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First Name: David

Last Name: Moorefield

Company: n/a

Email: [email protected]

Subject: raw milk regulation

Message:My name is David Moorefield, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. Again, Iview the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected.

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First Name: Britt

Last Name: Wagner

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Subject: Please reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation

Message:My name is Britt Wagner, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. Again, Iview the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected. Thank you for considering this carefully! Respectfully, Britt Wagner

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[email protected], October 05, 2010 9:59 AMIRRCProposed Regulation #2777 Department of Agricultui

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My name is Kay Hackl, I am a raw milk consumer and activist from the State of Illinois and Irespectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: MilkSanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not andcannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transactionand has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliersor markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reachingimpacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs tofocus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler ifthey were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How thatresult is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's rolebeing to test for compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itselfin micromanaging the operation.

Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary.These flaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.

Signed,

Kay Hackl

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[email protected], October 05, 2010 9:56 AMIRRCreject reg #277: Milk Sanitation

OCT 5 2010


My name is Dave Vickery. I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor orlocal market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems havemuch more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be muchsimpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desiredresult. How that result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's.That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function that couldeasily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.

Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous andunnecessary. These flaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.

Sincerely,

Dave VickeryHorsemen Trail Farm

2777Shomper, Kris :<f*.P!M[gQFrom: Brian Roesler [[email protected]]Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:56 AMTo: IRRCSubject: CHANGES TO PENNSYLVANIA RAW MILK REGULATIONS

Dear Sir or Madam:

OCT 5 2010


My name is Brian D. Roesler, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation#2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not needprotection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannotprovide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors butrather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problemshave much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulationneeds to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is theproducers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function thatcould easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.

Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected.

Sincerely,

Brian D. Roesler

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First Name: Douglas

Last Name: Rasmussen

Company: SELF


Subject: regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160

Message:My name is Douglas Rasmussen. I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. Again, Iview the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected. Thank You, Doug Rasmussen

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First Name: Kim

Last Name: Olenderski

Company:

Email: gabby244(g)deiazzd.com

Subject: proposed dairy regulations

Message:My name is Kim Olenderski. I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. Again, Iview the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected. Thank you for taking the time to read and consider my opinions in thisemail. Kim Olenderski Lancaster County, PA

2777Shomper, Kris [R}[p(^F[MEDFrom: Mary Langeron [[email protected]] OCT 5 2010Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:28 PMTo: IRRCSubject: Request to reject proposed regulation #2777 Dept of Agriculture ^^vScoMM?ss foN RY

Dear IRRu,I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department ofAgriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not andcannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and hasdirect enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are nolonger our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Largeroperations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no directmeaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.

Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flawswarrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.

Mary Langeron

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REVIEW COMMISSIONREJECT PROPOSED REGULATION #2777 Dept of Ag 2-160:llirSanIfa!Wrr J

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My name is David J Egge and I am 63 years old. I am a former dairyman and have consumed raw milk for allof my life and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent,discerning and discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not andcannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and hasdirect enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are nolonger our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food saftey is not size neutral. Largercorporations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no directmeaningful recourse it there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.

Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnnecessary. these flawswarrant that the proposed regulation br rejected.

Sincerely,David J. Egge

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Mia Painter [[email protected]]Monday, October 04, 2010 11:17 PMIRRCreject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation

My name is Mia Painter,I am a raw milk consumer in PA and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department ofAgriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation.

I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer. If they provide an unsatisfactoryproduct or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. Where we need governmentinvolvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State.Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts andwe have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Respectfully,Mia Painter499 Vernon StMedia, PA 19063

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My name is Susan LoVette, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor orlocal market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level. State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems havemuch more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be muchsimpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desiredresult. How that result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's. Thatwould result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function that could easilybe contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


Signed

Susan LoVette

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Jeanne Robinson [email protected]]Monday, October 04, 2010 11:14 PMIRRCPlease reject proposed regulation #2777 Dept of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation


My name is Jeanne Robinson, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent,discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. Ifthey provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out ofbusiness quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; everyconsumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we needgovernment involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rathercorporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex,problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if theywere performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result isachieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to testfor compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself inmicromanaging the operation.

Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. Theseflaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.

Thank you for your time,

Jeanne RobinsonSunnyvale, CA

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elaine kocur [[email protected]]Monday, October 04, 2010 11:08 PMIRRCproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation

My name is Elaine Kocur, I am a raw milk consumer and Irespectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection frommy farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem theywill be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer policesthat supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliersor markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations createdby the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations aremore complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we haveno direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulationneeds to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, theregulation could be much simpler if they were performance standards,requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How thatresult is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's.That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than insertingitself in micromanaging the operation.

Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some casesonerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrant that the proposedregulation be rejected.

signedElaine Kocur

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Lisa Olauson [[email protected]]Monday, October 04, 2010 11:01 PMIRRCplease reject proposed #2777

OCT 5 2010

Hello,

My name is Lisa Olauson. I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation.

I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or localmarket or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will beout of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; everyconsumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options.

Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighborsbut rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are morecomplex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse ifthere is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Sincerely,Lisa Olauson

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Nathan J. Rathmell [[email protected]]Monday, October 04, 2010 11:01 PMIRRCProposed Regulation #2777

OCT 5 2010


My name is Nathan Rathmell., I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that youreject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not needprotection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out ofbusiness quickly. At that level. State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has directenforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers ormarkets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Foodsafety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much morefar-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. Theregulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be muchsimpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves adesired result. How that result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not theState's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a functionthat could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging theoperation.

Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous andunnecessary. These flaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.Signed,

Nathan Rathmell

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Marian Davis [[email protected]]Monday, October 04, 2010 11:00 PMIRRC


REJECT PORPOSED REGULATION #2777 Dept of Ag 2-160: Milk Sanitation

October, 4,2010My name is Marian Davis-Egge,

I have been a raw milk consumer all my life and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discerning and discriminatong consumerand do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactoryproduct or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, Stateregulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with everytransaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliersor markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not sizeneutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have nodirect meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producer's responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


Sincerely,Marian Davis-Egge

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JOSEPH BUCARA [email protected]]Monday, October 04, 2010 10:56 PMIRRCProposed Regulation 2777-Rejection


My name is Joseph Bucara, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



SignedJoseph C Bucara1715 Morgan LaneCollegeville, PA 19426

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Tom Petrie [[email protected]]Monday, October 04, 2010 10:54 PMIRRCFw: Proposed regulations

OCT 5 2010


My name is Tom Petrie, and I am a raw milk consumer.

I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: MilkSanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannotprovide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and hasdirect enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or marketsare no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral.Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have nodirect meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler ifthey were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How thatresult is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's rolebeing to test for compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself inmicromanaging the operation.


Cordially,

Tom Petrie

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First Name: Jessica

Last Name: Zwilling

Company:


Subject: Reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160

Message:My name is Jessica Zwillg. I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I have done my homework regarding thesafety of raw milk and have a close relationship to the farmer and cows who provide the raw milk. I do not needprotection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not andcannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and hasdirect enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are nolonger our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Largeroperations are more complex. Their problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no directmeaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations. Dirty livingquarters of the animals produces dirty milk. Local, small farmers that keep clean, healthy animals produceclean, healthy milk. Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be muchsimpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How thatresult is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being totest for compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanagingthe operation. Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary.These flaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected. Thank you for your time.

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First Name: Alison

Last Name: Horowitz

Company:

Email: hwitz(g)verizon.net

Subject: proposed reg. 2777, dept. ag. 2-160

Message:My name is Alison Horowitz, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State, Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. Again, Iview the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected.

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First Name: Aaron

Last Name: Fraser

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Subject: Raw Milk

Message:My name is Aaron Fraser, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. Again, Iview the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected. Sincerely, Aaron Fraser

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First Name: Liz

Last Name: Parsekian

Company:


Subject: Raw Milk Vote

Message:My name is Liz Parsekian, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. Again, Iview the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected. Thank you sincerely, Liz Parsekian

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First Name: Jane

Last Name: Sleutaris

Company:

Email: rickj ane99(Sjhotmail.com

Subject: Milk Regulation Hearing

Message:My name is Jane Sleutaris. I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. Again, Iview the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected. Respectfully, Jane Sleutaris

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, 1NUR^EW"COMMISSWCarolee Bol [[email protected]] ]_ ~-——— ~~Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:29 AMIRRCVote to DISAPPROVE proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160

Dear IRRC,

I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department ofAgriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection frommy farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide ahigher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighborsbut rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex,problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem.The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is theproducers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


Thank you,

Carolee Bol & Scott Rosenberg, parents of Cyrus and Elias

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From: Cochran, Jim [email protected]]Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:31 AMTo: IRRCSubject: Raw Milk Consumer

My name is Jim Cochran, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor orlocal market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does notand cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with everytransaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations createdby the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problemshave much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there isa problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be muchsimpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves adesired result. How that result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's. Thatwould result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function that could easily becontracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


SignedJim Cochran1302 River RoadUpper Black Eddy, PA 18972

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Hunter, Lisa [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:36 AMIRRCI demand raw milk rights

OCT 5 2010


My name is Lisa Hunter I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent,discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market orstore. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they willbe out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longerour neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral Largeroperations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have nodirect meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simplerif they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. Howthat result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in theState's role being to test for compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather thaninserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


SignedLisa Hunter

Sent from my iPhone

Shomper, Kris

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[email protected] [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:40 AMIRRCproposed revised dairy regulations

OCT 5 2010


My name is Alan Greenberg, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation # 2 / / /Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from myfarmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will beout of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices thatsupplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers ormarkets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations aremore complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. Theregulation needs to focus on those larger operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they were performancestandards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not theState's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather thaninserting itself in micromanaging the operation.

Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive and misdirected, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected.

Thank you, Sincerely,

Alan Greenberg

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INDEPENDENT REGULAIUKYREVIEW COMMISSIONBruce Razey [[email protected]]

Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:42 AMIRRCProposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation

My name is Bruce Razey, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that youreject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I aman intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level,State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumerpolices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where weneed government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighborsbut rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Largeroperations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have nodirect meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on thoseoperations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could bemuch simpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achievesa desired result. How that result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not theState's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a functionthat could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging theoperation.


SignedBruce Razey

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First Name: Jennifer

Last Name: Baron

Company:


Subject: milk sanitation

Message:My name is Jennifer Baron, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. Again, Iview the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected. Jennifer Baron Dingmans Ferry, PA

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OCT 5 2010





First Name: Bennie

Last Name: Elrod

Company:


Subject: Raw milk consumption

Message:My name is Bennie Elrod. I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. Again, Iview the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected.

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Jen Reschke [email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:47 AMIRRCREJECT regulation #2777 2-160!

OCT 5 2010


My name is Jennifer Reschke, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Sincerely,Jennifer Reschke

It is not death or dying that is tragic, but rather to have existed without fully participating in life - that is thedeepest personal tragedy.~ Edward Abbey

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Cherl Robartes [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:51 AMIRRCproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160


My name is Cheryl Robartes, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that youreject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor orlocal market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems havemuch more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be muchsimpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desiredresult. How that result is achieved is the producers1 responsibility, not the State's. Thatwould result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function that could easilybe contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


SignedCheryl Robartes

Cooper, Kathy

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Julie Sanford [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:55 AMIRRCDISAPPROVE "proposed regulation > #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160


My name is Julie Sanford, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieve a desired result. How that result is achieved is theproducers1 responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


SignedJulie Sanford

JULIE A. SANFORDRainbow Spectrum Kids, Inc.110 Waverley StreetPalo Alto, CA 94301C: 408.829.8717E: [email protected]

http; //www .rainbo wspectrumkids. com

Cooper, Kathy

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Nina De Santo [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:58 AMIRRCRegulation # 2777 Department or Agriculture 2-160

OCT 5 2010


My name is Nina De Santo, ! am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation#2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation, I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not needprotection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly, At that level, State regulation does not and cannotprovide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors butrather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problemshave much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulationneeds to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is theproducers" responsibility, not the State's, That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function thatcould easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.

Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected,

Health & Happiness........Nina :)

Director of Mentoring and Chapter DevelopmentNatural Living Conference Co-DirectorH o l i s t i c Moms Network National Team^ww.Mto

"Stress is a REACTION, change your reaction and stress will DISAPPEAR!!!

Shomper, Kris

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[email protected], October 05, 2010 9:53 AMIRRCreject reg #277: Milk Sanitation


My name is Mary Ellen Finger. I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that youreject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor orlocal market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level. State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems havemuch more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Sincerely,

Mary Ellen Finger, DVMHorsemen Trail Farm

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Miller, Sarah E.Tuesday, October 05, 2010 10:00 AMIRRCFw: Food safety

OCT 5 2010


From: Irene, Irene Showalter, Showalter [mailto:[email protected]]Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 09:43 AMTo: Miller, Sarah E.Subject: Food safety

Fay , lama raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that youMy name isreject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or localmarket or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problemthey will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide ahigher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has directenforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets areno longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not sizeneutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts andwe have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on thoseoperations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be muchsimpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desiredresult. How that result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would resultin the State's role being to test for compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out,rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary.These flaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.

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From: The Family Cow [[email protected]]Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 10:01 AMTai LRRCSubject: vote to DISAPPROVE "proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160."

My name is Edwin Shank, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent,discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market orstore. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will beout of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longerour neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Largeroperations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no directmeaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler ifthey were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How thatresult is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's rolebeing to test for compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather than insertingitself in micromanaging the operation.


Sincerely,

Edwin Shank

Chambersburg, Pa

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First Name: Pete

Last Name: Berry

Company: na

Email: pberryl [email protected]

Subject: Please eject proposed regulation #2777

Message:My name is Pete Berry, I have been a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. Again, Iview the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected.

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Miller, Sarah E.Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:35 AM1RRCFw: IRRC Website - New Message OCT 5 2010

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First Name: Carol

Last Name: Murphy

Company:


Subject: Milk Sanitation

Message:My name is Carol Murphy, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. Again, Iview the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected. Respectfully yours, Carol Murphy

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Terry E. Greenberg [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:29 AMIRRCRaw milk Issue

OCT 5 2010


My name is Terry Greenberg I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



SignedTerry Greenberg

Terry Greenberg, 293 Evanston Drive, East Windsor NJ 08520

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Laura Cooper [[email protected]] ITuesday, October 05, 2010 9:27 A M / ̂ DEPENDENT RFn „ *IRRC L^wSiSSSf^Proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2^T


My name is Laura Davis. I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor orlocal market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level. State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems havemuch more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Laura DavisTovotaOkieC(5)vahoo. com

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Keith and Veronica Worley [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:26 AMIRRCSay NO to the proposed regulation @#2777.M!

My name is Veronica Worley, I am a raw milk consumer and Irespectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent discriminating consumer and do not need protection frommy farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem theywill be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer policesthat supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliersor markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations createdby the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations aremore complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we haveno direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulationneeds to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, theregulation could be much simpler if they were performance standards,requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How thatresult is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's.That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than insertingitself in micromanaging the operation.

Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some casesonerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrant that the proposedregulation be rejected.

OCT 5 2010


SignedMrs. Veronica Worley

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My name is JOHN Foxton, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



SignedYour NameJohn Foxton

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Johanna Antar [email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:23 AMIRRC .vote to reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160.


I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: MilkSanitation. I am a raw milk activist in my state and I care about this issue because Pennsylvania is amodel raw milk state for the rest of the nation and what happens in Pennsylvania could eventuallyimpact other states.

Consumers do not need protection from farmer-neighbors or local markets or stores. If they providean unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of businessquickly. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer ourneighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Largeroperations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no directmeaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Sincerely,

Johanna Antar

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Mary Serrllli [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:23 AMIRRCIRRC

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My name is Mary Serrilli, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct aproblem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we needgovernment involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reachingimpacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on thoseoperations.



Mary Serrilli

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My name is Andrea Foxton, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request thatyou reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: MilkSanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactoryproduct or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly.At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing;every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has directenforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliersor markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State.Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems havemuch more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there isa problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could bemuch simpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end productachieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is the producers' responsibility,not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself inmicromanaging the operation.


SignedYour NameAndrea Foxton

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Marika Du Rietz [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:21 AMIRRCI vote to DISAPPROVE "proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160."

My name is Marika Du Rietz, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. Iam an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer policesthat supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer ourneighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impactsand we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end productachieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.

Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.

Marika Du RietzLampe, Conway & Co. LLC680 Fifth Avenue - 12th FloorNew York, NY 10019

OCT 5 2010


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Pastor Tanner [email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:41 AMIRRCFW: raw milk regulation change

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From: Pastor Tanner [mailto:[email protected]]Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:39 AMTo: '[email protected]

Subject: raw milk regulation change

Our names are Howard Tanner and Barbara Tanner, We are raw milk consumers and we respectfully request that youreject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. We are intelligent discriminatingconsumers and do not need protection from our farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactoryproduct or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has directenforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer ourneighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are morecomplex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieve a desired result. How that result is achieved is theproducer's responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function thatcould easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.

Again, we view the proposed legislation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrantthat the proposed regulation be rejected.

Sincerely,Howard and Barbara Tanner

Shomper, Kris2777



Rosita N'Dlkwe [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:38 AMIRRCPlease reject proposed regulation #2777 Departmetn of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation

To IRRC members:

I, Rosita N'Dikwe, am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777Department of Agriculture 2=160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct aproblem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we needgovernment involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reachingimpacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on thoseoperations.



Sincerely,Rosita N'Dikwe

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"Don't ask yourself what the world needs; ask yourself what makes you come alive.And then go and do that. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."

- Howard Thurman

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Stephen Burglo [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:38 AMIRRC _ • • • - - — — _ _

vote to DISAPPROVE "proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160.

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My name is Stephen Burgio, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



SignedStephen Burgio

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Ell [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:35 AMIRRC _request that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department oSanitation


160: Milk

My name is Elizabeth Coulter, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



SignedElizabeth Coulter

Shomper, Kris

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Jennifer Voss [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:34 AMIRRCREJECT Proposed Regulation #2777 (DOA 2-160: Milk Sanitation)!


My name is Jennifer Voss, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



REJECT Proposed Regulation #

Signed,Jennifer Voss

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Eric Serrilh [[email protected]]Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:29 AMIRRCreject proposed regulation 2777

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My name is Eric SerrilN, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct aproblem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we needgovernment involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reachingimpacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on thoseoperations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is theproducers1 responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function thatcould easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


Eric [email protected]

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From: Vera Pagano [[email protected]] / *"'OSent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:29 AM / iNDepeNhp*

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Good morning,

My name is Vera Pagano and I live near Pittsburgh, PA. Our family consumes raw milk and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do notneed protection from my dairy farmer friend. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they willbe out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer policesthat supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliersor markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operationsare more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem.The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they were performancestandards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not theState's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather thaninserting itself in micromanaging the operation.

Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in case of the particular dairy farm where we get our milk, it would be onerousand an unnecessary burden. These flaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.

Respectfully,

Vera Pagano

Shomper, Kris

2777OCT 5 2010



Eric Birch [[email protected]]Monday, October 04, 2010 10:46 PMIRRCVote to DISAPPROVE "proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160."

My name is Eric Birch, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation.

My dairy farmer provides me and my family with a high quality product, and I do not need protection from him. Our farmerhas been providing high quality raw milk for over ten years (ten years without a vacation, ten years without a single dayoff). Why would someone be willing to do that? Because he cares about his animals, his cows, and his consumers, just asI am sure the other small raw milk producers across the state do. Because of the quality that I know I can expect from hisraw milk, I see it as my duty to inform as many people as a I can about it. Every week I go to his farm and watch as he fillsup my gallons of milk. I can see the cows, the equipment and the buildings for myself. My kids get to see that milk comesfrom a farmer who lovingly cares for his cows and not a grocery store.

If our farmer provided a sub-standard gallon of milk or failed to fix any deficiency, he would be out of business quickly; hedepends on each individual consumer for his livelyhood. Our farmer cannot hide behind a grocery store refrigerator; he isinspected personally by his customers every week, not to mention the inspections already required by PA law. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level of oversight; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options.

Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have nodirect meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

These regulations would do nothing to improve the quality of the milk our farmer provides my family. However, they arelikely to push him and others like him out of business because of the costs of implementing regulations designed for milkproducers whose customer is a distributor whose customer is a grocery store whose customer is the unknowing public. Iknow my farmer and he knows me, and I pray thai the relationship can continue.


Thank you for your time,

Eric Birch129 Temona Dr.Pleasant Hills, PA 15236(412)650-9491

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To the IRRC.,

My name is Helen Sohne, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation, I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor orlocal market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level. State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems havemuch more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations. Although some regulations onthis latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How thatresult is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result inthe State's role being to test for compliance, a function that could easily be contractedout, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. Again, I view the proposedregulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrant thatthe proposed regulation be rejected.

Sincerely,Helen Sohne

Shomper, Kris2777


Jennifer Bedrick [email protected]]Monday, October 04, 2010 10:44 PMIRRCraw milk regulations

OCT 5 2010


My name is Jennifer Bedrick,I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation#2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent,discriminating consumer and do not needprotection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level.State regulation does not and cannotprovide a higher level policing;every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors butrather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex,problemshave much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulationneeds to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary,the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards,requiring that the end product achieve a desired result. How that result is achieved is theproducers' responsibility,not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance^ function thatcould easily be contracted out,rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.

Again,I view the proposed regulation as excessive,and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flaws warrant thatthe proposed regulation be rejected.

Signed,Jennifer S. Bedrick

Shomper, Kris

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My name is Tammy Taborda, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumerand do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactoryproduct or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulationdoes not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction andhas direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are nolonger our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operationsare more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse ifthere is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is theproducers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a functionthat could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


SignedTammy Taborda

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Kimberly Christensen [[email protected]]Monday, October 04, 2010 10:40 PMIRRCRE: Proposed regulation #2777

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Hello,My name is Kimberly Christensen, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent,discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If theyprovide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly.At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices thatsupplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Foodsafety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impactsand we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on thoseoperations.



Sincerly,Kimberly Christensen

Shomper, Kris

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Caroline Thomas [[email protected]]Monday, October 04, 2010 10:38 PMIRRCProposed Reulation #2777

OCT 5 2010


My name is Caroline Thomas. I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Sincerely,

Caroline Thomas

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Sandra Larson [[email protected]]Monday, October 04, 2010 10:35 PMIRRCPlease Reject proposed Regualtion #2777

To Whom it may Concern,My name is Sandra Larson, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed

regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Sincerely,Sandra Larson

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From: Matt Dunn [[email protected]] PppciurnSent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:31 PM iM/*To: IRRC IRRGSubject: reject #2777 - _ ^

2UQCT-5 A %58My name is Matthew Dunn, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer with a Ph.D. in biology and do not need protection frommy farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product orfail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level.State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer policesthat supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we needgovernment involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors butrather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operationsare more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no directmeaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be muchsimpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desiredresult. How that result is achieved is the producers'responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test forcompliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself inmicromanaging the operation.Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous andunnecessary. These flaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.

Matt Dunn - mdunn(fi)stwing.upenn.edu - http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~mdunn/"Transvestites are a lot like superheroes in that we both have to change before we helppeople, except that we don't help people." - Eddie Izzard

2777Shomper, KrisFrom: Kate Brown [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:31 PMTo: IRRCSubject: proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation

My name is Kate Brown, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correcta problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we needgovernment involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations createdby the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reachingimpacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on thoseoperations.



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From: Michaelanne Boyd [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:30 PMTo: IRRCSubject: DISAPPROVE proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160

My name is Michaelanne Boyd, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent,discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market orstore. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will beout of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer ourneighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Largeroperations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no directmeaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



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From: [email protected] RFPflVrnSent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:30 PM IDbf*To: IRRC m t t ^Subject: REJECT Proposed Regulation #2777 **.* nf>r ^

Hello.

I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department ofAgriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not andcannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and hasdirect enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are nolonger our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Largeroperations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no directmeaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Thank you,Angela Meli

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From: [email protected]: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:26 PMTo: IRRCSubject: reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Mil k Sanitation.

My name is Robert Zellers,I am a raw milk consumer and presently enjoy getting milk from a small dairy that is providingfresh raw milk without the addition cost of automation of operation. That is why I respectfullyrequest that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: MilkSanitation.I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from myfarmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product orfail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing.Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors butrather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex,problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningfol recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could bemuch simpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. Howthat result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role beingto test for compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself inmicromanaging the operation.Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous andunnecessary. These flaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.

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From: Dianella Howarth [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:29 PMTo: IRRCSubject: reject #2777

My name is Dianella Howarth., I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that youreject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and professor of biology and do not need protection frommy farmer-neighbor. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level. State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems havemuch more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be muchsimpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desiredresult. How that result is achieved is the producers1 responsibility, not the State's. Thatwould result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function that could easilybe contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous andunnecessary. These flaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.

Dianella G* Howarth, Ph.D.

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From: saskia roskam [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:25 PMTo: IRRCSubject: regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation

My name is Saskia Roskam, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



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From: Catherine Krtil [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:22 PM RFPfTft/rnTo: IRRC | J » n t D

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My name is Catherine Krtil. I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent,discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market orstore. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will beout of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer ourneighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Largeroperations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no directmeaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler ifthey were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How thatresult is achieved is the producers1 responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's rolebeing to test for compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itselfin micromanaging the operation.


Sincerely,

Catherine Krtilckrtil(5)vahoo.com

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From: Alexander H. Jordan [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:21 PMTo: IRRCSubject: DISAPPROVE Regulation #2777

My name is Alex Jordan, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct aproblem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we needgovernment involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reachingimpacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on thoseoperations.



Regards,Alex

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From: anne Jordan [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:19 PMTo: IRRCSubject: DISAPPROVE Regulation #2777

My name is Anne Jordan, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct aproblem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we needgovernment involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reachingimpacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on thoseoperations.



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From: Chris Jordan [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:18 PMTo: IRRCSubject: PLEASE DISAPPROVE Regulation #2777

My name is Chris Jordan, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct aproblem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we needgovernment involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reachingimpacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on thoseoperations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is theproducers1 responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function thatcould easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


Regards,Chris

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From: Philip Robert [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:18 PMTo: IRRCSubject: Proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160

My name is Philip Robert, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor orlocal market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems havemuch more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



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From: [email protected]: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:18 PM

To: IRRC RECEIVEDCc: Florence Forman; Ed Forman IR|\CSubject: Raw milk issue

2OI0OCT-5 A * 5 bTo whom it may concern:

My name is Kurt Forman; I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation, I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will beout of business quickly. At that levei, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumerpolices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvementis where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have nodirect meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is theproducers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function thatcould easily be contracted out, rather than micromanaging the operation.


Respectfully,

Kurt Forman

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From: Dlna [[email protected]] RECEIVEDSent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:16 PM IRRCTo: IRRCSubject: Proposed Regulation #2777 20I0 OCT ~ 5 A % 5 5

My name is Dina Bartus, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.


Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flawswarrant that the proposed regulation be rejected. Please do not take away my right and ability to consume rawmilk.

Many Thanks,

Dina Bartus

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From: Elizabeth-Anne Ridder Jordan [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:17 PMTo: IRRCSubject: DISAPPROVE Regulation #2777

My name is Elizabeth Jordan, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation#2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not needprotection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannotprovide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors butrather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problemshave much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulationneeds to focus on those operations.



Regards,

Elizabeth

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From: [email protected] RECEIVEDSent: Monday, October 04, 2010 5:03 PM impTo: LRRC l i m U

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My name is Karen Smith,! am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent,discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market orstore. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will beout of business quickly. At that level, Stae regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer ourneighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Largeroperations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no directmeaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler ifthey were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How thatresult is achieved is the producers1 responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's rolebeing to test for compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itselfin micromanaging the operation.Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary.These flaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.

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From: Neil Martin [[email protected]]Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:53 AMTxu 1RRCSubject: vote to DISAPPROVE "proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160."

My name is Neil Martin, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Sincerely,

Neil MartinChambersburg, PA

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From: [email protected]: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:12 PMTo: IRRCSubject: regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation

My name is Lorna Creveling, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that youreject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor orlocal market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level. State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems havemuch more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



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2777Shomper, KrisFrom: Elaine Brown [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:10 PMTo: IRRCSubject: Proposed Regulation #2777

My name is Elaine Brown,- I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that youreject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation.As an intelligent, discriminating consumer, I do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or failto appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; everyconsumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets areno longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. Theregulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could bemuch simpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end productachieve a desired result. How that result is achieved is the producers'responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to testfor compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather than insertingitself in micromanaging the operation.


Sincerely,

Elaine Brown

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From: Corky Sinclair [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:10 PMTo: IRRCSubject: Proposed reg #2777

My name is Wilma Sinclair. I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that youreject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation.I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level,State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level of policing. Every consumerpolicesa supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we needgovernment involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighborsbut rather corporations. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are morecomplex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts, and we have no direct meaningfulrecourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could bemuch simpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achievesa desired result. How that result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not thegovernment's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction thatcould easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself by micromanaging theoperation.


Thank you for your consideration.

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From: Jeannie Lopez [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:06 PMTo: IRRCSubject: RE: proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160

My name is Jeannie Lopez, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor orlocal market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems havemuch more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



SignedJeannie

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From: [email protected] ncr*nx$Ct\Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:04 PM KECtl¥tUTo: IRRC IRRCSubject: raw milk regulations.

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My name is Annmarie Cantrell.I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of

Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not andcannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and hasdirect enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are nolonger our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Largeroperations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no directmeaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Thank you for your time.Annmarie Cantrell

2777Shomper, KrisFrom: Melinda Kohn [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:04 PMTo: IRRCSubject: reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation

My name is Melinda Kohn,, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer- neighbor orlocal market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level., State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State.Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much morefar-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. Theregulation needs to focus on those operations.



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From: Talia Palant [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:59 PMTo: IRRCSubject: Keep raw milk!!!!!!!

My name is Talia Palant, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they providean unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly.At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer policesthat supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need governmentinvolvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporationscreated by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems havemuch more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. Theregulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler ifthey were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How thatresult is achieved is the producers1 responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's rolebeing to test for compliance, a function that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself inmicromanaging the operation.


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From: [email protected] RFPPi\/rnSent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:56 PM IOD)>To: IRRC miil.Subject: Proposed Regulation #2777

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Our names are Dean & Sheri Patrick. We and our five children are raw milk consumers andwe respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture2-160: Milk Sanitation. We are intelligent, discriminating consumers and do not need

protection from our farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out ofbusiness quickly. At that level. State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has directenforcement options.Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer ourneighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral.Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we haveno direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus onl onthose operations.


Again, we view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous andunnecessary. These flaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.

Signed,

Dean & Sheri PatrickDanielNathanMichaelaBenjaminDonovan

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From: Katherine Meyer [kmvt81 @gmail.com]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:59 PMTo: IRRCSubject: Please vote to DISAPPROVE "proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160."

To the Independent Regulatory Review Commission,

My name is Katherine Meyer, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that youreject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation, I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor,local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices those suppliers withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. We need government involvement wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by theState. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems havemuch more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is aproblem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be muchsimpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desiredresult. How that result is achieved is the producers1 responsibility, not the State's. Thatwould result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function that could easilybe contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


Sincerely,Katherine MeyerWarren, VT 05674

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From: Hari Hart [harihart@comcastnet]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:02 PMTo: IRRCSubject: Please reject regulation #2777

My name is Harriet Hart, and I am a PA resident and raw milk consumer. I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level,State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with everytransaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers ormarkets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral.Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no directmeaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is theproducers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a functionthat could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


Signed,Harriet Hart

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Hello,

My name is Dan Kurposka, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor orlocal market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by jthe State. \

Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more jfar-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The jregulation needs to focus on those operations. j

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much jsimpler if there were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a !desired result. How that result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not the |State's. |That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function that could jeasily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation. 1

jAgain, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and junnecessary. These flaws warrant that the proposed regulation be rejected. }

Sincerely, ]Jan Kurposka j

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From: kyle fitzpatrick [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:00 PMTo: IRRCSubject: Regulation #2777

My name is Kyle FitzPatrick, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Sincerly,Kyle FitzPatrick

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From: Lynn [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:58 PMTo: IRRCSubject: proposed regulation #2777

My name is Lynn Cosmos, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you rejectproposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am anintelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer- neighbor orlocal market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriatelycorrect a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level. State regulation doesnot and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier withevery transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement iswhere the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created bythe State.Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much morefar-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. Theregulation needs to focus on those operations.



Sincerely,Lynn Cosmos

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From: [email protected]: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:53 PMTo: IRRCSubject: VOTE TO DISAPPROVE PROSPOSED REGULATION #2777!

My name is Mary O'Donohue. I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation#2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not needprotection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannotprovide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors butrather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problemshave much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulationneeds to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if there wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is theproducers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function thatcould easily be contracted out, rather then inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


Sincerely,Mary G O'Donohue

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From: Amanda Truelove [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:43 PMTo: IRRCSubject: DISAPPROVE proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160

Hello.

My name is Amanda Truelove, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation#2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not needprotection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannotprovide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcementoptions. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors butrather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problemshave much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulationneeds to focus on those operations.



Sincerely,Amanda Truelove

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From: Anne Stewart [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:48 PMTo: IRRCSubject: Proposed regulation #2777

My name is Anne Stewart. I am a physician and a raw milk consumer and I respectfully requestthat you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation.I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level. Stateregulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices thatsupplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need governmentinvolvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rathercorporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations aremore complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no direct meaningfulrecourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Sincerely,Anne Stewart, MD

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From: j [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:45 PM RECEIVED

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..2B0OCT-5 A %H8My name is Julisa Banbanaste, I am a raw milk activist and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



SignedJulisa Banbanaste

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From: MAUREEN GOLDSTEIN [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:44 PMTo: IRRCSubject: Regulation No, 2777 Dept of Agr. 2-160

I adamantly oppose and I urge you to vote to disapprove the proposed regulation No. 2777 Dept. of Agriculture 2-160. Iam a raw milk customer and I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem theywill be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; everyconsumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need governmentinvolvement is where the suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the Sate.Food safety is not size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts andwe have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved is theproducers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the state's role being to test for compliance, a function thatcould easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


SignedMaureen Goldstein

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From: Daniel Polanco [[email protected]] R F P F I v mSent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:43 PM VSDSTo: IRRC m ^Subject: Raw Milk regulations ^ f t m . . „

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To whom it may concern:

My name is Daniel Polanco, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposedregulation #2777 Department of Agriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminatingconsumer and do not need protection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At thatlevel, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplierwith every transaction and has direct enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is wherethe suppliers or markets are no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety isnot size neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and wehave no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.



Sincerely,

Daniel Polanco

2777Shomper, Kris

From: Lavinia Mosher [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:43 PMTo: IRRCSubject: Request to reject proposed reg #2777 DoA 2-160: Milk Sanitation

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that you reject proposed regulation #2777 Department ofAgriculture 2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not need protectionfrom my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide an unsatisfactory product or fail toappropriately correct a problem they will be out of business quickly. At that level, State regulation does not andcannot provide a higher level policing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and hasdirect enforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or markets are nolonger our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is not size neutral. Largeroperations are more complex, problems have much more far-reaching impacts and we have no directmeaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulation needs to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be much simpler if they wereperformance standards, requiring that the end product achieves a desired result. How that result is achieved isthe producers' responsibility, not the State's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, afunction that could easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.Again, I view the proposed regulation as excessive, and in some cases onerous and unnecessary. These flawswarrant that the proposed regulation be rejected.

Respectfully,Lavinia KMosher925 Circle Dr SEVienna VA 22180

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2777Shomper, Kris

From: Sail-Ling Michael [[email protected]]Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:42 PMTo: IRRCSubject: disaaprove of proposed reg. #2777

My name is Sai-Ling Michael, I am a raw milk consumer and I respectfully request that youreject proposed regulation #2777 Department of Agriculture2-160: Milk Sanitation. I am an intelligent, discriminating consumer and do not needprotection from my farmer-neighbor or local market or store. If they provide anunsatisfactory product or fail to appropriately correct a problem they will be out ofbusiness quickly. At that level, State regulation does not and cannot provide a higher levelpolicing; every consumer polices that supplier with every transaction and has directenforcement options. Where we need government involvement is where the suppliers or marketsare no longer our neighbors but rather corporations created by the State. Food safety is notsize neutral. Larger operations are more complex, problems have much more far-reachingimpacts and we have no direct meaningful recourse if there is a problem. The regulationneeds to focus on those operations.

Although some regulations on this latter group are necessary, the regulation could be muchsimpler if they were performance standards, requiring that the end product achieves adesired result. How that result is achieved is the producers' responsibility, not theState's. That would result in the State's role being to test for compliance, a function thatcould easily be contracted out, rather than inserting itself in micromanaging the operation.


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