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SHANNON L. TAYLOR, CCR, CSR, RMR

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TRANSCRIPT OF A MEETING

OF THE

STATE OF NEVADA

PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS LICENSING BOARD

Thursday, December 13, 2018

9:00 a.m.

Northern Nevada Location:

Office of the Attorney General

100 North Carson Street

Mock Court Room

Carson City, Nevada

Southern Nevada Location (Videoconferenced):

Grant Sawyer State Office Building

555 East Washington Avenue

Attorney General Conference Room, Suite 4500

Las Vegas, Nevada

REPORTED BY: SHANNON L. TAYLOR, CCR, CSR, RMR

Certified Court, Shorthand and Registered Merit Reporter

Nevada CCR #322, California CSR #8753, Idaho CSR #485

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PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS LICENSING BOARD MEETING, 12-13-18


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A P P E A R A N C E S

Board Members Present:

Jim Nadeau, Chairman (Carson City)

Jim Colbert (Carson City)

Raymond Flynn (Las Vegas)

Tammy Nixon (Las Vegas)

Robert Gronauer (Las Vegas)

Also: Kevin Ingram (Las Vegas)

Executive Director

Rosalie Bordelove (Las Vegas)

Deputy Attorney General

Board Counsel

Lori Irizarry (Las Vegas)

Chief of Operations

Gisela Corral (Las Vegas)

Licensing Specialist

Vincent Saladino (Las Vegas)

Supervising Investigator

Shelly Donald (Las Vegas)

Investigator

Paul Maxwell (Las Vegas)

Investigator

Zachary Swarthout (Las Vegas)

Investigator

Shawn Mahan (Carson City)

Investigator

Mary Klemme (Carson City)

Office Manager

(continued...)



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Other Participants:

Mark Zane (Las Vegas)

Lianne Charton-Holder (Las Vegas)

Heather M. Holdridge (Carson City)

Amanda L. Meredith (Las Vegas)

Marcus A. Capone (Las Vegas)

Lisa I. Povill (Las Vegas)

Andrew L. Wickerham (Las Vegas)

Tony R. Whiddon (Las Vegas)

Christopher U. Fleury (Las Vegas)

Todd A. Pattison (Las Vegas)

Patrick J. Hurley (Las Vegas)

Michael A. Yonker (Carson City)

William R. Thomas (Las Vegas)

Rebecca D. Godwin (Las Vegas)

Johnny R. Soto (Las Vegas)

Jeremiah Baechler (Las Vegas)

Jacara L. Fincher (Las Vegas)

Aaron Jackson (Las Vegas)

Cameron L. Lyles (Las Vegas)

Terry L. Moses (Las Vegas)

Michael E. Stanley (Las Vegas)

Joey L. Wells (Las Vegas)

Alfredo Y. Esteban (Las Vegas)

Jaime Garcia-Mendoza (Las Vegas)

Dale A. Imbriani (Las Vegas)

Markus Moore (Carson City)

Albert Nava (Las Vegas)

Christopher Thomas (Las Vegas)

Latrice Wilson (Las Vegas)

Meisha Hester (Las Vegas)

Dallas Roe (Las Vegas)

Susan Swanson (Las Vegas)

Robert Scott (Las Vegas)

Jesse Booth and wife (Las Vegas)

Lawrence Divetro (Las Vegas)

Tonika Garrett (Las Vegas)

Nunzio Guadagni (Las Vegas)

Christopher Kearney and wife (Las Vegas)

Joe Perez (Carson City)

Corey Powns (Las Vegas)

Barry Williams (Las Vegas)

Charles Yates (Las Vegas)



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I N D E X

ITEM PAGE

1. Roll Call of Board Members 14

2. Public Comment 14

3. Board/Executive Director Announcements,

Reports and Updates 15

4. Review and approve transcripts from

September 10, 2018 Board meeting

"for possible action" 17

5. All applicants and witnesses to be sworn in 44

CORPORATE OFFICER

6. CoreCivic, Inc., license number 2135 is

seeking Corporate Officer status approval for

Cole G. Carter. This is subject to all

statutory and regulatory requirements.


7. AppFolio, Inc., license number 1691 is

seeking Corporate Officer approval for

Clifford C. Carlson, Ida K. Kane and Jason R.

Randall. This is subject to all statutory

and regulatory requirements.


8. Sedgwick SIU, Inc., license number 1658 is


Kimberly D. Brown-Carlisle. This is subject

to all statutory and regulatory requirements.


9. Fire Cause Analysis, license number 753 is


Karen T. Peak. This is subject to all



CHANGE OF LICENSING STATUS - QUALIFYING AGENT, NEW CORP

10. Protective Force International, LLC, dba,

Protective Force International is applying for

a new Private Investigator and Private



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Patrolman License. If approved, Jonathan G.

Alvarez, license number 2665 is requesting

that his individual licenses be kept in

abeyance so that he may become the qualifying

agent. Members to be approved are Jonathan G.

Alvarez and Andre D. Scott. This is subject



11. Armored Empire, LLC, dba, Armored Empire

Security is applying for a new Private

Patrolman license. If approved, Mena Boktor,

license number 2650 is requesting that his

individual license be placed into abeyance so

that he may become the qualifying agent. This

is subject to all statutory and regulatory

requirements. "for possible action" 44

12. Omega Executive Protection, LLC is applying

for a new Private Patrolman license. If

approved, William C. Walden, license number

2198 is requesting that his individual license

be kept into abeyance so that he may become

the qualifying agent. Member to be approved

is William C. Walden. This is subject to all



13. Admiral Security Services, Inc. is applying

for a new Private Patrolman license. If

approved, Robert Holland is requesting to

transfer his qualifying agent status from

Cambridge Security Services, Inc., license

number 1773 to Admiral Security Services, Inc.

Corporate Officer to be approved is Mohamed

Ahmed. This is subject to all statutory and

regulatory requirements. 44


CHANGE OF LICENSING STATUS - QUALIFYING AGENT, EXISTING

CORP

14. Darryl A. Kelley is requesting a change of

licensing status. Mr. Kelley is requesting

that his individual license, license number

1921 be kept in abeyance so that he may become

the qualifying agent for Chenega Infinity, LLC,

license number 2289. Member to be approved is

Robert L. Cox. This is subject to all



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15. Angeline Walker is requesting a change of

licensing status. Ms. Walker is requesting that

her individual license, license number 2668 be

kept in abeyance so that she may become the

qualifying agent for Specialized Attorney

Services, Inc., license number 2627. This is

subject to all statutory and regulatory


PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR

16. Kelley Investigations, Inc. is applying for a

new corporate Private Investigator license.

Ted N. Kelley III is applying for an individual

Private Investigator license. If approved, he

is requesting that his individual license be

placed into abeyance so that he may become the

qualifying agent. Corporate Officer to be

approved is Ted N. Kelley III. This is subject



17. AccuSource, Inc. is applying for a new

corporate Private Investigator license. Lianne

Charton-Holder is applying for an individual

license. If approved, she is requesting that

her individual license be placed into abeyance

so that she may become the qualifying agent.

Corporate Officer to be approved is Lisa M.

Holder. This is subject to all statutory and

regulatory requirements. "for possible

action" 49

18. Brand Security Corporation is applying for a

new corporate Private Investigator license.

Heather M. Holdridge is applying for an

individual Private Investigator license. If

approved, she is requesting that her individual

license be placed into abeyance so that she may

become the qualifying agent. Corporate Officer

to be approved is Heather M. Holdridge. This

is subject to all statutory and regulatory


19. Amanda L. Meredith is applying for an individual

Private Investigator license. If approved, she



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is requesting that her individual license be

placed into abeyance so that she may become

the qualifying agent for AccuSearch, Inc.,

license number 1677. This is subject to all



PRIVATE PATROLMAN

20. Onyxcts, LLC is applying for a new corporate

Private Patrolman license. Marcus A. Capone is

applying for an individual Private Patrolman

license. If approved, he is requesting that

his individual license be placed into abeyance

so that he may become the qualifying agent.

Members to be approved are Gregory K. Miller

and Jon J. Ricker. This is subject to all



21. CA Casino Property ! LLC is applying for a new

corporate Private Patrolman license. Lisa I.

Povill is applying for an individual Private

Patrolman license. If approved, she is

requesting that her individual license be

placed into abeyance so that she may become


is Nigel F. White. This is subject to all



22. Tactical Protection Agency, LLC is applying for

a new corporate Private Patrolman license.

Andrew L. Wickerham is applying for an

individual Private Patrolman license. If

approved, he is requesting that his individual

license be placed into abeyance so that he may

become the qualifying agent. Corporate Officer

to be approved is Kyonghun Lee. This is

subject to all statutory and regulatory


23. T.A.C. Protective Services, LLC is applying for

a new corporate Private Patrolman license.

Tony R. Whiddon is applying for an individual

Private Patrolman license. If approved, he is

requesting that his individual license be


qualifying agent. This is subject to all



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24. SWATA, LLC is applying for a new corporate

Private Patrolman license. Christopher U.

Fleury is applying for an individual Private

Patrolman license. If approved, he is


placed into abeyance so that he may become


is Christopher U. Fleury. This is subject to

all statutory and regulatory requirements.


25. CDA Incorporated is applying for a new

corporate Private Patrolman license. Todd A.

Pattison is applying for an individual Private




qualifying agent. This is subject to all



26. Beau Security & Investigations, Inc. is

applying for a new corporate Private Patrolman

license. Patrick J. Hurley is applying for an


approved, he is requesting that his individual

license be placed into abeyance so that he may

become the qualifying agent. Corporate Officers

to be approved are Richard Dietl and Gioacchino

Viola. This is subject to all statutory and


action" 75

27. Strategic Security Corp. is applying for a new

corporate Private Patrolman license. Michael A.

Yonker is applying for an individual Private




qualifying agent. Corporate Officers to be

approved are Christie L. Sordi and Joseph C.

Sordi. This is subject to all statutory and


action" 78



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28. William R. Thomas is applying for an individual

Private Patrolman license. If approved, he is



qualifying agent for Thomas Protect Service,

Inc, license number 1309. This is subject to



29. Maximus Universal Protection, LLC is applying

for a new corporate Private Patrolman license.

Rusty B.K.K. Iokia is applying for an


approved, he is requesting to place his

individual into abeyance so that he may become

the qualifying agent. Member to be approved is

Maximino Baltazar Benitez. This is subject to



PROCESS SERVER

30. Rebecca D. Godwin is applying for an individual

Process Server license. This is subject to all



31. Johnny R. Soto is applying for an individual

Process Server license. This is subject to all



PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR AND PROCESS SERVER

32. Baechler Investigative Services, Inc. is

applying for a new corporate Private

Investigator and Process Server license.

Jeremiah Baechler is applying for an individual

Private Investigator and Process Server license.

If approved, he is requesting that his

individual licenses be placed into abeyance so

that he may become the qualifying agent.

Corporate Officer to be approved is Jeremiah

Baechler. This is subject to all statutory





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REGISTRATION APPEALS

33. Artice O. Barlow applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Barlow is appealing the

decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648. 112


34. Grefford G. Dixon applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Dixon is appealing the



35. Jacara L. Fincher applied for registration and

was denied. Ms. Fincher is appealing the

decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.


36. Jovani S. Fulton applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Fulton is appealing the



37. Cameron L. Lyles applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Lyles is appealing the



38. Terry L. Moses applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Moses is appealing the decision to

the Board pursuant to NRS 648.


39. Lisa R. Priola applied for registration and was

denied. Ms. Priola is appealing the decision

to the Board pursuant to NRS 648. 137


40. Charles A. Reynolds applied for registration

and was denied. Mr. Reynolds is appealing the



41. Michael E. Stanley applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Stanley is appealing the





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42. Joey L. Wells applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Wells is appealing the decision

to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.


43. Bruce A. Willis applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Willis is appealing the



44. Alfredo Y. Esteban applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Esteban is appealing the



45. Jaime Garcia-Mendoza applied for registration

and was denied. Mr. Garcia-Mendoza is

appealing the decision to the Board pursuant

to NRS 648. "for possible action" 156

46. Dale A. Imbriani applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Imbriani is appealing the



47. Markus Moore applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Moore is appealing the decision



48. Albert Nava applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Nava is appealing the decision



49. Christopher Thomas applied for registration

and was denied. Mr. Thomas is appealing the



50. Latrice Wilson applied for registration and

was denied. Ms. Wilson is appealing the



51. Bryant Allen applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Allen is appealing the decision





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52. Gerald Bailey applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Bailey is appealing the decision



53. Meisha Hester applied for registration and was

denied. Ms. Hester is appealing the decision



54. Dallas Roe applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Roe is appealing the decision to

the Board pursuant to NRS 648.


55. Robert Scott applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Scott is appealing the decision



56. Annetta Alvarez applied for registration and

was denied. Ms. Alvarez is appealing the



57. Jesse Booth applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Booth is appealing the decision



58. Lawrence Divetro applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Divetro is appealing the



59. Mary Tolliver Foster applied for registration

and was denied. Ms. Tolliver Foster is

appealing the decision to the Board pursuant 236

to NRS 648. "for possible action" 265

60. Tonika Garrett applied for registration and

was denied. Ms. Garrett is appealing the



61. Nunzio Guadagni applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Guadagni is appealing the





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62. Sidney Harvey applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Harvey is appealing the



63. Aaron Jackson applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Jackson is appealing the decision



64. Christopher Kearney applied for registration

and was denied. Mr. Kearney is appealing the



65. Joe Perez applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Perez is appealing the decision



66. Corey Powns applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Powns is appealing the decision



67. Lui Taulua applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Taulua is appealing the decision



68. Barry Williams applied for registration and

was denied. Mr. Harvey is appealing the



69. Charles Yates applied for registration and was

denied. Mr. Yates is appealing the decision



OTHER BUSINESS

70. Board Comment and future agenda items 267

71. Public Comment 267

72. Adjournment "for possible action" 268



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CARSON CITY, NEVADA, THURSDAY, DECEMBER 13, 2018,

9:00 A.M.

-oOo-

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I'll call this meeting

of the Private Investigators Licensing Board to order.

Today is December 13th.

We'll start with having, number one, a roll

call of Board members.

MR. INGRAM: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Board Member Colbert?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Here.

MR. INGRAM: Board Member Flynn?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Here.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Board Member Gronauer?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Present.

MR. INGRAM: Board Member Nixon?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Here.

MR. INGRAM: And Chairman Nadeau?

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Here.

Very good. Welcome.

So we'll go with item number two, public

comment. We have two, for the public, we have two

opportunities for the public to comment on items not

necessarily on the agenda. There's a limitation of five

minutes per person. And the comments must be directed



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to the Board. Additionally, the second public comment

will be at the end of the meeting.

So do we have anyone with public comment?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: None down south.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Nothing down south.

Nothing north.

Then, let's start with item number three, and

we'll go with Board and Executive Director

announcements, reports and updates. Let's start with

Director Ingram.

MR. INGRAM: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I've provided the financials to the Board

members. If you have any questions about the

financials, I'd be happy to answer those questions.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: It looks to me like the

financials, we're in pretty good shape right now.

MR. INGRAM: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And we're, what, about

40 percent -- no. About, what, 25, 30 percent

through -- what, 40 percent through the budget?

MR. INGRAM: That's correct, a little bit over

40 percent. We're about 30 percent as far as our

standings. So we're looking good, in good shape.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. All right. Very

good.



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Any of the Board members have any comments?

Questions?

Okay. Kevin, continue.

MR. INGRAM: Okay. The next item, Mr. Nadeau,

I believe, you have a presentation you'd like to make.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Sure. Is former Board

member Mark Zane in the audience?

MR. INGRAM: Yes, he is. He's coming forward,

sir.

MR. ZANE: Good morning, Mr. Chairman.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Good morning, Mark.

It's my pleasure to recognize your time on the PILB

Board. Though specifically representing private

investigators, your work in the area of private patrol,

repossession and process serving brought a vast array of

experience and expertise to the Board. And during your

tenure as chairman, you provided insight to the various

aspects as practitioners, but also brought humanity,

empathy and understanding for those working in the

field. This always impressed me.

So I truly thank you for your time and

commitment to the industry and to the PILB.

MR. ZANE: Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

I'd like to thank the current Board and the staff,

present and gone, for assisting me and meeting the



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conflicts of those things that you give me accolades

for. Because without all of that, including Mr. Ingram

especially, that wouldn't have been such a good speech

you just gave.

MR. INGRAM: So, Mark, on behalf of the Private

Investigators Licensing Board, we'd like to award you

with this retirement plaque from the Board. It says

"Mark Zane, Board Chair, Private Investigators Licensing

Board: In recognition and sincere appreciation of your

distinguished service from October 2009 through June

2018. Congratulations and best wishes on your

retirement from the Board."

(Applause.)

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Thanks again, Mark.

Okay. So review and approval or approve

transcripts from the September 10th, 2018 Board meeting.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Ray Flynn. I'd move to

approve.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: We have a motion to

approve. Do we have a second?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Second.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Second by Board Member

Colbert.

All right. Is there any discussion on the

minutes, or on the transcripts?



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Seeing none, all in favor of the motion,

signify by saying "aye."

(Board members said "aye.")

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Opposed, "nay."

It passes unanimously. And I'm not going to

use the gavel on every one of these things.

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chair, if I may, Kevin Ingram,

for the record. I do have a couple of points that I'd

like to share under item number three, if possible.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Yeah, let's go back to

item number three, because I got moving and forgot that

you did have an item you wanted to point out. Thank

you.

MR. INGRAM: Thank you, sir.

So what we are going to start doing at every

Board meeting is give the Board and those in attendance

a breakdown of the audits, the number of work cards, the

number of applicants, so that the Board and those in the

audience can see what Board staff takes care of during

the quarters.

So I've provided an additional handout to the

Board this morning. And if you take a look at the nice

little graphs that Chief Irizarry put together for you

here, I'll kind of walk through that so that we can get

it on the record.



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In the time frame of September 1st through

November 30th of this year, our staff processed 2,134

work card applications. Of those work card

applications, 1,478 are now active. 37 were denied.

And all 37 have appealed. 95 are in pending status.

And pending status could be anyone that's awaiting to be

made provisional. It could be because we're missing

information, or we have an incomplete app, or that, you

know, it takes a little bit more of a background to get

them cleared, maybe we're waiting on court documents.

So there are 95 currently pending.

There are 483 in a provisional status.

Provisional status just, basically, means that we have

not received the fingerprints back from the Nevada

Criminal Repository and the FBI. Once we receive those

back, they will either be cleared for an active card or

possibly denied based on criminal history. And of those

cards, 41 were withdrawn. And that can be at the

request of the applicant. Or it could be we've waited

beyond the 30 days to gather additional information from

them, and did not receive it, so they were withdrawn.

Are there any questions about the work cards

before I go to the next page?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: No.

MR. INGRAM: Hearing none, I'll go ahead and go



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forward. On the back side of the page, you'll see the

same time frame. We received a total of 14 corporate

applications for licensure. Of the 14 corporate

applications, we approved 13. The one that was not

approved was a failure to meet the minimum

qualifications.

We received 36 individual applications. And

you can see the breakdown, as far as the categories that

we received them in. Canine, we received three.

Private investigator, we received 11. Private patrol,

we received 19. Process servers, we received two.

Repossessors, we received one. And all but one of those

applications was approved. There was a private patrol

officer that was aligning himself with that same

corporation that was denied who did not meet the minimum

qualifications, so that one was denied.

As far as the complaints, there were 15 total

complaints received by the Board. Now, these complaints

are over and above unlicensed activity complaints. So

these are complaints on license holders. We received a

total of 15, ranging from failure to pay employees

correctly, working without registered work cards,

insurance lapsing or -- and there were a couple that

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All of the complaints were satisfied, and we

did not write any citations of the licensees based on

the outcome. There were five that were referred over to

the Nevada Labor Commission for some payroll issues.

All of those are currently being resolved or have been

resolved. So no citations have been issued for that.

The one complaint that went to EEOC was really not under

our jurisdiction, and so the EEOC picked that up.

We had two of them that were complaints that

were not justified. I'll give you the example of one of

them. We had a complaint against a security company

working without a license. And when we investigated, it

was an employee of the 7-Eleven. And 7-Eleven was

employing them as a security officer. And as you know,

a bona fide employee of a company does not have to be

licensed with us. So two of those were nonjustified.

And then the last one was pending with the City

of Las Vegas. The City of Las Vegas had -- there was

violations of the city code, not Chapter 648. And the

city's taken care of that.

Right now, on all of our complaints, when they

come in, we have approximately one-week turnaround on

finalizing the investigations, with the exception of

some ongoing investigations that we are working directly

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law enforcement agencies who have taken a lead on it.

And then we also have the federal government involved in

a couple of the investigations that we're doing. So

they take the lead on that. Once a decision's made,

then we'll be able to bring those before the Board, if

need be.

As far as the unlicensed activity citations, we

issued 10 during this quarter. Four of the 10 have been

paid in full. One of the citations has been sent to the

Controller's Office for failure to pay, and it is

currently in collections. And we have five citations

that are still within the 30-day appeal process.

I'd answer any questions with the Board may

have.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Do any members of the

Board have any questions?


BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yeah. This is Ray Flynn.

Kevin, is it possible for us to, for you guys

to produce a year-end now, or would that be something

that would be easier going forward?

MR. INGRAM: Going forward.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay.

MR. INGRAM: Correct. The old database doesn't

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that we're now capturing in our new database.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: M-hm (affirmative).

MR. INGRAM: So I can do my best to maybe throw

some numbers together. But, I think, going forward

would be the most accurate presentation of where we are.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Then, Mr. Chair, I would

ask that in the -- I'd really like that report, because

it's a good overview of the activity of the PILB. And I

would ask that that be part of our regular meetings, a

quarterly report out.

But I'd also like to see, if it's okay with

you, a year-end report also, going forward.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I agree with you, Board

Member Flynn. I think, this is really good data for us

to really get a perspective on what's going on as far as

unlicensed activity and all of the other things.

Kevin, I did have a question. What's the

normal turnaround on your unlicensed activity citations,

or do you -- I know you have some that are within the

30-day appeal process. But what's the normal turnaround

on this?

MR. INGRAM: Well, the minute that we receive a

complaint, we open an investigation in our new database.

And it's assigned to Supervising Investigator Vincent

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investigator to go ahead and start gathering the data.

Obviously, we have Investigator Mahan there in the north

that we have assigned a couple to. He's done a

fantastic job following up on those. And then in the

south.

General turnaround, as far as gathering

information, is anywhere from, what, one to three weeks,

Vinny?

MR. SALADINO: (Nodded head.)

MR. INGRAM: So about one to three weeks on the

fact-gathering, depending on how complicated it is. As

I said, some of the investigations uncover criminal

violations. And at that time, we involve the

appropriate authorities for that.

As far as closure of the investigation, it

could be as quickly as one day. Or, as I've said, we

have some that just came in yesterday, as a matter of

fact, that have not been assigned yet. And a couple of

them look like it might take months to complete the

investigation, based on a cursory review.

But general turnaround, as long as we have all

the information, is approximately one week.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Good. Thank

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Seeing none, Kevin, would you mind introducing

the PILB staff.

MR. INGRAM: Absolutely. I would love to do

that. Thank you.

To my left is Board Counsel Rosalie Bordelove.

She's been our Board Counsel for quite a while now. And

we have a really good working relationship with her and

her staff. Directly to her left is Supervising

Investigator Vincent Saladino. To his left is our Chief

of Operations, my number one, Lori Irizarry. Directly

to her left is Zachary Swarthout. He's one of our

investigators. Directly to his left is Shelly Donald,

Investigator. Directly to her left is Paul Maxwell, an

Investigator with us. And directly to his left is

Gisela Corral, and she is our Licensing Specialist.

And there directly behind you, to your left on

the screen, or to your right, is Investigator Shawn

Mahan. And to his right is Mary Klemme. She's our

northern Office Manager.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Thank you. Thank you

very much.

MR. INGRAM: And directly in front of you,

also, is our court reporter, Ms. Shannon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Great. Thank you.

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All right. At this --


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: At this point, let's go

to item number five, and that will all applicants and

witnesses to be sworn in.

So if you are planning to --

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chair, do you want us to go

ahead and give a overview our new website?

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Sure, why not.

MR. INGRAM: Okay. I know we had briefly

talked about this. And, I guess, I didn't want to get

too far into the agenda.

So while Lori's coming up and getting the

computer set up to give you the overview of our new

website, I think, Mr. Flynn, Board Member Flynn had

something he wanted to discuss.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Sure. I just want to let

you know that during the last quarter, I attended the

International Association of Security Regulators

Conference in Scottsdale. It's something that Kevin

made mention he's been actively involved with this

association for years. He was the current -- was the

president. He served out his term. And I'd asked over

a year ago the ability to go to observe what happens at

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budget.

It was two days long, and it was definitely

well worth my time. There was not one session or a

breakout session that I did not learn something from,

everything from the history of regulating authorities to

policies and procedures that are commonplace throughout

not only our nation, but also other countries. I had a

great conversation with a representative from Canada, a

lot of shared interests.

The other thing that I really enjoyed was

interacting with the members of the security industry.

I'm one of the two Board members that are a citizen

at-large. And so I never worked in the security

industry. So it was really interesting to understand

their perspective and how they view regulations and,

also, the process of grading the regulations.

So I highly encourage Kevin to continue to try

to get funding for this, and encourage other members of

the Board. If we could have send one every year -- they

have an annual conference -- that would be great. And

if nobody wants to go, I'd volunteer to go to the next

one. That's how well worth it was to me. So.

MR. INGRAM: To add to that, we just had a

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president, and we just approved a new membership for

South Africa. And we have members from the United

Emirates, India, eight provinces in Canada, the National

Council in France. So we truly are an international

association. And the sharing of information has been

phenomenal and has helped me to be successful in my

position.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So, and where is the

next conference next year?

MR. INGRAM: Right now, there's three areas

that are being considered: Washington D.C.; California,

here on the west coast; and, also, Canada, for the next

conference. It'll be held either October or November.

We're working out the details. Our theme for this

conference is going to be everything security and

investigative related to the cannabis industry and how

it's taken the states and countries by storm.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Very good. Now I can

understand why Ray volunteered to go to the next one, if

it's in Canada. All right. Very good.

MR. INGRAM: And at this time, I think, we're

ready for the presentation from Ms. Irizarry if you

don't have any other questions.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: No, let's go ahead and

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MS. IRIZARRY: Good morning. My name's Lori

Irizarry, Chief of Operations.

I was asked to do a brief presentation on our

new website. It's been up and running for a few months

now, probably about six or so months. But we haven't

actually --

(The Reporter indicated it's difficult to hear

Las Vegas.)

MS. IRIZARRY: Okay. I was asked to give a

brief presentation on our new website, go over with you

on what our new witness looks like.

Am I talking too fast, Shannon?

(There was a brief discussion with the Reporter

regarding an inability to completely hear Las Vegas.)

MS. IRIZARRY: Okay. We tailored our website

to model all of the other state websites. So if you go

to the Governor's website or to the Controller's Office,

all of our websites now have the same template type. So

it's a little bit more user-friendly.

It's going to give you a view of the tasks at

the top. So when we go onto our website, there's an

initial landing. There's a carousel. All these are

interactive. You can click on here. It'll take you to

a Google map of our location. There's an actual image

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Here's our Carson City office. Crime Stoppers. See

Something, Say Something; as security industry or other

industries, the people we work in conjunction with, law

enforcement. So if a security officer needs to report

something, they can always come to our website instead

of looking for another state agency's website to find.

At the bottom, there are some key button items.

So the number one thing people usually come to our

website for is to apply for a work card.

Click the Identify for a Work Card. If you're

an employee -- employer, and you want to verify

someone's work card to make sure it's still currently

active, you can verify a work card.

Apply for a license. The apply for a license

function right now is not up and running. If you click

here, it takes you to a part of our website with some

information on the requirements to be a license holder,

and to contact our Licensing Specialist, Gisela. This

has the electronic license applications, don't have the

paper app at the moment for a license holder.

The initial landing for the website. Our

About Us page tells you about our mission statement.

You can meet our Board members here, read bios for each

of them. Our newsletters. Our statutes, NRS 648, and

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organizational chart of all of our employees and our

staff. There's a brief overview of who we are.

The Public Access is one of the -- is going to

be probably the number one thing where you're going to

click on when you come onto our website. The Public

Access is going to be where you would verify, as the

public or as a Board member or as a licensee, if someone

has a work card, if it's active, the status of their

work card, our license holders. All of it is in one

spot.

So if you are looking for an individual person

who has a work card or their provisional, and you want

to see the status of it, you would type in their work

card number here. Or you can look them up by first and

last name. Some instructions here on the side. If I'm

looking or a John Smith, you have to type in a portion

of his first name with an asterisk and a portion of his

last name with an asterisk in order to find him. If you

type in the full name John Smith, you may get exactly

that person, but he may be John Smith, hyphen, Jones.

You won't find him unless you put that asterisk in. So

we recommend sticking that star in there.

You can look for a particular company name. If

you want to find -- let me give you an example. So

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individual, I know that John Cruz has a work card, and

he's a license holder. I typed in J. You can add a few

more letters if you need to.

But John Cruz, any one of these, they're all

the exact same person, but it tells you here that he has

three different licenses. So any one of them, I get all

the information. I don't have to click on each one

individually. It tells you right at the top, John Cruz.

The first up information right here is going to

be his work card information. He's an active work card

holder. The status is right here, if he's active,

provisional, pending, denied, withdrawn. You're only

able to add someone, new license holders if they are

active or provisional. When they were given their

temporary card. When they were given their permanent

plastic card. And when their card is going to expire.

This is to keep in mind that someone may have a

provisional today, but in a couple months from now, when

we get their fingerprints back, they could be denied.

So you may have the paper in front of you. It's always

good to go on our website and double-check to make sure

they're still in provisional status before you hire

them.

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the responsibility of the license holder to add and take

people on and off their roster.

Something I want to point out, as new license

holders that are at the company, if you add someone to

your roster today, they will automatically be on your

site that you're looking at. When you add them on

through your portal, as we call, it's realtime, you see

them on your portal right then and there. If you were

to come to our website and check to see if it's on the

public site, it takes approximately the end of the

business day for it to refresh. So the next day, you

will see it on this site if you want to verify it. So

John Smith added to your company, when you look on the

website, it won't actually show you that, because it

will probably come up the next day. It refreshes

overnight. So keep that in mind.

My person here, he works for Cruz

International. He is the qualifying agent, private

patrolman, private investigator. It tells you his

individual licenses are two are in abeyance.

So this one verification gives you all the

information on John Cruz that we have in our system for

him. This is a verification. This is not proof of

licensure. They cannot use this form to show that they

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certificate. They get a work card. They get a license

card. Those are proof of their license with us. This

is just for you to verify the information.

Back to our website real quick.

So Public Access. If you ever want to look up

a list of all of the security companies, all the P.I.

companies, any repossessor companies, you would click

into the list of the active licensees by category. You

would fill out the form. It an email, takes about 10,

15 minutes, a list of any, all active companies in that

category. So if you want to look for all the

repossessors here in the state, it can give you a list.

You type in your name, your email, and what you're

actually looking for or what category of license you're

looking for. We do to the produce lists of individual

work card holders, only license holders.

What I will say is that this information is

being updated constantly. So if a change you made

today, once again, it may not be updated until the next

day on that list itself.

MR. INGRAM: Lori, do you want to talk a little

bit about the corrupt file, you know, versus the new and

how we're going through that daily.

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was a little bit outdated, a little bit older. So

transitioning everything from the older system to the

new system, there has been some issues. And what we

are -- like somebody asked if our older, like old

addresses, some of the information was -- so verify

license holders coming up are probably --

(The Reporter interrupted due to an inability

to completely hear Las Vegas.)

MS. IRIZARRY: So we are trying to work through

some of the data issues that we're having. The way that

we're expecting to do that is to let our licensees know,

go on the website, here's what address to you want

displayed to the public, mailing or physical, what's

your contact information you want.

So when we finally clean up the data

information, that's what would be displayed on the

active licensee list. Some of the information is there

currently. So you can still go on in and find a company

and see some address. But we're trying to clean up,

because some addresses are still missing, some contact

information is still missing, because switching from one

to another there's always some hiccups in between.

On this Public Access page is where you file a

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investigator. And, once again, like Kevin said earlier,

it takes about a week turnaround time to get it back to

you.

The Meetings tab is anywhere you would find

upcoming meetings, Board meetings, agendas, minutes.

These are all the current meetings for the past year.

And then you can go to our archived meetings and

workshops. If we are looking at changing any NRS, any

NRSs, NACs, any public workshops, this is where you'll

find the workshop and meeting dates here. And any of

our old, past meetings all the way to 2005. That's

minutes as well.

The Licensing tab is, if you want to be become

licensed, it lets you know right at the top this is not

for a work card. I know, in other states, the words

work card and license are interchanged. Here in Nevada,

a license is held by the company, a work card is for the

individual. So it lets you know right at the top this

is for a license only, tells you how to apply for a

license. Right now, you contact Gisela.

If you were going to be licensed and you

needed to know information about the exam, it's got exam

dates, tells you exactly what's going to be on the exam,

what you need to study, the book that you would need to

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locations are, and the exam dates.

Work cards. Another top button on our website

is going to be when someone wants to apply. Here you

find all the printable documents, the fingerprint

locations, the application itself, and you want to print

it out and bring it into the office. At the moment, you

are only able to apply in our offices. But we've just

finalized our work card application online. And this is

a kind of an example of what it will look like.

So this is the work card application. It has a

landing page. And what it tells you right here off the

bat is you have to complete the entire application from

start to finish and pay. You can't save and come back

to it. The work card application's only about six or

seven pages, so it shouldn't -- it's nothing that you

would need, like a license application, where you're

talking 20, 30 pages. It tells you the fees right at

the top, tells you what you're going to need before you

start the application, what you'll need to turn in,

either now or later, for it to be completed. And once

you read this, continue to the application.

Our application is much more user-friendly. It

goes tab by tab. Fill everything out. And when you get

to the bottom, click submit. And you're able to pay

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expedite fee online before, you had to come into our

office. We're now allowing you to pay expedite.

What expedite means -- if you pay the regular

fee, it takes about one to two weeks currently to get a

work card. If you pay the expedite fee, it takes about

two business days to be able to rush it now, if it had

come into our office now, as far as a website account.

It's going to make it a little bit more user-friendly.

This would be the work card process. It also

explains reasons the license would be denied and some

employment restrictions that our work cards have on

them.

The CFI tab is right now fairly minimal. The

goal with this is CFIs, Certified Firearms Instructors,

are able to input all their firearms information on our

website instead of having to drop off and mail their

information to us, which will help with the process

turnaround time. Pretty standard forms, has any form

that you may need would be here. Instead of going to

each individual tab, basically, the forms, all of our

forms will be listed here.

Our contact information. Our hours of

operation. We are closed for lunch every day 12:00 to

1:00. We do take credit cards in our office now. We

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And our online portal. This online portal is

where, when you are a license holder, where you would go

to adjust your roster, check to see if you have a fine

issued to you, how you could pay it, renew your license,

add or take away any of your -- update your contact

information, add a branch location, add an individual

sheet from your company that may not be a corporate

officer, but you want to add Mary as your person who

wants to update your roster, you can add it and do all

of it in your online portal.

Here are some instructions on how to create an

account, manage your roster, and renew your license.

When you click on the portal, what it will look like, or

this is what it looks like.

Every single new license holder, regardless if

you are on our old system or you're becoming licensed

today, you must request access to our site. None of

your old information from the old site transferred over

to the new site. Passwords aren't effective, so we

can't transfer passwords from one site to another. So

you are requesting to request access to our site. So

you would come on here and request access. What we're

looking for mainly is your email, first and last name,

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last name, date of birth, and social. And we're going

by what's on your state ID, because that's how we --

that's how we input you in our system. So if you go by

Bob, and your name's Robert, you need to go with that,

or it won't link your account, kind of a tip there,

because that's creating a little bit of problem. If you

have a hyphenated last name, and you only go by Jones,

but you're Jones, hyphen, Smith, you need to put

everything that's on that. Whatever you need with your

fingerprints is how we have you in the system, which is

how you would input it on this as well.

Once you log in and create an account, it takes

about 10 to 15 minutes. You'll get an email sent to

you. That email, you click on it, and then you're able

to access our account. That 10 or 15 minutes is what

it's doing is it's looking for you, gathering if you

have a license, a work card, if you have been denied.

What it's doing, it's creating one account, and then you

can log into one site and keep all of your stuff on one

site.

Many of our licensees have relogged in during

their renewal process. This online portal is not for

work card holders. It's only for license holders. If

you're a license holder and you have a work card, you'll

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someone who's applying for a work card. You only get

online, apply for a work card. You don't have an

account in our system if you have a work card.

And other than that, I'll leave it there, if

you have any questions, from the Board.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN IN THE AUDIENCE: So for our

application, would it be --

MR. IRIZARRY: There is a question, Board,

Board Chairman, if you want to respond.

MR. INGRAM: Well, I would just like to say

that if there's questions from the audience, that's

going to be handled in training sessions. So if the

Board has any questions about the presentation, we would

entertain the Board's questions.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Anybody have any

questions?

You can go ahead and take the website down, if

you would, Lori.

Great. Thank you very much.

Do any of the Board members have any questions

or follow-up?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Board Member Flynn?

MR. INGRAM: No questions here.

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BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No questions. Thank you.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No, I'd just make a

comment, if you will, Mr. Chairman.

I started with this since it went into effect.

And with very little help, had some help Kevin, but very

little, it was very easy to handle as a licensee. I

think, it's a great improvement by everybody that's

involved in it.

That's all I had.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Board Member Colbert?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I want to compliment

you. Because, number one, I think, the old website,

wasn't it pilb.org or something like that? Now it's

consistent with all the state websites. I think, that's

great. It's, what, pilb.nv.gov, right?

MS. IRIZARRY: Yes, correct.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: That's great. And, I

think, it looks very user-friendly. It looks very

user-friendly. So, good job.

And how are we doing now, are we caught up on

all the renewals and everything else?

MS. IRIZARRY: Yes. So there's no more, caught

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online. And then, from there, we're going to let

licensing apply. We're just doing one thing at a time

instead of kind of jumping in all at once.

And then the next step is we are planning, as

soon as the new year starts, we are going to email our

license holders, letting them know the training

sessions, so we can go more in-depth of here's what it

will look like, kind of a how-to, and just giving

instructions. Because in that, I would train them on

how to use it, them and their staff, whenever they want

to come in to train, use our system.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. I think, it

looks great, much, much, much better than the old site.

It's improved.

MS. IRIZARRY: Thank you.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Any other comments or

questions from the Board?

Well, thank you very much for the presentation.

That's awesome.

MS. IRIZARRY: You're welcome.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Kevin, did I miss

anything else that we talked about?

MR. INGRAM: Sir, I think, we're ready for item

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Thank you. Finally.

MR. INGRAM: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. So let's go

ahead and do the all applicants and witnesses to be

sworn in.

So if anyone's going to do any testifying, then

please rise and be sworn in.

MS. BORDELOVE: Please raise your right hand.

Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole

truth, and nothing but the truth?

(All applicants and witnesses present in

Las Vegas and Carson City were sworn.)

MS. BORDELOVE: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Moving right

along, let's go ahead and address corporate officer.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chairman?

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Did you have something?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair, would you

entertain a block vote?

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I would.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Okay. I'd like to, for

consideration for the block vote, I'd like to use number

six, number seven, number eight, number nine, number 10,

number 11, number 12, number 13, number 14, and number

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. I have a motion

for a block vote.

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chair, before we move forward,

I do need to let you know that one of those items has

been postponed till March. That is item number 13. So

we will not be making a decision on item 13 at this

time.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Okay. I'll remove

number 13.

MR. INGRAM: And while I'm at it, let's go

ahead and go through the rest of the items. Item

number 16 has been postponed till March at the request

of the applicant.

Item number 29 has been postponed till March at

the request of the applicant.

And item number 52 of the work card appeals has

been resolved. So that the not be heard today, either.

Thank you.

So let me go through those again. Items number

13, 16, 29 have been postponed till March. Item number

52 has been resolved and will not be heard today.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. So we have a

motion for a block vote.

Kevin, would you read the items that have been

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MR. INGRAM: The block vote items would be six,

seven, eight --

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I'm sorry. Kevin,

would you go ahead and read what they are.

MR. INGRAM: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And address it, kind of

read the item, so that anyone that's here for any of the

items will know specifically what we're addressing?

MR. INGRAM: Absolutely. Agenda item six is

CoreCivic, corporate officer status for Cole G. Carter.

Item number seven is AppFolio, Inc., license

number 1691, corporate officer approval for Clifford C.

Carlson, Ida K. Kane and Jason R. Randall.

Item number 8, Sedgwick SIU, Inc., license

number 1658, corporate officer approval for Kimberly D.

Brown-Carlisle.

Item number nine, Fire Cause Analysis, license

number 755, corporate officer status for Karen T. Peak.

Item number 10, Protective Force International,

LLC, dba Protective Force International, is applying for

a new private investigator and private patrol license.

Jonathan G. Alvarez, license number 2665, requesting his

individual license be placed in abeyance so that he may

become the qualifying agent. And the members to be

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Item number 11, Armored Empire, LLC, dba

Armored Empire Security, is applying for new private

patrol license. And if approved, Mena Boktor, license

number 2650, requesting that his individual license be


qualifying agent.

Item number 12, Omega Executive Protection,

LLC, is applying for a new private patrol license. If

approved, William C. Walden, license number 2198,

requesting that his individual license be kept in

abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.

Member to be approved is William C. Walden.

Item number 14, Darryl A. Kelley, requesting a

change of licensing status. Mr. Kelley's requesting

that his individual license, number 12 -- I'm sorry --

1921, license number 1921, be kept in abeyance so that

he may become the qualifying agent for Chenega Infinity,

LLC, license number 2289. Member to be approved is

Robert L. Cox.

Item number 15, Angeline Walker, requesting a

change of licensing status. Ms. Walker is requesting

that her individual license, license number 2668, be

kept in abeyance so she may become the qualifying agent

for Specialized Attorney Services, Inc., license number

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. We have a

motion. Do we have a second?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Ray Flynn seconds.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Thank you.

For the public, we have the block vote, which

means that all of these items can be considered in one

vote. Is there anyone that has any public testimony or

any public comment on any of these items?

MR. INGRAM: None in the south.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I'm sorry?

MR. INGRAM: I'm sorry, sir. I said none in

the south.


Is there any discussion from the Board? Board

Member Flynn?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: No, sir.


BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No, sir.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No, sir.



BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Hearing no

discussion, all in favor of the motion, signify by

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All those opposed?

It passes, the motion passes unanimously.

MR. INGRAM: So anyone that's here for those

item numbers on the agenda, you're free to leave, or

you're welcome to stay and participate in the rest of

the meeting. Staff will be in contact with you within

the next three business days.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Moving

along on the agenda, item 16 was postponed.

So we'll move to item number 17, AccuSource,

Incorporated, is applying for a new corporate private

investigator license. Lianne Charton-Holder is applying

for an individual license and requesting that her

individual license be placed in abeyance so that she may

become the qualifying agent. Corporate officer to be

approved is Lisa M. Holder.

So is there someone from AccuSource here?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Good morning. Please

identify yourself and give us a little bit of your

background and what your plans are.

MS. CHARTON-HOLDER: My name is Lianne Charton,

of Corona, California, with AccuSource, Incorporated.

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new personnel. And part of the reason we are required

to get a private investigation license is to be able to

access the public records in your state.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Very good.

Do we have any questions from the Board?



BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I have no questions.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Do we have a motion?

Or excuse me. Do we have any public comment?

MS. CHARTON-HOLDER: Well, I personally do. I

actually wanted to thank Shelly and Gisela, because they

were amazing during this process. Your state is very

responsive to the needs of the licensees, yeah.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Thank you. Thank you

very much. We like to hear the good side. Thank you.

Okay. I'll accept a motion, then.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: This is Gronauer. I'll

make a motion to approve.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Do we have a second to

the motion?


BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: We have a motion and a

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All in favor, signify by saying "aye."


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All opposed?

It passes unanimously. Congratulations. Thank

you very much for being here.

MS. CHARTON: Thank you. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Item number 18, Brand

Security Corporation. Is there anyone from Brand

Security?

MS. HOLDRIDGE: Yes, sir, over here.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Please.

MS. HOLDRIDGE: Good morning.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Good morning. Please

identify yourself and tell us a little bit about you and

what your company plans to do.

MS. HOLDRIDGE: Yes, good morning. My name is

Heather Holdridge, and I'm from Brand Security

Corporation. I was actually raised in Fallon. And I

currently operate and have a private investigator

license out of California. And I have a couple of

clients that are moving into Nevada, and I would like to

continue doing business with them in the state, as well

as when additional business comes.

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any questions or any comments from the Board?


It doesn't look as such. Was this the one that

someone had a question about the use of the term

security --

MS. HOLDRIDGE: That's correct.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: -- in your name?

MS. HOLDRIDGE: Yes, that's correct.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Inasmuch as you do

investigations but not necessarily security?

MS. HOLDRIDGE: Yes, we do no security. The

name Brand Security is in reference to Brand Detection.

The Brand name is trademarked as copyright.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Kevin, or the

investigator, did we have any questions as far as this

one?

MR. INGRAM: No, we did not. I reached out to

Ms. Holdridge to ask about the name. And when she

explained it that it's, you know, the brand protection

security, but it's actually they're doing

investigations, we just felt we needed to put that into

your background reports, so that the Board would

understand why the name said security as opposed to

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in here, too. So very good.

MR. INGRAM: Correct.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Do any of the Board

members have any questions? Board Member Flynn?







BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: No, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. With that,

is there any public comment?

Nothing north.

MR. INGRAM: Nothing south.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Nothing south. I'd

accept a motion.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Ray Flynn. I make a

motion to approve.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Yes, you know, I made

the mistake of reading that whole thing the first time.

I think that, I think, we need to be clear on the motion

for the record. So if you wouldn't mind reading all of

that into the record.

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Or completing the

motion.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: My motion is that Brand

Security Corporation, they're applying for a new

corporate private investigator license. Heather M.

Holdridge is applying for an individual private

investigator's license. If approved, she is requesting

that her individual license be held in abeyance so that

it may become -- so that she may become the qualifying

agent. The corporate officer to be approved is

Heather M. Holdridge. This is subject to all statutory



BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: We have a motion. We

have a second by Colbert. All in favor -- is there any

discussion on the motion?

All in favor of the motion, signify by saying

"aye."


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Any opposed?

Seeing none, the motion passes unanimously.

Congratulations.

MS. HOLDRIDGE: All right. Thank you very

much, sir.

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Item number 19,

Amanda L. Meredith.

Good morning.

MS. MEREDITH: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: First, identify

yourself, please. Explain your background and what your

intentions are.

MS. MEREDITH: Okay. My name's Amanda

Meredith. I have been with AccuSearch, Inc., here in

Nevada since the company started in 2011 here. We

perform primarily private public records research. And

we also have access to the statewide CNC program. So

for that, we're required to have our license through the

Board here.

As the team lead and manager for our office

here in Nevada, I am the responsible party for decisions

and actions taken here. So I'd like to obtain the

license so that my license reflects that status.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Very good.

Do we have any questions from the Board? Board

Member Flynn?

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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: None, sir.



BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Is there

any public from the -- is there any comments from the

public, or public comment?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Seeing

none, then I would accept a motion.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair, I'd move that

Amanda L. Meredith be approved an individual private

investigator's license and that her individual license

be placed into abeyance so that she may become the

qualifying agent for AccuSearch, Inc., license number

1677. This is subject to all statutory and regulatory

requirements.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: We have a motion by

Board Member Colbert. Do we have a second?



Nixon. Any discussion on the motion?

Seeing none, all in favor, signify by saying

"aye."


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Opposed?



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Congratulations.

MS. MEREDITH: Thank you very much.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: We're now moving to the

Private Patrol section, item number 20. Is that Onyxcts

("Onyx")? I'm trying to figure out how to pronounce it.

Onyxcts, LLC?

MR. CAPONE: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Come on up.

MR. CAPONE: Good morning. Marcus Capone here

for representing Onyxcts.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Great. And, sir, so

would you identify yourself and give us your background

and talk a little bit about the company.

MR. CAPONE: Yes, of course. I'm Marcus

Capone. I come from a special operations background.

And I started a company two years ago with several

partners. We went through a recent acquisition by a

larger defense contractor, and now we've changed the

name to Onyxcts, and we're building out their commercial

security division.

And we have potential opportunity in projects

in the state of Nevada and why we're applying for this

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Thank you. And where's

your office located?

MR. CAPONE: We have several. The holding

company is out of Columbus, Ohio. We're in Dallas.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay.

MR. CAPONE: We have an office in Virginia.

Yeah.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: If you're going to

spend some time in Nevada, it's "Neh-VAD-ah," not

"Neh-VAW-dah."

MR. CAPONE: Nevada.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Very good. That will help

to get clients.

MR. CAPONE: I spent two days here and no one's

corrected me yet.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: That's why we're here.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: That's right, special

operations, special forces venue. Very good.

Is there any public comment on this?

Does the Board, do the Board members have any

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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yes, sir, just one.

Do you have, currently have an office in

Nevada?

MR. CAPONE: We don't, sir. And we're just

waiting to see if we get the license. Then we're going

to move forward with everything else.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: So you don't plan to

have an office in Nevada until you have under contract?

MR. CAPONE: We would like to see if we're

going to, if we're able to move forward with anything.

And if we do, then we have to make those arrangements

to, you know --

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: An office where?

MR. CAPONE: Excuse me?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Make the arrangements

to have an office where, again, what state? Nevada?

MR. CAPONE: Currently?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No.

MR. CAPONE: Nevada ("Neh-VAD-ah"), yes. I

won't make that mistake again.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That's all.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Very good.

Any other questions, Board Member Gronauer?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No, I'm fine. Thank

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Board Member

Colbert?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Seeing none, is there

any public comment?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And none north. All

right. With that, I would accept a motion.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Ray Flynn. I'll make a

motion. Maybe you can help me out with the

pronunciation. How do you pronounce the company name?

MR. CAPONE: "Onyx-C-T-S."


MR. CAPONE: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: The motion is that Onyxcts

("Onyx-C-T-S"), LLC, is applying for a new corporate

private patrolman license. Marcus A. Capone is applying

for an individual private patrolman license. If

approved, he is requesting that his individual license

be placed into abeyance so that he may become the

qualifying agent. Members to be approved are Gregory K.

Miller and Jon J. Ricker. This is subject to all


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I have a motion by

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BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Second. I second.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: We have a second by

Board Member Nixon.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: And that --

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chair, we just need him to

refine that motion just a little bit.


BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: What I forgot to say is

that I'm making a motion to approve.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Oh. All right. Thank

you very much.

Okay. So we have a motion to approve made by

Board Member Flynn, seconded by Board Member Nixon. Any



"aye."


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Those opposed?


Mr. Capone, thank you for your service, by the way. And

congratulations.

MR. CAPONE: Thank you, sir. I look forward to

working in Nevada.

You told us to do the website. So we'll chat.



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Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: We'll now go to item

number 21, CA Casino Property 1 LLC. Is there anyone

here representing them?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Come on up.


MS. POVILL: Good morning. I'm Lisa Povill.

Hello.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Good morning.

MS. POVILL: Good morning. I'm Lisa Povill.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Please identify

yourself, give us some background, and tell us a little

bit about your company.

MS. POVILL: My name is Lisa Povill. I'm

presently and already am a Nevada's licensee. I have a

P.I. license and recently took the test and passed for

the private patrolman's license. I'm the qualifying

agent for, with the Nevada P.I. license for another

corporation.

And this would be for a different company,

under the private patrolman license for -- and the name

is deceiving. It was just -- it's going to be changed,

and we'll file something. This was just something that

it never got to be changed in the process. So it's

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going to be security and patrol. We're going to provide

security and patrol. And I'm going to be the qualifying

agent.

So I'm here representing them, but it's going

to be here in this state, and they will be providing

security services and patrol services for people that

they know. And I would be supervising, I guess, in the

qualifying agent capacity.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Very good.

Any questions from the Board? Board Member

Flynn?





BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yes, I have one

question, just I'll put it to our counsel. I'm not sure

that we can, if it's something on the agenda that's

under one name, and she wants it approved under a

different name. That's the way I understood it, that

they're going to operate under a different name.

MR. INGRAM: Well, what we would have to do in

that case would be, when you approve it under this name,

they would have to establish themself in the state with

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they would have to come before the Board again, to get

the corporate name change approved.

So you would have to make your decision under

this name.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And that will be a

different agent item at another time?

MR. INGRAM: Different agenda item at a future

Board meeting, yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I just wanted to

be clear on it. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Any additional

questions?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'm okay. No, I'm

fine.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Good.



BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Do we have

any public comment?

Seeing or hearing none, then I would entertain

a motion.


CA Casino Property 1 LLC be approved for a new corporate

private patrolman's license, and that Lisa Povill be

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that her individual license be placed into abeyance so

that she may become the qualifying agent. Member to be

approved is Nigel F. White. This is subject to all



Board Member Colbert. Do I have a second?



Board Member Nixon. Any discussion on the motion?






Congratulations. Good luck.

MS. POVILL: Thank you very much.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Item number 22,

Tactical Protection Agency, LLC. Is there anyone that

are representing them?

MR. WICKERHAM: Good morning.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Good morning.

MR. WICKERHAM: My name is Andrew Wickerham.

I'm apply for the QA.


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can sit down.

I'm sorry. Could you give us the lowdown on

your background, and talk about, a little bit about the

company, please.

MR. WICKERHAM: My background is a Marine Corps

veteran, and for 10 years, and I've been in the security

since 2007. I also qualified as a license holder for a

CFI. And we plan on doing a dba to Nevada Protective

Services, once we've been granted.

And our company is just mainly to provide the

service to community's businesses and individuals for

any sort of executive protection, personal protection,

and standard security.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Very good.


Member Flynn?









none, do we have any public comment?



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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: In that case, I'd

entertain a motion.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I make the motion to --

well, I guess, I have to read it. Sorry.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: That's what we all do.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah. I'm sorry. This

is Gronauer. I make a motion to approve Tactical

Protection Agency, LLC. They're applying for a new

corporate private patrolman license. Andrew L.

Wickerham, United States Marine Corps veteran, is

applying for his individual private patrolman's license.

If approved, he is requesting that his individual

license be placed into abeyance so that he may become

the qualifying agent. Corporate officer to be approved

is --

Can you tell me that name? I can't. Corporate

officer to be approved is, can you tell me the name?

MR. WICKERHAM: Just Dane Lee.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Kyonghun Lee. This is

subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.


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Congratulations. And thank you for your service.

MR. WICKERHAM: Thank you, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Moving on,

we have item number 23, T.A.C. Protective Services, LLC.

MR. WHIDDON: Hi, good morning, Chairman. Good

morning, Board.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Good morning. Would

you please identify yourself, give us a little bit of

your background, and then talk about the company and

what they do.

MR. WHIDDON: Yes, sir. My name is Tony

Whiddon. I'm also a Marine Corps veteran. I've lived

in Nevada for the last 50 years. My experience is 28

years in the private sector, basically in senior

leadership in the casino industry.

And we're looking forward to opening up our own

company and, you know, serving southern Nevada with

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any questions from the Board? I'm going to start with

Board Member Gronauer first.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll leave this Marine

off the hook. I'm fine.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Board

Member Nixon?



BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: None. None.




any public comment?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And seeing none, I

would accept a motion.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair, I move that

T.A.C. Protective Services, LLC, be approved for a new

corporate private patrolman license, that Tony R.

Whiddon be approved an individual private patrolman

license, and that his individual license be placed into

abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.

This is subject to all statutory and regulatory

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Board Member Flynn. Any discussion on the motion?





The motion passes unanimously. Thank you very

much. Congratulations. And thank you for your service.

MR. WHIDDON: Thank you. Thank you.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Good luck to you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Item number 24, SWATA,

LLC.

MR. FLEURY: Good morning.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Good morning to you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Good morning, sir.

Please identify yourself, tell us a little bit about

your background and then a little bit about the company.

MR. FLEURY: My name is Christopher Fleury.

I've been in the security for about 10 years, operation.

The company's headquarters are in Maryland, D.C.,

Virginia. Some of our clients are in Nevada, requesting

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Any

questions from the Board? Board Member Nixon?





BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Nothing.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Board member Colbert?



any public comment?

I just had one question and with the

investigator. I believe, that was Investigator Maxwell.

And we were confirmed on the hours? The hours, I just,

there was something about the hours that I was

questioning. The -- boy, I'm stuttering here. You were

good with the hours?

MR. MAXWELL: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Good enough.

All right. With that, I would accept a motion.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair, I move

that --

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Ray Flynn. I'll make a --

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Go ahead.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Go for it. Go for it.



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SWATA, LLC, be approved a new corporate private

patrolman license, and that Christopher U. Fleury be

approved an individual private patrolman license, and

that his individual license be placed into abeyance so

that he may become the qualifying agent. Members to be

approved are Christopher U. Fleury. This is subject to






Board Member Flynn. Any discussion on the motion?





The motion passes unanimously.

Congratulations, Mr. Fleury.

MR. FLEURY: Thank you, sir.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Have a good day.

MR. FLEURY: Thanks.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Item number 25, CDA

Incorporated.

Good morning.



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MR. PATTISON: Good morning.


yourself, give us a little bit of your background and a

little bit about the company.

MR. PATTISON: My name is Todd Pattison. I

currently live in Annapolis, Maryland. My first career

was a state trooper for the State of Iowa. And I

transitioned into the private security industry

approximately 20 years ago.

I am the owner of CDA Incorporated. We are a

federal government contractor holding a top-secret

facility clearance. And the reason we're seeking

licensure in Nevada is there are federal government

contracts coming out to bid, and we wish to submit a

proposal.



Gronauer?





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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Is there any public

comment?



I would accept a motion.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Ray Flynn will make a

motion to approve, that CDA Incorporated is applying for

a new corporate private patrolman license. Todd A.

Pattison is applying for an individual private patrolman

license. If approved, he is requesting that his

individual license be placed into abeyance so that he

may become the qualifying agent. This is subject to all




Board Member Flynn and a second by Board Member Colbert.

Any discussion on the motion?






Congratulations, Mr. Pattison. Good luck.

MR. PATTISON: Thank you very much.

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good day.

MR. PATTISON: Thank you. Have a good day.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Item number 26, Beau

Security & Investigations, Incorporated.

Good morning, sir.

MR. HURLEY: Good morning, Mr. Chairman.


yourself, give us a little bit of your background and a

little bit about the company.

MR. HURLEY: Okay. My name is Patrick Hurley.

I am a graduate of the United States Naval Academy,

former naval aviator, a veteran of the first Persian

Gulf War. And for about the last 20 years, I've been in

several key risk management, leadership and security

positions, including vice president in the office of

global security at a large international bank.

Currently, I'm the executive vice president at

Beau Dietl & Associates, Beau Security Investigations,

based in New York. We're applying for a license here in

Nevada primarily because we have a large client who's

made a significant investment here, an existing client

here in Las Vegas, and they've requested we provide

security services for them going forward as they build

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Does the Board have any questions? Board

Member Colbert?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yes, I do.


BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Sir, could you give me a

little, details on your Chapter 13 filing.

MR. HURLEY: Yeah, I did put that. I gave

feedback to the investigator when he asked me about

that. That was something that I was -- personally kind

of had no other option in trying to work with a bank

that, basically, was not working with us at all. And,

basically, for the well-being of primarily my family, in

order to move forward with this, I filed for that.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Okay. Thank you.

Nothing further.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: None. Board Member

Gronauer?



Member Nixon?




BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Is there any public

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: None in the north. All

right. With that, I would accept a motion.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I would like to make a

motion. This is Nixon, Board Member Nixon. I move that

Beau Security be approved, Beau Security &

Investigations be approved for the new corporate private

patrol license. That Patrick J. Hurley is applying for

an individual private patrolman license. If approved,

he is requesting that his individual license be placed

into abeyance so that he may become the qualifying

agent. Corporate officers to be approved are Rick, or

I'm sorry, Richard --

Dietl ("Deet-l")?

MR. HURLEY: Dietl ("Deet-l").

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay. And -- oh, wow. I

did the first one.

MR. HURLEY: Gioacchino ("Jah-keen-oh"). Jack.

Giacchino.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Gioacchino Viola.

MR. HURLEY: Yep.

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Board Member Nixon. We have a second by Board Member

Colbert. Any discussion on the motion?





MR. HURLEY: Thank you.


MR. HURLEY: I was waiting for it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: The motion passes

unanimously. Congratulations. Good luck.

MR. HURLEY: Thank you.


BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Good luck.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. We're on

item number 27, Strategic Security Corporation.

MR. YONKER: Good morning.


yourself, give us your background, and then also explain

about the company.

MR. YONKER: My name is Michael Yonker. I've

been -- I was born in Nevada, and I've been raised here.

I'm a third generation law enforcement.

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Corporation out of New York. The company was originally

started by some New York cops and is currently run by

several different people that are both current and

retired law enforcement. They pride themselves in

hiring higher-end security, paying the higher-end wages

in order to keep that, retain their security personnel.

And I think that this is an awesome opportunity

for both me and the people that we potentially will

employ in the state of Nevada, as they do take good care

of their employees and their customers.



Member Nixon?







BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yes, I do.

Mr. Yonker, what happened with Washoe County;

did you lose your job there?

MR. YONKER: Yes, sir. So I was a deputy for

approximately 18 and a half years. I was involved in a

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with my lights and sirens. During that pursuit, a

person pulled in front of me, and I was involved in an

accident. No one, luckily, no one was injured in that

accident.

But due to the fact that I had had current

dealings with the current sheriff, Chuck Allen, who's

not decided to retain office, he terminated me for the

pursuit. Which it's still in arbitration. But it was

just an unfortunate chain of events in light of that,

so.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: So were you in

compliance with all the requirements for a Code 3?

MR. YONKER: Yes, lights, sirens.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: M-hm (affirmative). All

right. Okay. Nothing further.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. I did have a

question. You know, just a few, couple months ago, you

filed for bankruptcy?

MR. YONKER: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Could you please

explain that.

MR. YONKER: So when I lost my job, my wife

talked me into cashing out all of our savings and our

retirement, and in order to make the family feel more

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that I unexpectedly lost my job. So when I did that,

she took all that money and then asked for a divorce.

So, unfortunately, due to that, and the fact that I've

been, you know, obviously trying to find good

employment, I have been unable to pay my bills as I

would like to. So it was kind of a forced situation,

and it was a last-ditch effort.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: What's the status of

that now?

MR. YONKER: It's still in litigation. But I'm

not sure exactly what's going on with it in the future.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And your partners in

the LLC are aware of all of this and your financial

history?

MR. YONKER: And they're not, they're not

involved in that at all. They're financially very

stable.


MR. YONKER: They have a great record, and

their company is highly regarded on the East Coast.

They work with FEMA. They work, do work with several

large corporations internationally, so.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. And I'm just

trying to verify --

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: -- the viability of the

corporation.

MR. YONKER: No problem. I do understand.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Any other

questions?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: I do.


BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: To the investigator, is

it --

MS. DONALD: Yes, Investigator Donald.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yes. I notice that you

had several locations that he had previously worked with

that have since shut down or were not available or

whatever. Was there any attempt to contact the

Secretary of State or anything, with California, to get

any further information on those locations or possible

supervisors?

MS. DONALD: We had done research and were

unable to locate on one of them. Systematic, Systanic

Investigations, I think, that's how you say it.

I believe, that was a family member's company,

if I recall, that you worked for out there.

MR. YONKER: Yes.

MS. DONALD: Yeah.

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MS. DONALD: So. And then the other one, Ron

Davis (phonetic spelling), was licensed in Nevada, but

Mr. Yonker stated he only worked in California for him.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Thank you.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, Gronauer. I just

have, because this one case is going on, and it's

still -- the court date's not till 12-18. And 12-18 of

'18, that just a few days from now. But I have a

problem when we don't have everything settled, you know,

we have where it's going, what's going to happen with

it. So that's a problem with me. I'll have a difficult

time of approving it.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Ray Flynn. I've got a

question, also.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Go ahead.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: For the investigator.

MS. DONALD: M-hm (affirmative).

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Did we get any information

from Washoe County itself, on their version of the

events that led to the termination of employment?

MS. DONALD: I did not.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. Did we ask?

MS. DONALD: No.

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the length of employment and the fact that he was

terminated. I always feel more comfortable when I hear

both sides of the story. So for me to go forward on

this, I'd like our investigator to reach out to Washoe

County and find out some more about this incident.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Any other comments or

questions?

Is there any public comment?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So. Well, first off,

let me ask. Do we have a motion?

Mr. Yonker, I think, there's a little

reluctance on behalf of the Board to move forward with

some unanswered questions.

And if we have a motion, I guess, my sense is,

for your motion, it would be to deny at this point, was

the consensus on the Board. I can wait for that motion.

But the other piece of it would be to table this until

our next meeting and have the investigator go back and

get a little bit more information for the Board.

Is that kind of the sense of the Board?


BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yeah, Mr. Chair, but as in

past practice, the applicant would have to agree to

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then we go ahead and vote. And then, based on the

outcome, he could wait up to another year.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Yeah, Kevin, is it a

year that they have to wait for reapplication?

MR. INGRAM: Traditionally, that's what the

Board has --

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: On up for a license. I

know, on a work permit, it's set in NAC that there's --

you have to wait a year. But I'm not sure what, how

that reads for a license.

MR. INGRAM: Right, it does not state that for

the license. However, traditionally, the Board has

followed the same parameters.


MR. INGRAM: However, if he requested to

postpone, we could agendize him for the next Board

meeting.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Counsel, we could even

make, have a motion to delay this till the next Board

meeting, correct? I think, we've done that.

MS. BORDELOVE: I think, you may have done that

before. I mean, because we have it on the agenda here,

I'd be more comfortable if the applicant was in

agreement. If he really wants a decision today, I would

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you might, I guess, get his answer on that first.

MR. YONKER: I'm okay with postponing this.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Then --

MS. BORDELOVE: I don't think, you don't need a

motion to postpone. If he's agreeing to postpone, you

can. But I don't believe you necessarily need a motion

to table it, since you're not making a decision on it at

this time.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. So I'd let the

record should reflect that Mr. Yonker has indicated that

he's willing to wait, to delay the decision until the

next Board meeting.

And, I guess, then, the direction to staff

would be to follow up on some of the questions that the

Board has directed at them.

Is the Board comfortable with that?


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Mr. Yonker, I

think, that's the direction we will go.

MR. YONKER: All right. I was just confused.

I thought she talked to them. I would like, I'd just

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everything that I've been involved with, with the

investigator. And I'm not sure why the county wasn't

contacted already.


MR. YONKER: So.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Well, they'll follow up

on that.

MR. YONKER: Okay.

MS. DONALD: I just want to --

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I'm sorry?

MS. DONALD: It's been verified. There was no

question that he worked there. But they don't give out

information, you know, general information like that,

so. Everything, he has been open is honest. And, you

know, we've done what we can for the background. But I

wasn't able to obtain any information from his employer.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: When they --

MS. DONALD: And, you know, basic, basic, you

know, verification of hours.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Ray Flynn, just to

comment, because I'm unsure of the process. Does the

applicant sign a release for information? Because

departments will not release that kind of information

without being provided a release.

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was from HR, and it verified his hours and that he

was --

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Right. But we're asking

for more.

MS. DONALD: Right, I understand.


MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chair, what we can do, in an

investigation of this type, you know, employers are more

reluctant, even with a release, to release that kind of

information. But we do have the ability to subpoena

those records. And, therefore, we'll follow through on

it and make sure we obtain all the necessary information

that the Board's requesting.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. If you

don't -- it might be possible Mr. Yonker could go get

that information himself, with their letterhead and that

information, without the possibility of subpoenas and

all. But if we could do that in a timely manner, then

we won't have to go through the subpoena process, and it

just becomes a big, big mess that we don't need.

But, Mr. Yonker, I think, you can go, on your

own, and request that information, get it from their

letterhead from somebody in charge.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I think, Mr. Yonker, I

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and try to work your case.

MR. YONKER: Yes, definitely.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Thank you

very much.

MR. YONKER: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. We'll move

on to item number 28, William R. Thomas.

MR. THOMAS: Good morning, ladies and

gentlemen, Mr. Chairman.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Good morning. Good

morning. Could you please identify yourself, give us

your background, and then talk a little bit about the

company.

MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. My name is William R.

Thomas, no kin to the company. I've been doing security

over 10 years. We have, currently have two properties

out here in Nevada. We are located in 34 states. The

chairman of the board for the company, Carl Thomas, is a

retired sheriff of Dallas County, started the company in

1981.


any questions from the Board? Board Member Colbert?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yes, I have a question

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Looking at your financial stuff and all the



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issues going on there, can you give me some

clarification to what's taken place there?

MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir. I am currently working

on trying to get all of those taken care of, repaired,

and trying to get my credit built back up. You know, my

salary that I receive every week pretty much goes to

doing that.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: What's the status with

the small claims judgment from North Carolina?

MR. THOMAS: The small claims judgment -- yes,

sir. The small claims judgment, that occurred well over

10 years ago. I had called and spoke with them, and

they had informed me they couldn't send me anything

because it has been deleted from their system, so no

longer, it no longer exists.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Okay. Did you make any

payments at all on that claim?

MR. THOMAS: No, sir.


MR. THOMAS: The reason being is I was a

foreign contractor at the time. The person that had

sued me for that was a friend of mine. He was a

building contractor. He got sued for building the house

that he had built wrongly. Part of it was my mistake

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in for him, because he was a friend. And that was a

very hard lesson learned.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: What created the issue

here with these items all going into collection, that

are currently in collection?

MR. THOMAS: Just basically not making enough

money to be able to keep up on everything, trying to

keep up on everything.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: And I notice that there

was also a number of other items going back a little

ways that are also charged off. Is that all part of

this financial problem, or what?

MR. THOMAS: No, sir. No. Those, that was,

basically, meeting the wrong woman. She had charged me

with quite a few charges. I entailed, had her charged

with obstruction of justice.


BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: I have another one.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Sure.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Also, looking at --

excuse me here for one minute.

Looking at your -- going back a little bit in

time there with your arrest history, what was going on

back then that you had so many different issues taking

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what?

MR. THOMAS: No, sir. No. Basically,

stupidity. I've been married. A couple of those were

ex-wives. And then one was an ex-girlfriend. Just

issues. I was actually going through the police academy

back in 2013, graduated the police academy. But before

that, the women, it was just stupid moves on my part.


MR. THOMAS: Meeting the wrong women.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Okay. No further.


Member Flynn, do you have any questions?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yeah, I have a couple.

What police academy did you go to?

MR. THOMAS: North Carolina Justice Academy,

run through county community college.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: And what happened after

you graduated?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Basically, I stayed in

North Carolina. And you pay to go through the academy.

When you graduate, you have one year to find a job.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: M-hm (affirmative).

MR. THOMAS: I was three months into my last

year. I got a provisionary offer. And because of all

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three, which I didn't realize they were sending my job

offer. And that's when I made the decision to move to

Las Vegas.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. I'm looking at your

current work history.

MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: And maybe you could

explain. You're not with anyplace for any length of

time. Two months, three months, six months, four

months. Do you want to explain that?

MR. THOMAS: The longest time I spent was with

Acme Security. I was a supervisor with them. Almost

all the companies I've worked for out here, I didn't

like them. I don't like the way they train their

employees. I don't like the way they handle their

employees. I don't like the way they handle payroll.

Basically, the companies I've worked for, you're given a

shirt, and here's your property, have a nice day.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right. I have no

other questions.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Board Member Nixon, do

you have any questions?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No. No, sir.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Well, yes, sir.



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It says that you were employed by Cambridge

Security.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: December of '16 to

September of '17.

MR. THOMAS: Correct.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Are you currently

employed?

MR. THOMAS: No, sir. I am, I am employed with

Thomas Protective Services.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Well, it says this -- the

employment was past employment, the way I understand

this. I might be wrong. It looks like they verified

that you were employed at one time. I don't see it at

you're employed now.

Am I wrong here, Investigator?

MR. SWARTHOUT: Investigator Swarthout. He

does have a contract with them. I included the ones,

the employment were the ones --

(The Reporter interrupted due to an inability

to completely hear Las Vegas.)

MR. SWARTHOUT: Investigator Swarthout. We

did, did contact them. He does have a contract for

employment, that was included with his application, with

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experience, off of the CSEQs that were provided.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Thank you. I

can see that was on the CT, on his 2018. And that's

still valid?

MR. SWARTHOUT: Correct.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay. No more questions.

Thank you.


Any follow-up questions by the Board?



BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Seeing no public

comment, I would entertain a motion.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Could I ask one more

question? This is Gronauer.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Absolutely.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. You signed up

for the Thomas Investigations. Are they here?


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. That's all I

had. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. I'm still

looking for a motion.

For the purposes of discussion, I'll make a

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individual private patrol license, that his individual

license be placed in abeyance so that he may become the

qualifying agent for Thomas Protective Services, license

number 1309, subject to all statutory and regulatory

requirements.

There's been a motion. Is there a second?

The motion dies for lack of a second. And do I

have an alternate motion?


motion for denial. And the main reason is I know I

asked questions related to his multiple shortness of

employments, but mainly the financial situation.

I don't want to speak for Board Member

Gronauer, but I'd be more comfortable if the owner of

the company was here, too. But because of the -- give

him some time to get his financial situation in order,

I'm going to make a recommendation to deny.



Board Member Flynn for denial, a second by Board Member

Nixon. Discussion on the motion?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: I also concur with that

same belief.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. I, too, am going

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Any additional comment by any Board member?

And, again, I guess, I'm going to -- so, for

the record, the reason I'm supporting the denial is we

have significant financial issues involved. And I can't

really weigh the criminal activity, the criminal

arrests, because all of them have either been expunged

or, you know, in other words, they're arrests, they're

not convictions. And so, therefore, that doesn't carry

any weight in my mind.

But, I think, the final aspect to be a

qualifying agent -- and it's all recency, too. It's

not, it's not something that waits in the long path. So

I'm going to support the motion based on that.

So that said, all in favor of the motion,



BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Opposed to the motion?

Mr. Thomas, I think, there's some other routes

that you can go, if you want to continue pursuing this,

to be a qualifying agent for this company. One is

demonstrating some, you know -- well, there's some

routes that you have, I think, you can look at with the

company and maybe work out some arrangements with them.

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MR. THOMAS: Thank you, sir. Thank you.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Good day.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Item number 29 has been

postponed.

So we'll move on to the area of process server,

starting with Rebecca D. Godwin.

MS. GODWIN: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Good morning.



yourself, and give us a little background.

MS. GODWIN: Sure. My name's Rebecca D.

Godwin. I'm employed with James Legal Service. They've

been in business since 1973. I have been employed with

them for 10 years. I manage the process serving

department as well as the office. We handle process

service for local attorneys, in Clark County also,

statewide and nationwide. We handle runner service,

deliveries to and from court.

And I am applying for my process server's

license to be put in abeyance today.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Any questions

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I have one question,

and that is directed to counsel. The item on our agenda

does not indicate placing her process server license in

abeyance. Can that be --

MS. BORDELOVE: I think, we had --

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: -- added to the motion

at her request?

MS. BORDELOVE: I think, we've had this one

come up before. I don't think it requires a Board

action to put the license in abeyance.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Perfect.

MS. BORDELOVE: She can simply request that of

Director Ingram.


MS. BORDELOVE: So, I think, just make your

motion regarding her individual license. And then she

can take the abeyance, she can do that with staff.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And then, but in

order -- the purpose for putting it in abeyance would be

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additional Board action, correct?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Not necessarily.

MR. INGRAM: I don't believe that's the

request.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: No, I --

MR. INGRAM: The QA's going to stay in place,

correct?

MS. GODWIN: M-hm (affirmative).

MR. INGRAM: You're just placing in abeyance

for the future?

MS. GODWIN: Exactly.

MR. INGRAM: Okay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. I got it. Thank

you. Thank you for the clarification. I appreciate

that.




I'd accept a motion.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. I make a

motion to approve Rebecca D. Godwin for an individual

process service license.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Subject to all --

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: I --




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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Subject to all

statutory and regulatory requirements?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'm sorry. Subject to

all statutory and regulatory requirements. It was so

easy, I just wanted to keep it easier.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. We have a

motion by Board Member Gronauer and a second by Board

Member Colbert. Any discussion on the motion?


"aye."




Congratulations. Good luck. And just contact the Board

to put it in abeyance.

MS. GODWIN: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Number 31, Johnny R.

Soto.

MR. INGRAM: He's in the south.

MR. SOTO: Good morning.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Good morning, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Good morning. Would

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MR. SOTO: My name is Johnny R. Soto. I'm from

California. I work for a company called ADI Document

Support Services, LLC, in the process of trying to

obtain my individual process server's license, with

knowledge that the company may be changing ownership

next year, in hopes of then becoming the qualifying

agent.



Flynn?





BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do you have any Nevada

licenses now?

MR. SOTO: Just with the PILB. Oh, a work

card. I don't have any licenses.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Just a work card.

Okay. You do have a work card?

MR. SOTO: Yeah.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. That's all. No

more.


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any public comment?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Seeing none, I'd accept

a motion.


Johnny R. Soto be approved an individual process server

license. This is subject to all statutory and

regulatory requirements.


Board Member Colbert. Is there a second?



Nixon. Discussion on the motion?


"aye."



It passes unanimously. Congratulations. Good

luck.

MR. SOTO: Thank you. Thank you.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Number 32,

Baechler Investigative Services, Incorporated, for



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private investigator and process server.

MR. BAECHLER: Good morning.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Good morning, sir.

MR. BAECHLER: Nice to meet you all in perfect,

in person.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Or perfect.

MR. BAECHLER: Or purpose, yes, right.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Did I pronounce your

last name correctly, or did I --

MR. BAECHLER: It's "Bak-lor."

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: "Bak-lor." Okay.

Sorry. Please, identify yourself, which you have, but

give us a little bit of your background and what, how

you're going to proceed and what's the plan.

MR. BAECHLER: Sure. My name is Jeremiah

Baechler. I've been involved in the investigative

process service for 19 years. My family has been

involved in this business for 30 years this year. I

primarily specialize in surveillance, difficult process

service, also doing interviews, background checks.

That's a brief synopsis of some of my

investigative process service and experience.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Do we have any

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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Why not. Do you have

offices in Nevada now?

MR. BAECHLER: No.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Are you planning to

have an office in Nevada?

MR. BAECHLER: If it's meant to be, hopefully,

at some point. But immediately, not at the moment. My

main purpose in seeking the license is to be aboveboard,

legal. And particularly, if I need to come into the

state on a surveillance or a process service, I can do

so legally, which I've never done previously.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That is a good point

there.

MR. BAECHLER: Okay. No unlicensed activity

here.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No, I understand.

Okay. Thank you.

MR. BAECHLER: Yeah.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That's all for me.


Member Flynn?



BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No.




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Sir, could you give me a little more

clarification on your 2018 bankruptcy?

MR. BAECHLER: Yes. Unfortunately, I had to

file bankruptcy. I exhausted all other options. The

situation mainly being is, is that -- and one of my main

sources of investigative work previously has been as a

subcontractor with my father's company. I have also

independently had my own investigative company up until

this year. And so the investigative work, as a

subcontract I was receiving from my father's company,

was slowing down. Which at the time, wasn't quite sure,

but my father ended up having terminal cancer.

And so, in conjunction with that at the time, I

also sought to take loans to compensate my loss of

income. And, two, I even sought to do some work as a

driver for Uber and Lyft, which, so I could have

flexibility to also be able to service my investigative

clients.

All those things combined, unfortunately, was

not adequate. And so, kind of also feeling like I was

at the end of my options with that, I had to reluctantly

file bankruptcy. I really wish I did not have to do

that. Shortly after that time, my father passed with

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Since then, at this time, my income and

business has done much better, which, unfortunately, is,

I want to say, as a result of so, I mean, I mean, one

way or the other. I inherited my father's business, a

large client base, and have done significantly better

financially since that time.

Also, during that time last year, my brother

was also -- my brother is fully disabled, so needing

family assistance. He is also now on a kidney

transplant list.

So these are some of the circumstances,

unfortunately, that led to filing bankruptcy.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Thank you for the

clarification. Sorry for your loss.

MR. BAECHLER: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So are there any

follow-up questions by the Board members?

Do we have any public comment?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I just thought of one

more follow-up question, on the bankruptcy. This is

Gronauer.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Sure.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Of course. Where is

this most recent bankruptcy now, where is that in the

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MR. BAECHLER: It's done. It's finalized.

That was finished up in, I believe, February. I gave

that document back with my application and a

supplemental letter regarding that.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Well, you gave the

document on the investigator side,, but hat's a good

answer. Thank you.

MR. BAECHLER: And, too, I would just like to

add that the bankruptcy was pretty much exclusively

consumer debt. I've never had any liens, any judgments,

no tax liens. I've never been delinquent on student

loans. And last year, when I was at this point that I

had to do this, I voluntarily called my auto financer

and voluntarily surrendered the vehicle.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That's all.

MR. BAECHLER: I tried to do what I could to

make a bankruptcy as straightforward as possible, as

honorable, if there is such a thing.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Thank you,

Mr. Baechler.

Any additional follow-up questions?

Seeing none, public comment?


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motion.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Again, I'm sorry, but

on the agenda item, it says applying for individual

process server. It doesn't say anything about private

investigator.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Yes, it does.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yeah, it does.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yes, it does.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Did I read it wrong?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: It's number 32.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I read it wrong. Damn,

I made a mistake. I mean I'm sorry, I made a mistake.

All right. No problem.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I'm still looking for a

motion.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll make the motion.

Gronauer. I'll make a motion to approve Baechler

Investigative Services, Incorporated, for a new

corporate private investigator and process server

license. Jeremiah Baechler is applying for an

individual private investigator and process server

license. If approved, he is requesting that his

individual license be placed in abeyance so that he may

become the qualifying agent. The corporate officer to

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I have a motion by

Gronauer, a second by Colbert. Any discussion on the

motion?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Well, I just want to

comment on Mr. Baechler's honesty and forthcomingness.

And, also, I've been doing this three years, first time

I've seen letters of reference not only from your

landlord, but also your minister. So.

MR. BAECHLER: And the landlord is one of the

things I also wanted to present to the -- with my

application to the Board, back to that I've had no

delinquency. I'm sure my landlord would say rave good

things about me, hopefully.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: He did.

That's it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Any other comment from

the Board?

I'm going to support the motion. I think,

Mr. Baechler has indicated the financial issues was a

personal bankruptcy, not a corporate bankruptcy. And so

I'm going to support the motion. I think, he's done

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approve, signify by saying "aye."


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All those opposed?

It passes unanimously. Congratulations,

Mr. Baechler. Good luck.

MR. BAECHLER: Thank you very much.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Have a great day.

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chair, for the record, Kevin

Ingram. Could we take a short bio break before we get

into the registration appeals?

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Yes. I'm glad you

suggested that. Thank you very much.

We'll be on a 15-minute break.

* * * * *

(A break was taken 11:01 to 11:15 a.m.)

* * * * *

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Let's bring

it back into session.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Maybe not.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: We're all here.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. We're back

in session. See, I've gotten to use it twice today

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proceed, could we check and see if everybody's been

sworn in.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Good idea. Has

everybody here been sworn in?

Okay. Please stand.

We've got one up here.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Anybody here that has not

been sworn in, and you're going to speak before the

Board, please stand.

MS. BORDELOVE: Do we have everybody?

Okay. Raise your right hand. Do you swear to

tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the

truth?

(All appellants and witnesses present in

Carson City and Las Vegas were sworn.)



BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Thanks for the

reminder, Board Member Flynn. I forget about that.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: You're welcome, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. We're now in --

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Your load is heavy.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: We're now on

registration appeals.

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Barlow.

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chair, just now, two

additional people walked in the room and will need to be

sworn.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Let's go ahead and

swear them in.

MR. INGRAM: Okay. So those of you that just

stepped in, that have not been sworn in yet, in you'll

go ahead and stand and raise your right hand, please.

MS. BORDELOVE: Do you swear to tell the truth,

the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

(Additional appellants and witnesses present in

Las Vegas were sworn.)

MR. INGRAM: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Let's go

down the list. Artice O. Barlow.

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Barlow?

He's not present.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. We'll trail

that.

Number 34, Grefford G. Dixon.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Not here.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: We'll trail number 34.

35, Jacara L. Fincher.

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MS. FINCHER: Good morning.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: This looks like

Investigator Maxwell. Please, Investigator, please

identify why this permit was denied.

MR. MAXWELL: Yes, sir. In June of 2010, out

of California, Ms. Fincher was arrested for possession

of a controlled substance for sale. It was at the

felony level. The disposition gives a four-month jail

term and five years probation. The arrest was disclosed

on the application and confirmed using the fingerprint

report. Ms. Fincher was not made provisional.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Ms. Fincher,

would you please explain to us what the story is behind

all of this.

MS. FINCHER: At the time, I was a teen. And I

had just lost my father. He passed away to kidney

failure. My mother had just got sent to prison. So I

was pretty much on my own and trying to do what I can to

fend for myself.

It turned out to be a stupid mistake that,

apparently, I'm still paying for it.


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BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yes, sir.

Ms. Fincher, what was the substance that you

were selling?

MS. FINCHER: Is was crack cocaine.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. And what are you

doing these days?

MS. FINCHER: Right now, I'm currently employed

as a fill-out courier. February it'll be two years.

And I'm also employed at Amazon Windows, and I'm going

on a month there.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. Thank you.

MS. FINCHER: No problem.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Board Member Nixon, any

questions?



BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yes, sir.

Are you currently on paper?

MS. FINCHER: No.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You're off, then?

MS. FINCHER: Yeah. That was only for five

years.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Right.

MS. FINCHER: And, yeah, I didn't get in

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working on.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You're still working on

that?

MS. FINCHER: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I'm good with

that. I'm good.


Colbert?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Just for

those present, this is an administrative hearing. There

is no public comment elicited on any of these denial

appeals.

So we'll just proceed to Board action. I would

accept a motion.


motion to grant the appeal based on time, distance, the

fact that it didn't involve violence or a weapon.



BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So we have a motion by

Board Member Flynn, a second by Board Member Colbert.

Discussion on the motion?


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Ms. Fincher, your appeal has been granted, and

you will be issued a card.

MS. FINCHER: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: You're welcome.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Good luck to you. Merry

Christmas.

MS. FINCHER: Thank you. That sounds good.

MR. INGRAM: Those of you that are approved in

this process, you will be notified by one of our office

staff within the next three to five business days.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Mr. Chair?

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Yes?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: We had a request,

applicant number 63, if he could go sooner.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Is there a reason for

the request?

MR. INGRAM: Reason for the request.

MR. SALADINO: The reason for the request, just

the individual is in a wheelchair, and it's kind of

tight in here. So we're just looking to accommodate

him.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Sounds reasonable to

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BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. Mr. Jackson.

MR. JACKSON: Good morning.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Good morning to you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Investigator Saladino,

was this your case?

MR. SALADINO: Yes, sir. Investigator

Saladino. Mr. Jackson was denied for a 2007 felony

burglary conviction, which the applicant disclosed the

conviction, provided court docs. And he was honorably

discharged from probation in '09. It was actually

October 24th of '09.

And that's why we're here today.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Mr. Jackson,

would you be kind enough to explain the circumstances of

all this.

MR. JACKSON: Yeah, I was -- I was -- I had

just turned 18. And I was with some peers of mine. And

we -- I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

And I just got -- I made a stupid mistake with the wrong

people.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. I'm going to

ask. Did you do any prison time or jail time?

MR. JACKSON: No. Yeah, I did, I had a -- I

had a -- maybe did like -- no, I didn't really do any,

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. All right. Are

there any questions from the Board? Board Member

Gronauer?


The follow-up question is that you didn't do

any prison time; did you jail time?

MR. JACKSON: Yes, I did.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Local jail?

MR. JACKSON: The G.I. county jail, two months.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Investigator, when --

you know, which -- you say you're here on one charge,

right? That's the one he didn't disclose?

MR. SALADINO: He disclosed the charge.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay.

MR. SALADINO: It was only the one. The

applicant has no other arrests.



BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Have you been working

since this incident?

MR. JACKSON: Yes, I have.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: What do you do?

MR. JACKSON: I've been working at -- I worked

at numerous retail stores, but I've recently been

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have recently got hired at Staff Pro. That's pretty

much it.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay. Thank you.


BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: What did you burglarize

back in '07?

MR. JACKSON: It was Radio Shack.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right. Nothing

further.



BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. No

additional questions from the Board. I would entertain

a motion.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair, I would move

that Aaron Jackson's denial be reversed.



BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll -- sorry.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: We second.


Board Member Nixon.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair, that's all

based upon time and distance and no further issues.

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discussion, Board Member Colbert.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: I base that on the time

and distance and nothing of any violence involved there,

and.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Any other

discussion by the Board?

All right. With that said, all in favor of the

motion to reverse the denial, signify by saying "aye."




Mr. Jackson.

MR. JACKSON: Thank you.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You're welcome. Merry

Christmas.

MR. JACKSON: Thank you, Mr. Gronauer. Thank

you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: We'll revert back to

the agenda. We'll go to item number 36, Jovani S.

Fulton.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Is Mr. Fulton here?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Not present.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: He's not there?


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one.

Number 37, Cameron L. Lyles.

MR. INGRAM: He's present.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right.

MR. LYLES: Good morning, sir.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I believe, this is

Investigator Maxwell.

MR. MAXWELL: Yes, sir. In June of 2012,

Mr. Lyles was arrested in California for carrying a

concealed dirk or dagger. This was a misdemeanor

offense. And he received three years probation. The

applicant did disclose the arrest and listed the

disposition as a dismissal. The applicant was made

provisional. The fingerprint report confirmed the

arrest, which showed the disposition as a conviction.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Mr. Lyles, could you

explain the circumstances of the arrest and the

confusion as far as determining, you indicating that it

had been dismissed.

MR. LYLES: Well, at the time, I had got

arrested for riding a minibike without a helmet, and I

had a knife I used to tune to idle on the minibike.

And I had put this, listed that I completed the

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person at the PILB, and she said put, if you finished

the case, then put dismiss. So, in my eyes, I believed

it was dismissed, since I finished the three years

probation. I didn't try to hide it. I just didn't word

it correctly. And for that, I apologize.


questions from the Board? Board Member Nixon?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Have you been working?

MR. LYLES: Yes. I do light warehouse work

with Staffmark at the moment. I've been doing that for

about six months.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: M-hm (affirmative).



Mr. Lyles, how long have you been living in

Las Vegas?

MR. LYLES: I've been out here for about a year

now.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. And you're in

California the whole other time?

MR. LYLES: Yes, sir.



BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: When was your probation

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MR. LYLES: Well, the case is seven years old.

I honestly can't remember, sir. But at the time, it had

to be around, I would say, about twenty -- 2015, I

believe.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, because I mean

arrest date, you know, and when you go to court, you

know, there's always a distance there, time and

distance. That's what I was trying to figure out.

Mr. Maxwell, is there a way to confirm that the

probation was taken care of?

MR. MAXWELL: I'd have to check when I get back

to the office, sir.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. And you

understand why I want this, you get arrested one time,

and you may not go to court for two years, for certain

circumstances and all that. So. Okay. No problem.

But you -- I don't know if you said that. You're off

probation?

MR. LYLES: Yes, sir, I completed probation

years ago.




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weapon. It was a weapons violation, correct?

MR. MAXWELL: Yes, sir, that's correct.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Even though it

was a misdemeanor. Okay. That clarifies it for me.

Any other questions by the Board?

Seeing none, I would accept a motion.


motion to grant the appeal.

I'm basing this on the fact that the California

authorities decided to charge him with a misdemeanor.

This is not a firearm. We did not have any evidence

that he's been in trouble since. And which is usually a

problem here, people don't disclose. He did disclose.

And I understand, especially coming out of the

California system, sometimes people have confusion

whether their probation just went away or it was

dismissed. It's not the first time we've heard that

from California residents.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. We have a motion

by Board Member Flynn. Do we have a second?

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It passed unanimously. Congratulations,

Mr. Lyles. You will get your permit.

MR. LYLES: All right. Thank you, you guys.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: You have a good day.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Moving on to number 38,

Terry L. Moses.

MR. MOSES: Good morning.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Good morning, Mr. Moses.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Good morning,

Mr. Moses.

MR. INGRAM: Have you been sworn?

Okay. Mr. Moses came in a little bit late. He

needs to be sworn before the testimony.



Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and

nothing but the truth?

MR. MOSES: Yes.

MS. BORDELOVE: Okay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Mr. Moses,

hold on just a second.

Investigator Maxwell, is this yours?

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MR. MAXWELL: All of the arrests were out of

New Jersey. November of 1997, possession of marijuana,

possession of burglary tools. The level was not known.

Disposition was 60 days suspended confinement and one

year probation.

July of '91, receiving stolen property at

felony level. The disposition was 364 days jail, two

years probation.

June 1994, receiving stolen property at felony

level. The disposition was 364 days in the Essex County

pen.

September of 1996, two counts, one a felony

burglary, one a felony theft. The dispo was 364 days

jail, three years probation.

April of '97, criminal trespass at felony

level. The disposition was aggregated sentence from

October 1999, state prison 18 months, minus 113 days for

time served. On 8-8 of '97, the probation was revoked,

and the applicant was sent to New Jersey State Prison

for four years, less 145 days for time served.

None of the arrests were disclosed, and were

found on the fingerprint report. The applicant did

disclose a 2008 arrest in South Carolina for misdemeanor

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applicant was not made provisional.


Investigator.

Mr. Moses, would you please kind of give us a

rundown of all of this. It looks to me like you had

quite a run there in the mid '90s. Can you explain what

was going on then and the reason why you did not

disclose?

MR. MOSES: I didn't -- well, I was in my 20s.

And I had a hard time in New Jersey. I was like,

basically, homeless, and I was just doing what I could

to eat back in that time. But I did let them know that

I had a felony warrant, not a warrant, but I had a

jacket.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. I'm sorry. Did

you indicate why you did not disclose?

MR. MOSES: I thought I did. I should have,

because before I got the job, they told me I might as

well just go ahead and be honest and let them know if I

was arrested or not. So that's what I did.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. All right. Any

questions from the Board? Board Member Gronauer?


When did you get out of prison?

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I got out in 2006 for my --

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: 2006?

MR. MOSES: Right.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where were you

extradited from?

MR. MOSES: From South Carolina. From South

Carolina.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: From South Carolina.

Okay. Well, where have you lived -- how long have you

lived in Las Vegas?

MR. MOSES: Eight months.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Are you employed now?

MR. MOSES: No, I'm not.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: When's the last time

you were employed?

MR. MOSES: October.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: October this year?

MR. MOSES: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Who were you employed

by?

MR. MOSES: SOS Security.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Why aren't you employed

by them now?

MR. MOSES: Because of my guard card.

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you reported all these on your application?

MR. MOSES: Yes, I did. And before I got --

the guy that hired me, I told him and everything. He's

like, well, this is so long ago, it shouldn't even

matter.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Who said that?

MR. MOSES: The guy that hired me for SOS

Security.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. Well, he

has a license. He knows it does matter that you report

everything.

MR. MOSES: Right.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And you know that now,

right?

MR. MOSES: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. How much time

did you build altogether in prison?

MR. MOSES: Well --

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: How much time did you

spend in prison? I'm sorry.

MR. MOSES: Altogether, maybe three years.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Pardon?

MR. MOSES: Probably three years.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. And you had time

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MR. MOSES: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Where do you

live now?

MR. MOSES: Right now, I just moved to -- I

don't even know the name of the place. (Looked in

wallet.) Harbor Island Apartments.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Are you living

by yourself?

MR. MOSES: No. I have my spouse with me.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Does your spouse

work?

MR. MOSES: No, she don't. She's filed for

disability.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. I just --

thank you. I just want to make sure you're getting

solved. That's all.

MR. MOSES: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. Thank you.

MR. MOSES: Thank you.


Member Nixon?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: How long did you work for

SOS Security?

MR. MOSES: I started in -- about three and a

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BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay. Investigator

Maxwell, did you say he was not issued a guard card?

MR. MAXWELL: Correct, yes, he was not made

provisional.

MR. MOSES: I had a temporary guard card.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: So when you went to the

PILB to get your license, did you admit to the -- on

that paperwork, or did you do your paperwork at SOS

Security?

MR. MOSES: I did my paperwork at SOS Security.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: For your security license,

or for your job application?

MR. MOSES: I think -- did I? I think, no, I

think, I went to the place to do it.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Up in the northwest?

MR. MOSES: Right.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Yeah. Okay. And then did

you write on that paperwork that you had your

convictions?

MR. MOSES: Yes, I did. I'm pretty sure I did.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay.

MR. MOSES: That's why I'm not understanding.

The guy that hired me, he told me it shouldn't matter,

because it was over 20 years. But I'm quite sure I put

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anything, so I did.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I assume that we're

looking at something down there?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Sorry. Yes. Sorry about

that.


BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Mr. Chair, I got some

questions while we wait.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Go ahead, Board

Member Flynn.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Mr. Moses, what kind of

problems have you had with drugs?

MR. MOSES: Oh, I had some drug problems. When

I was in New Jersey, I was doing heroin, you know, bad.

It was real bad. I think, once I moved -- well, the

last time I went to prison there, you know, and once I

moved, I left my parole, I went to South Carolina. I

was doing better ever since. I haven't seen, I haven't

touched it. The move saved my life even though I ran

from parole.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: When was the last time

you got some sleep?

MR. MOSES: Sleep?

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pretty tired right now.

MR. MOSES: I'm not tired. Last night.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. I have nothing

else.


Colbert?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Did we find

out what they were looking for?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I think, they're still

looking.

MR. MAXWELL: One second, sir.


MS. IRIZARRY: Terry, what's your middle name?

MR. MOSES: Lee.

MS. IRIZARRY: So I do show that Terry Lee

Moses was made provisional on May 11th of '18, and his

provisional expired 8-9 of '18. But he was, obviously,

not given the permanent work card.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: So that -- excuse me.

Gronauer. So that would say that he had the

provisional?

MS. IRIZARRY: He was, during that time frame.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. So I'm trying to

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MR. SALADINO: Mr. Chairman, Investigator

Saladino. On the applicant's application, on page five,

where it's got spot that says to put down your arrest

history, he did disclose in '92 he was on probation out

of Irvington, California. Or Irvington, New Jersey. He

put a start date at '92, date completed '94. On page

six of the application, for more arrest history, have

you ever been convicted of a felony charge, he did

indicate yes on that. Also, he did disclose, in '07,

out of South Carolina, driving under a suspended

driver's license. And '92, simple assault out of

New Jersey.

So, yes, the applicant did disclose a few of

the arrests and did note that he was on probation and

stuff in the early '90s.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Thank you for

clarifying that. Appreciate that.

All right. Are there any other questions from

the Board?

Seeing none, I would entertain a motion.


we grant the appeal for Terry L. Moses, based upon time

and distance and the fact that he's lived in Nevada

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by Board Member Colbert. Do we have a second?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Second, but that he has

not lived here since '81, no.

MR. MOSES: No.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: No?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: He's only lived here

for about the last eight months. Eight months.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Oh, I'm sorry. I

thought I heard '81. Sorry.


motion. I'm sorry. We have a motion by Board Member

Colbert, a second by Board Member Gronauer. Any


Seeing no discussion, all in favor of the

motion, signify by saying "aye."

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Aye.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Aye.

All opposed, signify by saying "nay."

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Nay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So I didn't hear, I

didn't hear any votes from Gronauer or Nixon. Could we

clarify that.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Oh, I said "aye."

BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: They said "aye."

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I said "aye."



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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. So the

motion passes by a vote of four to one. And, Mr. Moses,

you will get your work card.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: You're welcome. Good

luck.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Good luck.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: We probably need to be

clear for the record that Flynn voted no.

THE REPORTER: Oh, yeah, I got that. It's on

the record.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. All right. We

now go to number 39, Lisa R. Priola.

MR. INGRAM: Lisa Priola?

Not present.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. We'll trail

that one.

Number 40, Charles A. Reynolds.

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Reynolds?

Not present.


Michael E. Stanley.

MR. INGRAM: He's present.



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MR. STANLEY: Good morning.


BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Good morning.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Again, I believe, this

is Investigator Paul Maxwell.

MR. MAXWELL: Yes, sir. Mr. Stanley returned.

He was initially at the September Board, where the Board

members asked him to get court documents or police

reports and then return in December.

The initial denial was for attempting to carry

a concealed weapon, and the severity was unknown, and he

got two years probation. This was in 1993 out of Ohio.

The arrest was not disclosed. It was found through the

fingerprint report. The applicant was made provisional

as the charge was not shown on the initial background

check.

The applicant, as stated, appeared at the

September Board and did not return with documents in

December. The applicant did attempt to get court

documents and has kept in contact with me throughout

this three-month period. This office also managed to

the get court records. And it was stated that he has

applied for expungement of the offense and, but he will

not hear anything until December 19th of this year. But

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Board's request.


Investigator.

Mr. Stanley, how do you attempt --

MR. STANLEY: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: -- to carry a concealed

weapon? Can you explain that, what the circumstances

were on that? And, also, why you did not disclose.

MR. STANLEY: Basically, when it happened was

that I had an argument with my wife, my ex-wife. And

the gun was in my car. And she had called because she

was upset. And when I pulled back into the driveway,

the Maple Heights police was there, and they came and

they asked me did I threaten her or anything like that.

I said no.

The other officer went to my car, went into my

car. The gun was purchased legally. I had the receipt

and everything for it. He went in, and he said that

because I didn't have the receipt in the car, that it

was illegal.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. So if I'm clear,

he said, because you didn't have the receipt in the car,

then it was illegal; is that what you said?

MR. STANLEY: Yes.




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MR. STANLEY: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And why did you not

disclose?

MR. STANLEY: Because I had filed my

expungement a long time ago. It was like in two

thousand and -- I want to say 2003 when I got off

probation. And I had obtained papers and everything.

Basically, when I went to get the papers for the Board,

I spoke to the bailiff that was handling the

expungement, and he told me that I would be receiving

all this information. So what happened was that they

had them a water damage situation. Because he called

me, and he told me that I would be receiving this before

I even came to the Board meeting that I would have.

And I explained that to Mr. Maxwell to let him

know that that's what I was told, and the information

should be coming. So I disclosed that to Mr. Maxwell to

let him know that that's what, that's the only reason

why I didn't have the papers today in my hand.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Are there any Board

questions? Board Member Flynn?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I just want to be clear.

The paperwork that we wanted from the courts for him to

get, what was that going to state?

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and the severity, and things like that, were requested

that last time at the September meeting.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Right.

MR. MAXWELL: And, also, any -- if it was

expunged or anything like that.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: But, for our knowledge, he

has not been in trouble since 1993?

MR. MAXWELL: No, sir.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. All right. Thank

you.

MR. SALADINO: Mr. Chair, Investigation

Saladino.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Yes.

MR. SALADINO: According to the court documents

from Ohio, it was a '93 arrest. There was two years of

probation, which he did serve. And he was also

scheduled for regular drug testing, attended a county

concealed weapons program, and had to pay some court

fees.

In 2008, the applicant did apply to seal the

record. And for some reason, the courts, there's a gap

between '08 and 2018. But the water damage to Ohio was

verified. And we were able to find this on their online

system, and it shows that the expungement or the sealing

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December 19th of this year.

So they are moving forward with the sealing of

it. It was a misdemeanor charge. And the applicant did

complete all the requirements of probation.


Investigator.

Board Member Nixon, do you have any questions?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No, sir. Thank you.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No, I do not. Thank

you.



BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Then

I'd entertain a motion.


motion that we grant his appeal. We have received

answers to our questions. We've got time and distance

of in excess of 25 years. Mr. Stanley has not been in

any trouble since then. And I appreciate his patience

and coming back.

MR. STANLEY: Thank you, sir.



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overturn the denial. Any discussion on the motion?


"aye."


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Anyone opposed?

Congratulations, Mr. Stanley. You will get a

work card.

MR. STANLEY: Thank you, sir.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Merry Christmas.

MR. STANLEY: Thank you. Happy holidays to

you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: We'll go to item

number 42, Joey L. Wells.

MR. INGRAM: He's in the south.

MR. WELLS: How are you all doing?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Good.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Good.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Good.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I believe, this is

Investigator Maxwell.

MR. MAXWELL: Yes, sir. November of 1996, out

of Louisiana, Mr. Wells was picked up for a DWI at

misdemeanor level. The disposition states one year

unsupervised probation. This was not disclosed.

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a vehicle while intoxicated at first degree, which is at

felony level. The fine was unsupervised probation.

This arrest was disclosed on the application as a

misdemeanor, but the fingerprint report showed this as a

felony.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Mr. Wells, would

you be kind enough to --

MR. WELLS: I have the paperwork that's showing

that I don't have a felony. I just got it the other

day.

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Wells, they're addressing you

right now.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I'm sorry. Now,

Mr. Wells, good afternoon. Mr. Wells, would you explain

to us both of those arrests and the reason why you did

not disclose the first DUI.

MR. WELLS: Oh, it was so many years ago, I

actually didn't even remember. I was like 19.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. So the paperwork

you gave Investigator Saladino, what was that paperwork?

MR. SALADINO: The applicant stated this was

showing that the felonies were not, were not felonies.

I'm just verifying the dates on it and looking over the

paperwork right quick.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Thank you.



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While they're verifying the paperwork, are

there any Board questions? Board Member Colbert?


On the most recent DUI, did you do any jail

time at all?

MR. WELLS: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: How much?

MR. WELLS: I did 30 days, and probation and

the fine.


MR. WELLS: And I was in there, and then I got

15 days extra. I was already in there for awhile, and

then they gave me 15 more days.


MR. WELLS: For like with the fine.


Gronauer?

MR. WELLS: And then probation.


Gronauer, do you have any questions?


Mr. Wells, are you still having any, did you or

are you still having any problems with alcohol?

MR. WELLS: I went to rehab. And I drink a

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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: When did you --

MR. WELLS: And I don't drink and drive.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: When did you go to

rehab?

MR. WELLS: About, it would be around, a little

over a year ago. I went twice.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Explain the

twice. I don't know what that means. So you were going

a year ago and then before that?

MR. WELLS: Yeah, I went before, a long time

ago. And I was clean for a long time. And then I

started back, and my wife wanted me to go back to rehab.

So I went back to rehab. Because she don't want me

drinking.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do you have a valid

driver's license?

MR. WELLS: No, sir. I'm not driving anymore.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You do not have a valid

driver's license?

MR. WELLS: No, I do not.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. No, I'm just

asking you about it.

MR. WELLS: I don't, I don't drink and drive or

anything. Actually, I'm fixing to get a Nevada driver's

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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do you have a Nevada

ID?

MR. WELLS: That's what I'm fixing to get. I

got stood up by Louisiana.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. How long --

MR. WELLS: I've been here six months.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. So where do you

live?

MR. WELLS: I live on Boulder, 5600 Boulder,

Sportsman's.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Sportsman's. Okay. I

know the place.

MR. WELLS: My wife was here before me. And I

was working. And that's why I'm trying to get a card,

because I want to go back. Because I'm on disability.

And I was trying to work there. And then I come back

with my wife. And I'm trying to get my card so I can

work here, because I want to get off disability.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. So if you --

MR. WELLS: So I feel that I could go back to

work.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. That's good

enough for me. But the rest, the rest of it is you've

been here six months. Have you been working?

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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. Have you

been working?

MR. WELLS: I'm on disability.


MR. WELLS: And that's why I've got to have a

card to be able to do.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: What kind of work do

you plan on doing?

MR. WELLS: Guard.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do you have a job lined

up?

MR. WELLS: I've got a job at three companies.

Like I said, I just need my guard card.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Can you tell me --

MR. WELLS: Trinity --

(The Reporter indicated it's difficult to hear

Las Vegas.)

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: She's having a hard

time understanding. Say the last part where you've been

working at.

MR. WELLS: Most of my jobs I worked long

times.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Oh, okay. I'm sorry.

MR. WELLS: When I worked, I worked always like

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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And now you applied for

three different jobs, right?

MR. WELLS: Right. They told me just bring my

guard card.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where are the jobs?

MR. WELLS: Sir?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: What companies?

MR. WELLS: Trinity, Allied, and Green Valley.



do we have an answer to your question?

MR. SALADINO: Yes, Mr. Chair. We do have

court documents from Louisiana showing that the

applicant did plead guilty to the DUI offense and that

it was dismissed, as he completed all the requirements

for the courts. And I do have that stamped from the

clerk of the courts out of Louisiana.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. All right. Do

we have any more Board questions?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: No.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Seeing none, I would

accept a motion.

For purposes of discussion, I'll make a motion

that the appeal be overturned. Is there a second?

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there another motion?

With the lack of any motion or an action, the

denial is upheld. Mr. Wells, your appeal has been --

has not been overturned. So. Or it's not been

approved. So, therefore, you will not be issued a work

card. And you have a year. In a year, you can reapply.

MR. WELLS: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Counsel, is that the

correct route?

MS. BORDELOVE: Because it's an official appeal

to the Board, I would recommend that the Board take an

action, one direction or the other.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll make a motion.

I'll make a motion. Gronauer. I make a motion that the

appeal of Mr. Joey L. Wells be denied for the

registration.


by Board Member Gronauer. Do we have a second on that

motion?



Board Member Colbert. Any discussion on the motion?

I'm going to vote against the motion, based on

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overturning the appeal. So I will be voting in

opposition to the motion.


"aye."


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Those opposed? Nay.

So the motion passes four to one. All right.

So, again, Mr. Wells, your appeal has been denied. You

can come back in a year and reapply.

MR. WELLS: Thank you.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Number 43, Bruce A.

Willis.

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Willis?

Not present.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Then we'll

trail Willis.

Number 44, Alfredo Y. Esteban.

MR. ESTEBAN: Good afternoon.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Good afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Good afternoon,

Mr. Esteban.

MR. ESTEBAN: How's it going?

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Give me just one

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All right. This looks like this is

Investigator Donald.

MS. DONALD: Yes. Investigator Donald. In

December of 2017, he was convicted of a misdemeanor

possession of drugs, received a suspended sales

sentence, fines. It's now completed.

March of 2009, convicted of a misdemeanor,

possession controlled substance with prior, and received

a fine and a work program.

February of 2009, convicted of a misdemeanor,

lewd and lascivious conduct. He received credit for

time served.

February of 2009, convicted of a gross

misdemeanor for unlawful possession of a controlled

substance. This started out as a felony but was reduced

to a gross misdemeanor. Suspended jail sentence and

probation, which was completed as of May of 2012.

January of 2009, convicted of a misdemeanor DUI

and possession of a controlled substance. He received

fines, community service and traffic school.

Although Mr. Esteban isn't convicted of any

felonies or weapons charges, I went ahead and denied him

for failure to disclose the arrests. Once I ran it

through SCOPE, I was able to go online and pull up the

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disposition of the five arrests.


Investigator.

Mr. Esteban, is there a reason why you did not

disclose any of these?

MR. ESTEBAN: Honestly, I didn't, I wasn't so

concerned with how to disclose things. So I didn't

write on it, when I signed up for it, I didn't write on

the paperwork any of my, what I had, because I wasn't so

sure of what I had on my record.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Do we have any

questions from the Board? Board Member Flynn?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Mr. Esteban, you're saying

you don't remember an arrest from a year ago?

MR. ESTEBAN: With all -- what do you mean by

disclose?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Well, disclose means you

have to tell us if you've ever been arrested or

convicted or jailed or imprisoned.

MR. ESTEBAN: Yeah. Right. No, I forgot to,

honestly.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: So you forgot an arrest

from a year ago for the possession of drugs --

MR. ESTEBAN: Yeah.

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Okay. Thank you. Appreciate your answer.


BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Are you currently working?

MR. ESTEBAN: Yeah, I actually work two

part-time jobs, as a parking lot attendant down by the

Strip. That's where I heard from the security, so I

thought it would be -- that's why I applied for it. And

I work at a Trop Stop at a car wash.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Investigator

Gronauer?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: How about Board Member?

I could be an investigator, whatever you want.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: He'd be a heck of an

investigator.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You can you me Mrs.

All right. Mr. Esteban, a year ago, that

arrest, what was the drugs involved?

MR. ESTEBAN: It was cocaine.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And it was a

misdemeanor?

MR. ESTEBAN: Yeah, because I was at -- it was

at the wrong -- I was at the wrong place at the wrong

time. And it was just not me involved in the situation.

There was other, other peers of mine in there.

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arrested, though, it was a felony, and then they knocked

if down to a misdemeanor?

MR. ESTEBAN: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. So I understand

that part. All right. Thank you. Appreciate it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So Board Member

Colbert?



additional questions from the Board?

Seeing none, I'd accept a motion.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. I make a

motion for denial for Mr. Alfredo Y. Esteban on his

appeal.



Gronauer and a second by Nixon to uphold, uphold the

appeal. Excuse me. Uphold the denial.


Hearing none, all in favor of the motion,




The denial was upheld by a unanimous vote.

Mr. Esteban, you can reapply in a year.



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MR. ESTEBAN: All right. Thank you.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Thank you.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Good luck.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Number 45, Jaime

Garcia-Mendoza.

MR. INGRAM: He's in the south. And,

Mr. Chair, we'll be using a translator. Gisela Corral

will be translating for us.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. That sounds

fine.

This looks like Investigator Donald again.

MS. DONALD: Yes. August of 2007,

Mr. Garcia-Mendoza was convicted of a felony for one

count of DUI with priors and one count of forced assault

with a deadly weapon not a firearm. He received three

years in prison for the DUI and prior, and one year in

prison for the force.

2005, in December, he had one count of DUI.

The disposition was unknown.

July of 2004, one count of force, assault with

a deadly weapon. The disposition was unknown. Which

could possibly be related to the 2007 arrest as well.

2011, June, felony conviction for one count of

DUI with alcohol. He was sentenced to 16 months in

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In May of 2001, one count of DUI. Disposition

is unknown.

And May of 1996, convicted of receiving known

stolen property. It was unclear if it was a felony or a

misdemeanor, but he was sentenced to 180 days in jail

and received three years probation.

All the arrests were out of California, and he

did not close these.


Investigator.

Is it possible Mr. Garcia-Mendoza can explain

to us why none of these were disclosed, and explain the

circumstances?

(Ms. Corral interpreted for the appellant.)

MS. CORRAL: Okay. The reason why he did not

disclose any of the arrests is because he does not read

or write English. So, therefore, he brought someone

with him to fill out the application at the PILB office,

and that person did not, never asked him to list any

arrests, so he didn't.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Are there any

question from the Board? I'll start with Board Member

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BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yes, I have a couple.

Can he explain to us the circumstances of the

firearms arrest?


MS. CORRAL: Does he have a firearm? Which

one?

MS. DONALD: It's not a firearm. It's a count

of force, assault with a deadly weapon, but not a

firearm.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. I misread that. My

apologies.

MS. CORRAL: Do you still want him to explain?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yeah, if you want to

explain what we were told what the deadly weapon was.


MS. CORRAL: So what year was that?

MS. DONALD: In 2007.


MS. CORRAL: Okay. So in regards to that

arrest, he was working at a "fav-ay," like a factory, he

said. And a lot of different employees used to fool

around. And one time, he was actually playing around

with another employee, and he pushed him, and the

employee actually got hurt, because he hit himself with

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were working on, and so he cut himself. So he got

arrested, and they said that he was using a deadly

weapon, not item firearm, but he was actually not in

possession of any knife or anything like that, any form

of deadly weapon.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. And how long has he

lived in Las Vegas?


MS. CORRAL: Since 2010.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: And what's he been doing

here the last eight years?


MS. CORRAL: He's always been employed by a

casino. Currently, he works at the Silver Legacy.





BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, I have a couple.

First of all, not a firearm. All right. It's

2004. Then, it may be related to the 2007. I agree

with that. But is that the truth?

(Ms. Corral interpreted for and conversed with

the appellant.)

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to clarify. So, absolutely, it was, it's always been

just one single case of the use of deadly weapon not a

firearm.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. And, now, has he

attended any DUI classes or any kind of alcohol classes

or rehabs?


MS. CORRAL: Yes, he did attend DUI classes,

and he's been to AA --

MR. GARCIA-MENDOZA: AA.

MS. CORRAL: -- AA class. Everything was back

in California. He does have a valid driver's license

here in Nevada.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: He does have a valid

driver's license?

MS. CORRAL: Correct.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Does he drink now,

alcohol?


MS. CORRAL: No, he does not drink anymore. He

likes to drive his car.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And we have no record

of any other arrests since then?


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ever since.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Can I have a follow-up

question?


BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Why did he apply for a

guard card now?


MS. CORRAL: Because he's always worked at a

casino. Right now, he just had surgery. So every

single employment at the casino, it's kind of like a

hard kind of job for his condition right now. So he's

trying to look for something, you know, easier.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Any other Board

questions?


BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Mr. Chair, Ray Flynn.

I'll make a motion to grant the appeal. But this is the

first one for me. Because, normally, in my record of

voting is people that don't disclose, I automatically

say no. But the fact with the language barrier, and he

brought somebody in to fill out the application for him,

and the fact that he has not been in trouble since

living in Nevada, he's got a long-term employment, and

nothing, and no arrests in Nevada, I'm going to

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to grant the appeal. Do we have a second on that

motion?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second, based on the

same reasons, I think, the language barrier.


motion by Board Member Flynn, second by Board Member

Nixon. Any discussion on the motion?



BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All opposed?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No. No. Nay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So we have -- the

motion passes four to one, with Board Member Gronauer

voting no.

All right. Ma'am, would you advise

Mr. Garcia-Mendoza that he will receive his work card.


MS. CORRAL: He thanks.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: De nada.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. We'll go to

number 46, Dale A. Imbriani.

Sir, did I pronounce your last name correctly?

MR. IMBRIANI: Yes, "Im-bree-AWN-ee."

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looks likes, Investigator Donald, you're up again.

MS. DONALD: In October of 1982, Mr. Imbriani

was convicted of a felony for aggregated assault on a

police officer. So, he was convicted. The court

provision was that he abide by the court restrictions.

He did. And, but he did not disclose the arrest. That

was his only arrest.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. So,

Mr. Imbriani, could you explain the circumstances of the

arrest and, also, why you did not disclose.

MR. IMBRIANI: Yes. Actually, I truly thought

it was dismissed. But at the time of the arrest, my

buddy got arrested for a DUI. And one of the officers

slammed his head against the top of the car. I got

upset, grabbed the officer, told him he didn't need to

slam his head. And that was it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Do we have any

questions from the Board? Board Member Flynn?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: How long have you lived in

Nevada?

MR. IMBRIANI: We have a place here and, also,

in Phoenix. So we've had a place here for four years,

four years now.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: And what do you do for

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MR. IMBRIANI: We own a repo company.


MR. IMBRIANI: So I owned Night Hawk Recovery

since '91. We are in Phoenix, Kingman, Flagstaff. And

then went through a divorce and had to close it down.

Changed the name to B.O.L.O. Auto Recovery. And we

opened up here four years ago and, also, in Phoenix.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. And you want the

work card for what?

MR. IMBRIANI: Well, I manage the employees.

And I just felt I should probably get one as well,

because all my employees have to have it, and our camera

drivers have to have it. Our office staff, I make them

get it. So I require everybody to get the card, so I

figured I should get one as well.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right. Maybe I need

help from Kevin.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Me, too.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Because I'm really

confused.

MR. INGRAM: Well, he's not a license holder.

So even if he's an owner, he's not a license holder.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. But --

MR. INGRAM: So he doesn't have any credentials

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Are you a corporate officer for the company?

MR. IMBRIANI: Well, manager, we'll say.

Because once I went through a divorce, and she was

trying to take everything, so.

MR. INGRAM: And how long have you been

associated with B.O.L.O. here in Nevada?

MR. IMBRIANI: Since we started four years ago.

MR. INGRAM: And you never received a work card

at that time?

MR. IMBRIANI: No, because I only come up here

from time to time. Just I come up and help Stephanie,

who's my girlfriend.

MR. INGRAM: Stephanie French?

MR. IMBRIANI: Right. She -- her mom was in a

car accident, in a coma, so, for over 30 days. So I had

to start coming up here a little bit and help out.

MR. INGRAM: And you understand that you have

to have a work card before you can actually work here in

Nevada?

MR. IMBRIANI: Correct.

MR. INGRAM: And you just testified under oath

that you're working here without a work card.

MR. IMBRIANI: Well, I -- I don't go out on the

road. So I have nothing to do with it. Because the

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MR. INGRAM: Okay. If you're an employee of a

license holder, you must have a registered work card

regardless of what duties or responsibilities you have.

MR. IMBRIANI: Okay. Getting it.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yeah, this would be an

easy one if you would have disclosed. You were 19, and

it was a long time ago. But I'm more concerned about --

and I'm sure staff will follow up. I'm more concerned

about the position you hold right now.

MR. IMBRIANI: Okay.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: And the fact that you're

not licensed. I think, that's actually something for

you to worry about now. This is minor.

MR. IMBRIANI: Okay.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I'm done.

MR. INGRAM: And, for the record, in an

instance where an employee is working for a license

holder without a work card, the citation would be issued

to the qualifying agent of B.O.L.O. Recovery, which

would be Stephanie French. She will be receiving a

citation for employing someone without a work card in

Nevada. They're responsible for allowing somebody to

work without a work card.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: And just, Mr. Chair, just

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I don't know how it's going to go. I mean you

can see we think differently. But if it goes in the

direction that you're not happy with, you can apply

again in a year. And if you disclosed, you know where I

stand.

MR. IMBRIANI: Okay.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Board Member Nixon, do

you have any --

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I'm done, Mr. Chair. I'm

done.


Nixon, do you have any questions?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No, I think, I'm good.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yes, Mr. Chairman.

B.O.L.O. Recovery is a licensed corporation?

MR. IMBRIANI: Correct.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. And your

position there is what?

MR. IMBRIANI: Well, I was trying to say, I've

been in Phoenix. So I've had to come up here for the --

a couple of times because of Stephanie's mom getting in

a car accident. So I told her that I would come up,

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Richard Peroni, that got a card, and he worked for us

for, I don't know, five years down in Phoenix. So he's

moved up here.

So I want to get a work card so I can come up

here and help. Me and Stephanie actually flew back

yesterday from Maui just so I could come here to this

hearing.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Well, I appreciate

that. You know, it's -- is Stephanie here?

MR. IMBRIANI: No. She's off, she's in

Phoenix.


MR. SALADINO: Mr. Chair, Investigator

Saladino. Prior to -- I'm sorry. I'm probably going to

butcher your name.

MR. IMBRIANI: It's all right.

MR. SALADINO: Prior to the applicant getting

his work card, Ms. French did reach out and asked about

how the application process would go, being that he does

manage the operations in California.

MR. IMBRIANI: Phoenix.

MR. SALADINO: In Phoenix.

MR. IMBRIANI: Right.

MR. SALADINO: The Secretary of State for

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it. And, you know, Ms. French did reach out to us and

asked how the application process would go for the work

card. I did know about her mother being in a car

accident and stuff.

So Stephanie did reach out to us, and we set

the process up with the appeal, knowing the criminal

history was there.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Thank you,

Investigator.

Investigator -- Board Member Colbert, do you

have any questions?


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'd like to continue

with one more.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Oh, I'm sorry. I

apologize.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That's okay.

But you've been coming up here for the last

four years, at times, so you've been actually doing

business without a license.

MR. IMBRIANI: Well, I come because I --


MR. IMBRIANI: I like Vegas. So. We have fun

at the concerts.

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MR. IMBRIANI: No. I just started coming two

months ago. Because I like Phoenix. I mean I like

Vegas for the night life, you know, and going to shows.

But I have a house in Phoenix. My friends are in

Phoenix. I teach in Phoenix. So.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Thank you.

MR. IMBRIANI: You're welcome.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Any other questions?

I didn't hear why you did not disclose. I

think, I missed it.

MR. IMBRIANI: Well, I think, they said it was

in '82. And I truly just -- I didn't, I didn't think of

anything back on '82. '82, I'd have been -- 1955, so.

You know, that's a lot of -- yeah, I'm trying.


All right. Are there any other questions from

the Board?

I'll accept a motion.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Ray Flynn. I'll make the

motion, based on my earlier comments, that we deny the

appeal based on disclosure. I've got no issues if he

reapplies in the time frame and discloses it.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I second.


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Board Member Gronauer. Discussion on the motion?

I have a couple comments from my position.

We're talking 36 years ago. I mean this Board has not

held that if someone failed to disclose that long ago,

unless there's aggravating circumstance and more recency

of issues.

As far as the issue goes, B.O.L.O., and him

working without a permit or a work card, he applied for

a work card, and it was denied. I just think the

circumstances are such that the appeal should be upheld.

So I will be voting no on this motion.

Any other comment from the Board, discussion?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Well, you know,

Mr. Chairman, I would really understand what you're

saying there, and I understand that about the time and

distance on that. But it seems like there's a

preponderance of evidence here about other things,

including working without a work card. So that just

creates me a problem. I'm sorry. That's the way I feel

about it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And, you know, this is

not an argument. I understand your position.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I didn't --

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I believe that

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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I didn't think it's

argument.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I believe that B.O.L.O.

is trying to put forth good effort to try to meet

statutory and regulatory requirements. So, again, you

know, we can disagree on the thing.

So that. And unless there's additional

discussion, all in favor of the motion, signify by

saying "aye."


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And those opposed?

Nay.

So the motion passes four to one.

Mr. Imbriani, you may come back in a year and apply.

MR. IMBRIANI: Okay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: But understand that if

you're working for B.O.L.O., B.O.L.O. is now subject to

information that they have employees working without

proper registration.

MR. IMBRIANI: Right. Yeah, I stay in Phoenix,

so. All right. Thanks.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. We have

number 47, Markus Moore. He's up here.

MR. MOORE: Good afternoon, ladies and

gentlemen of the Board. And I'd like to say I am very



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appreciative that I've been given this opportunity to

appeal and speak to the Board.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So, I believe,

Investigator Donald, you're still up.

MS. DONALD: Yep. Mr. Moore was convicted in

Utah in 2015 for possession of a weapon. He was

originally charged with a felony, but it was reduced to

a misdemeanor. He had to pay a fine, did some jail time

and probation. The applicant did disclose the arrest

and has had no other incidences.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Mr. Moore,

would you explain the circumstances.

MR. MOORE: Yes. Oddly enough, when I was

living in Utah, I was living with my ex-girlfriend at

the time. And I had just -- we were renting out a room

from her mom's house. And, well, after I paid the rent,

her and her mom got in a very big argument. She left.

But I was planning on like moving down here to Nevada at

the end of that month. And I already paid her rent, and

she talked to me, and she asked when's the soonest I can

move out. I told her I could be out by the end of the

week. That didn't work for her. So.

And she knew that my father had just bought me

a Desert Eagle .44. She called the cops and said that

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in her house. And, well, it escalated from there. I

let the cops in. I showed them exactly where they could

find the weapon. It was Condition 4, which means no

magazine in the magazine well, no round in the chamber,

and the weapon's on safe. I also had a trigger lock on

it. And it was locked inside of another drawer.

So I didn't see any real problem with that.

The issue that they had, when they found it, is that

even though I was renting the room and sharing it with

another person, they did find paraphernalia in the same

room. And even though the weapon was locked away in a

locked drawer, they still considered it within the

vexus.

So since that -- they took me into jail. And

we came to a plea agreement. Since it was my first

offense, it was nonaggressive, I completely complied

with every order that the officers gave me, they were

able to drop it down to a misdemeanor, the attempted

possession by a restricted person.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Board questions?




BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yes, sir. Mr. Moore.

MR. MOORE: Yes, sir.



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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: It's the first time I

heard by a restricted person. What does that mean?

MR. MOORE: I think, it has something to do

with specifics within Utah law. I can't really go into

that. Your guess is as good as mine, sir. It was just

the lesser charge.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Can I ask the

investigator, do we have anything deeper on that?

MS. DONALD: That was his only arrest.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: It doesn't say

restricted person or anything? Because what I consider

is a restricted person is a little different, I guess.

MS. DONALD: Exactly. But, no prior record,

other than that one arrest and conviction.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where have you lived

prior to Utah?

MR. MOORE: I'm sorry, sir. What was that?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where were you residing

prior to Utah?

MR. MOORE: I was in Florida. And then, before

that, I was in Idaho. And before that, I was in

California. And before that, I was in Okinawa, Japan.

And before that, Afghanistan. And before that,

California again. And then Butte, Montana. And then

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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Most of that

traveling is because of the military service or perish

military?

MR. MOORE: The military service, sir, United

States Marine Corps.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Hm. Okay. All right.

Thank you.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I -- oh, I'm sorry.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No, you can.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: No, I got to wait for you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: No, go ahead. Go

ahead, Board Member Flynn.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I'm ahead of myself.

For the applicant, in Utah, a restricted person

most commonly means, not like Nevada, means it's drug

user. So what kind of paraphernalia was in the room?

MR. MOORE: Marijuana. It was just a pipe. It

want any drugs. It was just used paraphernalia.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yeah, I know what

paraphernalia is. But if they found dope there, they

would have arrested you for dope. So that's what the

restriction, that's why you got arrested for the

restriction, my guess.

MR. MOORE: Oh.

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were in possession of a firearm in your room, along with

evidence of drug use. What are you doing now --

MR. MOORE: I'm a door dasher, sir.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: -- for employment?

MR. MOORE: I'm employed as a door dasher, sir.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Is that it?

Board Member Nixon?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I'm good. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. What's a

door dasher?

MR. MOORE: It's like Uber, but for food.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Oh.

MR. MOORE: Yeah, you go and pick up people's

order and you drive it to them.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Door dasher.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Thank you.

I lived on the wrong side of the railroad tracks.

Nobody wants to deliver to my address.


BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Was the weapon returned

to you, or they just confiscated it?

MR. MOORE: They confiscated it. I guess, they

wanted it. I never even fired it. And my dad just

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a gift. And he told me, he was like, "Son, I found the

greatest deal, and it's only this price because there's

a scratch on it, never been fired before." I'm like,

"Well, thank you." I could have really preferred money

instead of a gun, but.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. By the way,

thank you for your service.

MR. MOORE: Yes, sir. I had the best job in

all of the Marine Corps. I was a combat engineer.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: You have a fellow

Marine right there.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Up here.

MR. MOORE: Yeah?

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: On this end of the

Board.

MR. MOORE: Semper Fi, sir?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Semper Fi.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So. All right. Any

additional questions?

If not, I'd accept a motion.


we grant the appeal.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I have a motion by --


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: -- by Board Member



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Colbert, and we have a second by Board Member Nixon.


All in favor, say "aye."



It passes unanimously. Congratulations.

You'll get your work card.

MR. MOORE: Thank you, members of the council.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Board, but that's all

right.

MR. MOORE: Board. I'm just excited.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: No, that's great. So

you can talk to Shawn there, and he'll explain the work

card.

MR. MOORE: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Moving

right along, are we okay, or did we need a break?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Anybody need a break?

No.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Then, we'll

move on to number 48, Albert Nava.

MR. NAVA: Las Vegas good afternoon everyone.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Gavin.

MR. NAVA: Good afternoon, everyone.




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MR. MOORE: Good afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Good afternoon,

Mr. Nava. Give me one moment.

MR. NAVA: Sure.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Investigator Donald,

this is yours?

MS. DONALD: Yes, it is. Mr. Nava was

convicted in California in 2010 for a misdemeanor

possession of a switchblade. He received three years

probation and a 30-day suspended jail sentence. He

disclosed this arrest and has had no other incidences.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Would you,

Mr. Nava, would you explain to us the circumstances of

the arrest.

MR. NAVA: Yeah. So what happened was, in

2010, I believe it was June of that year, I was on my

way home from visiting a friend's father that was

recently put in the hospital. I was pulled over by a

Temple City sheriff's unit. Upon being pulled over, I

realized that I didn't have my wallet. And my -- I list

that my truck was registered to at the time. My uncle,

also, who didn't live with me, had his forwarding

address sent there. I guess, he had a warrant for his

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truck and found my work knife. Which it wasn't an

actual stiletto switchblade. It was more of a -- was

kind of like a little handle with an open end to

unfolding it. They, I guess, took me in because of that

and not having my driver's license on me. And I tried

telling them. I gave them my birthday and my social,

driver's license number and everything. They took me

in. I spent two days in their lockup and was bailed out

by my family.

The 30 days suspended jail time was actually --

I did 30 days in service. But I mean I had never heard

that term, specific, suspended jail time. But the three

years that I did, I didn't have a parole officer or

anything or a probation officer. I, three years, went

through probation, worked off on and on, different jobs.

And, I believe, I did file to have it expunged

from my record. I'm not sure if it shows that. But

that was pretty much par for the course for what

happened.


Board Member Gronauer ("Jen-our")?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: "Jen-our."

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Every time, it's a

different name, but I like it.

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trying to get through it.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Well, let me ask you

one question here, Mr. Nava.

MR. NAVA: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where to you work now?

MR. NAVA: Right now, I'm currently employed

with Meineke Auto Center as a mechanic.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do you have your work

knife on you now?

MR. NAVA: No, they took that back in 2010.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do you have a work

knife?

MR. NAVA: No, I carry at work a box-cutter in

case I need to cut a piece of hose or anything like

that. I stopped carrying --

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You don't have that

box-cutter now?

MR. NAVA: No.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Just checking.

Do you have any weapons on you right now?

MR. NAVA: No, no weapons on me whatsoever.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. I have no

problem.


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BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Where's Temple City in

California?

MR. NAVA: Temple City is in the San Gabriel

Valley, which is, from what I see on the maps is it

looks southeast, I guess, we would consider.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. I just want to know

where we're going.

I have no other questions.



BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yeah, yes.

Was that, was it a spring-operated knife, or

was it just all finger-flicked open?

MR. NAVA: No, sir. It was a -- it wasn't

spring-operated. It was just -- it had a -- it was a

locking knife that had a -- like a little lever on it to

assist pulling the blade out, and then you would fold

that and you would click it till it locked.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: All right. And how big

was this knife?

MR. NAVA: Like about the size of my palm.

Half of it was serrated. So that's why I had it, it was

used as a tool. But they just classified it as a

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BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Okay. All right. Thank

you. No further.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Any other

questions?



motion to grant the appeal, based on time, distance.

It's a single offense. And he hasn't been in trouble

since. And he did disclose.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I have a motion for

approval of the appeal. Do we have a second?



Colbert. All right. Any discussion on the motion?


"aye."


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Those opposed, "nay."

The motion passes unanimously. Mr. Nava, you

will get your work permit.

MR. NAVA: I've heard you say how long it

takes, three to five business days?

MR. INGRAM: Yes, you'll be contacted by one of

our staff within three to five business days.



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MR. NAVA: Oh, okay, a phone call?

MR. INGRAM: Yes.

MR. NAVA: All right. Is that it?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: That's it.

MR. NAVA: All of you, have a good afternoon

the rest of your day.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Agenda item

number 49, Christopher Thomas.

MR. THOMAS: Good afternoon.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Good afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Give me just one

second.

All right. Investigator Donald.

MS. DONALD: Mr. Thomas was denied for a

weapons charge. In 2015, he was convicted of a

misdemeanor carrying a loaded firearm. He served 45

days in jail and received three years probation. He

disclosed the arrest.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Mr. Thomas,

would you explain to us the circumstances of the arrest,

please.

MR. THOMAS: Yes. I was driving home, and

before I reached home, I picked up a friend. And when

he got in the car -- I was dropping him off. And he hid

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there. When I got to the stoplight, I didn't yield all

the way, I kept going. There was a cop on my left-hand

side, I seen him. He pulled me over.

When they searched the car, the gun looked to

be like a little cap gun. So it didn't have no grip to

it or nothing. So when the cop searched it, they asked

me did I know it was in the car, and I told them no.

They took me in. When I went before the judge,

he said it was just a misdemeanor because they didn't

find it on me. I served, I was going to say 45 days.

They released me Saturday morning. And I served three

years summary probation.

I got out. After I got out, I moved out here

to Nevada, started working under a Safe Security, turned

out to be it wasn't even a real company, because he

wasn't licensed. The investigator came on the site when

I was in uniform and asked me for my paperwork. I

didn't have it, because the job that I was going to was

supposed to take care of everything and license me as a

security guard, and a work card. But it turned out that

the company was not legit. And to this day, they're

still looking for him.


MR. SALADINO: Mr. Chair, Investigator

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MR. SALADINO: When we did arrive on site,

Mr. Thomas was very cooperative. He was new to Nevada.

He didn't understand all the rules and stuff that he

needed to abide by. He was very cooperative with

helping us in regards to our investigation with the

unlicensed activity. And I told him, you know, by all

means, you should apply for a work card. There's an

appeal process.

And you know, that's why we're here today for

the appeal.


Investigator.

Board questions? Board Member Flynn?


Mr. Thomas, a couple things. One, here it says

three years summary probation. So, normally,

California, summary probation means there's also other

conditions. Did you have community service?

MR. THOMAS: No, I just had to --

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Classes?

MR. THOMAS: No.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: What?

MR. THOMAS: I just had to stay out of the way

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BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. I appreciate that.

That's a good condition. But you're still on probation.

MR. THOMAS: No. I'm done.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right. You're going

to have to explain that one to me. My math isn't that

bad. You were arrested on 12-30 of 2015.

MR. THOMAS: M-hm (affirmative).

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I'm sure you had to go

to court, unless what it's like when it's down south in

Louisiana, where you went to court the same day. They

gave you three years summary probation.

MR. THOMAS: Yeah. That was 2018. I'm off.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: You will be --

MR. THOMAS: Yeah.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: -- in a couple weeks.

Okay. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Board Member, and I'll

try it again, Gronauer?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: That's very good.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Very good.

That's what was confusing to me, also, is the

dates. Okay. 12-30, you went to court somewhere, a

month, two months later, something like that. And then

they found you -- they convicted you. At that time, the

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misdemeanor.

MR. THOMAS: Correct.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. I don't

know what a misdemeanor carrying a loaded firearm is.

MR. THOMAS: If I knew, I -- I didn't even have

it on me. I didn't even --

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I understand. No, I

understand your story. Right? And I understand what

happened. But it concerns me when the probation dates

are not up yet.

MR. THOMAS: Right.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. And do we have

anything that tell us about the probation date,

Mr. Saladino?

Mr. Chair, we're just looking up the probation

stuff now.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Gotcha.

MR. SALADINO: Yeah, Mr. Chair, Investigator

Saladino. Unfortunately, the State of California, they

do not put an end date to the probation on here. It

does show that it did -- 12-30 of '15 was the date of

the arrest. But we don't have an end date for the

probation.

MR. THOMAS: Yeah, because I didn't have to

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probation.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do we have a court date

on it?

MR. SALADINO: The only date we have is 12-30

of '15.


You know, I'm going to -- I appreciate all the

cooperation, because this investigator said you were

cooperative.

MR. THOMAS: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: It's just that one of

the things that bother me, you never had a P&P officer

or any --







BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. I have a

question. Have you received anything from the court?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: That told you that

you're off probation?

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BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yeah. This is Ray Flynn.

I've got a question for staff or counsel.

MS. BORDELOVE: M-hm (affirmative).

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: If we deny him, he can't

come back before us for a year, correct?

MS. BORDELOVE: That's correct.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: But if he agrees to

postpone to the next meeting, and then we know for a

fact that he's definitely off probation, if he agreed to

that, we could do that, correct?

MS. BORDELOVE: Correct.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So, Mr. Thomas, what

Board Member Flynn was just saying is this. If this

Board takes action, and that action is that they affirm

the denial, in other words, they say your work card is

denied, then it's a year before you can apply for a work

card again.

But if you think that, you decide that you are

willing to wait till our March Board meeting for this

appeal to be heard again, and there's confirmation that

the probation has been fulfilled, we can get some

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decision than the denial.

Do you understand what I'm -- kind of what I'm

saying?

MR. THOMAS: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Mr. Chair, can we make

one -- here in one second, they'll have that.

MR. SALADINO: Mr. Chair, just give me one

second real quick.

MS. IRIZARRY: Two.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Two seconds.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Two seconds.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Two seconds. We

have two seconds.

MS. IRIZARRY: Christopher, do you have a

middle name or middle initial?

MR. THOMAS: Louis.

MS. IRIZARRY: Louis?

MR. THOMAS: Uh-huh (affirmative).

MS. IRIZARRY: L-E-W?

MR. THOMAS: No, it's L-O-U-I-S.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: We're trying to find

something. Mr. Chair, if I may address that.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Absolutely.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: We're trying to find

something that will work for you.



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MR. THOMAS: Okay.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I've been here three

years. We've never granted an appeal of anybody on

probation. We've never granted anything to anybody on

probation. And you're really close to getting off. So

that's why we're trying to find something, that you go

to the next meeting, you'll be off probation. If you

haven't been in trouble, it'll work out for you for the

better. I can't speak for my colleagues. But I'm

not -- I can't in good conscience give somebody without

this information.

MR. SALADINO: Mr. Chair, we had the wrong

county. L.A. County in California doesn't allow for

searches. But Pomona, we were able to pull up 11-24 of

'17 was the end date for the probation.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Oh, that's even better.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: 11-24 of '17. Okay.

So that, Mr. Thomas, tells us that you're off probation.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. So are there any

other Board questions?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I'm satisfied.


none, do I have a motion?

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make the motion that we grant the application's appeal,

based on the fact that he's off probation, he hasn't

been in any other trouble, he's got a job, and his

honesty in the application process and before the Board.



Board Member Flynn, a second by Board Member Colbert.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. That's even

better.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: The motion is to

approve the appeal. All those in favor, signify by

saying "aye."



It passes unanimously. Mr. Thomas, you will

get your work card.

MR. THOMAS: Thank you.


BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Congratulations.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: And to staff, thank you

for the team effort.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Latrice Wilson.

MR. INGRAM: She's down here.

MS. WILSON: Yes. Hi.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Hi.



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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Hi.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Good morning, or

afternoon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Investigator Donald.

MS. DONALD: Ms. Wilson was convicted for a

felony burglary out of California in 2008. She was

sentenced to jail time, 365 days, minus 54 days for

credit for time served. She received 36 months formal

probation, fines and restitution. The applicant did

disclose the arrest.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Ms. Wilson,

would you explain the circumstances of the arrest.

MS. WILSON: Yes. I was at home, and my

friends came over and asked me could I do something for

them. So we all went outside, and they asked me could I

watch across the street, like sit in the house, but

watch them across the street as they enter a home, and

lie still.

And they got caught two weeks later. I got

caught three months later, because they told them that I

was part of, you know, watching the house. And if so,

if I was to fight it, I was going to get six, six years.

And they said if I just plead guilty, I'd just get a

year. So I just took the deal, because I was 18, and I

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Questions from

the Board?

MS. WILSON: And I was an accessory to the

crime, so.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I'm sorry. You were

what?

MS. WILSON: An accessory to the crime.


Colbert, any questions?



BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I don't know where

these questions come from. But, okay. Yes.

It says fines and restitution. Do we have

anything that says that this has all been cleared up,

the fines and restitution?

MS. DONALD: It was from 2008.


MS. DONALD: She hasn't had anything since.

Her probation is finished. She had it for 36 months.

So.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: So, apparently, it's

all taken care of?

MS. DONALD: Yeah. Yes, she's done. It's

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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do you work now?

MS. WILSON: I was working, but I was doing

security, and they -- when I got the papers and stuff, I

stopped. ATD.


Well, when's the last time you worked?

MS. WILSON: That was the last time.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: When?

MS. WILSON: Oh. October.


MS. WILSON: When I applied, I started working

three days later.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. Thank you.

MS. WILSON: M-hm (affirmative).


BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Yes. How long have you

been in Nevada?

MS. WILSON: Since 2010.



BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Prior to your security

job, what type of employment did you have?

MS. WILSON: I worked at a fast food place.


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question. What was stolen?

MS. WILSON: They stole like turtles, juices,

drinks. Like they didn't steal any electrics. They

just stole dumb stuff. Because we were 17 and 18. And

it was little stuff. It wasn't TVs or something like

that.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Were you the only

18-year-old?

MS. WILSON: No. It was two of us. I was one

of them.


MS. WILSON: And we was the only ones that got

charged with the crime. The other two was minors, so it

was dismissed for them.


Any other Board questions?

All right. With that said, and looking like

there's no other questions, I'll accept a motion.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair --

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, I'll make a

motion to grant the appeal of Latish Wilson.

MS. WILSON: Latrice.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Pardon?

MS. WILSON: Latrice.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Latrice. I'm sorry.



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For Latrice Wilson. And that's it.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Time and distance.


Board Member Gronauer. Do we have a second?




second by Board Member Nixon. Discussion on the motion?


"aye."



It looks like it passes unanimously.

Ms. Wilson, you will be getting your work card.

MS. WILSON: Oh, thank you so much. Thank you

all.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Congratulations.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Number 51, Brian Allen.

Bryant Allen.

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Allen?

Not present.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Number 52. No. No,

that's right, 52 is resolved.

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MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chair, for the record, I

believe, she needs to be sworn.


MS. HESTER: Good afternoon.



Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and

nothing but the truth?

MS. HESTER: I do.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Investigator Saladino.

MR. SALADINO: Oh, actually, I believe, this is

going to be Investigator Mahan in the north.

MR. MAHAN: Investigator Mahan in the north.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Oh, okay.

MR. MAHAN: So Mrs. Hester's criminal history

commenced on or about 1994, and her most recent arrest

was in 2017. Ms. Hester excluded and did not disclose

any of these arrests.

MS. HESTER: He said I did not disclose?

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Ms. Hester,

could you explain to us the arrests and particularly why

you did not disclose.

MS. HESTER: I thought I did disclose. Do you

guys have my paperwork?

MR. SALADINO: We'll have it in a second.



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MS. HESTER: Oh, okay. To my knowledge, I did

disclose. I even put that it was expunged, but the

gentlemen told me that it was still coming up as a

felony.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Well, at least

explain to us what this series of arrests are.

MS. HESTER: Well, in '94, in '94, does it tell

you where? '94, I think, I had Santa Barbara and L.A.

County. No, I think, '94 is Santa Barbara. Is that

correct?

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: You're telling the

story.

MS. HESTER: It's been awhile, so I'm not

exactly sure what you're looking at.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Just tell us the

circumstances of that. All we show is California. So

it's kind of tough for us to -- you take us through the

roadmap.

MS. HESTER: Well, back then, I think, that was

Santa Barbara County. It was a -- it should have been a

burglary from a mall. We had a young lady, friends of

mine knew a young lady who'd shoplift or boost, and he

paid her cash for the clothes. And then the young lady

got caught. And she told them that she was stealing the

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in.

I received -- I think, I did a couple of days

and received a couple of years probation. I eventually

got it expunged. So I'm thinking that's what you guys

are looking at from '94.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Okay. That

explains '94. What about '97 and then 2000?

MS. HESTER: '97, gosh, I'm trying to

remember. '97.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: It said something about

conspiracy to commit a crime, possession of cocaine.

MS. HESTER: Oh, that was L.A, L.A. County,

correct? I had a possession of sales charge from

Los Angeles. I was dealing with a gentleman. We were

downtown Los Angeles. I had on his jacket at the time.

And when the police came, I remembered that he had some

stuff in his jacket pocket. And I got caught with that

stuff. I tried to throw it, but the officer found it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. What

about -- we have the petty theft in 2001. We have

transporting and selling narcotics, controlled substance

in 2003.

MS. HESTER: Actually, that was a little while

back, so the dates are kind of jumbly. But the petty

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not sure what '94 was.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Any questions

from the Board? Board Member Flynn?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yeah, I've got a couple.

Let's talk about your most recent one, so you

don't have to try to remember back years ago. Driving

on a suspended license, DUI, last year.

MS. HESTER: Last year? My DUI should have

been 2010.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Right. But it says you

were driving on a suspended license.

MS. HESTER: Oh, that, yes, that was unpaid

fines, actually, going back and forth to work still.

I've always lived one place and commuted to another

place. So I was driving without my license due to

unpaid tickets. But I do currently -- I've taken care

of all that stuff and had my license back for over a

year.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: How long have you been

living in Nevada?

MS. HESTER: A few months.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. Are you employed

currently?

MS. HESTER: Yes. I work for Amazon. And

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healthcare for elderly people for the last few years

before moving here.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. So you -- I want to

understand. You said that you did disclose all these?

MS. HESTER: To my knowledge, yes. I wrote a

few things on my paperwork. I told them about it. They

said that they had would come up. When they denied the

card, and I asked the gentleman about it, he said that

my -- I said this should have been expunged. But he

said they were still coming up as a felony and that I

could seal it.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right. Mr. Chair,

could I address the investigator?

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Actually, I was going

to ask the investigator to come up to the microphone,

because he has an explanation on the disclosure.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yeah, and I also wanted to

ask him. There's -- on the paperwork here, it also says

that she made a false statement as a matter of fact,

besides the failure to disclose. So I'd like him to

cover both of those issues.

MR. MAHAN: Well, for clarity, she did disclose

four arrests. However, they did not coincide with

actual arrests. She listed, in 2010, a drunk driving

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she wasn't sure. She wrote a traffic violation and

cited she was not arrested.

And then there was no action taken on a fraud

in 2005. The fraud was for welfare scams, and she was

ultimately convicted for that. She was arrested in 2000

on the other charges not listed. And in 2017, she did

not list that, either.

So it was a mishmash of dates that she tried to

put together that did not coincide with her actual

criminal history.

MS. HESTER: I didn't have it in front of me,

and I told the gentleman I wasn't definite on the dates,

so he told me to just do the best that I could.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. And then what about

the false statement of material fact?

MR. MAHAN: That was involved. She gave, she

had two accounts of that, with providing false

information to law enforcement officers at the time of

arrest.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Oh, okay. That's not a

false statement type. It says here false statement of

material fact on the application. It's checked. Maybe

you didn't check it. But it's coming up on mine that it

was checked.

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BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: And in the past, that

normally has been reserved for a fraudulent name,

fraudulent address, fraudulent Social Security number.

MR. MAHAN: I think, I may have marked that not

knowing the material that she falsely presented.


MS. HESTER: And, yeah, I do recall that. When

I got pulled over, I was nervous, I was trying to give

the officer everything.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Do you guys have

something?

MR. SALADINO: No, that was --

MS. IRIZARRY: He has it.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right. I'm done.

Thank you.


Board Member Nixon?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: And these are, I think,

somewhat recent or within the last couple of years. Why

is there confusion on the dates?

MS. HESTER: Well, the most -- really,

actually, the 2017, I don't have a DUI from 2017. I

have one DUI, and that was from 2010, and everything was

completed with that. They wouldn't have given -- I

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BOARD MEMBER NIXON: The driving on a suspended

license.

MS. HESTER: That, definitely I was pulled

over, actually while I was on my way to work. That's

how I initiated getting my license fixed and all that

stuff, because the officer did take me in and cited me

and released me with court dates. And I just made dates

for all of my stuff, to take care of everything and to

receive my license back. So those are my -- that was

the traffic information, but I wasn't sure on the dates.

I didn't have it in front of me.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: How much jail time did you

do altogether, with all these?

MS. HESTER: I haven't even, never done a year.

I haven't even ever done six months. It was always

spaced out a couple days here and there. I have proof

of two expungements that should exist; but, I guess,

they're not showing up.




Ms. Hester, do you have a driver's license now?

MS. HESTER: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: How long have you lived in

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MS. HESTER: I'm been in Nevada since July.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Since July?

MS. HESTER: M-hm (affirmative).

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: What state is your

license issued?

MS. HESTER: (Looking.) I received my license

back -- what is it? 8-29 of 2017.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Is that a Nevada

license?

MS. HESTER: Oh, no. I haven't switched my

license over since I got here.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That would be since

July?

MS. HESTER: Yes.


MS. HESTER: M-hm (affirmative).



When was the DUI that you had your license

suspended for, when did that occur?

MS. HESTER: 2010.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: 2010?

MS. HESTER: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: And so you were driving

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MS. HESTER: Off and on. I didn't drive the

entire time. But off and on, here and there, I was

guilty of driving without my license, yes, sir. And

before, it wasn't -- before that, I had tickets for

driving without my license, but it wasn't from like

drinking or nothing like that. It was just unpaid

tickets that I couldn't afford to pay at the time, that

had actually suspended my license in the first place.





BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Board Member Gronauer.

My motion would be for denial, Meisha Hester.


to uphold the denial by Board Member Gronauer. Do we

have a second?



Board Member Colbert. Discussion on the motion?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Yeah, it's Ray Flynn.

So that you understand, it's not necessarily --

I mean you've got a past, there's no doubt about it.

But your most recent arrest is 2017.

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given me my license if I had a DUI from 2017. I don't

have a DUI from 2017.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. What I hear, that

you were arrested in 2017.

MS. HESTER: For driving without my license,

right.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Driving on a suspended

license.

MS. HESTER: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Let me finish. That is

why I'm supporting this motion. You've been here most

of the morning. We look at time and distance and what

people have done. It's barely been a little over a

year. And that's besides the fact of your failure to

disclose some of these. It doesn't mean you can't come

back in a year.

And another thing that you need to be aware of

is you are violation of the law right now. The State of

Nevada requires you to get a Nevada driver's license

within 45 days of residency.

MS. HESTER: Well, I wasn't a permanent

resident.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. We're not -- just

you're living here. You're getting a paycheck.

You're -- correct?



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MS. HESTER: Just recently, though. But, yes.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. I'm done,

Mr. Chair.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Yes. All right. We

have a motion and a second. Is there any further

discussion?

Just from my perspective, I'm going to support

the motion to recency and the confusion on

nondisclosure. I think, disclosure is very important,

particularly not necessarily of just arrests, but also

convictions. And so I think that is impacting my

decision. So I will support the motion.


"aye."



The motion passes unanimously. Ma'am, you can

come back in a year and apply again.

MS. HESTER: Okay. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Number 54, Dallas Roe.

Okay. Investigator, do you want to tell us

what we have?

MR. MAHAN: Mr. Roe has a substantial criminal

history he failed to disclose. The charges he failed to

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accounts, harassing and intimidating phone calls of a

sexual nature, and attempted arson and criminal

mischief.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And how far back do

these go?

MR. MAHAN: Quite a ways back. 1982, I

believe, was his first harassment by communication

charge.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And then the most

recent?

MR. MAHAN: His most recent was two thousand --

looks like 1995.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: 1995.

MR. MAHAN: I think, there were some other ones

after that, but. 2006, fleeing to elude a police

officer, that was his most recent.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Mr. Roe, would

you please explain what all of this is about.

MR. ROE: Well, I know, when I was living in

Pittsburgh, of course, I get -- I get nervous, you know,

when I see police officers around. And that's all. I

just don't know what to say, you know.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Why, why didn't

you disclose any of these arrests?

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Why did you not

disclose, and why did you not put these on your

application at the time you filled out your application?

Why didn't you tell about the arrests?

MR. ROE: I thought, because it was -- when

they said on the application that have you ever been

arrested after a certain amount of time, I said no.


MS. SWANSON: Can I say something first?

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Yes. Would you

identify yourself, please.

MS. SWANSON: Yes. My name is Susan Swanson.

I am his cousin. He's lived here in Nevada for eight

months. He's been working for me at Broadway West. He

has been a model citizen. He has a letter here from his

brother, who is a major in the Air Force. He's from a

military family. He's very disciplined. He didn't

remember it. Age 16, has had open-heart surgery. For

lack of blood going to his brain, he didn't understand

some of the things that were being brought up.


Thank you.

MS. SWANSON: So he did not remember.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Thank you for

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Questions from the Board. Board Member Flynn?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: For the investigator, you

made mention his last arrest was 2006?

MR. MAHAN: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I don't have that. I

don't have that on the paperwork here. What do you know

about it, what can you tell me?

MR. MAHAN: Well, that was my failure to put

that on the denial report. But it was 2006 out of LVSCA

"can-pita," fleeing to elude a police officer. And the

outcome was unknown at that time, but he was arrested.

MR. ROE: I don't know what LVSC means.

MR. MAHAN: Pittsburg, like it was out of

Pittsburg.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: It was out of

Pittsburg.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Oh, it was out of

Pittsburg.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That's part of their

border patrol.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. These, you've had

some serious charges in your life. And I know you know

that. I don't mean to put you on the spot. But if

you've been sitting here most of the morning, then you

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And the fact that you didn't disclose, especially the

things here involving young children.

So why don't you try again and explain to me

why you didn't disclose.

MR. ROE: What's that, sir?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Why didn't you put on your

paperwork that you'd had these arrests?

MR. ROE: Because I thought that they were --

because they were so far back. I thought it really

didn't matter and, you know.

MS. SWANSON: Did you remember?

MR. ROE: No.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right. I have nothing

further.


BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I have nothing.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yes, sir. Can I ask

the investigator a question, please?

It says on here, again, this has made a false

statement of material fact on the application. Well,

where, how did that come about?

MR. MAHAN: On his denial report?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yes.

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failed to the disclose. I don't have any particular

evidence behind that.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I didn't know if

it was something on the application other than the

failure. So thank you.

MR. MAHAN: Yes, sir.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Anything else?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Not from me, sir.

Thank you.


BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yes, I have some.


BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Roe, do you recall

the 2006 arrest?

MR. ROE: No, sir, I don't.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: All right. Thank you.




BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I move that we uphold

Dallas Roe's denial.



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Mr. Roe, your denial of your work card has been

upheld. You may come back and reapply in one year.

MR. ROE: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Good luck to you. Thank

you.

MS. SWANSON: Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I'm going to -- how

about we take a bio break for about 10 minutes, and then

come back and start with number 55.

* * * * *

(A break was taken, 1:29 to 1:41 p.m.)

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Let's move

along to number 55, Robert Scott.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Mr. Scott.

MR. SCOTT: Here.


MR. SCOTT: Good afternoon, too.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Investigator.

MR. MAHAN: Mr. Scott has been arrested for

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was October 4, 2016, which resulted in arrest warrants

being issued. He was also arrested for felony drug

possession, which was later reduced in severity.

He currently -- well, scratch that. He doesn't

have any active warrants at this time. But he did not

disclose any of these on his PILB application.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Mr. Scott, could you

explain the arrests and why you did not disclose.

MR. SCOTT: The first arrest was a crime of

opportunity. Somebody asked if I could make some money

doing that.

The assault and battery charge, there was a

gentleman, tried to take my dog. We had altercation

about it. He ended up calling the police, and I didn't,

because he didn't get my dog. And the police said

because he called and I didn't, in the court proceeding,

they told me it was just easier to plead out. It was a

misdemeanor. It wasn't a felony.

And the reason I didn't write either one of

those on the paper was this is my second attempt at

coming to the group. I put it down on the first

application. And that's where they told me to reapply.

Once it was finalized, the finalization for the battery

was a week after the initial review board. And they

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because the case was still open.

Now that it's closed, I reapplied. I didn't

think -- they asked me if I had been arrested on

anything new. I didn't put down anything, because the

previous application, it was already on it. And I did

submit that I did have a traffic ticket. But, no,

nothing new, nothing current as far as being arrested.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So if I'm to understand

correctly, you're saying that the reason you didn't put

them down on this is because you had already disclosed

them previously?

MR. SCOTT: I put them down on the first

application. Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Board questions.



So you had listed the September 2018 warrant

out of Vegas there, on your other one?

MR. SCOTT: No, I didn't know about it. I was

informed about it and went and got it taken care of for

the review today. That warrant was for a traffic

citation from a 2007 that I was unaware of.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: So you weren't arrested

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BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: You found out about the

warrant going through this process?

MR. SCOTT: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: So you went down and took

care of it? Okay.

MR. SCOTT: And I went down and took care of

it, and they told they that I was warrant-free at that

point.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: That's a good term.

MR. SCOTT: I liked it. Yes, this was last

week.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. So during

the Board's investigation, the warrant was discovered,

and so as a result of finding out there was a warrant

out there, you went down and took care of it?

MR. SCOTT: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Yeah, I seem to

remember. Okay.

Any other questions?


So do you currently have proof of insurance for

your vehicle?

MR. SCOTT: No, I'm without a vehicle right

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with a temp service. It's not enough to afford a car.

I have no insurance, I have no car.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Board --

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Mr. Chair, I've got a

question for staff.

Just whosever's got this, remind me when we met

last with this gentleman. Oh. Remind me when we met

with this gentlemen last and what we asked.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: It was at our last

meeting.

MR. SCOTT: At the previous reversal, last

year.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: So it was three months

ago?

MS. IRIZARRY: No.

MR. SCOTT: No. Last year. It was a year ago.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: It was a year ago.

MR. SCOTT: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: And what did we ask?

MS. IRIZARRY: He's here to reapply. I'm not

sure exactly what they asked for.

MR. SCOTT: You asked me to --

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right. Well, since

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MR. SCOTT: I remember you guys said that I

would be denied because the case was still open. The

court date for the case was a week after the review

board's date, and it was still open.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I do remember that. Okay.

I'm good.

MR. SCOTT: Open.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I remember. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Yes, me, too.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I'm clear. It took me a

while to get there, but I'm clear.


Member Nixon, do you have any questions?

MR. SCOTT: Mission accomplished.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I guess, I just want to

confirm, all of this stuff was previously listed on his

first application?

MS. IRIZARRY: His first app was just reapplied

for.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Right, but the first one

was --

MS. IRIZARRY: Yes.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Board Member Gronauer,

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BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Yes, sir.

Mr. Scott, you don't have a vehicle, so you

don't have to worry about car insurance. Do you have a

driver's license?

MR. SCOTT: Not a -- Maryland one, I had a

Maryland license, but I had to turn it in for a Nevada

ID.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You had to turn it in?

MR. SCOTT: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. So you have no

license now?

MR. SCOTT: No, no driver's license, but I have

a Nevada ID.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. And why do you

want this work card?

MR. SCOTT: I've been doing security for most

of my life. Aside from that, I do professional mixed

martial arts. It goes hand-in-hand with my profession,

or my hopeful profession of being in property

management. I'm in school for it now. And so I'm not

cut out for telemarketing, anything of that sort. I've

been forced to kind of pick up to make ends meet.

Security works for me.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Obviously -- to the

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care of, are satisfied?

MR. MAHAN: Yes, they were.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Where do you --

how long have you been in Nevada?

MR. SCOTT: 2005, 2006. I left for a period,

for about two years. I have children, took them back

east to see my family. But now we're back out here as

far as 2010. So.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. I'm fine.

Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Any other Board

questions?

All right. Then, I'd accept a motion.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Ray Flynn. I'll move to

grant the appeal. I do remember this case. He

satisfied the issue on the other warrant. He went right

down when he found out. And it was a -- the current

warrant was for display of a bogus license plate. I

think, Board Member Gronauer verified he's not driving.

We don't have to worry about that issue anymore.

And I believe, I mean he did disclose these on

the first app. And I believed his explanation that he

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to overturn the denial. Do we have a second?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. We have a second

by Board Member Nixon. Any discussion on the motion?


"aye."



It passes unanimously.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Look at that smile.

MR. SCOTT: Yeah, I'll be working, I'll go to

work for these guys.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I appreciate what you did.

And thank you for coming back.

MR. SCOTT: Thank you.


MR. SCOTT: I'm really appreciative. Thank

you.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Good luck.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Do a good job.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Number 56, Annetta

Alvarez.

MR. INGRAM: Alvarez?

Not present.

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BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Next.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. We'll trail

that one.

The next one is Jesse Booth.

MR. BOOTH: Good afternoon.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Who has this one?

MR. SALADINO: Investigator Saladino.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Investigator

Saladino.

MR. SALADINO: The applicant was denied for a

2003 felony possession of marijuana out of Texas, where

he received six years in prison. He did disclose, and

was advised of the appeal process at the time of the

application.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. All right.

Sir, could you express the arrest. And would you also

explain how many years you did in prison.

MR. BOOTH: Well, the arrest was I was caught

with the marijuana, so I did sign the deal. I did admit

that I was wrong. And I was on the I-10 on the way to

Atlanta. I'm from California. Young and dumb, thinking

that was the best way to making money. But I haven't

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I did five and a half years on the six-year

prison sentence. And I did five more, I did a half,

like six months on parole. Which I'd never been in

Texas before, but they made me stay there to finish my

parole. So, you know. They let me go. I was living in

motels and everything, just to keep my parole. But I

did complete my parole and everything.


MR. BOOTH: It was just a young and dumb

mistake. So that's what it was. I was a very young,

stupid dude, made a lot of young mistakes. But I

haven't been in trouble since then.


Board questions? Board Member Gronauer?


How long have you been a resident of Nevada?

MR. BOOTH: Sir, I've been a resident this time

right here, about nine months, eight months, sir, eight

or nine months, close to that.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Are you working now?

MR. BOOTH: Yes, sir, two jobs. I work for the

Aztec Casino. And right now, I'm doing the warehouse

work right now for Culvert.


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Board Member Nixon?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Nothing?

Board Member Flynn?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I'm just curious on this

one. How much pot was it?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I was just curious.

MR. BOOTH: Yeah, well, see, the thing about it

was, when I got out, it was legal, so I was mad, too.

But being that I had something, you know, my prior

record was so bad, I went ahead and signed it and took

it. But it was 55 pounds of weed that would get me

$6,000.


MR. BOOTH: Cash money.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right. I appreciate

your honesty. Thanks.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Yeah.



BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. No

additional questions from the Board. I'll accept a

motion.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair, I move --



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BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Ray Flynn. I make a

motion that we grant Mr. Booth his work, his appeal. We

definitely have time and distance. He hasn't been in

trouble since. He's been forthcoming before the Board.



Board Member Flynn and a second by Board Member Colbert.

Is that right?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Well, who seconded?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Me, Tammy Nixon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Second by Board

Member Nixon. Discussion on the motion?





The motion passes unanimously. Good luck,

Mr. Booth.

MR. BOOTH: Thank you very much for making it a

lot easier for me. Thank you.


Oh, someone's happy back there.

MRS. BOOTH: Hi.

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keep the spouses happy.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: It's the best thing

that happened to you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Moving on, number 58,

Lawrence, Lawrence -- I believe, it's Divetro

("Div-eh-troh")?

MR. DIVETRO: "Da-VEE-troh." Good afternoon.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Good afternoon.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Is it, do you pronounce

it "Div-eh-troh"?

MR. DIVETRO: "Da-VEE-troh."

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: "Da-VEE-troh." Thank

you.

MR. DIVETRO: Yes. Yes, sir.


your name's on this one, too.

MR. SALADINO: Yes, sir. Mr. Divetro was asked

to come back after the September Board meeting, with the

Henderson police report from the incident from his

conviction of burglary and impersonating a peace

officer.

According to the Henderson Police Department,

the applicant entered Sunset Spa, the Sunset Spa with

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peace officer. The intention was shown. There were a

series of similar events at other locations. The

applicant did, in fact, show a badge, identify himself

as a police officer, placed down the police scanner, and

gave every indication that he was a police officer.

Due to the fact that the applicant did tell the

victim that they were under arrest and unlawfully

detained -- unlawfully detained her against her will,

the applicant was also charged with second degree

kidnapping.

The applicant was convicted of burglary and

impersonating a peace officer.

That was at the request of the Board that we

gather the police report from Henderson. There was

three other events that had tooken place in Henderson,

that once the Sunset Spa came forward, Henderson, you

know, kind of gathered that that was the MO, and those

other events have been closed out.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Mr. Divetro,

would you refresh our memory on your account of the

events.

MR. DIVETRO: I had no, I had no connection

with those other. There was three different incidents

that happened. There was a couple of other gentlemen

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weapon. But I wasn't in connection with that.

But I do, I have nothing to deny. I was, I was

guilty of -- I entered the spa not with the intent to

commit a crime. But I was propositioned. And I got --

I was under a lot of distress, under a lot of

medication.

And there's no excuse for what I did. It

doesn't matter how it happened. I fixed it, went to a

detox program. Two days in the detox program, I had a

grand mal seizure, split my head open. I completed a

program.

Since then, I haven't been in any trouble. Way

out of character. It was an unfortunate incident. And

I don't expect anybody to understand about what

happened. But there is the medical report saying what

happened to me, as far as the medication. So I'm not

making any excuses. I'm just stating the facts. And I

have nothing to deny. Just I apologize for what

happened. Never, it was way out of character.


Board questions? Board Member Colbert?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: No questions?

Board Member Gronauer ("Grawn-our"), Gronauer

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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Bobbie G.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: You know --

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Bobby G works.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: You know, the good news

is, is that I'm far enough away you can't reach up and

slap me, so.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Well, as you said

earlier, we could agree to disagree.

All right. No, I'm good.


Nixon?

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I'm good. No questions.



Mr. Divetro, if you remember, I was the one

that requested --

MR. DIVETRO: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: -- that information.

MR. DIVETRO: Yes.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Because I had issues with

yours explanation last time.

MR. DIVETRO: Okay.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: And what, the police

report is significantly different than how you

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MR. DIVETRO: I remember you asked me if I

showed a badge. Yes, I did show a badge. But as far as

the handcuffs were concerned --

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: We're not in --

MR. DIVETRO: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. What I'm just

saying is that the police version of the report, as well

as what you ended up pleading guilty to, is

significantly different than what you told us here. And

I asked for that report. I would give you the benefit

of the doubt. So. And we also have a -- you know, a

recency.

So I appreciate your coming back. And I

appreciate you trying. So we'll see what happens this

morning. Or this afternoon. It's been a long day.

I'm done.


additional questions from the Board?


MR. DIVETRO: Could I say something else?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Mr. Chair, the applicant

is asking if he may say something.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Of course.

MR. DIVETRO: Like I said, I've been trying to

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Like I said, this is the fourth time I've actually been

back here, because I -- you told me to come back in a

year. I didn't come back in a year. So I came back.

Then they told me to come -- there was too much in

recency. So I came back again. And now, and they told

me to come back again, and now I'm back again.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. I just have a

question. When did you complete your probation?

MR. DIVETRO: It's kind of a blur, I mean.

MR. INGRAM: Investigator Saladino is checking

that for you, sir.

MR. SALADINO: The order of -- the petition, or

the probationary was discharged on 8-26 of '16.


All right. Back to the Board. I will accept a

motion.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: This is Gronauer. I'll

make a motion for denial on Lawrence Divetro's

application.


motion to uphold the denial. Do I have a second?



Board Member Flynn. Discussion on the motion? I'm

going to --



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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: If you don't mind,

Mr. Chairman, I just -- the police report is what put a

lot of weight on and then created me a little more

problem than what we had earlier. So that's why my

motion is as it is.

That's all. Thank you.


Mr. Gronauer.

I'm going to support the motion. I think, I

still think the recency. I think, the explanation. I

think, the -- a variety of things. So that.

So, with that said, all in favor of the motion,




Mr. Divetro, the denial has been upheld.

Again, you have the opportunity to come back in a year.

I know that's not a good explanation for you, but I'm

just saying that that's it.

On to item number or agenda item number 59,

Mary Tolliver Foster.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: She's not there. We'll

trail that.

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MS. GARRETT: Good afternoon.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Good afternoon to you.


is this you, also?

MR. SALADINO: Yes, sir.



1996 theft charge that started off as a felony burglary,

reduced to theft. There was a 1997 burglary. Another

theft in '97. A felony robbery in '04, where they

received, where the applicant received 87 days in jail

and three years of probation, along with a fine.

The applicant had been previously denied and is

coming back again to -- you know, a year later. We do

have 1203.4 paperwork now for the dismissal of the

felony robbery. And that was all provided on this

go-round with the application.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: What I see in front of

me reflects that she did not disclose any of these in

this application?

MS. GARRETT: No.

BOARD MEMBER NIXON: That's not for --

MR. SALADINO: On the notes there, it says she

did not list any of the convictions, but did provide

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that was my fault there for not putting that in there

that they were disclosed on the second go-round.

MS. GARRETT: Okay.


MR. SALADINO: And she did provide the 1203.4

documents for the felony that was 1203.4 dismissed out

of California.


Thank you, Investigator.

Board questions? Board Member Colbert?





BOARD MEMBER NIXON: So I just want to clarify

that this time around, she did, she did disclose?

MR. SALADINO: Yes.



BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: No, we asked her to come

back. We asked her to disclose. She was able to get

the robbery dismissed. She did what we asked. And she

waited a year.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: With no additional

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BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Ray Flynn. My motion is

to grant her appeal.




Board Member Flynn to grant the appeal and a second by

Board Member Colbert. Colbert. Maybe I can beat you

this time.

So, discussion on the motion?

My comments is that I concur with Board Member

Flynn's observations.

With no further discussion, all in favor,




It passes unanimously. Ms. Garrett, you will

get your work card. Congratulations.

MS. GARRETT: Thank you. You guys have a good

day.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Have a good holiday.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So we'll go to

number 61, Nunzio -- I think, it's Guadagni.

MR. GUADAGNI: Good afternoon, ladies and



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gentlemen of the Board.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: How do you pronounce your

last name?

MR. GUADAGNI: Excuse me, sir?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: How do you pronounce your

last name?

MR. GUADIAGNI: "Wa-dah-nee." The second G is

silent.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: I'm just going call you

Nunzio.

MR. GUADAGNI: Sure. Nunzio means messenger.

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chairman, if I may, Nunzio had

approached me in the hallway to let me know that if

everybody could speak up a little bit during his inquiry

here, he would appreciate it. He is a little hard of

hearing.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Good. We'll do

that.

Investigator Saladino, is this yours, also?

MR. SALADINO: Yes, sir. The applicant was

denied for a 1997 conspiracy to possess a controlled

substance, meth, which was a felony. Also, a

falsification of a firearm form, which is -- it was also

in 1987.

The applicant listed both felony convictions.



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The firearms, falsification of the firearm form ran

concurrent with the possession charge. The applicant

was released from parole on 5-10 of '92. And he did

disclose it. And those were the only arrests on his

history.

I also received a letter from one our

licensees, George B. Barros, license number 2358, that,

you know, speaks to his character, on how he's known him

for years. He did have the, you know, mishap early on,

in ninety -- in '87. And there's been no other

situation or arrest with law enforcement moving forward.

He also, Mr. Barros also stated, if he was approved for

his registered work card, he would have a job for him,

with no concerns whatsoever.


Investigator.

Mr. Guadagni, could you please explain the

circumstances of the arrest?

MR. GUADAGNI: Excuse me?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: What happened with the

arrest?

MR. GUADAGNI: What happened with the arrest?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: The crime that your

committed.

MR. GUADAGNI: I was stupid, young. I wanted



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to be somebody. I got with a bodyguard to an Italian

mob guy in San Diego. And then I was his bodyguard.

And I got caught. There was a big investigation on him.

I didn't even know. If I did, I wouldn't have joined

them.



MR. GUADAGNI: And I made a mistake. But I

did -- may I say something, please?

I did help the judge, who he used to be the

prosecutor, settle the case that he had. He asked me

for help, and I had it, I helped him when I was out.

When I was done with parole, I was running a

single-resident occupancy hotel. And one of my tenants

was -- he wanted her to come in with him. She was

scared. She didn't want to go anywhere. Because the

guy was a gang member. So I told him I would bring her

to court. And I did it, I brought her to court, safely,

and brought her home. She testified and everything.

And he told me, "Whenever you need anything,

let me now. I owe you. You did help, a great job."

And he told me, "Why, why did you do that? You know

you're an ex-con." I said, "You know what, I want to

turn my life over."

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girls.


Board Member Flynn?

MR. GUADAGNI: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Nunzio, how long have you

lived in Nevada?

MR. GUADAGNI: Excuse me?

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: How long have you lived in

Nevada?

MR. GUADAGNI: Nevada, since August.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. And what type of

employment have you had over the last, say, 10 years?

MR. GUADAGNI: I haven't had. I've been

staying off welfare.


MR. GUADAGNI: And my brother, I live with my

brother and my mom and dad.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right.

MR. GUADAGNI: I'm trying to prove myself.

Like San Diego, I was doing security there. I had a

guard card there, in San Diego. And other things out

here, it's much better, more money. And me and the

mother of my children were not getting along. So I had

placed them. I needed to move, couldn't pay rent there.

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MR. GUADAGNI: And my mom and dad's getting

old.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Nothing else.


Nixon?



BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No questions, sir.


BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: No questions.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Seeing no additional

questions, I'd accept a motion.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Mr. Chair, I move we

grant the appeal, based upon time and distance, no

further issues.


grant the appeal by Board Member Colbert. Do we have a

second?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I have a second by



"aye."



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MR. GUADAGNI: Oh, my God, thank you.



It passes unanimously.

MR. GUADAGNI: Thank you very much.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Mr. Guadagni, you have

your work card.

MR. GUADAGNI: Thank you. Oh, God, Jesus,

thank you.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Good luck to you. Merry

Christmas.


MR. GUADAGNI: Thank you. Have a wonderful

day.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Number 62, Sidney

Harvey.

MR. INGRAM: Harvey is not present.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. We'll trail

Harvey.

Number 64, Christopher Kearney.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: He's here.

MR. KEARNEY: Thank you. Thank you for the

opportunity. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Board.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Who did you bring with

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MR. KEARNEY: That's my wife of 26 years.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right. How are you

today?

MS. KEARNEY: Fine.


I have your name on this one, too.

MR. SALADINO: Yes, sir. According to his

SCOPE, our local SCOPE, for the background, the

applicant is a seven-time convicted felon. He has been

arrested 17 times in Nevada, along with 10 citations for

possession, trespassing and failing to register with the

county as a felon.

Now that we have the fingerprint report, most

of the convictions -- the one in '92, out of Florida,

received a year and a half. The grand theft, another

year and a half. They weren't really high prison

sentences. But they were felonies nonetheless.

His last arrest was in 1996, here in Las Vegas,

for possession of drug paraphernalia, which it looks

like the courts threw out, as it was denied.

Other than that, he's been -- you know, no

run-ins with law enforcement.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: The report I'm looking

at shows a 2001 arrest.

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yes.

MR. KEARNEY: '99.

MR. SALADINO: There was a '99 possession of

cocaine. 2001, larceny, out of Michigan as well.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. All right. Very

good. Thank you, Investigator.

Mr. Kearney, would you explain your arrests,

arrest history, and.

MR. KEARNEY: Mr. Chairman and Board, a long

story short, I was an extremely heavy crack-addicted

person. I was the person you saw right there on Owens

in Las Vegas. I had no sense of direction. I was just,

basically, lost in drugs.

It took prison, homelessness and God to bring

me where I am today. My last conviction was two years,

scared me to death. I got out of prison. I went to the

V.A. Which I'm honorably discharged. They put me in an

extensive program for four years, four long years. It

was the best thing that ever happened in my life. I've

never looked back since.

I've been married for 26 years. My wife and I

raised 16 children, who've never been in trouble. And

I'm proud of that. That's all I have.

I've been working in other states in security,

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is my home. My father was in the Air Force. I grew up

here. And I came back home. I'm 61 years old. And my

wife and I are afraid of -- and just I can't continue to

sleep in the car and send my money home. It's just not

a life.

So I'm asking you, Mr. Chairman and the Board,

to allow me to work as a non-armed guard at minimum

wage. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Thank you, Mr. Kearney.

Would your wife like to say anything, or?

MRS. KEARNEY: Yes. I just want to say he's

been very productive and supportive of our kids and

family, and did just recently raise like three

grandchildren. And he really has turned his life around

tremendously. And I'm very proud of him.


Board questions? Board Member Gronauer?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No, I'm fine.


BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I'm good. No questions.


BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Did you say you helped

raise 16, one six, children?

MR. KEARNEY: Yes, sir.

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All right. That's it. I'm done.


Member Colbert?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. So with no

additional questions, I would accept a motion.


we --

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Ray Flynn. I -- go for

it.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Okay. Mr. Chair, I move

that we grant the appeal, based upon time and distance

and no -- nothing of any recent nature. All this stuff

is ancient history just about.


by Board Member Colbert to overturn the appeal. Or

excuse me. To overturn the denial. Do we have a

second?



Board Member Flynn. Discussion on the motion?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: We ought to wear an

Army hat here. No, it's all good.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: If there's no further

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the motion, signify by saying "aye."



The motion carries unanimously. Mr. Kearney,

you will get your work card. And thank you for your

service.

MR. KEARNEY: Thank you. Thank you, thank you

so much.



BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Have a good day.

MR. KEARNEY: Yes, sir. Thank you.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Number 65 is up here in

the north, Mr. Perez.

Okay. Is this Investigator Saladino again?


denied for a 1994 concealed weapon violation, which was

a misdemeanor, out of California, where he received

three years of probation and 31 days in jail. The

applicant did not disclose this misdemeanor conviction.

It was found on the fingerprint report.

There was also a 1989 theft of personal

property, which was a misdemeanor, in California as

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These were not disclosed on the application.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Anything

additional?

MR. SALADINO: Nothing additional.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Thank you,

Investigator.

Mr. Perez, would you explain why you didn't

disclose. Number one, explain the arrests. And, number

two, why you did not disclose.

MR. PEREZ: I didn't disclose it because

actually I didn't even remember that being on my record,

as far as when I got in trouble with that concealed

weapon.

And as far as the concealed weapon, I had an

issue with my dad. And I forgot that the gun was in the

car. And I got pulled over, and they found it and

stuff. And I wouldn't have got a ticket if it was

showing. I only got a ticket because it was inside the

door panel, the pocket of the door panel and stuff, so

they considered it a concealed weapon, because they

couldn't see it right off the bat.

And as far as the theft, that I can remember,

it was a box of condoms that I took from a Long's drug

store. Basically, that was it on that one. And I got

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: No arrests since then?

MR. PEREZ: No.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And, obviously, you

work in security somewhere right now?

MR. PEREZ: Silver Legacy.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: At the Silver Legacy?

MR. PEREZ: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Questions from the

Board? Board Member Colbert?

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Did you do any jail

time?

MR. PEREZ: I did some jail time, yeah, I did.

It was pretty much the 30 days that he's talking about.

But, again, it was a long time ago. I just don't

remember being in jail that long.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Were you arrested on

both of them, or do you know? I mean did you do jail

time for each charge?

MR. PEREZ: For the gun charge, they did take

me into custody. But they let me go with a citation.

And as far as the other one, they did take me into

custody. So it's one day on each one of them. But when

I went to court, they gave me the 30 days.

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MR. PEREZ: Yes, they confiscated the gun. It

belonged to me. I bought it legally.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Okay. No further.


the Board. Board Member Gronauer?






BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: As you probably heard

while you're sitting here, you know, nondisclosure is

something that's kind of a big issue with the Board.

How long have you been in Nevada?

MR. PEREZ: Since '96.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Since '96?

MR. PEREZ: Yes.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And you've been working

security since then, or what?

MR. PEREZ: I started in security in 2009, and

then to the present date. And before that, I was a

press operator for a printing press.


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BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I move that we uphold the

denial due to lack of disclosure.


uphold the denial due to lack of disclosure. Do I have

a second for that?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll second.


Gronauer. Discussion on the motion?

Seeing none, we'll vote on the motion. All in

favor of the motion, signify by saying "aye."


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Those opposed? Nay.

So it passes four-one on the denial. You're

welcome to apply in another year.

MR. PEREZ: Okay.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And if you do apply, if

you choose to reapply, make sure you disclose any

arrests that you've had.

MR. PEREZ: Okay.


Corey Powns.

MR. POWNS: Good afternoon, everyone.


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Good afternoon.

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denied for a 2009 possession of a firearm, which was a

misdemeanor out of California. The applicant did

receive one year probation and was told to stay out of

trouble for four months. He did disclose this

conviction. And the one-year probation and four months

was verified on the fingerprint report.

At the time of the denial, I was awaiting the

fingerprint report. Since getting it, it does show the

one-year probation, four months stay out of trouble.

And, again, this was disclosed. That was the only

arrest on the applicant's arrest history, and that was

the 2009.


Investigator. And the denial was based on the firearm

violation?

MR. SALADINO: Correct.


All right. Mr. Powns, would you explain the

arrest and the circumstances around it.

MR. POWNS: At the time, I was 19 years old,

fresh out of high school. I graduated at 17. My son

got incarcerated -- not incarcerated. Sorry about that.

My son got taken by the Department of Social Services,

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father, and he was three years old.

It was a lot of partying. I guess, I was one

of the only ones with no record. I got stuck with it.

And just by getting out, trying to gain custody of my

son, I jumped on my first few and didn't know the

system. So there was no probation. I didn't have to

check in with anybody.

I stuck with school. A lot of sweatshops. I

moved me and my mother to Nevada a year and a half ago.

I worked at Walmart last year out here.

I'm just trying to better myself to show my

three sons now. I have two sons that were born in

Nevada, that I just had last year and this year. I'm

just trying to be a better man in life now, you know,

being married. I really got to look at things, I guess,

so. I'm just changing me. It was so long ago, I'm

surprised I still remember it, so.

Other than that, it was one young mistake. And

I grew up in Watts, so, worst area you can find in L.A.

So not my fault, but my apologies.

That's about it.

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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: With no additional


BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. I'll make a

motion for the denial to be reversed on Mr. Powns.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: We have a motion for

the denial to be, well, reversed or overturned. Do I

have a second?









It passes unanimously. Mr. Powns, you will get

your work card.

MR. POWNS: Thank you, sir.


MR. POWNS: Thank you.



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BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Number 67. I'm going

to try this, and I'll see if I'm successful. It looks

like Lui Taulua.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I went to all that work

and he's not there?

All right. Number 68, Barry Williams.

MR. WILLIAMS: Good evening.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Good evening. I'll go

with that, I'll go with that one.

MR. SALADINO: Mr. Chairman, Investigator

Saladino again.



1999 possession of a concealed weapon. It was a

misdemeanor. He did pay a fine for it. Or was supposed

to pay a fine for it. The second charge that you see

there, September 27th of the '98, that possession charge

was the same one. The first one had gone to a warrant,

and then he had to do the 60 days in jail. The

applicant did list this on his application. And that's

why we're here today.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Thank you,

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Mr. Williams, will you explain the arrest, and.

MR. WILLIAMS: At the time -- and I also want

to say, you said '99. It was '96.

MR. SALADINO: I'm sorry. '96.

MR. WILLIAMS: Right. I was young, misled, no

direction. And I don't know what to say other than I

got to take responsibility for it, you know. I'm not

that person anymore. I tried to stay out of trouble as

much as I can.

Since then, I've been a single father for seven

years. I've watched three children graduate high

school. And my son is now in Jamestown, North Dakota,

on a football scholarship, and he just got honorable

mention for the GPAC division for wide receiver this

year.

So the person you see on paper and the person

you see now are two separate people. And I've learned.

And I've moved on. And I'm trying to find some kind of

work that works with me. You know, I did construction

and demolition and stuff like that. It's too bad for my

knees now, you know. I'm old, so. So, you know. I got

to need something that's more accommodating for me.

And, I think, the security position would help me out in

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Questions from the Board? Board Member

Colbert?







BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: No, that's going to be an

easy one.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Seeing no



motion to grant the applicant his appeal.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So we have a motion to

grant the appeal by Board Member Flynn and a second by

Board Member Colbert. Discussion on the motion?




BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Opposed, "no."


Mr. Williams.

MR. WILLIAMS: Thank you.



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MR. WILLIAMS: Thank you. Appreciate it.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Good luck to your kids,

too, sir.

MR. WILLIAMS: Thank you. Appreciate it.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: You're assuming we're

going to call you. I'm done, I'm done for the day. I'm

going to ask you to continue for three months.

(Board Member Nixon left the meeting room.)

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Item number 69, Charles

Yates.

I guess --

MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chairman, the last name starts

with a Y, but.

MR. YATES: Yes, sir.

BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: We should reverse.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. I guess --

MR. SALADINO: Yes, Mr. Chair, it's

Investigator Saladino again.

The applicant was denied for a 2004 bank fraud,

which was a felony. The applicant did report it on his

application at the time he filled out his application.

At the time the denial went through, I did not have the

fingerprint reports. But now I have the fingerprint



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report. And the applicant received 36 months of

probation, had to pay a restitution of $9,750.35. And

there was a $100 assessment for the court fees and

whatnot attached to it as well. Everything has been

completed for the courts.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. Mr. Yates, could

you explain what the circumstances were.

MR. YATES: Yes, sir. Unfortunately, it's the

case made here today about being young and dumb. At the

time, my mother's household was under foreclosure. She

was on a third mortgage. And I couldn't think of any

other way to get the money, a regular job. So I was

just being young and stupid in trying to help her, yeah.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So how did you get the

money?

MR. YATES: How did I get the money? I got

police. No, I didn't get the money. My older brother,

he actually stepped in. And to this day, he still owns

the house.


the Board. Board Member Flynn?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Board member Gronauer?

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, I'm a little bit

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The answer, wait a minute, you had to pay back $9,000.

MR. YATES: Oh that. Right after that -- it's

funny, it takes you getting in trouble to actually do

the right thing. For me, the right, that I started

working at Circuit City. And I got a second job. I was

Dave Chapelle's bodyguard for Chapelle Season 2.

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Thank you. I'm good.


Colbert?


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I must have missed

something. I still -- what was the bank fraud? I

guess, that's what I'm trying to nail down.

MR. YATES: It was check fraud. It was check

fraud. So I gave someone a fake check, and they went

into a bank and they deposited it. They got to court,

well, the bank teller got to court, and she told on the

guy, and the guy told on me.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. That clears it

up for me.

BOARD MEMBER COLBERT: Yeah.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Was it a one-time

occurrence, or was there a series of checks?

MR. YATES: Of course, one time. No, one time.

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answers my questions. Any additional questions from the

Board?

Seeing none -- and you made a note that Board

Member Nixon has stepped away?

THE REPORTER: Yes, I did.


That said, I'd accept a motion.


we grant the appeal, based upon time and distance and no

further charges.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: There's been a motion

by --

BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll second it.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: -- Board Member

Colbert, with a second by Board Member Gronauer, to

approve the appeal. Any discussion on the motion?


"aye."



It passes unanimously with four votes.

MR. YATES: Thank you.

(Board Member Nixon returned to the meeting

room.)

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: So.



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BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Mr. Chair, I know we've

got a lot of trailing, but there is nobody in the

audience here. I don't know if you have any up north,

but.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: No, we have no one up

north.

MR. INGRAM: I have one other item. Item

number 34 had to leave. He did request his appeal be

delayed until the March Board meeting. And that's for

Grefford G. Dixon.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Do we need a motion to

grant that request to the next -- we don't need a

motion?

MS. BORDELOVE: No.

MR. INGRAM: No.

MS. BORDELOVE: No, because that was at his

request.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. So, Mr. Ingram,

can you go --

MR. INGRAM: Would you like me to read into the

record the ones that are trailed?

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Yeah, would you go

through the ones that you have as being trailed.

MR. INGRAM: Yes, sir. So, item number 33,

Artice O. Barlow; and, again, he's not present.



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Item number 36, Jovani S. Fulton.

Item number 39, Lisa R. Priola.

Item number 40, Charles A. Reynolds.

Item 43, Bruce A. Willis.

Item number 51, Bryant Allen.

Item number 56, Annetta Alvarez.

Item number 59, Mary Tolliver Foster.

Item number 62, Sidney Harvey.

Item number 67, Lui Taulua. You did better

than I did on that one. Taulua.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: I would accept a motion

to uphold the denial on all of those.


we deny those.


motion to deny all of those.


BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. By Board Member

Colbert, with a second by Board Member Flynn.

Discussion on the motion?



BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: And you made a note

that Board Member Nixon is back?

THE REPORTER: I did.



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Okay. At this point, we go to Other Business,

item number 70, Board comment and future agenda items.

Is there anything I should remember on this

one, Director Ingram?

MR. INGRAM: I forgot. I think, we're good.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. Then, it's,

obviously, item number 71, public comment.

Do we have any public down there?

MR. INGRAM: No public.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: All right. We have

none up here.

So do we -- just for my edification, do we need

an actual motion for adjournment, or we can just

adjourn?

MS. BORDELOVE: No.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Okay. First off --

MS. BORDELOVE: You can adjourn. You don't

have to make a motion. Robert Rules of Order require a

motion. But you have nothing requiring you to use

Robert's Rules of Order. A lot of people just do. But

it's not required.

MR. INGRAM: Non-Robert.

BOARD CHAIRMAN NADEAU: Before we adjourn, I

really want to thank staff for their preparation and



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preparing us and providing us with the paperwork, too,

so that we can have a coherent conversation here. So I

really do appreciate it.

And wish everyone a merry Christmas.

We're adjourned.

Whoa, whoa, wait (used gavel).

* * * * *

(The meeting adjourned at 2:43 p.m.)

-oOo-



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REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE

I, SHANNON L. TAYLOR, a Nevada Certified Court

Reporter, Nevada CCR #322, do hereby certify:

That I was present at the Office of the Attorney

General, 100 North Carson Street, Mock Court Room,

Carson City, Nevada, on Thursday, December 13, 2018, for

a meeting scheduled for 9:00 a.m., and commencing at

9:00 a.m. took stenotype notes of a meeting of the State

of Nevada Private Investigators Licensing Board;

That I thereafter transcribed the aforementioned

stenotype notes into typewriting as herein appears, and

that the within transcript, consisting of pages 1

through 269, is a full, true, and correct transcription

of said stenotype notes of said meeting;

I further certify that I am not an attorney or

counsel for any of the parties, not a relative or

employee of any attorney or counsel connected with the

actions, nor financially interested in the actions.

DATED: At Carson City, Nevada, this 23rd day of

January, 2019.

____________________________

SHANNON L. TAYLOR

Nevada CCR #322, RMR

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