukedchat non QTS are a real threat to schools. They
often don't understand their limitations or the mistakes they make.
S_Badejo 20:53
#ukedchat It should compulsory for teachers in FE to gain QTLS just
like there secondary counter parts have QTS. Maintains
professionalism.
oldandrewuk 20:53@Jon_Torbitt @danielharvey9 @s_armitage #ukedchat You may not
appreciate having a vote. I do.
EmmaAbuDhabi 20:53
@GeographyCarrie @mrg_ict I wish staff meetings were
conversations and not lectures, two-way traffic is surely better
#ukedchat
ukedchat 20:53
#ukedchat Okay, final thought. Given that if we were EdSec, we'd use
our experience and knowledge, what one thing has helped your
learning?
SwayGrantham 20:53 @HilaryNunns I feel the same about CPD opportunities - its awful
that we feel we should pay for ourselves #ukedchat
MichelleDhillon 20:53 @cherrylkd That seals it! 24 hour teaching ahoy! Shift working.
Online working too. Lots of cakes. What could go wrong? #ukedchat
s_armitage 20:53 @oldandrewuk @Jon_Torbitt you do post 16 unless you take the IB!
It is maintaining breadth post 16 that seems a key in this. #ukedchat
lizdudley 20:54@S_Badejo It is at the moment, although interim white paper mightbe revoking it... #Ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:54 @nickotkdIV #ukedchat Great minds etc.
DJTom3 20:54 #ukedchat - great to see it trending on twitter ukedchat
eslweb 20:54
If I was Edsec, I'd say that the good kids should be GIVEN the
opportunities and the bad kids sent to bootcamp in the Sahara.
#ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:54@MichelleDhillon #ukedchat Ha Ha. I'm coming to work with you!
TheBenHorbury 20:54
QTS gives us a benchmark, Just like dr's solicitors etc, constant
badgering of our profession has devalued it from the outside!#ukedchat
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SwayGrantham 20:54@nickotkdIV and if they're judged to be competent by their employer
that's their decision #ukedchat
rashush2 20:54how could we set up a GMC type body - would we need a govt
mandate or could we just do it? #ukedchat
nicoladarling78 20:54 @mrlockyer #twitter I've learnt SO much since I joined in discussions
on here and began #blogging with my class! #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:54
RT @ethinking: #ukedchat gaming isnt a subject. It's applied design
& engineering- imposs. without understnding disciplines
@Jon_Torbitt @oldandrewuk
Jon_Torbitt 20:54
@s_armitage @oldandrewuk never taught IB, sounds interesting.
Need recognition of practical work rather than learning answers
#ukedchat
davoloid 20:55
@oldandrewuk Not trivial: different, problem based approach with
targets. Wider than just schools - academia and business too.
#ukedchat
ethinking 20:55 #ukedchat @plestered @ukedchat damaged for ever? Like it is insuch robust health at the moment?
MartindalePaul 20:55
Just do it! :) MT @BryanPHarrison @eslweb The biggest change I
would make to schools is simple. 3 square meals a day. No charge.
#ukedchat
nickotkdIV 20:55RT @cherrylkd: @nickotkdIV #ukedchat Great minds etc.
oldandrewuk 20:55@CanonsOPP @Jon_Torbitt @eslweb #ukedchat Non sequitur there.
Jon_Torbitt 20:56 @HilaryNunns @anniegottago it does seem easier f2f - perhaps more
ad hoc conventions with time off from training budget? #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 20:56@CanonsOPP #ukedchat Have you met liberal Anglicans? Some of
them hate Christianity.
HilaryNunns 20:56@jon_torbitt @anniegottago can't share good practice and
anecdotes unless face to face tho #ukedchat
eslweb 20:56@S_J_Lancaster @ethinking @BryanPHarrison Ego exspectabat latina
#ukedchat
S_Badejo 20:57
#ukedchat In fact there should be some sort of uniformed "status"
across the board for all eduactional sectors. Afterall we are all
teachers
davoloid 20:57 @oldandrewuk Wikipedia article on Gamification explains better: to
encourage desired behaviours, guide through a subject. #ukedchat
Monty_Math 20:57
Biggest thg to help me: lning to respond to chn in my class and make
learning personal to them rthr than worrying abt my teaching
#ukedchat
CanonsOPP 20:57
@oldandrewuk @jon_torbitt @eslweb No it wasn't. If election
winning were about the things you said we would have a thriving...
#Ukedchat
MichelleDhillon 20:57RT @cherrylkd: @MichelleDhillon #ukedchat Ha Ha. I'm coming to
work with you!
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lizdudley 20:58 @S_Badejo Hear hear, why have different letters after our names,
Wolf already recognised that in her report this year. #Ukedchat
SwayGrantham 20:58@wendyJR same here, cost of external cover is expensive #ukedchat
MichelleDhillon 20:58 @cherrylkd @nickotkdIV Awesome! That will be the day! I think this24 hour learning concept is great actually. Born out of #ukedchat
rashush2 20:58Uniforms? Now that's a whole new discussion... #ukedchat
ukedchat 20:58All *relevant* links shared during this #ukedchat session has been
collected at http://t.co/XUB5jSQD
cherrylkd 20:58 @DJTom3 #ukedchat Excellent!
oldandrewuk 20:58
@Jon_Torbitt @s_armitage #ukedchat Hard to define without being
circular, but "exercising more of the intellectual virtues" might cover
it.
oldandrewuk 20:59 @AnnMroz #ukedchat Because I was talking about faith schools as
they are here and now, not elsewhere and decades ago.
oldandrewuk 20:59 @CanonsOPP @eslweb #ukedchat I'm afraid it does. That's the only
part of politics that can ever be removed.
ethinking 21:00 #ukedchat @Debsgf we have created our own disrespect.
http://t.co/GQ9yasuB. Teachers are their own worst enemies.
cherrylkd 21:00 @nickotkdIV @michelledhillon #ukedchat You don't have to do night
shift either Nick. It's a good concept being developed here.
MrsThorne 21:00 @mrlockyer thanks for tonight's #ukedchat - it's interesting to hear
what other educators would do with their magic wands :)
Hubbs05 21:00 #ukedchat our cpd is by pockets of staff who trial+adapt diff practices
then fed to all staff, great inhouse training and talent development
ukedchat 21:00 It's 9pm - HUGE thanks to @mrlockyer for hosting #ukedchat this
evening. The archive will soon be available at http://t.co/f9pp9HjW
mrlockyer 21:00 #ukedchat Many thanks all those who contributed tonight! Hopefully
some butterflies have been released in discussion tonight...
oldandrewuk 21:00@s_armitage @Jon_Torbitt #ukedchat First thing I mentioned in this
discussion was keeping A level.
Jon_Torbitt 21:01
MT @mrlockyer: #ukedchat if we were EdSec, what one thing
has helped your learning?Being treated like an adult & respected
for what i do
ukedchat 21:01The poll for next week's #ukedchat session is now open at
http://t.co/7WAHFPy8
oldandrewuk 21:01 @Jon_Torbitt @danielharvey9 @s_armitage #ukedchat Then please
don't contradict yourself massively from tweet to tweet.
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lizdudley 21:01@mrlockyer thanks for hosting and keeping us on the straight and
narrow this evening! #Ukedchat
MrG_ICT 21:02 @emmaabudhabi Agree re staff meetings better when two-way
traffic. If lessons are a lecture would be unsatifactory #ukedchat
MichelleDhillon 21:02 Great #ukedchat tonight, so easy to get back into the chat after a fewweeks away! Thanks to @mrlockyer for hosting :)
deGency 21:02
RT @oldandrewuk #ukedchat What I'd get rid of: layers of
management, student voice at the expense of colleagues' ...
http://t.co/hWKRPV1w
cherrylkd 21:02@mrlockyer Thanks for a fab chat tonight. Excellent hosting, kept
everyone on track. Well done. #ukedchat
oldandrewuk 21:02@davoloid #ukedchat Problem based learning in schools doesn't
work effectively.
CanonsOPP 21:02
@oldandrewuk @eslweb No. Much of what is currently being done is
politicised and undemocratic. Our democracy is not so perfect.#Ukedchat
oldandrewuk 21:03@CanonsOPP @Jon_Torbitt @eslweb #ukedchat All I said was
winning a competitive election takes skill.
Jon_Torbitt 21:03 worried that am losing sight of why i tuned in to #ukedchat tonight.
Fairly disillusioned tonight. Maybe some olympic sprite will help!
cherrylkd 21:03@MichelleDhillon @nickotkdiv #ukedchat I'm with you! It's a brill
idea. I love it.
MrG_ICT 21:04 RT @cherrylkd: @mrlockyer Thanks for a fab chat tonight. Excellent
hosting, kept everyone on track. Well done. #ukedchat
Monty_Math 21:05
Thank you to @mrlockyer for hosting #ukedchat - if anyone would
like to apply for (unpaid) pos of monty's personal sec - please send
cvs
mrlockyer 21:06 #ukedchat Many thanks those who are sending me kind tweets re
hosting tonight. Didn't *quite* go as I expected it to....!
fi_meta_guide 21:06 #ethinking: ukedchat #plestered #ukedchat Finland is full of Finnish
people doing it the Finnish way - it won't travel here bobsledjamaican
nicoladarling78 21:07 @mrlockyer oooppps distracted by #olympics Thanks for hosting
#ukedchat tonight. Some interesting discussions.
nickotkdIV 21:10 RT @nicoladarling78: @mrlockyer oooppps distracted by #olympics
Thanks for hosting #ukedchat tonight. Some interesting discussions.