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AUDIO TRANSCRIPTION
ZOOM0006.WAV - Pages 3-8
ZOOM0009.WAV - Pages 9-70
ZOOM0010.WAV - Pages 71-114
ZOOM0014.WAV - Pages 115-144
Transcribed by: Rhonda Olynyk
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NOTES:
The identification of the voices on thesefour audio recordings was provided to meby Daniel Cragg, Attorney, as being JeanRobinson and Ruben Lopez.
The parenthetical "unintelligible" means thatI could hear that words were being said butthat at the time of transcription I could notunderstand what was being said.
Names of individuals and companies have beenspelled phonetically.
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MS. ROBINSON: We had orientation, and then --
Tuesday was the first day, and then unfortunately my
employer has had a three-day -- tomorrow is the last
day -- three-day training starting at 8:00 o'clock in
the morning, which means I leave the house about 5:30.
So I've not been calling you because like I can't even
call on the way to work.
MR. LOPEZ: No.
MS. ROBINSON: Anyway, they got a new B-1. They
call it something else, but it's really not. They
just changed the name and some other crazy stuff. And
so they've had mandatory training for all senior staff
and management staff from 8:00 to 5:00 every day.
MR. LOPEZ: Wow, wow. I can only imagine what
this new system --
MS. ROBINSON: Oh, Miss Ballard -- Miss Ballard
has been there. She actually tried to have lunch with
me today, but I had to meet with the auditors. It
actually worked out well, because for as many times as
I've tried to meet with that woman and say, why don't
you stop the madness, she can never meet with me, you
know.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: I have to make an appointment. So
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today she says -- she walks up to me, I think we need
to have lunch. So it turns out I couldn't have lunch
with her, I had to blow her off because I had this
other meeting, and she was offended by it, because
when I walked back in the room, she said, I just don't
believe you blew me off for lunch, and I wanted to say
to her, you've blown me off for how many years?
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: But I didn't. You know, I was
very good. I just looked at her and smiled. I said,
oh, I'd never do that, sorry I had a previous
commitment. And I looked at Bob Chamberlin and said:
Look, Ms. Ballard wants me to meet with her for lunch,
and these auditors, these outside auditors want me to
meet with them. They came here especially to meet
with me. Who do you want me to meet with? He said,
the auditors. That was kind of his call, but it
was -- it came out right because I didn't want to meet
with her anyway.
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: But -- so, anyway, but she's been
sitting through this training, and so I looked at her,
and I figure she was just trying to get information,
but, anyway, so I looked at her, and I said -- she was
coming up with some of these solutions, you know. I
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said, oh, interesting, because she finally kind of
gets the allocation process but not really.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And -- and it's been just an
interesting week, but be that as it may, I'm actually
waiting on a call back. I'm cooking dinner, but I'm
waiting on a call back from Martin, whose cell phone
I've been beating up because I cannot for the life of
me -- maybe you already know. Do you know anything
about NGA in St. Louis?
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, it -- well, we -- yes, I do.
We tried to bid for it, but we couldn't because
obviously we're not top security.
MS. ROBINSON: Oh, you and I must talk, my
friend.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, my goodness.
MS. ROBINSON: We got -- we got -- okay. So
here's what -- here's -- here's the deal. I'm going
to finish cooking, and I'm going to finish getting the
little one, who just ran away from the dinner table
because she's eating her dinner, which is something
that -- hold on a second.
Teresa, where are you? Come here now. Teresa.
She's going to be in big trouble.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, no.
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MS. ROBINSON: Big trouble. But, anyway, so --
so I'm going to finish her up, and then once I get her
squared away and then I'm going to call you, because
it's much earlier on your end of the world.
MR. LOPEZ: Absolutely.
MS. ROBINSON: But -- but remind me these are the
things that we need to talk about. Bob Turner.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: Jim Barone.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: This is all related to NGA.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. Bob Turner, Jim Barone,
NGA, GSA in Illinois.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah.
MS. ROBINSON: And that whole issue with the
door.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah.
MS. ROBINSON: I call it "the door," the
abandoned door.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: M.J. Willard, NTI.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: And Peckham.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
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MS. ROBINSON: The new alleged process. Let's
see, what else? I think that's all off the top of my
head, but -- and then you got to -- you got to
enlighten me on whichever opportunity -- and then
there's one opportunity that you applied for in the
South.
MR. LOPEZ: And one?
MS. ROBINSON: In Micky's region.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Southcentral that you're not going
to get.
MR. LOPEZ: Of course.
MS. ROBINSON: That I've been holding up
because -- holding it up in the sense that he said to
me today, can you just turn it loose, you look at it
and turn it loose, because he wants to go ahead and
make the award. And it's custodial in Puerto Rico,
right?
MR. LOPEZ: That's the one, yes.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, so remind me to talk to you
about that. I think that's about it, but that ought
to hold us for an hour or so, maybe an hour and a half
or so.
MR. LOPEZ: No. Okay. I understand.
MS. ROBINSON: So I don't know what you're --
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let's see. What time is it there? So it's 5:30
there.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah.
MS. ROBINSON: So if I call you at around 10:00
my time, will that be too late?
MR. LOPEZ: No. That'll be fine. That's 7:00.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. It will be between 10:00,
10:30. Probably about 10:30.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00. Okay.
Yeah, 7:00, 7:30 is -- I mean, anytime for me is good.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. I'll call -- I'll call you
tonight.
MR. LOPEZ: We need to talk. Thank you.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. All right. Bye.
MR. LOPEZ: Bye-bye.
(End of ZOOM0006.WAV audio file.)
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MS. ROBINSON: Hello.
MR. LOPEZ: Jean, how are you?
MS. ROBINSON: I'm good. How about you?
MR. LOPEZ: I'm hanging in there. It's so hot
around here, 105.
MS. ROBINSON: Oh, wow. Wow.
MR. LOPEZ: But --
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, that's pretty bad.
MR. LOPEZ: I got home, I turned the AC on, and
the children are out there messing around in the
living room.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, you know, I kind of work in
hell every day, so I know how hot it can be.
MR. LOPEZ: So how have you been?
MS. ROBINSON: Well, let's see. I've been okay.
I've been dealing with some health issues with my mom,
which hasn't been so cool. She's been -- you know,
she's had this pinched nerve and some other stuff for
about a year, and they keep misdiagnosing or whatever.
I mean, they keep changing their -- I shouldn't say
"mis," but they keep changing the diagnosis.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And it's getting frustrating,
because first they said, okay, it's a pinched nerve,
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then they said it's the shoulder, she needs a shoulder
replacement, then they said it's a torn rotator cuff,
and then they said, no, back to the pinched nerve, and
then they got to check all this other stuff out. The
bottomline is they don't know, and so she's kind of
looking at them saying, well, maybe I should go to
Mayo Clinic or go somewhere where they really know --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: -- what's going on.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But much too much. So I've been
back and forth dealing with her and getting her to
doctors and going to neurologists and going to all
these other people, and then my daughter went out and
stayed with her for a couple weeks this summer just
to -- so she could have summer with gramma.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: So that was good. And my mom was
powering through the pain, and there was tidings of
them. People were saying, I saw your mom and your
daughter at such and such. And mom had stopped
driving for a little bit because, you know, the range
of motion on that left side was getting bad, but -- so
I guess they do what they need to do when they need to
do it.
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MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: So actually having Teresa out,
you know, for a week or two was good --
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: -- was good for her, gave her a
purpose in doing that, and that's kind of where that
was, but -- so I -- so I dealt with that. And then
much to my employer's dismay and chagrin, I might add,
I won a national top general counsel award through --
you get nominated through your peers, lawyers, law
firms, etcetera. I didn't even know they were
nominating me, but, anyway, I won that, and so I went
to Chicago --
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: -- picked that up, and I was given
it on the day of the anniversary of the March, on
Wednesday, so that was kind of cool.
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: And, you know, Bob was just -- he
could barely muster out congratulations, but --
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, my.
MS. ROBINSON: You know, the other people, just
to give you some idea, I was in pretty good company.
It was like the general counsel of Sears, Hyatt,
Redbox.
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MR. LOPEZ: Whoa.
MS. ROBINSON: It was a lot of big, big
companies, some of the medical companies and, you
know. So he was sort of surprised, but what could he
say or do?
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: So that was -- that was good for
me. There will be some press on it after -- you know,
we just got the award like last week, on the 28th. So
I was in Chicago with that, and I guess I kind of was
just getting Terese back in school, so it has been --
I've been out of town, in and out of town for the last
couple weeks, but beyond that, it's -- it's been
pretty good. I can't complain.
MS. ROBINSON: I figured as much. I'd figured
you were very -- you were busy because --
MS. ROBINSON: It's been -- it's just been crazy.
It really has been crazy. And then our people are,
you know, up to the same old craziness, and I just --
you know, sometimes I'm a late -- a late bloomer in
terms of trying to balance motherhood, work, take care
of, you know, aging parents, etcetera.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: This whole thing. I just figured
out the game, and now you and I are going to figure
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out how to fix the game.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay. I'm in for that.
MS. ROBINSON: I'm a little late, but that's
okay, you know.
MR. LOPEZ: No. I mean, it's got to happen.
MS. ROBINSON: I'm slow, but I'm sure, Ruben.
How is that? Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, it's got to happen.
MS. ROBINSON: The game that I just figured out
is as follows. So obviously the boys have figured out
how to get the huge projects to PRIDE and
ServiceSource.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay?
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: And all of a sudden, so -- so,
anyway, I told -- let me back up a little bit. I told
Bob about the national award. You know, he kind of
read it, oh, you know, he said all the right things,
but you could kind of tell he was not happy.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: Because at the last board meeting
in July, that's always the one where they try to
assassinate me.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
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MS. ROBINSON: So it was no different. They went
into executive session, and this time it was I make
too much money, and Matt says I should be fired, who
is the VP of -- which is Bob's boy. So they went into
executive session, kicked me out.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh-oh.
MS. ROBINSON: But here's the kicker of it. I'm
just a little too close to the game, is what it's
really all about, and so Bob Turner, who is best
friends with Jim Barone and who came to our board a
couple years ago as an advisor, as an independent --
can you hear me okay? Because I'm making soup here,
so --
MR. LOPEZ: No. That's fine. I can hear you.
MS. ROBINSON: Can you hear me?
MR. LOPEZ: Yes, yes.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. So he comes to our board
from -- I don't -- I want to say SAIC, but it's one of
the, you know, bigger companies, but he's Jim
Barone's -- Jim Barone finds this guy, brings him to
our board, okay?
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: And he was always kind of like
anti-Jean because I was saying, you know, hey, you
guys need to do things differently, you got conflicts,
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you're steering -- you know, you know, the normal
stuff.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And so Jim went out and found him,
and he was supposed to be on me, but he was also
supposed to convince the board, since he was a pretty
big muckety-muck, I want to say SAIC, but it's one of
them like that. I'm pretty sure it's SAIC, but I'll
find out exactly where. But since his job was the
head of risk and -- and audit management at that
company, he would say, oh, all this stuff Jean is
telling you guys is over the top, there's no problem,
you don't need to do things differently, you know,
that kind of thing.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: So -- and one of the things I told
them is that they needed to have independent people on
the audit committee who are not attached to CRPs.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: It's like the hen guarding -- the
fox guarding the henhouse.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: So Jim goes and gets this guy who
is allegedly independent, right?
MR. LOPEZ: Allegedly.
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MS. ROBINSON: Well -- well, he was up until
now, but let me just tell you how it works. I mean,
at least on paper he was. I mean, he wasn't
associated with the CRP. He was in risk management
for SAIC. He came upon it. I mean, he has no -- no
ties to CRPs other than he has a kid, he has a
disabled daughter who I guess recently passed away.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: But I will tell you he never liked
me from day one and he was kind of brought there to --
but that -- that has nothing to do with what I'm going
to tell you, but I just want to disclose that I have
no love lost for the guy.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: So, anyway, you know, I'd say go
left; he'd say, oh, no, we should go right, you know,
whatever. You know, he was -- he was telling Bob --
and he's very good friends with Bob Chamberlin.
MR. LOPEZ: Bob Turner.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, with Bob Chamberlin.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: But, see, Bob Chamberlin and Jim
Barone are best friends.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And this guy was Jim Barone's best
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friend as well.
MR. LOPEZ: Gotcha.
MS. ROBINSON: So he's about as independent as --
as my brother would be if he were, you know, on the
board.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure, sure.
MS. ROBINSON: But nevertheless, nevertheless,
they bring him in, but then they bring him in as an
advisor, and he's just there so that every time I
would bring up let's change this policy or this
practice is inequitable, he would say how that's
really not necessary, he's an expert, he comes from,
you know, a federal contractor, you know, and we don't
need to do it. So he was always there to pour water
on everything.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: So then there was this, I don't
know, scheme, for lack of a better word, where Dennis
Fields was going to start this ESOP veterans-owned,
you know, this whole pilot project and all of that,
right?
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And so all of a sudden the guy
went away. I mean, you know, he went away. They
brought him in when they needed to to help change some
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governance things, get some people off who were making
noise, etcetera, etcetera, and then he went away.
Then he showed up again about a year ago.
MR. LOPEZ: The same Bob Turner?
MS. ROBINSON: Yes, Bob Turner.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: Just keep that name in your mind.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And he shows up again about a year
ago.
MR. LOPEZ: Uh-huh.
MS. ROBINSON: And they put him on the audit
committee, and then the audit committee keeps trying
to assassinate me, and, you know, he's their advisor,
and he's meeting privately with Bob and Dennis and all
of that and I know with Jim Barone because they're
best friends. So he's making these disparaging
comments, you know, about I have to go, you know, the
whole nine yards.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: But I can't do anything about it
because they keep reappointing him and he's -- he's
our guy who -- who's independent supposedly.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: He has no connection to a CRP or
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anything like that. And so he's the one, for example,
during -- when we were trying to settle with you was
trying to say, oh, no, don't do that. You know, he's
there to carry Jim Barone and Bob's water --
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: -- under the independent voice --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: -- you know, on paper, so -- but,
you know, as you say -- I always tell you God takes
care of fools and babies.
MR. LOPEZ: That's right.
MS. ROBINSON: He decides to go out and start a
company, a veteran-owned disabled business.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: And he decides to get a black guy
as his partner, and I think the other guy is Middle
Eastern, but I'm not sure, but he's not, you know,
just straight American.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: So they form this veterans-owned
business, and all of a sudden I start seeing the guy
in the building a couple days a week.
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: And then they assign him to work
with our internal auditor, Goli Trump, who's another
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crazy one, but -- and he's like there every day. So,
I mean, you know me, you know I got to make smart
comments every so often. So I say to the guy -- I see
him like three times in a week. So I said, we should
get you an office here --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: -- because you're here so much,
you know. And there's all these closed-door,
behind-the-scenes meetings, and I can't -- and Dennis
has got all these -- you know, I have access to his
calendar. He's got all these private appointments on
his calendar with this guy. I'm kind of watching, you
know, watching how it's working.
And so he didn't like my comment when I said
that. I said (unintelligible). We were walking down
the hall, and I said, you know, we ought to get you an
office here because you seem to be here a lot lately.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: He didn't think it was funny, but
I thought it was hilarious, but anyway. So the next
thing I know is the last commission meeting, the only
one that David -- okay?
MR. LOPEZ: That David --
MS. ROBINSON: The only one that David Gonzales
misses.
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MR. LOPEZ: Yes.
MS. ROBINSON: So right before the commission
meeting, the day before Bob says to me: You're too
busy to go to the commission meeting, aren't you? I
mean, you got time for that? You don't have to go to
this one. Now, whatever I'm doing, you understand I
have to drop whatever I'm doing and now I got to go,
because Bob is subtly trying to steer me away from it.
MR. LOPEZ: That's right.
MS. ROBINSON: So I go. So about halfway through
here comes this nattily dressed black guy, and they
got this presentation on the agenda for this
veteran-owned business.
MR. LOPEZ: Um-hmm.
MS. ROBINSON: I'm like, what does that have to
do with AbilityOne? You know, I was very confused.
So the guy gets up there, and he starts talking. Now,
here's the problem. When you -- when you enlist the
Martin Williams and whoever this guy's name is, and I
don't know his name, they're not the brightest people
in the world. So when you enlist them, you have to
really brief them up good, otherwise they say and do
stupid stuff. So they're up making this presentation
before the commission, and I'm looking at Bob, and I'm
looking at Dennis, and, you know, everybody is
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slapping five and, hey, hey, how you doing and, you
know, chummy-chum.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And they're making this about how
they're going to, you know, have these veteran-owned
businesses and how they can partner with AbilityOne
and so forth and so on. So they let the two people --
his two other partners, Bob Turner's two other
partners get up, and Bob Turner is not at the meeting,
okay, because that would have been too obvious,
because, remember, Bob is our independent audit
committee member and he's our independent board member
and he's been our great, great advisor. So, you know,
they got sense enough not to trot him out --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: -- to make a presentation to the
commission, so -- but I didn't get the connection. I
thought, well, okay, I'm not so sure what -- this is a
waste of everybody's time, it doesn't seem to have
much connection to the AbilityOne program, it is going
to help, you know, disabled veterans, that's a great
thing, I'm -- I'm real happy for that and all that,
but why the hell are we getting this presentation and
why is Bob and Dennis all involved in it.
So Dennis introduces the guy. So the black guy
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gets up there. He wasn't very articulate, but he gets
up there, and he starts talking about their company,
and he starts saying, well, you know, our company was
formed by -- the name of the company is -- I forget
what it is, but at the end, the last name of it is Bob
Turner's daughter's name.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh.
MS. ROBINSON: And so this guy goes on to
explain, and our other partner, who is Bob Turner.
Well, now I wake up, you know, because I'm
half-asleep.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Wake up. Is Bob Turner, and his
daughter was disabled, and she passed away, and he's,
you know, a partner in this company, and he goes on
talking about Bob Turner. So I look over there at
Bob's face, like -- Bob is like, oh, man, we should
have probably told him not to say that, but he doesn't
know. You know, this guy is pretty innocent and not
real bright. So he's going on and on about Bob
Turner. Well, the commission members don't know,
because they don't really know our board members by
name or anything.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: They're not making any connection,
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but I'm making a great big connection, right?
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: I'm going, oh, okay, I get it, I
get it, I get it. Okay. So I thought, well, that's a
hell of a conflict. Then more closed-door meetings go
on. After the commission meeting Dennis is meeting
with Bob Turner, Joe Diaz is meeting with Bob Turner,
everybody is meeting with Bob Turner except poor
little Jean Dangerfield, you know.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: He's looking kind of silly at me
every time he sees me, but, you know, I'm thinking,
boy, this guy is -- so they said, well, Bob Turner. I
said, is he working for us now? No, he's a
consultant, he's not taking any money, but he's --
he's giving us some advice on this and that. I said,
oh, yeah, because he's spending a lot of time here, in
fact I say we should get him an office. That didn't
go over real well, but you know me.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: I'm going to say what I'm going to
say.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: They don't say anything, and then
the next audit committee where they're supposed to be
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beat on Jean, because I'll have to tell you how I got
(unintelligible) at the board meeting, but that's
another side story.
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: So at least I backed him up off of
me at least publicly anyway. What he does behind my
back maybe, you know, I don't care. So we're at the
meeting, and all of a sudden Bob Turner is no longer
taking shots at me.
MR. LOPEZ: Huh.
MS. ROBINSON: I'm like, well, he's been taking
shots at me for over a year now, you know, what
happened? Did somebody put some poison in his -- you
know, what's going on?
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: He's kind of quiet. He'd kind of
agreeing with a few things that I say. You know, that
shocks the crap out of me. So at the end of the
meeting, the July meeting is the meeting where I hand
out conflict of interest disclosure forms that have to
be filled out by board members.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: So he comes up to me at the end of
the meeting. He says, Jean, I need -- you're counsel,
I need to sit down with you to fill out my form.
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I said: What do you mean? Can I answer a question
for you? I mean, you can fill it out on your own.
That's where you disclose any conflict, any related
transactions with SourceAmerica, you know, etcetera.
So he says, well, I don't know if I need to
disclose this or not, but my company -- well, you know
I have three -- three people from my company work for
Joe Diaz over in the East region.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, my.
MS. ROBINSON: They're veterans. I said:
Really. When did that happen? How did that happen?
Well, they're on loan -- he says, they're on loan to
NISH. And I said: They're on loan to us? What do
you mean? I said: Well, you don't have to disclose
that. I mean, that's -- that's great. I mean, nice
of you guys to do that.
He said, well, no, we get a fee for it. I said,
really, how much? So he said something like that
60,000. I said, oh, okay, well, yeah, you need to
disclose that. I said, but -- he said, but what else
do I need to disclose about it? I said, well,
whatever -- you know, the questions on there are
pretty specific. They have to do with the percentage
of a company that you own and how much revenue, and
it's pretty damn clear, he didn't need me to, you
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know. So I said, well, you got to fill this out on
your own, I can't really help you, or you've got to
get your own counsel.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: That's what I told him. I said, I
can't -- you know, I can't really help you with this.
So it was clear to me, you know, he'd already met with
Bob and Jim Barone and whatever. But I said, you
definitely must declare it, yes. So he discloses it.
He hands me the form, says, here, I'm going to hand
this back to you. Why don't you keep it, I said, and
go over with your counsel and -- because I don't feel
comfortable giving you tax advice or even this kind of
advice because I don't know enough about your
company --
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: -- and its relationship with NISH
to really advise you properly, and I'm not your
counsel per se.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: So he said, no, no, no, you go
ahead and keep it. I said, okay, well, if you -- you
understand that the duty to disclose conflicts is an
ongoing duty, and, you know, you can supplement this.
And he said, okay. So I put the thing in my
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briefcase.
All right. So the next thing I know, we're in
the -- we're in the senior staff meeting, and Matthew,
the other snake, I mean, actually my assassin, says,
oh, I just want to announce, very casually, that we
hired -- we hired three people in the East region.
Really. In what area? You know, business
development. I said, really, three. He said, well,
yeah, they were people from Bob Turner's company.
Well, he didn't say Bob Turner. He said whatever the
name of the company is. And I said, really. I said,
isn't that Bob Turner's company? You know, didn't
look up from my paper.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MR. ROBINSON: Yeah. He said, oh, we hired them.
Well, did other employees have a chance to compete for
the jobs, etcetera, etcetera, I said, because, you
know, a lot of people like project manager jobs
and -- oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was fair and open
competition. I said, oh, okay, that's interesting, I
said, because -- and then what I did when I got back
from the board meeting, I meet with Bob and Dennis
every week, and what I do on that is everything that I
find that's problematic, I put it on my agenda to talk
to them about it.
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MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: But I'm really just creating a
written record that, you know, I talked to them about
it this date. So one of the things I had on my agenda
was we need to look closer at Bob Turner's conflict
with NISH. He's supposed to be an independent audit
committee member, but now I understand based on his
discussion with me at the board meeting that his
company is receiving -- his company is placing people
here and receiving money for it, okay?
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: So I write it down, and what I
write in the agenda for my meeting for Bob and Dennis
is discuss conflict of issue, code of conduct issues
regarding Bob Turner and his affiliation with -- that
pisses them off, just that line, because now I got it
in writing somewhere.
But we get to that, and I said, well, you know,
this may be -- this may be a done deal, I mean, it may
not be an issue, I said, because it appears that he
disclosed it, but it's a little bit of a problem
because I don't know -- I don't think -- what I need
to get from you and Dennis, and they go red in the
face, I need to get a better understanding of what his
relationship is with our company --
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MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: -- before -- so I can decide
whether or not it is indeed, you know, a problem or
not. I don't have enough information. I don't
understand what he's doing. So Dennis kind of glosses
over it and kind of tells me a little bit, you know,
of what he's doing, no more than Bob has already told
me. And so I said, oh, well, this really could be a
bit problematic, I said, but I need to get more
information from him.
And so Bob says, well, I don't think it's a
problem, and Dennis -- they go on and tell me, you
know, it's not a problem. I said, okay, well, I'll
just -- you know, I want to look closer, I want to
understand more, and I'm still confused about why his
company was presenting at the commission meeting
and -- and what that has to do with AbilityOne. So
Dennis tries to give me some excuse, some explanation
that I still didn't understand even after he finished
it, which means it wasn't real.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: And so I said, he's supposed to be
our independent guy, so I think I have some real
issues with -- you know, we really need to look at
that closer, and it came up because at the board
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meeting -- I said, and by the way, you guys always
seem to give David Christmas in July. That's what I
said. What do you mean?
I said, well, you guys voted at the board meeting
on a 7-million-dollar project that you sprung on the
board without a business plan. I said, but when I say
you gave David Christmas in July, because David was in
there, but I don't -- I don't know if David gets all
these things, by the way, but -- so what happened is,
they voted deficit budget, and it becomes
controversial because they're asking for this e-waste
project, they're asking the board to approve a
7-million-dollar expenditure. They don't have a
business plan. They don't have anything.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: They just want $7 million. So Jim
Gibbons, who heads up Goodwill, another one of
the boys in the mafia, as I call it --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: -- all of a sudden got religion.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh-oh.
MS. ROBINSON: He said -- well, he says, I
just -- I find it hard to believe that you guys would
come before the board and ask for a deficit budget, a
million dollars for this project, you don't have a
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business plan. He spoke against it, I don't think we
ought to be doing this. I'm like, damn, he finally --
you know, maybe since he was on TV, remember he was on
Rock 10.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Maybe -- maybe he's realizing he's
got to change his ways. And then -- then about
20 minutes after -- no, about 10 minutes after I
thought that it dawned on me, because you know I used
to be general counsel for Goodwill a million years
ago, fresh out of law school.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: It dawned on me that there were
about 35 Goodwills already in the e-waste business and
the real reason that he was voting against this was
not because the idiots, you know, want smart business
people and didn't have them, all of the nice, good
reasons he put on record, I mean, they made sense, but
he really was voting against the corporation's
interests and voting in the best interests of his
Goodwill because he wanted to knock out the
competition.
MR. LOPEZ: Of course.
MS. ROBINSON: If NISH goes into that business,
that's going to cut into a business that Goodwill --
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his 35 Goodwills are already in. Do you understand?
MR. LOPEZ: Of course.
MS. ROBINSON: But he said all the right things,
right? So I was like, there is a God, look at that,
these guys are getting religion, even David Spencer
has gotten religion lately, you know, but, anyway, it
only took me about four more minutes to figure out,
no, he said all the right things about why he voted
no, but it had nothing to do with why he really voted
no. The reason he really voted no is because he's
trying to knock out the competition.
And then the very next day he comes back after
the board meeting and asks Dennis for a copy of the
business plan and stuff as a board member, and I said,
you can't give that to him, I said, because he's going
to give it -- he's going to share it with his
affiliates, and that's -- you know, that's just wrong,
that works against NISH's interests. So they
decided -- and Jim is their boy. I mean, he's part
of the Barone, Chamberlin; you know, he's part of that
mafia.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But he's just a little bit too --
too apparent here.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
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MS. ROBINSON: So then there are a couple other
people, Peter Burns and some others who abstained from
the vote, because this whole thing is going to be a
pilot project and they've already figured out who's
going to get it, and so the people who abstained were
the people who were going to get it.
MR. LOPEZ: Of course.
MS. ROBINSON: I just looked and started
laughing. I said, this is ridiculous. The whole darn
thing, you talk about a conflict of interest. So then
a couple people said, oh, it was so obvious, you know,
so even everybody knew that that was a problem. I
said, well, you know, we should bring them up on it.
You guys threw David off the board for unmanageable
conflict, and this is certainly a conflict, and it's
not manageable, and this guy breached his duty to
disclose.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, anyway, we got -- we got
through all that. Well, that was also on my agenda to
discuss on the Tuesday following the board meeting
along with Bob Turner's conflict. So there was just
conflict on both sides. You got a good guy and a bad
guy, but, you know. And so Bob, he spent more time on
the Jim Gibbons' conflict and lack of disclosure than
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on the Bob Turner.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: He kind of got me off that. I
mean, they didn't really get me off it, but we didn't
spend any time on it.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: We spent all the time talking
about what Gibbons should have done, right?
MR. LOPEZ: Right. Right, right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: So now -- so yesterday I'm in this
all-day farce of a meeting, these trainings that
supposedly rose out through B-1, and Bob walks up to
me frantic. Oh, how come you weren't here at 8:00
o'clock? I said: Well, because I have to put my kid
on a bus. I told you I'm not going to be here at 8:00
o'clock. I mean, Martin -- Martin purposely excluded
legal from this whole thing, and you're bugging
me about -- but, anyway, the bottomline is, he said:
But also I need to talk to you. Did Bob Turner talk
to you? Bob Turner is bothered by his conflict.
Bob Turner ain't bothered by his conflict. What
Bob Turner is bothered by is the fact that I put it in
writing on an agenda that it was an issue and a
concern to Bob and Dennis, and they went back and
said, yep, she's on to it.
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MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: So he comes up to me trying to
get out in front of it yesterday by saying, I need you
to meet with Bob Turner because he's not sleeping
nights worried about his conflict. I said: What
conflict? $60,000? I mean, that's nothing not to
sleep over. I mean, he disclosed it; it's not a
problem. He says, well, what is your role in
determining -- this is Bob Chamberlin asking me this,
you know, my boss asking me.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: What is your role in determining
whether or not somebody's disclosure is in fact a
conflict? So I said: What are you talking about,
Bob? I don't understand the question. You know,
because at first he didn't say Bob Turner's name, he
just asked me this sort of generic question in the
blind.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And I said: I don't think I
understand your question, Bob. What did you -- he
said, well, Bob Turner, you know, he's really
bothered. I said, well, why is he bothered? He said,
well, he's concerned -- I said, he's concerned about
the fact that he's placing people at our company and
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we're paying him a fee and he's supposed to be an
independent board member. I already told you guys
I thought that, you know, might be problematic and we
need to drill down further, but that's nothing to keep
the guy up at night. You know me.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: So then he says, well, no, that's
not -- what he's bothered by now is that this
National -- this NGA project, he is the subcontractor
to ServiceSource. I said, what do you mean "he" is?
Well, his company. I said: Oh, really. And how did
that happen? You know me.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: He says: Well, you got to meet
with him about it because I guess -- this is Bob -- I
guess he's probably going to have to resign from the
board or something. I mean, I hate to lose him as a
board member. He's one of the best board members
we've ever had. This is Bob's speech to me.
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: He said, but -- he said, but it
may mean -- I mean, you need to look at that
situation. I said, well, Bob, I'm the one who brought
it to your attention, remember? But I was unaware
that he is the subcontractor. What are you talking
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about NGA? You know.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: I said, I need to get a lot
smarter before I meet with this guy. Well, you need
to meet with him right away, I need you to call him
right away. And I said, well, explain to me what's
going on, what's the relationship. I said: Did NISH
take him as the subcontractor to ServiceSource? I
mean, what he does with ServiceSource is his business,
but how did ServiceSource even get the project?
And so Bob says, well, I don't have all the
details, which is total bullshit. I don't have all
the details, but you need to get all that stuff from
Martin, and when you get that stuff from Martin -- and
one of the reasons that I ended up falling asleep last
night before I called you back, because I was trying
to get from Martin -- I was trying to get him -- he
would not call me back. He didn't call me back until
like 6:00 o'clock this morning.
MR. LOPEZ: Um-hmm.
MS. ROBINSON: I was trying to get a little bit
more G2 about, you know, how ServiceSource got
selected, what the project was all about. I knew it
was in St. Louis, and I knew they had decided to give
it to ServiceSource. So I was just trying to get a
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little more from the horse's mouth kind of, you know,
information, but he wouldn't -- he never called me
back, "he" meaning Martin.
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: And so I called him under the
guise of, hey, Martin, Bob wants me to meet with Bob
Turner immediately about what he thinks is a conflict
that we got to figure out what to do about except I
don't know enough about the project and whether we
competed it or whatever. That's the message I leave
him, but he didn't call me back last night.
So he calls me at 6:15 this morning. My phone
rings; it's Martin. Hey, I was busy, blah blah blah.
What do you want to know? So I said, well, what I
want to know is, explain this NGA project to me and,
you know, what's going on with it, who applied, did we
advertise it, you know, because I want to look at all
those things. I said, did we advertise it, you know,
explain to me what's going on, so -- I got to see if I
like cilantro before I put it in my soup.
MR. LOPEZ: You will. It's a good, good, good,
good spice.
MS. ROBINSON: All right. I'm going to put it in
there --
MR. LOPEZ: In moderation.
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MS. ROBINSON: -- based on what you told me.
MR. LOPEZ: In moderation.
MS. ROBINSON: Now, do I not use a lot, just a
little, right?
MR. LOPEZ: Just a little. Not the thick parts
of the stock, just the leaves and a little bit of the
tender stock.
MS. ROBINSON: That's what I'm putting in there
are the leaves.
MR. LOPEZ: There you go.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. So, anyway, so Martin calls
me this morning, and he says, well, Jean, you know,
yeah, we advertised it. He said -- I said, well, who
applied? He said, well, just ServiceSource and PRIDE.
Wait a minute, hold on. Now I knew why.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: I said: Why? Why just
ServiceSource and PRIDE? He said: Well, just
ServiceSource and PRIDE because you needed a
top-secret clearance, and we only have two agencies in
our whole program that have that. It happens to be
ServiceSource and PRIDE.
I said, oh, you know, because I didn't want him
to think I was on to anything, you know. I was
just -- I said: Oh, wow. Okay. And so how come you
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guys didn't give it to PRIDE? And, you know,
everybody knows that I hate PRIDE.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Everybody knows that I have
single-handedly stood in the way of PRIDE getting a
few multimillion-dollar projects in the last two
years.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: I mean literally. I mean, so --
he said, well, you know, with ServiceSource, we just
decided it would be ServiceSource. I said, well, how
did you decide that? And I said, well -- he said,
well, they're the only ones with the top-secret
clearance. I said, okay, well, I got that now, and
I'll come back to that later, Martin, but explain to
me how Bob Turner is in the middle of this and why Bob
thinks it's imperative that I meet with him. You know
how -- you know me. I'm going through this thing.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And he said, well, because
ServiceSource -- it's a TFM project, and ServiceSource
has contracted with Bob Turner's company to complete
part of the contract, apparently.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: I said, oh, how much revenue? Oh,
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that I don't know. I said, well, which part of it
are they doing? That he didn't know. And it just
went on and on and on, right?
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And it was like 6:15 in the
morning, quite frankly, and I said, well, somebody has
got to get me all that information because I can't
really meet with the man and determine whether or
not -- you know, how big this conflict is until I have
a little better information, I said, because, you
know, you don't seem to know. How big is the TFM
contract? Not very big, he said. And so John tells
me later, though, that that's not true, that it is a
big contract.
MR. LOPEZ: It's a big, big contract.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. So but, I mean, I kind of
figured that out by the fact that Bob pulled my ass
out of a meeting, okay?
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: And is trying to get this guy
cleared up. I said: Well, has it already been
determined that it's definitely going to
ServiceSource, and has it already been determined that
Bob Turner's group is definitely going to be the
subcontractor? Well, yes and no. Martin, it's 6:15
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in the morning. Could you please, yes or no, which
is -- what is the answer? Well, kind of, because
really there's nobody else can have it, and the
commission has decided that ServiceSource can have it,
that they're suitable for it. I said, really. I
said, well, has anybody -- I said, are any of my
problem children -- that would be you, Gonzales, and a
few others. I said, any of my problem children make
any noise about this? Well, no, because they couldn't
apply anyway because they don't have top-secret
clearance.
I said, that's true. I said, you know, this
top-secret thing is an issue, you know. I said, this
top-secret thing is a problem, I think, because
basically we've got all these things coming on line.
I said, now what about this other 500-million-dollar
thing that I happen to call a base in a suitcase
because it reminds me of -- remember the Jetsons and
all that futuristic stuff?
MR. LOPEZ: Right. I do.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, the government has a project
that they've decided to put in the AbilityOne program
where like, for example, if we decide to go into
Syria, they have these modular bases set up, and the
bases are built like here, like somebody builds the
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garage, somebody builds the galley, somebody -- it's
all in one big, huge modular like building --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: -- that is set in place by GPS.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: You know, you're going into
dangerous places. So obviously that's going to be
top-secret.
MR. LOPEZ: Of course.
MS. ROBINSON: That's obvious. Okay. It's a
huge, huge -- I mean, I think it's like 500 million.
It's like -- I can't even remember, but it was just --
the money was just out of this world, and they've
decided to put it in our program.
MR. LOPEZ: Um-hmm.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, nobody is going to be able
to apply for that either except for --
MR. LOPEZ: ServiceSource and PRIDE.
MS. ROBINSON: -- ServiceSource and PRIDE.
MR. LOPEZ: Exactly.
MS. ROBINSON: So I've got it figured out.
That's why I told you, I came to the party late. So
what they've done -- what they've done, essentially
the reason PRIDE has passed on a lot of projects
recently and they haven't really cared and they
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haven't been bitching and moaning about stuff is
because Bob and Jim Barone, the rest of them, have --
now they've got, what's his name, Bob Turner's company
as directed stuff. I don't know what their
affiliation is with that company, but I guess they're
smart enough not to put -- you know, have any
corporate affiliation with it, but the bottomline on
all of this is if they -- if they get those two
projects they would never need another project in the
world, obviously.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: And so ServiceSource gets this one
in St. Louis, and PRIDE is going to get this other big
one.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: And is Bob Turner's company, are they
top-secret? Do you know?
MS. ROBINSON: Don't know. Maybe, because
he's -- you know, he came from SAIC. I don't know.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: But now I did a little -- okay.
So walk me through this, okay? Because I have a
friend who's a general who used to -- who's actually
in our program.
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MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And he used to be the head of --
he's like the first African-American in intelligence.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: But I was just asking him some
general questions, and I said, in order for you to get
a facility top-secret clearance, as I understand it,
your -- for organization top-secret clearance, your
organization has to be -- have top-secret work, they
have to have somewhere where they've done top-secret
work, and then you -- you know, you get it because of
that work that you're doing, but it's not
transferrable. I mean, it's always associated with a
particular project, correct?
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. So for us to put in a
requirement that you can only apply if you already
have it is not -- is not -- is more than what the
government would be requesting because the government
would generally just say, okay, Ruben, if you get
this, if your company would be the one that is
selected, you've got a year or you've got, you know,
nine months to get your clearance.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: Right? Correct?
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MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. So there's no need for us
to screen these projects ahead of time by saying --
so what we could say in the opportunity notice or in
the SSN is you need to be top-secret eligible.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: Your organization needs to
understand that if you were given this project you
have a set amount of time to get that or you can't
have the project.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: But the way we're doing it is
we're saying, Ruben, your organization or any other
can't even apply even if you could go and get a
top-secret organizational clearance because we're only
going to let people apply who have managed to get that
somewhere else at some other time.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct.
MS. ROBINSON: That only limits the pool to two
people.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct.
MS. ROBINSON: In our case two organizations, I
mean.
MR. LOPEZ: Of course.
MS. ROBINSON: And so what we should be saying is
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everybody can apply, right? Everybody could apply,
but with the understanding and the caveat that you
understand if you are to get it that you've got to
go and get this clearance by whatever time frame the
government says.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: And the government probably
doesn't care as long as they believe you stand a
pretty decent chance of getting that, right?
MR. LOPEZ: Of course, of course. That's usually
how it goes. Absolutely.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. So why -- I'm just -- this
is rhetorical, Mr. Lopez. So why have we opted to
say, no, you can't even apply unless you've already
gotten top-secret at some other point in your life?
MR. LOPEZ: That's an interesting approach. It
truly is.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, but it's an approach -- it's
actually kind of brilliant on their part. I didn't
realize they were this smart. It's an approach that
when I come up to them and say, you know, who applied
for this, they can say, well, Jean, we wish more
people were eligible, but they weren't because we only
had two people and it's a government requirement that
it be top-secret.
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MR. LOPEZ: Now, I heard --
MS. ROBINSON: And it positions them and their
offshoot companies, their subsidiary companies like
Turner and the rest of them, to get these big, big ass
projects that are coming on line.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct. Let me give you an example,
and I have a question, as a matter of fact. The NGA
project there near you.
MS. ROBINSON: St. Louis. It's in St. Louis, the
one we're talking about.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. No, there's another one that
they advertised, and we were all ready to present
which is near you.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: And they put the kibosh on that until
further notice. That's the one that CH2M Hill and we
were ready to present on, and then suddenly they said,
sorry, you know, the government has decided to -- to
suspend it for a little bit, we don't know when, until
when. It's NGA, but it's right there, the big complex
next to you, across -- across the Potomac, I think,
from you.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay, okay, okay. I don't know
about that one, but okay.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. So we're thinking -- you know,
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we're waiting and we're thinking -- we've asked, and
they won't answer. And when I asked this TFM guru
in your office -- what's his name? Oh, my goodness.
It's not Tom Degan, but --
MS. ROBINSON: Heath?
MR. LOPEZ: The only one that does TFM there in
your office.
MS. ROBINSON: The only one that does TFM in the
national office, you mean?
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, national. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
MS. ROBINSON: Oh, Rhett Linke.
MR. LOPEZ: Yes.
MS. ROBINSON: Rhett?
MR. LOPEZ: I think so. Anyway, I talked to him,
and he just -- he cannot hold my gaze, and he says,
we'll call you guys whenever the government sits back
on the table. And I says, you're going to call all of
us? Yes. I said, how many are we? He says, well,
there were many of you. Really. Well, when we had a
meeting with Martin William and he disclosed to us
that there were only three of us who had applied for
that project, only three, not -- not many of us.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah.
MR. LOPEZ: And now we keep asking them what's
going on, and they won't answer, not a peep from you
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guys. So meaning that I suspect they're getting one
of those companies ready to be top-secret clearance
cleared and they'll have a third one. Maybe it's Bob
Turner's company. I don't know.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, they may already be, but Bob
Turner's company is small and they just started, but
they're just going to get all the subcontract stuff.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct.
MS. ROBINSON: But, no, I mean, I think what
they're doing is probably giving PRIDE and
ServiceSource and you're right. Oh, CW Resources also
got a piece of this, Bob Turner's company and CW
Resource and ServiceSource.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay, okay.
MS. ROBINSON: Those are the -- those are the
three. Okay?
MR. LOPEZ: Very good.
MS. ROBINSON: But -- so now what's so
interesting about this is how they're going to try and
wiggle, I guess, for lack of better words, their way
out of this with Turner.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: I mean, he's got the project. But
I don't think it's a done deal that ServiceSource is
the one who has to get this project. Do you
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understand what I'm saying?
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
MS. ROBINSON: I think no one has made noise yet,
and so therefore it's kind of a done deal, and a
lot -- it isn't on a lot of people's radar screen
because they haven't even bothered to look at it
because the notice says you can't apply unless you
have top-secret.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: So people just figure, well,
that's legit and it's not even something for me to --
organization, it's not even something for me to
consider, but systemically what we've got to do in
order to open this game up a little bit is we've got
to stop making that a screening tool for who can
apply.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: Anybody can apply as long as they
understand that if the project is awarded to them they
will have to get that clearance within X number of --
you know, in a certain time frame.
MR. LOPEZ: Certain -- certainly. I have a
question for you.
MS. ROBINSON: Whatever the government sets as
that time frame, and I don't know what that is, so --
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MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. Usually three to six months.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah. And I guess top-secret
could be as much as a year, I would think.
MR. LOPEZ: It's a year. Sure, sure. It's true.
MS. ROBINSON: In this day and time. But I don't
know, because I haven't done all of my homework
because the boys were ahead of me on this one, quite
frankly.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. Now, Jean, let me ask you a
question.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: How is it that the board of directors
manipulates or directs SourceAmerica staff to do their
bidding? How does that work out? How does that
happen?
MS. ROBINSON: What do you mean by that?
MR. LOPEZ: Well, Martin William and Joe Diaz and
Dave Dubinsky.
MS. ROBINSON: What do they get out of it, you
mean?
MR. LOPEZ: No. How do they -- how do these
individuals as individuals work for the benefit of the
board of directors or the nonprofit agencies that
these boards of directors -- the NISH's board of
directors help?
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MS. ROBINSON: Well, there's not that many
individuals. There's basically Martin. Martin is
the big guy.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: So you cool off Martin and you
give him, you know, this made-up job as vice president
of all things important for the region.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: I mean, what's the difference
between his job and Dennis's job?
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. And there really isn't.
Okay. You give him this job. You know, the guy
started there as a clerk. He thinks he's going to
have Bob's job. He's not that bright. He loves
power. His ego is big.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: And he thinks he's, you know,
kingpin.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Which he is.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: I mean, think about it.
MR. LOPEZ: Before we go --
MS. ROBINSON: Now, what the CRPs, what
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ServiceSource and Peckham, which is another
discussion, what they're giving Martin, I don't know,
or if they're giving him anything. Now, so it isn't
necessarily the board as a whole. It's the
individuals who manage to get themselves on the board.
MR. LOPEZ: I see. I see.
MS. ROBINSON: So in addition to being in the
region or whatever, they're also on the board.
MR. LOPEZ: I see.
MS. ROBINSON: So Martin is buddy-buddy with
Mitch Tomlinson, for example, with Peckham, which is
our number one revenue source, and, you know, keeping
them happy is important, because they can make your
life pretty miserable if you don't, because they can
say to Bob, you know, that damn Martin or that damn
Jean.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Why do you keep them?
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: And they do say stuff like that.
I mean, and that's the other part of it. They do.
MR. LOPEZ: I gotcha. I understand. I
understand.
MS. ROBINSON: And so that's kind of what's going
on in that regard.
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MR. LOPEZ: I get it. Now, let me ask you this.
For example, when they put the kibosh on Bona Fide
and all of the executive directors in all of the
regions, is that something they would have discussed
during their weekly meetings?
MS. ROBINSON: No. See, what happens is, the
people like Joe and Micky and the rest of them who
play along with the game, that's all done through
phone conversations, etcetera, and then they know
they're going to have to come through legal. In other
words, like in your case, in Bona Fide's case, they
know because of the agreement --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: -- that we get to ask questions
that they're going to have to answer that they
normally wouldn't have to answer, but they also know
that -- that's why I said the top-secret thing is
brilliant, because they're never going to have to
answer to legal. I may not even -- we may not even
know some of these projects are coming on line, you
know, unless we're paying attention to every little
thing, because none of the litigants or the
detractors, as you're referred to --
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: -- would be eligible to apply.
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That's why it's so brilliant.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But you can kind of do this
quietly until it's almost like a done deal. You know
what I mean?
MR. LOPEZ: Sure, sure.
MS. ROBINSON: Until it's on the list, given to
somebody, etcetera, because no one is really --
there's no oversight.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right. Now, for example, what
about the Puerto Rico project, the one that's a GSA
project out there in Puerto Rico? Now, that one
there -- there has to be oversight by you, by the
legal department.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. Well, and on that one,
Micky walked up to me at the end of the session today.
We've all been in this thing for two and a half days,
from sunup to sundown literally. And he says: Jean,
you're really holding up my progress here. I really
need to push the button. The customer is anxious.
The commission is anxious. Everybody is anxious. And
remind me to tell you how Tina asked me to lunch and I
blew her off.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But -- but the bottomline is, is
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that -- and she's in the middle of this thing with
Chamberlin and Bob Turner and Jim Barone and all of
them too, because there's no way she would support
this craziness if she wasn't promised something,
but --
MR. LOPEZ: You mean Tina, Tina Ballard.
MS. ROBINSON: Oh, yeah. Absolutely, absolutely.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Which is another way it can all
work because you've got to have the commission on
board with you. Remember, all we do is make a
recommendation; it's actually the commission that
awards something.
MR. LOPEZ: Well, yeah, yeah, on paper, but
remember that GAO report said that that's not true,
that it is --
MS. ROBINSON: Well, no, no, no. Well, it's true
that they rubber-stamp.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But I mean technically speaking,
if you had somebody over there that was really
monitoring what we were doing and really asking
questions, it wouldn't be a rubber-stamp.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, but they're -- yeah, you're
right.
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MS. ROBINSON: But it is.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah.
MS. ROBINSON: We all understand it is, but --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But, anyway. But what the
bottomline is, is that right now on the Puerto Rico
thing, I said, Micky, I want to see all the paper.
Well, I can't -- you know, I need to push the button
by Monday. I said, well, send it to me
electronically, I'll look at it over the weekend, I
need to see -- what do you need to see? Well, I need
to see Bona Fide's proposal, I need to see the winning
proposal. Who did I tell you they were going to give
it to?
MR. LOPEZ: You didn't.
MS. ROBINSON: Let me think, who was in the --
oh, they're going to give it to an agency that is
there, that already has a presence in Puerto Rico or
is already there, and that's the major excuse they're
going to -- I said, so what kind of contract is it,
Micky? He said, janitorial. I said, oh, really? I
said, oh, that's -- that's Bona Fide's sweet spot.
Yeah, but not in Puerto Rico. And I said, yeah, okay.
All right. I said, well, what's their proposal?
Their proposal wasn't good, it's a GSA project, and --
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and GSA is pushing us to, you know, move this thing
forward, and I can't keep holding it up.
I said, well, when you say you can't keep holding
it up, you know that the minute you tell me that I
need to review something that I need -- that I'm going
to say I need paper. Well, as we stand here today,
first of all, you -- you sent me an e-mail on --
Monday was the holiday. I believe it was Monday or
Tuesday. He sent me an e-mail on Tuesday saying he
thinks he's got a problem, notifying us that he's
about to award something that ain't going to go to you
guys.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: And so I said, so you've had from
Tuesday till Friday, to today, to get us the
paperwork. I mean, am I just -- I looked at him. I
said: Am I supposed to just take your word for it,
Micky, that they weren't the best candidate? That's
not what I call monitoring. I will need all of the
proposals, the response, the SSN, everything, just get
me the paperwork, and I will read it, and I will --
and I said, but you can give me the executive summary
as we stand here. Did Bona Fide stand a chance? I
mean, were they qualified for it? No. The other
company was head and shoulders over them, they already
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have a presence there, blah blah blah. I said, well,
it doesn't matter whether you -- I mean, janitorial
is janitorial wherever you're doing it, I mean, what's
the big deal.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: And I will tell you -- I said:
Who knows. I don't know. Lopez. You know, maybe
Ruben -- maybe Ruben is from there. He may have more
of a presence than you know.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: You know, I said, so -- but, you
know, I don't know that for sure, but, I said, it
doesn't matter, just give me the paperwork. So he
said: Well, I'll try to get it to you. I'm going to
get on a plane now, and I'll get it to you over the
weekend, but I need to push a button on Monday, and
it's not going to be -- Bona Fide is not going to get
it, and it's solid and it's defensible.
MR. LOPEZ: Guess what --
MS. ROBINSON: And it wasn't -- whoever he was
going to give it to was not somebody that I was
familiar with, Corporate somebody, Corporate -- I
don't remember, but it was not a normal name.
MR. LOPEZ: Right. Interesting.
MS. ROBINSON: And Micky is sort of part of the
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mafia, so it wouldn't surprise -- he and Sally
Henderson, wouldn't surprise me. The problem is there
aren't any of the executive directors that have not
been co-opted and are not part of the craziness.
MR. LOPEZ: Who co-opted them, Jean?
MS. ROBINSON: You know, I would assume Bob
Chamberlin and Dennis.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: And Martin.
MR. LOPEZ: Of course.
MS. ROBINSON: But I would assume with the
directors that the number one co-opter would be Martin
Williams because he's their direct immediate boss.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: That's who they got to deal with
every day and deal with his wrath.
MR. LOPEZ: Is he really a psychologist, Jean?
MS. ROBINSON: Martin?
MR. LOPEZ: Yes.
MS. ROBINSON: I don't know. I -- I don't know.
I mean, he might have a degree in it, but I don't
know.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay. Because I --
MS. ROBINSON: He's not very --
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but he told me that he was a psychologist, and then
he -- and then he asked me very openly: Ruben, do
you feel crushed when you don't get a project? And --
MS. ROBINSON: Oh, shut up.
MR. LOPEZ: He did. He did.
MS. ROBINSON: Did he say that to you?
MR. LOPEZ: He asked me, do you feel crushed
when you don't get a project? And I naturally said,
oh, William -- Martin, absolutely, I feel like I can't
breathe.
MS. ROBINSON: I'm sorry. I just found that
funny. So the bottomline is he does have a college
degree, and, you know, I think he played basketball in
college or something. He's just not very bright.
He's not very bright.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. No, no.
MS. ROBINSON: But what's in it for him is the
power that goes with it, you know, like -- talking
about psychology, this whole thing they rolled out for
two and a half days and made everybody in the company
come to, it's supposed to be a revised B-1 process,
but all they did was change the name, and, I mean,
major elements of it aren't even finished, and it's
Martin's project and his baby, and he got to stand
there and they praised it, and Tina and the commission
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staff came. And I looked at Dennis Lockard, and I
said: Should you guys even be here? I mean, based
on the GAO report, do you want to, you know, say
you're part of the process, or what? Anyway.
MR. LOPEZ: So let me ask you.
MS. ROBINSON: The bottomline is --
MR. LOPEZ: They're revamping it. What is the
aim for revamping the B-1 process?
MS. ROBINSON: To make it more fair and
transparent, but they haven't involved legal in it,
and I'm not so sure -- now Martin is trying to get me
to do some ethical situations for the next training,
but they made sure that they purposely excluded us,
and John told them that, you know. And Dennis and Bob
are the brains behind anything that -- that, you know,
is a little bit diabolical. Martin is just the fall
guy. Let me give you an example.
We're now going to implement an alternative
dispute resolution system where Dennis will no
longer -- you guys will no longer be able to appeal to
Dennis. You can appeal to Martin, and Martin can give
you, you know, that crazy-assed answer he's going to
give you.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But then after that it goes to an
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outside arbitrator. I said, well -- you know, which
is clear that they've set Martin up. He doesn't
realize he's -- he's a willing fall guy.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But he doesn't realize that's
what's -- what's going on.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: So I said to Dennis, what's the --
why would we -- if we're going to have independent
people review our decisions, why do we even have
Martin in the process? And when they appeal, they
appeal -- they get a debrief, so that keeps it a
little bit internal, and if they're not happy with the
debrief and they decide to -- decide to appeal, then
send the whole thing out to the American Arbitration
Association and let -- why do you have Martin, you
know, being the first level? Do you understand what
I'm saying?
MR. LOPEZ: Sure, sure.
MS. ROBINSON: Because they always want to keep
him -- they always want to keep somebody internally as
the fall guy, because if an arbitrator on the outside
decides we did blow it, they then can point -- it will
be -- it will be Martin's fault.
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MS. ROBINSON: He can't see that because he's not
very bright.
MR. LOPEZ: Wow. Well --
MS. ROBINSON: He's more -- when you talk about
psychology, he's all excited about the fact that he
still gets to play God with you guys.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: That you still have to appeal to
him.
MR. LOPEZ: Well, great responsibilities incur a
larger number of -- how can I say, of guilt.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, no. I understand. You and
I get it.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: But he doesn't get it, and he's
just not bright enough to get it.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: But he's also mean-spirited and
vindictive, you know.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: Because some of the stuff he does
is just -- you know, he acts under orders, and he
takes orders well, and that's why he's in the position
he's in.
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he just completely destroyed us in front of CH2M Hill
in his own office, you know.
MS. ROBINSON: Right, right.
MR. LOPEZ: That was very stupid of him.
MS. ROBINSON: And now -- see, now that's a --
so, okay, to answer your question, now is that
something somebody put him up to? No. That's his own
stupidity.
MR. LOPEZ: There you go.
MS. ROBINSON: Now, they -- they backed him up.
They didn't say, Martin, that was a dumb thing, after
they put him on the board.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But that's why they like him,
because he's determined to, you know, stamp you out,
stamp me out, stamp out anybody who's saying, is this
stuff really transparent and fair, you guys?
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right. Do you think Dennis
Fields is part of the Bob Turner business? Let me --
let me tell you why I'm saying this, because a year
ago --
MS. ROBINSON: Yes, but I can't -- I can't prove
it. That's why I told you I need help.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: Because -- because he started --
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this has a longer history, and he tried to start this
ESOP stuff with another company that is a for-profit
subcontractor at Fort Bliss. Damn. That's what
happens when you get old. I'll think of their name in
a minute. And why they have this whole -- not Fort
Bliss. Fort Knox. I'm sorry.
MR. LOPEZ: Yes.
MS. ROBINSON: Why they have this whole thing
structured the way they have -- I mean, Bob called me
in and in essence says, you've got to go, because
you're -- you're -- I even heard that you were raining
hard on the commission's parade, everybody was at
fault. I said, yeah, because this thing is a joke the
way you guys got this set up. I said, it's a sham.
You've got a for-profit company who was the incumbent
who's doing the same TFM shit that they were doing
before AbilityOne put this in our program and like you
is simply doing the janitorial, but they were doing
the janitorial before we got the TFM. Do you
understand what I'm saying?
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: It just got all packaged together.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: And this is the one that Dennis
originally was going to partner up with to do this
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veterans disabled -- what is the name of that company?
They're out of Atlanta, starts with a T.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: TTC. You're tried and true, but,
no, it's TTC --
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: -- is their -- you know, it will
come to me in a minute. But the bottomline is and
what happened was, John was new and he didn't know, he
had no idea he was in bed with crooks, so he started
doing some -- Dennis asked him to do some research on
the ESOPs and everything, and then John came to me to
run it by me. They intentionally gave it to John
because they didn't want me, because I would have
said, just what I said when John finished all that
beautiful research, I said, what does this have to do
with AbilityOne?
MR. LOPEZ: Um-hmm. Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: And I said, really, this is
Dennis's retirement plan. And that's what I told you.
The whole scheme is you don't find things because they
haven't acted upon them yet; they're just positioning
things. And so he was going to go run this company,
and they were going to spin off a company -- hold on,
hold on.
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MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: Hang on. Somebody is trying to
get my line. Hang on one minute.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
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MS. ROBINSON: People up in the endless greed.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: And this thing with Bob Turner and
the PRIDE, ServiceSource, and all that is just a
little too -- I mean, that one is not complicated
enough. I mean, you can figure that one out pretty
easily.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: You know what I mean?
MR. LOPEZ: Yes, yes.
MS. ROBINSON: So I think they're getting sloppy
now, although the screening out of potential
applicants who could yell, like you and others, by not
allowing you to apply is brilliant because there's no
light shed on it, even if it's through a small, little
appeal.
MR. LOPEZ: Of course, of course.
MS. ROBINSON: That part is pretty good on their
part. That's a -- that's a classic Bob Chamberlin,
Jim Barone kind of move.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right. Now --
MS. ROBINSON: So -- so that's what you're --
that's basically what you're looking at. Now, this
thing in Puerto Rico, how much money are we talking?
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MR. LOPEZ: I think it's 1.5 million.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. So it's sizeable enough to
fight over.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, I mean, I have enough --
MS. ROBINSON: Well, that was bad on my part.
Sorry about that.
MR. LOPEZ: That's okay. No. I have enough
acquaintances in Puerto Rico, I could run that project
with the friends that I have out there alone, just so
you know. I do have a --
MS. ROBINSON: Oh, that's one of the things Micky
said. I said, when you say they don't have a presence
in Puerto Rico, how do you know that? He says, well,
they just know somebody there, and that doesn't count.
MR. LOPEZ: How interesting.
MS. ROBINSON: I said, well, why do they need to
know anybody there, though? Puerto Rico is not like
it's, you know, a foreign country or something. Come
on.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: It's no different than you
applying -- anyway, he said with the government, GSA
is insisting that whoever we select that they have a
presence in Puerto Rico --
MR. LOPEZ: Well, we do.
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MS. ROBINSON: -- already.
MR. LOPEZ: We do. They just don't want to see
it.
MS. ROBINSON: Right, right.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, we do. We do.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, I mean, this is just more of
them determined they're not going to give you. I
mean, based on the big stuff that they're doing right
now --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: -- this NGA and this other what I
call, you know, bases in suitcase thing --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: -- that's coming on line, why
should they care about you, just giving you all
other -- you know, a million-dollar project? I mean,
why would they even care?
MR. LOPEZ: Well, that's interesting.
MS. ROBINSON: You know what I mean?
MR. LOPEZ: Sure, sure.
MS. ROBINSON: It's just -- now it's just
testosterone.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct.
MS. ROBINSON: It's just meanness,
mean-spiritedness at this point.
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MR. LOPEZ: It is. Now, yesterday you mentioned
something about GSA in Illinois or something, you
wanted to share something with me.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. Yeah. Well, I don't know
the problem yet, but when I was out in Chicago getting
my award, the next day I went by the NISH
Northcentral, because Chris Stream is the craziest
person I've ever met in life, but --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: He's Martin's boy, is what he is,
so whatever Martin tells him to do. And the -- when I
was leaving, you know, I said, look, you guys
realize -- see, every town hall that I have, Ruben,
and everywhere I get an audience with these ops
people, I say, you realize that we are monitoring
contracts and that we signed a settlement agreement,
and if you guys are in a -- in a distribution
involving Bona Fide and you have not notified legal or
if you've notified us or you know they're not going to
get it, we need to -- we need to -- we need to
oversee, and you need to be able to explain to me why
they're not getting it. And so in this case, this
guy, not -- not Chris, but ops guy, the employee,
is -- I would say just knowing him over the years,
he's a fairly straight-shooter, honest kind of guy.
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MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: And what he said is GSA is telling
us no way they want Bona Fide for the project.
MR. LOPEZ: For which project?
MS. ROBINSON: And so -- I said, well, why? And
it had something to do with "the door," as I call it.
I call it "the door." And I said, well, why is
GSA saying they don't want Bona Fide? GSA should have
enough of bad-mouthing Bona Fide. I said, but maybe
the GSA regions -- this is my exact answer to him,
because I didn't have a lot of facts.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: I mean, and I was on my way out
the door, and he said he was going to get them to me
this week, and he hasn't yet, but he's been hung up in
the same meeting as I have this week.
But he said -- I said, maybe the -- maybe the GSA
regions aren't talking to each other, I said, because,
you know, Pagliarello and some other people are
sitting around waiting on sentencing for lying, I
said, but in addition, for lying about bad-mouthing
Bona Fide, and GSA shouldn't be bad-mouthing Bona
Fide. Why don't they -- what is it? And so he said
he was going to explain to me what GSA was saying, but
it's GSA supposedly that is blocking whatever is going
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on. Tell me what's going on out there.
MR. LOPEZ: Nothing that I know of. That's my --
that's my -- I'm perplexed. We -- we have one project
in downtown Chicago, which is a small one, but that's
it. We're not in competition for anything at the
moment.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, maybe that's supposed to be
going away.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, okay.
MS. ROBINSON: Have you heard anything maybe the
government wants to take that away?
MR. LOPEZ: No, we have not heard anything. I
mean, we --
MS. ROBINSON: Well, from what you've told me,
it's not enough money to worry about, right? If it
went away, you'd be ahead of the game, or not?
MR. LOPEZ: No. I mean, it's not -- it's a small
project, but still it's significant to allow us a
footprint there in Chicago.
MS. ROBINSON: Right.
MR. LOPEZ: So we wouldn't -- we wouldn't want to
leave Chicago altogether, but I -- I'm wondering, and
there's no one in -- Mike Little, who used to be a
NISH employee, is the only.
MS. ROBINSON: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. His name
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came up. They did say -- well, Mike Little left under
bad circumstances. I've been -- I've been around long
enough to know the Mike Little story, but Mike should
be not an advocate of NISH. He should be on your
side, if there's going to be a choosing of sides.
MR. LOPEZ: Hmm. Who was it that told you? Was
it Chris Stream or his --
MS. ROBINSON: No. No, no, no. I mean, Chris
was standing there, but it was Fred, I want to say.
MR. LOPEZ: What is -- what is the --
MS. ROBINSON: I think the guy's name is Fred
Ashby or something like that.
MR. LOPEZ: What is his position?
MS. ROBINSON: I'm not sure.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: I'm not sure. I'll have to --
I'll have to check it out, but I'll get the facts.
They'll get me all the facts.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right. Okay. Yeah, we --
MS. ROBINSON: But what is Mike Little's role in
all of this? He's a GSA person, right?
MR. LOPEZ: He's a GSA person in charge of all
NISH contracts or now --
MS. ROBINSON: He doesn't like the Northcentral
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that.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: So he would not be doing anything
to help them.
MR. LOPEZ: So then we don't know what -- maybe
it's not true, Jean. Maybe you know how they --
sometimes they throw the government in front to do
their bidding. Maybe they --
MS. ROBINSON: No. I know, I know. I'll find
out the issue, because they weren't clear and there
were -- you know, it was the whole town hall. So they
gave me some skeptical -- you know, just sketchy, not
skeptical, some sketchy facts and said they would get
me everything.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay. Yeah. We would like to
know --
MS. ROBINSON: I'll find out, but I know there's
certainly some issues around that project.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay, okay.
MS. ROBINSON: So I will -- I will find out what
the plan is or what they're saying, but I do know they
were saying it was GSA-motivated. But Chris would do
absolutely anything that Martin told him to do, and if
it's anything about taking -- I mean, right now
Martin's objective is just to pound you into the
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ground.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: You and David.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: In any way that he can, and that's
the direction that he has given in staff, and his
staff are all the executive directors who make the
allocation decisions. So you see how this is working,
right?
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right. No. I did -- I did
sense that. I felt that atmosphere.
MS. ROBINSON: The only one who might stand up to
them, and I can't figure out where he's coming from
yet, is Rick VanHughes out in Northcentral. I mean,
Northwest.
MR. LOPEZ: Um-hmm.
MS. ROBINSON: He doesn't seem to kowtow too much
to Martin, Dennis, or any of them.
MR. LOPEZ: I see.
MS. ROBINSON: I don't know where he's coming
from, but, you know, he may be just as much a part of
them as anybody else, but then he doesn't seem to be
fully co-opted like the rest, and Dave seems to be
getting religion, but only because he's fighting with
Martin.
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MR. LOPEZ: For the time being.
MS. ROBINSON: You understand what I'm saying?
MR. LOPEZ: For the time being.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I
think the Underhill thing is getting to Dave, because
I could never make that connection, but I knew Dave
was having conversation with Underhill and that they
were buddies and the whole nine yards, but I can't
prove it. I mean, some stuff you just can't prove.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, yeah.
MS. ROBINSON: You know, and I think that may
have slowed him up a little bit, okay?
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah.
MS. ROBINSON: Because I never forgot when this
whole thing hit, when the -- when the OIP came and all
that, David was very smug, saying, you know, NISH --
it's not NISH who's being investigated, it's GSA, and
when I later -- as Carlos and them were threatening
and questioning him, I said -- I was on the phone,
but -- and Carlos and Valerie were in the room. You
know, I was just on the phone, and I said, hey, David,
I said, so are you good buddies with these GSA people?
Because how is it that -- you remember when this all
first occurred, and that's what they try to rely that
you'll forget, so much time has gone, I said, when the
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agents came swooping down on my office, you very
smugly argued with me for two days, until you got your
very own subpoena, that this had nothing to do with
NISH and it was all GSA and all of that. And there
were a couple little moves that Dave did in that whole
thing that I couldn't prove it, like when they did
that, I don't know what you call it, but feasibility
study or whatever.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: GSA didn't know how to do that. I
mean, David told them, this is the way that you can
screen out, but yet he was supposed to be fighting for
you guys.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: So all that stuff I couldn't
prove, but David was -- you know, I mean, he's been
around NISH forever, so he was telling them what to
do, and they were -- and they were -- and they were
willing. I mean, they were all kind of doing it
together.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: But I could never really, you
know, prove it. But, anyway, what I said to him, I
said, well, what do you -- what do you know about
Underhill? And Carlos and Valerie, because I wasn't
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in the room, I was just on the phone, it was this
dead silence, and David was like he'd seen a ghost,
and then I said, well, because you obviously talked to
him when this all first started because you -- you
were just too darn sure when the rest of us had no
idea that GSA was -- you know, was as guilty or being
investigated as well and you weren't worried.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: And so he just really froze up and
was really quiet, and so I said, um-hmm, okay, now we
get this. But -- but I couldn't prove it, we couldn't
prove it, so, you know, we just had to just go with
it. So the bottomline is he's gotten a little quieter
and he's taken his stuff underground. I don't think
he's learned his lesson, but he's laying low because
he knows that it could be pretty dangerous for him.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: And Dennis -- I don't know. Him
and Bob -- Bob is -- of that group, Bob is probably
the smartest academically.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct. Let me share with
you two --
MS. ROBINSON: Dennis, I thought was brighter,
but he's just a thug. I mean, I just didn't realize
how much of a thug he is.
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MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But he -- he portrays himself as
being one for fairness and justice, but when you watch
him work or you watch his actions or you watch him,
you know, direct behind the scenes, then you realize
he's probably even a bigger thug than Bob and the rest
of them, you know.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct. Well --
MS. ROBINSON: Because one of the things that's
clear to me is that Bob does not understand
operations.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: And he has a lot of faith in what
Dennis tells him, and Dennis and Martin -- and the
reason they are so hot to get me out of there now
is -- and I'm not bragging. I'm just being honest
with you. I think I understand operations as a result
of all these litigations and appeals and what have
you. I think I understand it, at least what the rules
are supposed to be, even better than Dennis at this
point.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct.
MS. ROBINSON: Because Dennis doesn't understand
it that well, but he's just going to go with whatever.
He's relying on Martin, and I tell you, I would never
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rely on someone like Martin if I was involved in this
kind of stuff to the extent that these guys are.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, but they're relying on him,
but they also have him set up to be the fall guy.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: So when all the shit hits the fan,
he's going to clearly be, you know --
MR. LOPEZ: It.
MS. ROBINSON: -- in sort of the Underhill
position.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct. Exactly.
MS. ROBINSON: You know what I mean?
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, I do.
MS. ROBINSON: Because his name is going to be
all over everything.
MR. LOPEZ: I understand. Well, let me --
MS. ROBINSON: He's the guy who's sustaining the
appeals. He's the guy who's assigning the work. He's
the guy who's making all the calls.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: So one part of me was annoyed that
they would not allow me to fix the B-1 so that it is a
fair and transparent process, and then another part of
me says that's okay, because I'm not sure I want to be
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affiliated with, you know, pretending there's been
revisions. You know what I mean.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: Which are really not going to --
if they're going to keep -- if it's going to be
business as usual --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: -- do I want to be all affiliated
with, you know --
MR. LOPEZ: Part of it.
MS. ROBINSON: -- with NISH, because I gave them
a model that could work for these allocations.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And the model was that they would
have an allocation department, they'd have four or
five people who are really good procurement, have a
lot of government procurement background, contracting
background. Those four or five people would not
interact with staff a whole lot other than to get
resource of information. They would not interact with
the CRPs, so they wouldn't be in anybody's pocket.
You know what I mean?
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: They wouldn't be beholding to
anybody, and they would just run all of our
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competitions.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And we could do our competitions
blindly.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct.
MS. ROBINSON: Why do I need to know that it's
Bona Fide? All I need to know is -- now, sometimes by
process of elimination I might be able to figure it
out.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But why do I need to know? All I
need to know is this -- I could take the names off of
every one of those things --
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. I mean, Jean, let me --
MS. ROBINSON: -- until after I made my
selection. Now, then, you know, at some point you've
got to.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But during the evaluation phase
why do I need to know which CRP it is?
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right. No. I agree.
MS. ROBINSON: What I need to know is what your
capabilities are, what your past performance is, you
know, what you say you're going to do and how you're
going to handle that project.
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MR. LOPEZ: Right. No, no. Let me ask you --
let me share with you some upcoming issues that you
are going to -- that are going to come across your
desk, okay?
MS. ROBINSON: Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: The Alaska project up there in
Anchorage, Alaska, the Elmendorf or something base,
that we were clearly going to participate in suddenly
went off the radar. We're going to inquire as to what
happened there. The NGA project near you in Virginia,
I think it is, their headquarters, we -- we want to
know what's going on. We want to know what happened
as well, went off the radar, no explanation.
MS. ROBINSON: Now, is this one Tina took off?
MR. LOPEZ: I -- I --
MS. ROBINSON: What's the explanation that they
say?
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: I mean, what explanation have they
given us?
MR. LOPEZ: They have not given us other than the
government wants to reconvene at a later time. That's
it. And the later time hasn't come. Lakeview in
MacDill Air Force Base.
MS. ROBINSON: Yes.
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MR. LOPEZ: They've been visiting that project --
Lakeview -- I did not know that Lakeview had most of
the -- of the air -- the base. We, TTTC, is doing the
grounds, but ever since I brought the -- I went to
visit there personally, and one of their contracting
officers said, oh, yeah, NISH was here. And I -- I
said, NISH was here? Yeah, they were looking at the
project. And I said --
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah.
MR. LOPEZ: -- may I ask, what in regards? And
then his boss said, no, we're not going to discuss
that, like he got -- she got scared immediately.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah.
MR. LOPEZ: So she knows what's going on.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: Something is going on with -- with
SourceAmerica and -- and my project in MacDill Air
Force Base.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: Let me remind -- let me share with
you, invite your attention to the fact that a while
back Bob Chamberlin personally asked me, how are you
doing in MacDill Air Force Base?
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, I remember. I remember.
And we walled it off, right?
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MR. LOPEZ: Yes. Right.
MS. ROBINSON: We said we would not say any --
yeah, I remember that. I remember.
MR. LOPEZ: And there is something that you may
not be aware of.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: But when -- Dave Dubinsky gave the
Department of Homeland Security 18 stations here in
San Diego to Job Opps.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah.
MR. LOPEZ: And we were the -- we were the
subcontractor to the disabled veteran.
MS. ROBINSON: Yes.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. They -- so back then NISH
instructed the contracting officer, you can -- you
cannot exercise the first-year option and kick him
out. The contracting officer said, well, how do I do
it? They said, well, kick him out, don't exercise the
option, give him a bad rating, and then we --
MS. ROBINSON: And -- and David told them this,
right?
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. That's what I -- yeah,
that's what I think he did on a bunch of stuff, but I
just can't prove it.
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MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Because the customer won't admit
it sometimes.
MR. LOPEZ: Well, but we -- we have asked for the
FOIA.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: Which -- which --
MS. ROBINSON: But Dave is pretty good about not
writing anything down.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay. But --
MS. ROBINSON: He's pretty good about not leaving
any -- any -- and that -- I mean, eventually he will
be caught, but he's been pretty darn good in the
last -- you know, in the last bit of time in not
leaving his fingerprints on anything, and when things
come close, you'll find that he has -- he has
delegated the dirty work to a staff member --
MR. LOPEZ: Gotcha, gotcha. Gotcha.
MS. ROBINSON: -- you know, and so that's usually
how he operates, which is why I haven't been able to
nail him on a lot of things.
MR. LOPEZ: I understand. I understand. So how
are we going to handle the situation? I mean, you're
monitoring this thing that they're going to --
MS. ROBINSON: Two things. Your guy in
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Minneapolis, and I didn't call him back yet because
I wanted to talk to you first, is he the guy who's
going to kind of push your case forward?
MR. LOPEZ: Yes.
MS. ROBINSON: And, you know, how trustworthy is
he and, you know, talk to me a little bit.
MR. LOPEZ: He's good to go. He's a young --
young attorney. He's --
MS. ROBINSON: Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: He's a very discreet, prudent man.
That's why I chose him. He --
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. Very good. I just --
because -- a couple things. I think, you know, we
need to focus specifically on your stuff, but in
addition to your stuff, we need to blow the lid off
this other stuff so it can open the door up for you to
apply for some of these big, nice projects.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: Do you understand what I'm saying?
MR. LOPEZ: Sure, sure. I mean --
MS. ROBINSON: Because you can partner with
somebody and there's -- I mean, this is going to be
real money and real projects and real opportunity that
you guys could play in if they didn't have this silly
screening stuff that they've got going on.
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MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct. I mean, if the --
if the door opened to a semi-normal world, everybody
would be working hard and -- and we wouldn't have this
abrasive interaction with them.
MS. ROBINSON: All I'm trying to do is get it so
that the pool is wider than -- or bigger than two
CRPs.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: That's just not you; that's
everybody. I mean, because what you guys can do is,
you can partner with people who either have the
top-secret or -- you know what I mean?
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: Like CHM, whatever their name is,
they've got top-secret, don't they?
MR. LOPEZ: They do. They do. CH2M Hill.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, see, you
understand what I'm saying. And so we have to get the
system stuff straightened out so that you can at
least -- even when you're in the game -- well, we've
got two things. Even when you're in the game, they're
still managing to screw you, okay?
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: I mean, I'm putting it bluntly.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct.
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MS. ROBINSON: Bad manners. You're in a crash
wreck.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Even when you were in the game,
they're working ways around, figuring out how not to
give you the projects.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: And we have to -- you're the one
who's going to have to make a big deal of that, but as
you -- it's also a numbers game, and what I mean by
that is there's only so many times they can get away
with it. At some point it looks bad even to somebody
who doesn't know any of us.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: Do you understand? It's like,
okay, well, so these people aren't qualified for
anything now?
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: So, you know, that's -- that's
getting a little obvious now, don't you think?
MR. LOPEZ: Yes. Absolutely, absolutely.
MS. ROBINSON: I mean, you literally have not
gotten anything except for the door in Chicago, right?
MR. LOPEZ: What is that "door" that you're
talking about?
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MS. ROBINSON: Huh?
MR. LOPEZ: "The door." I --
MS. ROBINSON: I call it "the door." What I mean
by that is it's an abandoned -- you're cleaning off
the snow in front of a -- it's a GSA thing, isn't it?
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, yeah. Well, we couldn't even get
that because it didn't work out. You're right.
MS. ROBINSON: I thought you got that.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. No, we didn't.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, have you gotten anything
since you signed the agreement?
MR. LOPEZ: No. Zilch, zero.
MS. ROBINSON: And how many have you applied?
Well, I think I know most of them, but --
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah.
MS. ROBINSON: But just in round numbers, how
many have you applied for since then?
MR. LOPEZ: I would estimate around ten, ten
worthy -- worthy projects.
MS. ROBINSON: And in their opinion for just
various and sundry reasons you have not been qualified
for any of those ten?
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct.
MS. ROBINSON: That would be their argument.
MR. LOPEZ: Exactly, exactly.
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MS. ROBINSON: Okay. And in some instances were
there people who may have had certification and other
reasons, but they find a reason that you aren't going
to get it, right? That's basically --
MR. LOPEZ: Well, at the beginning remember with
that Fort Hood and with that Denver project, they just
didn't have a reason. You were part of that
debriefing. They just --
MS. ROBINSON: Oh, but when they don't have a
reason, then what do they do? They pull it off the --
that's the other thing they do, right, they pull it
off the procurement list?
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: It comes out of the program.
Nobody gets it. It comes out of the whole damn
program.
MR. LOPEZ: Exactly, exactly. But like the one
in Denver, the one where we debriefed and they just
couldn't explain it, remember?
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah.
MR. LOPEZ: John Scorsini was -- I think that
was one of the ones that he debriefed, and they
couldn't -- they couldn't explain it. They kept going
round, and they just couldn't explain it.
MS. ROBINSON: I've got to tell you one more
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thing because this person is out in your area and you
probably need to spend some time. I don't know her.
I have no trust because I don't know her, but she is
a -- she has a Ph.D. in education. Her name is M.J.
Willard. One guy tells me that she's just -- she's
accusing Peckham of being the next NCED and ReadyOne.
And by the way, ReadyOne and NCED, the institute tells
me they found some statistics to show that they
probably still aren't doing the right thing, and they
shared that with Bob and Dennis, and they aren't doing
anything about it.
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: I haven't made a big deal of it
yet because I just found out this week.
MR. LOPEZ: What is it they -- who is M.J. --
MS. ROBINSON: But -- huh?
MR. LOPEZ: Who is M.J. Willard? I mean, how
will I get ahold of her?
MS. ROBINSON: M.J. Willard is the CEO, executive
director, of -- I think she works out of California,
but the agency is actually located in Boston.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: But she works out of California.
She's got a lot of Congressional contacts. She -- she
is arguing -- she's pissed off because she didn't get
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a call center contract. She hires a lot of people
with disabilities, a lot of people on the ticket for
Social Security. They gave the project to Peckham.
It's a huge project. And she says that Peckham is
just like the people down in El Paso, the
NCED/ReadyOne people, they are not serving people
with disabilities, that NISH simply uses its insider
influence with the board and being on the board and
part of NCSE -- or NCWC and we give him whatever he
wants and we know and we've known for years that they
really aren't serving people with disabilities, that's
all a sham --
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: -- and that he's just getting all
the contracts. He is the program's number one -- I
think he's the number one source of revenue. I mean,
he's the highest CRP at this point.
MR. LOPEZ: Peckham.
MS. ROBINSON: In Michigan. She applied for this
call center contract. She didn't get it. They gave
it to Peckham instead of her.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: They told her that they gave it to
Peckham because that's what the customer wanted. I
guess she went to the customer, and the customer said,
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no, we told them we didn't care, we would take you
or them.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: So her argument -- sound familiar?
So her argument is, why do you guys keep giving these
contracts to Peckham when you know they aren't really
serving people with disabilities, here's my agency --
and I don't know that, you know, she's, you know, pure
as the snow or anything, but here's my agency who is
serving people with disabilities and you guys won't
give us a contract and we think it's wrong, and she's
going to -- she's going to show that we know that
Peckham is not serving people with disabilities.
She's put it on report to the commission. She's put
it on report to some Senators, some Congressmen.
This goes back about a year, but she brought it
all up again now because she didn't get this last
contract, and she's saying it's unfair, and she
appealed -- appealed it. She appealed it to Dennis.
He's going to, of course, sustain the appeal and not
overturn it, and she -- I told him not to meet with
her last week, but she decided in the middle of the
appeal process she was going to meet with Dennis.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And I said, Dennis, don't do that,
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because we don't meet with people in the middle of
the appeal process, just, you know, keep it fair.
Well, anyway, he met with her anyway in my absence. I
was out in Chicago getting my award.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And so now she's written Tina
Ballard directly, I think that came in yesterday,
where she said, you know, she's willing to take her
whole thing public because she believes that we are
simply turning a blind eye to and steadily awarding
work to Peckham when we know they're not serving
people with disabilities.
Her proof that they're not serving people with
disabilities is that -- and I don't think this is --
this is concrete proof, but it does raise a question,
is that, you know, she did all the research on his
contracts and hundreds of millions of dollars, and she
said he's only got 3 people in his workforce out of
1600 or 2,000 people that actually get Social Security
disability benefits and, you know, she may be -- if he
was truly serving people with disabilities, wouldn't
there be more cross-pollination between those who
get -- that's her major argument, but she's done a
bunch of statistical research on these projects and
all of that, and she claims that he's hiring illegal
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immigrants and not really people with disabilities,
and we keep holding him up as the -- you know, the
great -- the great person in the program, and that's
why -- and that the reason we give him all the
projects, both products and services, is because of
his inside track and because he represents a lot of
revenue to NISH in the -- in the fact that he's the
number one CRP. Now, that is Martin's boy.
MR. LOPEZ: There you go.
MS. ROBINSON: And, you know, Martin has --
Martin used to be in Northcentral. Martin has given
him a lot of work. Martin has made him who he is.
He's somewhere in Michigan. And she's not going to
let this die. I mean, they're going to tell her no.
Dennis is going to tell her no, and she's going to
keep going Congressional, and she wants to blow what
she thinks is the lid off an injustice because she
thinks that our number one CRP is not really serving
people with disabilities.
So she's coming, and she's coming strong, and
she's out in California, and I'm pretty sure she's in
touch with the Congressional people there in
California, but she's giving the commission and
everybody a chance to look into it and do something.
She made these accusations a year ago. Justice was
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investigating Peckham a year ago, but I never heard
whether they finished, what they found, what they
didn't find, based on some of these same
allegations --
MR. LOPEZ: I see.
MS. ROBINSON: -- that they're really not serving
people with disabilities. I told our people to go out
there and scrub them clean. I said, you know, go out
and look in all their files and see if they got the
proper documentation. Now, if they make up the files
and they lie, I mean, there's not much we can do about
that, but go look.
And then Bob and those guys -- because that's
their boy, he's part of the mafia. So they sent
Goli Trump. Legal advised Goli not to sign a
nondisclosure. Like she went out there and did a SWAT
team audit, and we -- John went on record as advising
her not to sign a nondisclosure.
Mitch says, you can come and you can audit us,
but whatever you find you can't tell anybody, and
you've got to sign a nondisclosure. We said,
bullshit, if you're out there violating the program
rules, we're not signing a nondisclosure because we're
going to turn you into the commission or anybody else
we need to turn you into. Well, Dennis, Dennis
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Fields, this is why I tell you he's just ridiculous,
he and Goli signed the damn thing or he later told
Goli to sign it.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, wow.
MS. ROBINSON: And I went and jumped on him feet
first and said, Dennis, why would you instruct her to
sign that and -- and if we find something we can't
tell anything? So now here the chickens have come
home to roost because here we are a year later where
this M.J. Willard is saying the same thing, she's
making the same accusations, and we went out there. I
don't know what we found, but whatever we found, we're
not able -- I mean, technically we're not able to
disclose it because she signed it against legal's
advice. And, I mean, I don't really care. I'm going
to disclose whatever, you know. Mitch knows it.
Now, in her letter that she wrote, she mentions
the Portco suit, she mentions GAO. She said, look,
you people, you know, you're just not right and this
whole process is not right and it's not transparent
and you guys are cutting me out of work and you're mad
because I a year ago said, you know, you're not doing
the right thing, I'm going to continue to say that,
and I'm going to keep going with this.
So she is on the rampage, and she is in your
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area, so my guess is she'll be contacting. Now,
David probably can give you a better scoop on her. I
don't know her, I've never met her, but I do know that
David could probably give you better because she's got
David's lawsuit all up in her letter of complaint and
in her appeal, so apparently she's talking to David, I
would think.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But that's somebody that's -- but
she's -- but she's yet another example of somebody
who's saying, you guys got all this insider trading
and favoritism going on and you're cutting me out of
the -- out of the process by doing it.
MR. LOPEZ: I see.
MS. ROBINSON: And she's going to keep going, and
she's pretty well connected with some political types,
because the last time she did it a year ago Justice --
I mean, she did trigger a Justice investigation of
Peckham, at which time Mitch called me, threatened me.
He and Martin ganged up on me.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh.
MS. ROBINSON: And it was -- it was interesting,
and I said, I had no idea. He thought I -- he thought
I told Justice, because it was right after the board
meeting when I told them, you know, the jig was up on
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this conflict of interest and they were going to have
to do business differently, and then I guess like
three days later Justice was knocking on his door, so
he thought -- you know, I had nothing to do with it,
you know, but -- but he thought -- and I'd tell you if
I did. I mean, I had absolutely nothing to do with
it. But I think it was actually -- we found out later
it was actually triggered by this M.J. Willard, who
must have some pretty good contacts with Senators and
Congressmen because they were on it pretty quick.
Now, I don't know what they found. I don't know
if they settled. I don't know if they're finished. I
don't know if they let it go. You know, a Justice
investigation can go so slow sometimes.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: So I don't know. But that's a
problem that's -- that's in the works, but it's yet
another example of somebody saying, the system is not
fair and let me show you and prove to you why.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: And Bob and Dennis -- she said in
her letter, she said, you, Dennis Fields, are
responsible for the oversight of this process and
fairness and you're turning your head and you're part
of the problem.
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MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: So she's pretty strong on where
she's coming from. I don't know if she's trying to
solicit other CRPs who -- who she feels have been
wronged. You know, I don't know.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: But that name you should put in
the back of your head. The other one that's
protesting pretty big is TRDI. I guess there's --
they deal -- like a whole bunch of unfair stuff is
going on with them as well, and he's probably just
getting some transference, quite frankly, because he's
Hispanic.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: I'm not trying to be funny, but
I'm pretty sure that's what's going on, because Dennis
and Sally and those guys are really tough on them.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: There's a -- there's a black CRP
up in Alaska. In fact, they kicked their -- Melphine
used to be a board member, she worked for BP, and they
kicked her off because she was trying to get these
guys to do the right thing, and so --
MR. LOPEZ: Kicked her off the board?
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board.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, okay.
MS. ROBINSON: Because she came down hard on Bob
Chamberlin and Dennis and some of the rest of them
and Elizabeth, and, you know, she pretty much said,
stop the bullshit, you guys.
MR. LOPEZ: Is she still -- is she still CEO of
her CRP?
MS. ROBINSON: No, she wasn't the CEO. She
was -- she wasn't -- it's her family. It's her father
who's ex-military --
MR. LOPEZ: I see.
MS. ROBINSON: -- who got all the projects on his
own, not through NISH, but put them in the program.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: So she had a family connection,
and they started coming down hard on her family
because they were mad with her. You know, that's how
those boys -- these boys do.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: And so they kicked her off. I
mean, she resigned, but they -- they sort of -- you
know, they made it so she was going to have to.
MR. LOPEZ: What is her name again?
MS. ROBINSON: Melphine Evans.
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MR. LOPEZ: What is the -- what is the field?
MS. ROBINSON: The CRP up in Alaska?
MR. LOPEZ: Uh-huh.
MS. ROBINSON: I don't know it. I'll have to
find that out. I'll have to find that out.
MR. LOPEZ: Melphine Evans.
MS. ROBINSON: Anyway, she's out in -- she lives
out in California.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, okay.
MS. ROBINSON: She was CFO for BP.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: She's no longer with BP right now,
but she's very smart and very knowledgeable about the
system, knows that these boys are playing this game.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: But when you said something about
Alaska, I just want you to know there is a CRP up
there that they -- and Bob has been going to Alaska a
lot lately because his daughter is there.
MR. LOPEZ: Yes, I know -- I've known about that.
Do you think I didn't make the connection?
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah. That's why he's been there
all the time. It's three trips to Alaska for him.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But he's been there a lot lately.
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But so now you're applying for something in Alaska?
MR. LOPEZ: We applied, but -- but it went off
the radar. It came -- the explanation was the
customer decided to -- to find another avenue for
acquisition, however we will be getting in touch with
you soon.
MS. ROBINSON: When did it go off the radar?
MR. LOPEZ: Two weeks ago. Two, three weeks ago.
MS. ROBINSON: You're kidding, right?
MR. LOPEZ: No. I'm serious.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, let's see. Bob was on an
unexpected vacation for a couple weeks, and I want to
say -- was it two weeks ago?
MR. LOPEZ: Two weeks.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, he was gone when I was gone.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, do you have enough contacts
to know if he has been dabbling in that or enough for
you, or what?
MR. LOPEZ: Not at the moment, but I would only
imagine. I mean, the honest truth is I've been trying
to call the contracting officer, to no avail.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, I might be able to help you
on that one by getting some inside information from
Melphine through her sister, you know, because they're
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up there, they're doing business up there.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: Not all -- not all AbilityOne
stuff, and they have some AbilityOne stuff too.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: But limited.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: But they pretty much know what's
going on up there.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: That's for sure. And where is the
project?
MR. LOPEZ: Anchorage. Elmendorf. It's the
Elmendorf Joint Base.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. I wrote that down. Okay.
I'll find out what they know about that --
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: -- just in a general -- I won't
tell them -- mention your name or anything. I'll just
find out.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, I'm going to check Bob's
calendar too because I'm pretty sure -- I don't know
where he went on vacation, but I thought he went to
his daughter's.
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MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, that's where he went. I know
for a fact.
MS. ROBINSON: But that's about the timing,
though, isn't it?
MR. LOPEZ: Yes, it is.
MS. ROBINSON: Is that about the time that it
came off or --
MR. LOPEZ: Shortly thereafter, shortly
thereafter.
MS. ROBINSON: That's my point.
MR. LOPEZ: Yep.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. All right. All right.
MR. LOPEZ: All right.
MS. ROBINSON: But he's usually not -- he's not
that transparent. He's not going to -- he's another
one. He's like Dave Dubinsky. They don't leave
footprints.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: So he wouldn't do it. I mean, he
wouldn't do it in a way that we could trace it back to
him. He's pretty good like that.
MR. LOPEZ: My friends -- my friends at the DEA
said something interesting.
MS. ROBINSON: What did they say?
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criminal act, the perpetrator leaves at least nine
traces that he is not aware of leaving, at least nine.
MS. ROBINSON: That's probably true, and the
other side of it is the people we're working with are
not the brightest people that ever walked the face of
the earth. So, you know, I think we give them more
credit sometimes than they deserve, but --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Because they're not very bright.
But, okay, I'll look into that, and then there --
okay. So I'll look into your projects. I'm going to
call Dan Cragg back on Monday, and he's going to lay
out for me all of these.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: And I think, you know, you've got
to start to push a little bit to say, look, guys, it's
retaliation. I wouldn't necessarily say they breached
the contract. By the way, did you ever get your
software?
MR. LOPEZ: We're working on it, but they're
making it difficult.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: We're working on it.
MS. ROBINSON: So I wouldn't say they breached
the contract, I would -- I mean, the settlement
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agreement. You could say that.
MR. LOPEZ: Um-hmm.
MS. ROBINSON: I would just say, no, it's
retaliation.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: If you haven't -- ever since you
filed and you thought you -- you thought you were
setting things aside, I would use that as a timeline.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: But that once they thought that,
you know, they had you under an agreement, silence
agreement, they haven't done anything since.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: They're just retaliating against
you.
MR. LOPEZ: Absolutely, absolutely.
MS. ROBINSON: So, I mean, I think that's --
that's the -- you know, the avenue you're going to
have to go, but let's see where -- well, you don't
have anything else in the hopper, right? Okay.
Alaska is gone. So is there anything that's active,
Ruben, that we could actually get you?
MR. LOPEZ: Nothing, nothing. I mean, Puerto
Rico is the latest thing that they have denied us, and
they have nothing.
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MS. ROBINSON: You haven't been denied yet, but
the only thing that's standing between that is me --
MR. LOPEZ: That's right.
MS. ROBINSON: -- and needing the paperwork.
MR. LOPEZ: That's right.
MS. ROBINSON: Now, let me ask you, on that one
did you guys put in a good proposal and you feel
pretty good about it?
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, we feel -- we feel good. I
mean, if it were a regular contracting officer who was
looking at it, we would feel -- we would feel fine.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. Now, is it possible that
there is an agency that's right there on the island
that applied?
MR. LOPEZ: Well, absolutely, absolutely. But is
it possible there's an agency with better past
performance than us? No. Or better ability to
execute projects?
MS. ROBINSON: So here's what I'm asking you.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Do you think they -- do you think
they gave it to the incumbent? Is the incumbent an
AbilityOne person, organization?
MR. LOPEZ: I -- I wouldn't know because I don't
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know the name.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. Well, I'll find that out.
I'll find that out over the weekend. So let's talk
again on Monday, but I'll find that out because
they're going to send me all the paperwork.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: So I may have some questions as
I read that over the weekend, and if I do, I'll call
you.
MR. LOPEZ: Please call me anytime.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. All right. Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: Have a wonderful evening.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. You too.
MR. LOPEZ: Thank you.
MS. ROBINSON: All right. Bye-bye.
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MS. ROBINSON: Hello?
MR. LOPEZ: Jean, how are you? This is Ruben.
MS. ROBINSON: I'm good. How you doing?
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, pretty good. It's a little late
for you.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah. That's why I had to step
out. I had to lay down with the little one.
MR. LOPEZ: Sorry.
MS. ROBINSON: She went late last night.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh.
MS. ROBINSON: Tomorrow is our early day.
Tomorrow is our 5:30 a.m. day.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, no.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, anyway, I
want to -- I want to find out when you -- it's
interesting. Did you do any research?
MR. LOPEZ: Yes. Yes, I did.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: It's Corporate Source and YAI.
They're one and the same, aren't they?
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, they're -- well, no.
They're a subsidiary.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: Apparently, YAI is the parent, I
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guess, and Corporate Source, you know, as far as I
know. I haven't -- haven't done any research, but
that's what I was told, so --
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. No. When you look at them on
the -- when you Google them, they're -- they appear at
times together. YAI --
MS. ROBINSON: Is YAI a for-profit or
not-for-profit?
MR. LOPEZ: It seems to be a, as far as I
understand, for-profit, but it's heavily involved in
people with disabilities.
MS. ROBINSON: Did you get your notice yet that
you didn't get it?
MR. LOPEZ: Not yet, no.
MS. ROBINSON: Oh. It should be coming any day.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay. Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: Any day, any day. So --
MR. LOPEZ: Well, we -- we sort of know what the
answer will be.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, yeah. That's true. That's
very true.
MR. LOPEZ: I mean --
MS. ROBINSON: Unfortunately.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. We have an issue here with the
San Jose Peckham building. I don't know if you know
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about it or if you heard.
MS. ROBINSON: No, but I had a call in to Rick to
find out about the Alaska thing.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: And he did call me back, but I
have not spoken to him yet.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, I see.
MS. ROBINSON: I'll find that out tomorrow.
MR. LOPEZ: And the --
MS. ROBINSON: More so tomorrow.
MR. LOPEZ: The NGA project out of Spring Hill,
Virginia, is their headquarters.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah.
MR. LOPEZ: National Geospatial Agency.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, yeah.
MR. LOPEZ: That went missing. It just fell off
the radar, and no one -- no one knows why.
MS. ROBINSON: Did you apply for it?
MR. LOPEZ: Well, we were -- yes, we were going
to present, and we were ready to present. We had --
we were about to buy the tickets and --
MS. ROBINSON: You know, I wrote that down that
I'm supposed to be checking on both of those. I've
got calls into both Rick, who did call me back.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah.
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MS. ROBINSON: And Joe -- and Joe did not.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. Pagliarulo.
MS. ROBINSON: I think he's battling.
MR. LOPEZ: The last name is Pagliarulo,
Pagliarulo, in your office.
MS. ROBINSON: Joe, uh-huh, uh-huh.
MR. LOPEZ: Yes. He's the one that keeps --
keeps looking --
MS. ROBINSON: That's Martin's boy.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. Every time I ask him, he looks
up at the ceiling, to check, make sure the sky is
still blue.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, that's Martin.
MR. LOPEZ: Poor boy. I feel bad for this guy.
I mean, he feels very uncomfortable.
MS. ROBINSON: I don't feel bad for any of these
people, but, okay, you can feel bad for them.
MR. LOPEZ: I mean, they are --
MS. ROBINSON: But the question I have for you,
though --
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah.
MS. ROBINSON: -- is, you've got enough stuff now
that it's time for the agents who have gone silent, or
have they just given up on it and they're on to
different things, you know? The OIG guys need to rear
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their head.
MR. LOPEZ: Well, that may be -- that may be
possible. That may be possible and --
MS. ROBINSON: I mean, they really need to deal
with these conflicts because you're talking about a
lot of money here.
MR. LOPEZ: Of course.
MS. ROBINSON: A lot of big projects.
MR. LOPEZ: Of course. Yeah, you know, it's
true, it's true. It becomes -- it's now absurd.
MS. ROBINSON: Now, what's nice, though, is that,
you know, when they backed off like this, they just
get stupid and do stupider stuff.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And there's more stuff, you know.
MR. LOPEZ: Right. Yeah. I mean, I know -- I
know that you are a woman of -- that reads the Good
Book, and I -- you know what I've been thinking about,
reflecting recently, and I can't get it out of my
mind, that part where the good Lord said, everything
that is done in darkness will be seen in the daylight,
and everything that's whispered in secret will be
preached from the housetops.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, yeah. That's true.
MR. LOPEZ: I can't get it out of my mind.
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MS. ROBINSON: I know. Well, but -- but tell --
tell the guy upstairs. I keep telling him, you're
taking a little long on this, a little long on this
one, a little long on this one.
MR. LOPEZ: It's true. It's true.
MS. ROBINSON: But like I said, the more -- you
know, the more you back off of these folks, the
crazier they get, so it's not all bad.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, yeah. Well, I --
MS. ROBINSON: They were somewhat careful for a
while, but now they've gone back to their old crazy
ways.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's no way
to overcome greed and -- and a, what do you call it,
culture of lying when you're used to it for so many
years. You can't change overnight. You just can't.
MS. ROBINSON: Uh-huh, uh-huh. Well, John is
resigning today. There's some letter that he gave. I
said, well, if you're going to leave, at least
write -- write a letter, you know --
MR. LOPEZ: John whom?
MS. ROBINSON: -- that will help out -- that will
help out those that are here --
MR. LOPEZ: John whom?
MS. ROBINSON: -- you know.
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MR. LOPEZ: John whom?
MS. ROBINSON: John Huggins, my -- my guy, my
guy.
MR. LOPEZ: John Huggins.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah.
MR. LOPEZ: He's resigning.
MS. ROBINSON: Yes.
MR. LOPEZ: Why?
MS. ROBINSON: He said he's had enough, he's had
enough.
MR. LOPEZ: You're kidding me. Jean, is it
because he sees the corruption?
MS. ROBINSON: You'll have to ask him that. I --
it could be. It's partially that. You know, I don't
know. They -- they never liked him, and, you know, he
asked the wrong questions, and -- and, you know, he's
just tired of their craziness, and -- you know, but
it's also just turned him into a completely different
person, you know. And I told him, I said, John, I
said, you know, your work is not that great, but I --
you know, I wouldn't say anything.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But he and Bob just don't see eye
to eye. I said, but, you know, you got to make up
what you want to do because you're going to destroy
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your career, but -- so he just decided, you know,
he's had enough. So he wrote a letter. I haven't
read it yet. In fact, I need to download it. He sent
it to me tonight, that he's going to give to Bob, I
think, tomorrow or the next day. But, you know, John
is an interesting -- you know, he's an interesting
study as well.
MR. LOPEZ: Yes.
MS. ROBINSON: He's kind of like your Scorsini
guy.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah.
MS. ROBINSON: You just don't know what side
they're playing on and they try so hard to belong --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: -- that, you know, I couldn't
trust the guy anymore. I told you -- I think I told
you I was to the point where I couldn't trust him, you
know.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct.
MS. ROBINSON: And I was like, okay, they've won
because they've managed to make -- you know, to drive
a wedge --
MR. LOPEZ: Between.
MS. ROBINSON: -- between you and I and Omar and,
you know, all of our team. You're drinking the
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Kool-Aid, man. Don't drink the Kool-Aid.
MR. LOPEZ: Jonestown all over again.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah. Like don't drink the
Kool-Aid and, man, don't do me that way. You know,
there's a few little things that -- and Dennis is
really good at co-opting people. I have to give him
credit. They're masterminds at this stuff, man.
They're really good at what they do.
MR. LOPEZ: You did mention one day that even
intelligent people have been bamboozled by these
characters.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it doesn't
last long. In other words, what Dennis is good at
doing is making people think that he's, you know, just
being led by Bob and that he's not part of the
corruption, etcetera, and then you find out he's like
the number one guy. You know what I mean --
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: -- like he's just as smart and all
that. But before he does that, to keep people off of
his trail, like he picked John -- he handpicked John
to do some assignments because he knew if he picked
me -- and I didn't mind that. I mean, it wasn't an
ego thing. I've got enough work to do. That wasn't
the issue. But I knew -- I knew John was being set
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up, but John didn't know he was being set up, and,
you know, it's hard to tell people. It's like his ego
was so into being picked. I'm like, they know you
don't know this stuff, man, they know they can run it
by you.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: They can get it by you. I mean,
they had like -- like on the alternate resolution
stuff, they had John help write that.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And I said -- you know, because
they wanted the standard, and then I jumped in at the
end and kind of said, no, no, no, you guys got to
change it this way and that way and whatever, and they
weren't happy about it. So right now they're just
trying to get what they can get out of him so that
they can say legal signed off on it, you know.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But what can you say?
MR. LOPEZ: Do you think John figured it out and
that's why he's --
MS. ROBINSON: No, no.
MR. LOPEZ: No? Not yet, huh?
MS. ROBINSON: I mean, yeah, John knows they're
not right. I mean, he knows they're -- yeah, he knows
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they're corrupt. I mean, you know, we know that from
when we have to sit and redo or ask them questions or
whatever. I mean, no, he's not -- you know, he's not
stupid. Yeah, that part he's figured out, but -- you
know, and he knows they say one thing and do -- do
just the opposite, yeah. No. He's got -- he's got
that much figured out --
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: -- with no question. The question
is what's he going to put in his letter that will
expose that.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct.
MS. ROBINSON: And so he wasn't going to do a
letter, and I said, man, at least -- you know, come
on, you're leaving, at least -- you know, I don't care
if you're mad at me about this or that, I said, but if
you're going to do a -- the least you could do is
leave us a letter that, you know, kind of puts some
stuff out there.
MR. LOPEZ: Right. For --
MS. ROBINSON: For the record, for the record
and for those of us who are left behind.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct, who have to deal
with this corruption.
MS. ROBINSON: There you go. That's what I told
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him. I said, that's the least you can do, man.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: So, you know, three days went by,
he didn't do anything, and then I guess Omar must have
said, yeah, man, you know, she's right, you could at
least do that, and so he finally -- and I haven't seen
what the letter is, but let's see if we can -- let me
grab it real quick, because I've got to figure out --
figure out what my kid is wearing to school tomorrow.
We're not -- because tomorrow, like I said, is our
crack-of-dawn day. Okay. She can wear these. I've
got to get her -- got a bunch of stuff balled up here.
You can't -- the weather keeps changing, like -- you
know, I don't know. We're in between sort of the
summer and the winter here -- I mean, and the fall.
MR. LOPEZ: Well, you know, we do --
MS. ROBINSON: You send them to school, and then,
you know, she leaves her jacket, she leaves her
sweatshirt, but when she leaves in the morning, she
needs all that stuff on.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right. Well, we --
MS. ROBINSON: But by the time she comes back,
you know, she doesn't, so --
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. We do --
MS. ROBINSON: Anyway, I'm walking to get the --
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MR. LOPEZ: No, no problem.
MS. ROBINSON: I'm walking to get the letter.
MR. LOPEZ: You know, we work at Peterson Air
Force Base. They're in Colorado, and the floods have
just destroyed Cheyenne Mountain.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, I thought about Scorsini. I
actually thought about calling him to see how he
survived it, because -- but is it in his area at all?
MR. LOPEZ: No.
MS. ROBINSON: He's not in that area, right?
MR. LOPEZ: Not in his area, no.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: No, no. We're good.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. That's good. Hold on.
MR. LOPEZ: Well, maybe John can apply for that
position now.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah. Right. I'm crazy, but I
ain't that crazy.
MR. LOPEZ: You'd enjoy that psychological study.
That would be a whole -- a whole endeavor, a lifetime
endeavor.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, and the reason I didn't jump
to read John's letter because, I said, man, before you
send the letter, you know, let me read it --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
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MS. ROBINSON: -- because you get so emotional,
and so -- so he sends it to my NISH e-mail address.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, wow.
MS. ROBINSON: So, yeah, he doesn't want any --
he obviously doesn't want any changes, but let's see.
He said it was a magnus opum -- opus, and then we were
laughing about it, but -- hold on. I'm looking. I'm
looking.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. Take your time.
MS. ROBINSON: (Unintelligible.)
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, wow.
MS. ROBINSON: There's a managing partner/general
counsel national thing, and they're holding -- this is
Congressional Black Caucus week.
MR. LOPEZ: I see.
MS. ROBINSON: And they're -- but they're holding
this summit between national general counsel and
managing partners at various firms, and it's on the
19th. No. Hold on. Where did I put it? Oh, I'm
looking in the wrong e-mail. I've got to look in
NISH. Hold on. Which is, you know, he wanted -- I
mean --
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: -- there's no point in passing it
by me.
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MR. LOPEZ: They'll see it.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, of course. I mean, he knows
they check all our e-mail.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: That's the kind of stuff that just
annoys me, you know.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Can't you be a little brighter?
But, you know, hold on. I've got to get my little
NISH password in. Let's see what this letter looks
like. Okay. Chamberlin letter. "Jean, Please see
attached below. Note that I want to send to Bob
Chamberlin tomorrow morning. Thanks." Okay.
MR. LOPEZ: Well, he's already sent it.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, that's the kind of
carelessness, though, that was killing us.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Do you know what I mean?
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
MS. ROBINSON: Give them the bullet. And he
sends it from his gmail.
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: But he sends it to my NISH
account.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh, beautiful.
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MS. ROBINSON: I mean, it just -- so now, you
know, I don't want to have any trails on it, you know.
Okay. "Dear Bob, After much thought and reflection, I
have concluded that I can no longer serve as counsel
to SourceAmerica. As a result, I hereby tender my
resignation as associate general counsel effective
September 30th. Upon joining SourceAmerica in
January" -- oh, hold on -- "in January of 2012, I
committed myself" --
MR. LOPEZ: I hear my baby. One second. One
second.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay. Go ahead, go ahead.
MR. LOPEZ: Didn't want to go to bed, but they
have school tomorrow early.
MS. ROBINSON: Yes. That's why I'm reading
softly.
MR. LOPEZ: Sorry. Go ahead.
MS. ROBINSON: I understand that.
"Upon joining SourceAmerica in January of 2012,
I committed myself to my responsibilities and
endeavored to work with all individuals across all
functions in support of the legal department." So,
no, for the -- "I approached my responsibilities with
enthusiasm and dedication to the organization's stated
mission of creating employment opportunities for
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people with significant disabilities. Within a short
time, however, I learned that protecting the
privileged few within positions of leadership, even
when such protection has the potential to discredit
the organization and expose it to risk and liability,
and the use of personal attacks against individuals
who are disfavored are not only quotidian" -- that's
the other thing he likes to do. He likes to use words
to show he's a smart guy.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Instead of just saying everyday
practices, but he said "quotidian."
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But are encouraged. "The manner
in which the legal department's work is viewed has
also contributed to my decision to resign. I have
spoken personally to Jean Robinson, general counsel,
regarding my dissatisfaction with the inefficiencies
within the legal department." Oh, good, he kind of
gets me there. "I suggest that you speak with Jean
directly regarding the concerns that I have expressed
to her relative to the legal department. I have
directed" -- I like his loyalty. "I have directed
this letter to you personally because of your position
as president and CEO of this organization and the role
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that you have played both directly and indirectly in
my decision to resign. Your seeming" -- "your seeming
reluctance" -- let's see. "Your seeming reluctance to
reinforce among your staff the need for cooperation
and the importance of entrusting to the legal
department the responsibility for all things legal has
placed me in an untenable position and rendered me
unable to represent the corporation effectively.
Stated simply, Bob, the culture of distrust and
unwillingness among your staff and you to engage us at
the appropriate time, if at all, and present the facts
to us when issues arise is not only frustrating, it
impairs our ability to function effectively in our
legal" -- "in our role as legal counsel." He's got a
bunch of footnotes here, but I'll have to go back and
read those.
MR. LOPEZ: He's right.
MS. ROBINSON: That's been a problem with him.
He can't just write a -- "I hope that you will discuss
the matter of my resignation with Jean Robinson and
members of the board of directors. Should you wish to
discuss the matter with me personally, you may reach
me at 4561. All my regards." Oh, that doesn't help
us any.
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
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MS. ROBINSON: That letter doesn't help us any.
Let me -- let's see what his -- let me see what the
footnotes are. Maybe they're better.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: But if it's in a footnote, I mean,
how helpful is that?
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah. See what I mean?
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. It's half-baked.
MS. ROBINSON: "Examples of the matters to which
I refer to as follows: The legal department
investigation." This guy, his ego is just incredible.
"Examples of the matters to which I refer as follows:
The legal department investigation of Stephanie Capps,
director of human resources, in a complaint made by a
former employee. The former employee alleged, among
other things, that Ms. Capps was involved in a sexual
relationship with Joe Beltran, a former employee.
Omar Perez and I" conducted -- no, "concluded our
investigation over a year ago and based on our
findings recommended, among other things, that
Ms. Capps receive a letter of reprimand. To the best
of my knowledge, no such letter has ever been issued.
Moreover, I understand now that after Ms. Capps'
appeal of our recommended discipline directly to you,
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you have taken the position that no such letter will
be issued."
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: Ms. Capps' behavior was raised by
opposing counsel, but he wasn't there, so -- Paula
Scanlon's. Okay. So the stuff that he has in the
footnotes is designed to help not me or not Omar or
not anybody. "Numerous discussions from Dennis Fields
regarding Matt Bates, VP of human resources, and his
lack of basic knowledge with regard to human
resources, and investigation of routine employee
complaints, Paula Scanlon's purchase of the domain
name."
Let me see what he says about Goli Trump. Yeah,
he doesn't have anything in here about the real
issues, I mean, you know, the real corruption or
anything. Let's see what he's got.
"In Goli Trump's visit to Petco in June of 2012
and her instruction to execute a nondisclosure in
favor of Petco and against SourceAmerica's corporate
interests notwithstanding my instructions to her.
SourceAmerica is at risk due to B-1 allocation to deal
with the terms of" -- this letter just proves exactly
that he doesn't really know what -- you know, it's
going to make Bob's point, but let's see.
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"In May of last year, approximately four months
into my tenure, I became the target of such malicious
attacks by, of all people, you. As you will recall,
you mentioned to Jean Robinson, general counsel, that
the manner in which I walked seemed aggressive and the
way in which I took notes during your expanded staff
meeting appeared threatening. You also expressed to
me directly at one of your meetings that I have had
with you personally during my 18 months your
disapproval of my body language at an expanded staff
meeting because it suggested ambivalence. I must
admit both to this day I cannot understand the
(unintelligible) of your comment. The last thing, I
was informed by Dennis Fields that (unintelligible)
and that my relationship with Mr. Perry renders" --
well, so far I haven't come across anything that's
worth talking about.
MR. LOPEZ: Right. Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: The investigation wrap-up of Jeff
Fountain's ethics complaint for retaliation
(unintelligible). One example of (unintelligible) --
yeah, I don't -- I don't see anything there that would
cause Bob any heartburn or cause him any conflict.
(Unintelligible) involved the discipline -- for
example, he doesn't mention anything about you guys,
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Portco, the major -- what I'm calling the major
issues, the GAO.
MR. LOPEZ: Nothing. Nothing, huh?
MS. ROBINSON: No. It's all little -- little
bullshit.
MR. LOPEZ: Has he told you personally that he
sees that this is not a -- that they're not doing what
is correct about ours, Bona Fide's?
MS. ROBINSON: I wouldn't trust this guy any
further than I can see him. (Unintelligible.) Nah,
it's all -- yeah, I don't -- I don't see any --
anything here worth -- no, that would be useful in the
bigger scheme of things.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: In the real juice.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, yeah. No.
(Unintelligible). "I have spoken personally to Jean
Robinson, general counsel, regarding my
dissatisfaction with the inefficiencies within the
legal department. I suggest that you speak with Jean
directly with" -- that's kind of a copping out --
"regarding the things that I expressed to her relative
to the legal department." And that's actually a hit
at me, which I will tell him.
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MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: (Unintelligible). Okay. Well,
I'm his direct supervisor, so he should be resigning
to me, and if he really wasn't going to do anything to
Bob -- there's nothing in here that would be
problematic to Bob. I mean, (unintelligible)
employee, you know, a little crazy stuff, but nothing
of substance.
MR. LOPEZ: Of substance.
MS. ROBINSON: Huh-uh.
MR. LOPEZ: So he's not coming back, is he?
MS. ROBINSON: So the question -- well, no. He's
coming back. I mean, this is for September 30th, but
what he doesn't know is the minute he gives this to
Bob, they're going to put him out the door.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: They're going to say, here, here's
your two weeks, we don't need this guy around.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: But I will deal with him tomorrow
morning. I'll say, John, so what are you trying to
do, slam me on your way out, man?
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: You know, but -- and it's -- and
it's in there now. In other words, he's already sent
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it to me, so any changes now will look as if --
MR. LOPEZ: You guys discussed it.
MS. ROBINSON: You know what I mean?
MR. LOPEZ: Sure, that you guys discussed it and
opted for changes.
MS. ROBINSON: I don't care what he does. He can
do -- he can do whatever he wants to.
MR. LOPEZ: Right. Yeah, it's too late.
MS. ROBINSON: But, you know, what annoys me in
this, Ruben, is that the only thing that's been
standing between him and the door for the last year is
me.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: You know, I mean, I told you way
back around Christmastime when Bob ordered me fire the
guy immediately.
MR. LOPEZ: I remember that. I do.
MS. ROBINSON: You know, and the major issues
around PRIDE, around, you know, the things that are
actionable legal -- legally in terms of showing the
steering of contracts and that kind of stuff, why
wouldn't he mention that?
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: He didn't have any of that in
there. So maybe he doesn't get it. I don't know.
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Maybe he doesn't see the issues. I don't know, you
know.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah. I would -- that's what I
think. He probably doesn't see through it, but --
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, could be, could be.
MR. LOPEZ: But, then again, he's just been there
for what, a year, a year and a half?
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah, yeah, but he's been involved
in some major kind of stuff. I mean, you know, he's
talked -- you know, I mean, he's been involved with
Carlos and the OIG investigation, you know what I
mean, enough for him to see what the issues are.
I mean, why wouldn't he mention this very last
big conflict of interest where they have him working
on this whole e-waste where Jim Gibbons where said all
the right things, but when these guys are starting
this 7-million-dollar project and voting the deficit
budget so they can give the stuff to themselves
without even a business plan? You know, there's a lot
of legal kind of stuff that -- that --
MR. LOPEZ: He could have spoken to.
MS. ROBINSON: No, but I mean major stuff. I
mean, or he could have just spoken to the fact that
he's been involved in monitoring your stuff, Portco's
stuff, and other CRPs on the allocation process and
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crafting letters back. I guess he doesn't -- I guess
he doesn't agree.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah.
MS. ROBINSON: I guess he thinks -- you know,
because like, for example, on this last one, he was
like, well, you know, I just don't think that Bona
Fide should have gotten it because their proposal was
really bad, you know. So they -- they co-opted him on
some stuff.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And he just can't -- he isn't
bright enough to -- to see it, you know.
MR. LOPEZ: Right, right.
MS. ROBINSON: I'm not saying that everything you
do or everything I do is right. I'm just saying to
you that, you know, he sort of doesn't see the forest
for the trees or however that saying goes.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct, correct. No.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah. I mean, you might as well
just -- and he took all weekend to write that.
MR. LOPEZ: Wow.
MS. ROBINSON: You know, and that would have been
my big issue with him is that, you know, he's turned
in some stuff that just has been shoddy work, and what
has been bad for me is that it's allowed some of the
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injustices to continue. For example, when they're
targeting employees who are bringing up stuff or
whatever and they put him on the investigation, just
like a couple times, you know, I entrusted the
monitoring, for example --
MR. LOPEZ: Yes.
MS. ROBINSON: -- of your allocations and stuff.
I mean, that's -- I can't do them all, you know.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: And, you know, he wasn't able to
see or ask the right pointed questions or anything,
you know.
MR. LOPEZ: Correct.
MS. ROBINSON: So he just doesn't -- yeah. I
don't know. But it is what it is, and, you know, that
won't be no -- no great loss to me. It will just be
one less -- one less person they can use to, you know,
try drive me up a tree.
MR. LOPEZ: I know. I know. I know.
MS. ROBINSON: Yeah.
MR. LOPEZ: Well, maybe with any degree of
success you can find someone that will be honest. I
hope.
MS. ROBINSON: Well, someone -- you know what
would be nice is that -- you know, I'm figuring --
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okay, let me just tell you how this works. I have a
contract, and the way it generally works, and they've
already started it, is I think my contract has a
three-month notice that they're not -- my contract
ends at the end of the year.
MR. LOPEZ: Oh-oh.
MS. ROBINSON: Okay?
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: So -- so they need to give me
notice by October.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: And knowing John, I mean, this may
even be part of his -- because, you know, he may be
trying to actually help them. But in any event, they
have to give me notice by October, and Dennis is
starting his, what's the word I'm looking for,
distancing.
MR. LOPEZ: Yes.
MS. ROBINSON: He can't look me in the face. You
know, he can't -- you know, that kind of stuff.
MR. LOPEZ: Yeah, body language.
MS. ROBINSON: And they're trying to get out
all the -- he and Martin -- and Martin comes and sits
and looks at me, you know, because he can't -- have
they told me yet, have they told me yet. So they've
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got to give me written notice by October 1.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: And so they'll do that. I mean,
they'll do that and say they're not renewing.
MR. LOPEZ: Okay.
MS. ROBINSON: And we'll go from there.
MR. LOPEZ: Right.
MS. ROBINSON: And so John is just trying to get
out, I think, prior to that. He knows that -- you
know, they weren't able to co-opt him enough or when
he was -- when he was honest and when he -- you know,
when he first started, he could see the nonsense, and
what he couldn't see, Carlos and Valerie and those
guys could see it much quicker and point it out to
him. You know, then he got it. I mean, he got, for
example, that we drafted -- we spent three or four
days drafting a letter that Bob should have sent to
PRIDE so that they didn't get this last big project,
you know, because they should have been out of the
game. We should have been recommending that they go
out of the game.
MR. LOPEZ: Sure.
MS. ROBINSON: And --
MR. LOPEZ: You mean out of the program.
MS. ROBINSON: And he knows -- yeah, yeah. Oh,
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absolutely. We should have been recommending that.
But that's why I said that the bottomline is that, you
know, I don't know if these guys just don't believe
us. When I say "these guys," I mean the OIG agents
just don't believe us, or if we did our work so well
that they have confidence, I mean, you know, that
everything is cool.
Now, they know that we settled with you, and I
guess they're just waiting to see if we're going to
abide or if -- or if your claims of, you know,
retaliation or the fact that you haven't gotten
anything sent are really real or are we -- you know
what happens is, it's so incredulous and it's so
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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER
STATE OF MINNESOTA
COUNTY OF SCOTT
Be it known that I transcribed the foregoing four
audio recordings from audio links e-mailed to me by
Daniel Cragg, Attorney;
That the foregoing transcript is a true and
correct transcript done to the best of my ability and
subject to the provisions of the "Notes" listed on
page 2 of this transcript;
That I am not related to nor an employee of any
of the parties hereto, nor a relative or employee of
any party or counsel employed by the parties hereto,
nor interested in the outcome of any action related
hereto.
WITNESS MY HAND AND SEAL this 26th day of
September 2013.
_____________________________
Rhonda OlynykNotary Public, Scott County
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caveat [1] - 48:2ceiling [1] - 118:11cell [1] - 5:7center [2] - 97:1,97:20CEO [4] - 96:19,106:7, 106:9, 131:25certain [2] - 52:21,52:22certainly [3] - 34:15,52:22, 78:18CERTIFICATE [1] -145:1certification [1] -95:2CFO [1] - 107:10CH2M [3] - 49:16,67:1, 92:16chagrin [1] - 11:8Chamberlin [13] -4:12, 16:18, 16:20,16:22, 33:20, 36:9,58:2, 62:7, 71:20,88:22, 106:4, 129:11,129:13chance [4] - 28:16,48:9, 60:23, 100:24change [6] - 17:10,17:25, 32:7, 63:22,120:16, 124:14changed [1] - 3:12changes [3] - 128:5,138:1, 138:5changing [3] - 9:21,9:22, 126:13characters [1] -123:11charge [1] - 77:22check [5] - 10:4,77:17, 109:22,118:11, 129:3checking [1] -117:23Cheyenne [1] - 127:5Chicago [8] - 11:13,12:10, 74:5, 76:4,76:19, 76:22, 93:23,99:4chickens [1] - 102:8children [3] - 9:11,43:7, 43:8CHM [1] - 92:14choosing [1] - 77:5chose [1] - 91:11Chris [5] - 74:7,74:23, 77:7, 77:8,78:22Christmas [2] - 31:2,31:7Christmastime [1] -
138:15chum [1] - 22:2chummy [1] - 22:2chummy-chum [1] -22:2cilantro [1] - 39:20circumstances [1] -77:2claims [2] - 99:25,144:10classic [1] - 71:20clean [1] - 101:8cleaning [1] - 94:4clear [5] - 26:25,27:7, 65:2, 78:10,83:10clearance [10] -40:20, 41:14, 43:11,46:7, 46:8, 46:23,47:15, 48:4, 51:2,52:20cleared [2] - 42:21,51:3clearly [2] - 84:8,87:8clerk [1] - 54:14Clinic [1] - 10:7close [2] - 14:8,90:16closed [2] - 20:8,24:5closed-door [2] -20:8, 24:5closer [3] - 29:5,30:14, 30:25co [7] - 62:4, 62:5,62:12, 79:23, 123:6,140:8, 143:10co-opt [1] - 143:10co-opted [4] - 62:4,62:5, 79:23, 140:8co-opter [1] - 62:12co-opting [1] - 123:6code [1] - 29:14college [2] - 63:12,63:14Colorado [1] - 127:4comfortable [1] -27:13coming [14] - 4:25,43:15, 49:5, 56:20,73:14, 79:13, 79:20,100:20, 105:3,106:17, 116:15,137:11, 137:13comment [2] - 20:14,135:13comments [2] -18:18, 20:3commission [16] -
20:21, 21:2, 21:4,21:24, 22:17, 23:21,24:6, 30:16, 43:4,57:21, 58:10, 58:12,63:25, 98:14, 100:23,101:24commission's [1] -68:12commitment [1] -4:12committed [2] -130:9, 130:20committee [6] -15:18, 18:13, 22:12,24:25, 29:7companies [7] - 2:8,12:3, 14:19, 49:3,51:2company [35] -11:23, 15:11, 19:13,23:2, 23:3, 23:4,23:15, 26:6, 26:7,26:24, 27:15, 28:9,28:11, 28:12, 29:9,29:25, 30:16, 36:25,37:11, 41:22, 45:3,45:5, 45:17, 46:21,51:4, 51:6, 51:12,60:25, 63:20, 68:2,68:15, 69:1, 69:23,69:24compete [1] - 28:16competed [1] - 39:10competition [4] -28:20, 32:22, 33:11,76:5competitions [2] -86:1, 86:3complain [1] - 12:14complaint [3] -103:5, 133:15, 135:20complaints [1] -134:12complete [1] - 41:22completely [2] -67:1, 121:18complex [1] - 49:20complicated [1] -71:6concern [1] - 35:24concerned [2] -36:24concerns [1] -131:21concluded [2] -130:4, 133:19concrete [1] - 99:15conduct [1] - 29:14conducted [1] -133:19
3
confidence [1] -144:6conflict [21] - 24:5,25:20, 26:3, 29:5,29:14, 34:10, 34:15,34:22, 34:23, 34:25,35:20, 35:21, 36:5,36:6, 36:14, 39:7,42:9, 104:1, 135:23,139:14conflicts [3] - 14:25,27:23, 119:5confused [2] - 21:16,30:15congratulations [1] -11:20Congressional [4] -96:24, 100:16,100:22, 128:14Congressmen [2] -98:15, 104:10connected [1] -103:16connection [8] -18:25, 22:17, 22:20,23:25, 24:1, 80:6,106:16, 107:21consider [1] - 52:13consultant [1] -24:15contacting [1] -103:1contacts [3] - 96:24,104:9, 108:17continue [2] -102:23, 141:1contract [14] - 41:23,42:12, 42:14, 42:15,59:20, 97:1, 97:20,98:11, 98:18, 111:18,111:25, 142:2, 142:3,142:4contracted [1] -41:22contracting [6] -85:17, 88:5, 89:15,89:17, 108:22, 113:10contractor [1] -17:13contracts [6] - 74:16,77:23, 97:15, 98:6,99:17, 138:21contributed [1] -131:16controversial [1] -31:11conversation [1] -80:7conversations [1] -56:9
convince [1] - 15:6cooking [2] - 5:6,5:19cool [4] - 9:18,11:17, 54:5, 144:7cooperation [1] -132:4copping [1] - 136:22copy [1] - 33:13Corporate [4] -61:22, 115:20, 116:1corporate [2] - 45:7,134:20corporation [1] -132:8corporation's [1] -32:19correct [80] - 15:19,18:20, 18:24, 19:5,23:24, 25:22, 27:16,27:20, 45:11, 46:14,46:15, 46:24, 46:25,47:1, 47:6, 47:11,47:18, 47:21, 48:6,49:6, 51:8, 51:22,52:9, 52:17, 56:24,60:13, 61:5, 66:20,69:18, 71:3, 73:23,75:12, 81:21, 82:8,82:21, 83:8, 83:22,84:3, 84:6, 84:12,86:5, 91:18, 92:1,92:8, 92:25, 93:7,93:14, 93:18, 94:23,95:13, 97:13, 98:3,104:15, 105:1, 105:6,122:19, 123:18,125:12, 125:23,136:8, 140:18, 141:9,141:13, 145:9corrupt [1] - 125:1corruption [4] -121:12, 123:16,125:24, 134:16counsel [17] - 11:9,11:24, 25:24, 27:3,27:12, 27:19, 32:10,128:13, 128:17,130:4, 130:6, 131:17,132:14, 134:5, 135:4,136:19, 145:14count [1] - 72:14country [1] - 72:18COUNTY [1] - 145:3County [1] - 145:24couple [10] - 10:15,12:13, 14:11, 19:22,34:1, 34:11, 81:5,91:13, 108:12, 141:4course [15] - 7:12,
32:23, 33:2, 34:7,44:9, 47:24, 48:10,62:10, 71:18, 98:20,119:7, 119:9, 129:2crack [1] - 126:11crack-of-dawn [1] -126:11crafting [1] - 140:1Cragg [3] - 2:3,111:12, 145:7crap [1] - 25:18crash [1] - 93:1crazier [1] - 120:8craziest [1] - 74:7craziness [4] -12:19, 58:4, 62:4,121:17crazy [9] - 3:12,12:17, 12:18, 20:1,64:22, 120:11,127:17, 127:18, 137:7crazy-assed [1] -64:22creating [2] - 29:2,130:25credit [2] - 111:7,123:7criminal [1] - 111:1crooks [1] - 69:10cross [1] - 99:22cross-pollination [1]- 99:22CRP [10] - 16:4,18:25, 86:20, 97:17,100:8, 100:18,105:19, 106:8, 107:2,107:17CRPs [7] - 15:18,16:6, 54:25, 85:21,92:7, 105:4, 139:25crushed [2] - 63:3,63:7cuff [1] - 10:2culture [2] - 120:15,132:9custodial [1] - 7:17customer [6] - 57:20,90:2, 97:24, 97:25,108:4cut [1] - 32:25cutting [2] - 102:21,103:12CW [2] - 51:11, 51:12
D
dabbling [1] - 108:18damn [6] - 26:25,32:2, 55:15, 95:15,102:2
Damn [1] - 68:3Dan [1] - 111:12Dangerfield [1] -24:9dangerous [2] -44:7, 82:16Daniel [2] - 2:3,145:7darkness [1] -119:21darn [3] - 34:9, 82:5,90:13date [1] - 29:4daughter [5] - 10:14,10:21, 16:7, 23:14,107:19daughter's [2] - 23:6,109:25Dave [8] - 53:18,79:23, 80:5, 80:6,81:5, 89:7, 90:8,110:16David [19] - 20:22,20:23, 20:24, 31:2,31:7, 31:8, 33:5,34:14, 79:3, 80:16,80:21, 81:11, 81:16,82:2, 89:20, 103:2,103:4, 103:6David's [1] - 103:5dawn [1] - 126:11dawned [2] - 32:9,32:13daylight [1] - 119:21days [7] - 19:22,57:17, 63:20, 81:2,104:3, 126:3, 143:17DEA [1] - 110:22dead [1] - 82:2deal [15] - 5:18,29:19, 51:24, 52:4,57:4, 61:4, 62:15,62:16, 93:9, 96:13,105:10, 119:4,125:23, 134:22,137:20dealing [2] - 9:17,10:12dealt [1] - 11:7dear [1] - 130:3debrief [2] - 65:12,65:14debriefed [2] - 95:18,95:22debriefing [1] - 95:8decent [1] - 48:9decide [5] - 30:2,41:12, 43:23, 65:14decided [10] - 33:19,38:24, 41:11, 43:4,
43:22, 44:14, 49:18,98:22, 108:4, 122:1decides [3] - 19:12,19:15, 65:23decision [2] -131:16, 132:2decisions [2] -65:10, 79:8declare [1] - 27:9dedication [1] -130:24defensible [1] -61:18deficit [3] - 31:10,31:24, 139:17definitely [3] - 27:9,42:22, 42:24Degan [1] - 50:4degree [3] - 62:21,63:13, 141:21delegated [1] - 90:17denied [2] - 112:24,113:1Dennis [48] - 17:18,18:15, 20:9, 21:25,22:24, 22:25, 24:6,28:22, 29:13, 29:23,30:5, 30:12, 30:18,33:13, 35:24, 62:7,64:1, 64:14, 64:19,64:21, 65:8, 67:18,68:24, 69:11, 79:18,82:18, 82:23, 83:14,83:20, 83:23, 96:10,98:19, 98:23, 98:25,100:15, 101:25,102:6, 104:21,104:22, 105:16,106:4, 123:5, 123:13,134:8, 135:14, 142:15Dennis's [2] - 54:10,69:20Denver [2] - 95:6,95:18Department [1] -89:8department [10] -57:14, 85:15, 130:22,131:19, 131:22,132:6, 133:11,133:14, 136:21,136:24department's [1] -131:15deserve [1] - 111:7designed [1] - 134:7desk [1] - 87:4destroy [1] - 121:25destroyed [2] - 67:1,127:5
4
details [2] - 38:12,38:13determine [1] - 42:8determined [4] -42:22, 42:23, 67:15,73:7determining [2] -36:9, 36:12detractors [1] -56:23development [1] -28:8diabolical [1] - 64:16diagnosis [1] - 9:22Diaz [3] - 24:7, 26:8,53:17die [1] - 100:14Diego [1] - 89:9difference [1] - 54:9different [4] - 14:1,72:21, 118:25, 121:18differently [3] -14:25, 15:13, 104:2difficult [1] - 111:21dinner [3] - 5:6, 5:20,5:21direct [3] - 62:13,83:5, 137:3directed [3] - 45:4,131:23direction [1] - 79:6directly [6] - 99:7,131:21, 132:1,133:25, 135:8, 136:22director [2] - 96:20,133:15directors [9] - 53:12,53:23, 53:24, 53:25,56:3, 62:3, 62:12,79:7, 132:21directs [1] - 53:13dirty [1] - 90:17disabilities [14] -97:2, 97:7, 97:11,98:7, 98:10, 98:13,99:12, 99:14, 99:21,100:1, 100:19, 101:7,116:11, 131:1disability [1] - 99:20disabled [6] - 16:7,19:13, 22:21, 23:14,69:1, 89:12disapproval [1] -135:10discipline [2] -133:25, 135:24disclose [10] - 16:12,26:3, 26:6, 26:14,26:20, 26:21, 27:23,34:17, 102:14, 102:16
disclosed [3] -29:21, 36:7, 50:20discloses [1] - 27:9disclosure [3] -25:20, 34:25, 36:13discredit [1] - 131:4discreet [1] - 91:10discuss [5] - 29:14,34:21, 88:11, 132:19,132:22discussed [3] - 56:4,138:2, 138:4discussion [2] -29:8, 55:2discussions [1] -134:8disfavored [1] -131:7dismay [1] - 11:8disparaging [1] -18:17dispute [1] - 64:19dissatisfaction [2] -131:18, 136:20distancing [1] -142:17distribution [1] -74:17distrust [1] - 132:9doctors [1] - 10:13documentation [1] -101:10dollar [2] - 41:6,73:16dollars [2] - 31:25,99:17domain [1] - 134:12done [15] - 29:19,35:8, 44:23, 46:10,51:24, 52:4, 53:6,56:8, 57:4, 99:23,112:12, 116:2,119:21, 145:9door [17] - 6:17,6:19, 6:20, 20:8, 24:5,75:6, 75:7, 75:14,91:16, 92:2, 93:23,93:24, 94:2, 94:3,104:3, 137:15, 138:11down [12] - 20:15,25:25, 29:12, 37:4,81:1, 90:9, 97:5,106:3, 106:17,109:15, 115:8, 117:22download [1] - 122:3downtown [1] - 76:4drafted [1] - 143:16drafting [1] - 143:17dressed [1] - 21:11drill [1] - 37:4
drink [2] - 123:1,123:3drinking [1] - 122:25drive [2] - 122:21,141:18driving [1] - 10:22drop [1] - 21:7Dubinsky [3] - 53:18,89:7, 110:16due [1] - 134:22dumb [1] - 67:11during [5] - 19:2,56:5, 86:19, 135:6,135:9duty [3] - 27:23,27:24, 34:16
E
e-mail [5] - 60:7,60:9, 128:2, 128:20,129:3e-mailed [1] - 145:6e-waste [3] - 31:11,32:14, 139:15early [2] - 115:12,130:14earth [1] - 111:6easily [1] - 71:8East [2] - 26:8, 28:6Eastern [1] - 19:17eating [1] - 5:21education [1] - 96:4effective [1] - 130:6effectively [2] -132:8, 132:13ego [4] - 54:16,123:24, 124:2, 133:12either [2] - 44:17,92:11El [1] - 97:5electronically [1] -59:10elements [1] - 63:23eligible [3] - 47:5,48:23, 56:25elimination [1] - 86:8Elizabeth [1] - 106:5Elmendorf [3] - 87:7,109:13, 109:14emotional [1] - 128:1employed [1] -145:14employee [9] -74:23, 76:24, 133:16,133:18, 134:11,137:7, 145:12, 145:13employees [2] -28:16, 141:2employer [1] - 3:4
employer's [1] - 11:8employment [1] -130:25encouraged [1] -131:14End [4] - 8:16, 70:5,114:16, 144:15end [7] - 6:4, 23:5,25:18, 25:23, 57:16,124:13, 142:5endeavor [2] -127:20, 127:21endeavored [1] -130:21ended [1] - 38:15endless [1] - 71:2ends [1] - 142:5engage [1] - 132:10enjoy [1] - 127:19enlighten [1] - 7:4enlist [2] - 21:18,21:21enthusiasm [1] -130:24entrusted [1] - 141:4entrusting [1] -132:5ESOP [2] - 17:19,68:2ESOPs [1] - 69:12especially [1] - 4:15essence [1] - 68:10essentially [1] -44:23estimate [1] - 94:18etcetera [10] - 11:11,12:22, 18:2, 26:4,28:17, 56:9, 57:8,123:16ethical [1] - 64:12ethics [1] - 135:20evaluation [1] -86:19Evans [2] - 106:25,107:6evening [1] - 114:12event [1] - 142:14eventually [1] -90:12everyday [1] -131:11everywhere [1] -74:14ex [1] - 106:11ex-military [1] -106:11exact [1] - 75:10exactly [8] - 15:9,44:20, 84:12, 94:25,95:17, 134:23
example [15] - 19:1,43:23, 49:6, 55:11,56:2, 57:10, 64:17,103:10, 104:18,135:21, 135:25,140:5, 141:1, 141:5,143:16examples [2] -133:10, 133:13except [4] - 24:8,39:8, 44:17, 93:23excited [1] - 66:5excluded [2] - 35:16,64:13excuse [2] - 30:18,59:19execute [2] - 113:18,134:19executive [7] - 14:2,14:5, 56:3, 60:22,62:3, 79:7, 96:19exercise [2] - 89:16,89:18expanded [2] -135:6, 135:10expenditure [1] -31:13expert [1] - 17:12explain [10] - 23:9,38:6, 39:15, 39:19,41:15, 74:21, 75:24,95:19, 95:23, 95:24explanation [5] -30:18, 87:13, 87:16,87:19, 108:3expose [2] - 125:11,131:5expressed [3] -131:21, 135:7, 136:23extent [1] - 84:2eye [3] - 99:10,121:23, 121:24
F
face [4] - 23:17,29:24, 111:5, 142:19facility [1] - 46:7fact [14] - 24:18,35:22, 36:13, 36:25,42:17, 49:7, 66:5,88:21, 100:7, 105:20,110:2, 122:3, 139:23,144:11facts [5] - 75:11,77:17, 77:18, 78:13,132:11fair [6] - 28:19, 64:9,67:17, 84:24, 99:2,104:19
5
fairly [1] - 74:25fairness [2] - 83:3,104:24faith [1] - 83:13fall [5] - 64:16, 65:3,65:22, 84:5, 126:15falling [1] - 38:15familiar [2] - 61:22,98:4family [3] - 106:10,106:16, 106:17fan [1] - 84:7far [3] - 116:1, 116:9,135:16farce [1] - 35:11father [1] - 106:10fault [2] - 65:24,68:13favor [1] - 134:20favoritism [1] -103:12feasibility [1] - 81:7federal [1] - 17:13fee [2] - 26:17, 37:1feet [1] - 102:5fell [1] - 117:16felt [1] - 79:11few [5] - 25:17, 41:6,43:8, 123:5, 131:3Fide [11] - 56:2,60:23, 61:17, 74:18,75:3, 75:8, 75:9,75:22, 75:23, 86:7,140:7Fide's [4] - 56:11,59:12, 59:22, 136:8field [1] - 107:1Fields [6] - 17:19,67:19, 102:1, 104:22,134:8, 135:14fight [1] - 72:3fighting [2] - 79:24,81:12figure [10] - 4:23,12:25, 33:7, 39:8,52:10, 71:7, 79:13,86:8, 126:8, 126:9figured [11] - 12:15,12:24, 13:9, 13:10,34:4, 42:17, 44:21,124:20, 125:4, 125:7figuring [2] - 93:5,141:25file [4] - 8:16, 70:5,114:16, 144:15filed [1] - 112:7files [2] - 101:9,101:10fill [3] - 25:25, 26:2,27:1
filled [1] - 25:21finally [3] - 5:1, 32:2,126:6findings [1] - 133:21fine [3] - 8:6, 14:14,113:11fingerprints [1] -90:15finish [3] - 5:19, 6:2finished [5] - 30:19,63:23, 69:15, 101:2,104:12fire [1] - 138:15fired [2] - 14:3, 77:25firms [2] - 11:11,128:18first [12] - 3:3, 9:25,36:16, 46:3, 60:7,65:17, 80:24, 82:4,89:16, 91:2, 102:6,143:12first-year [1] - 89:16five [3] - 22:1, 85:16,85:18fix [2] - 13:1, 84:23floods [1] - 127:4focus [1] - 91:14FOIA [1] - 90:5folks [1] - 120:7following [1] - 34:21follows [3] - 13:10,133:11, 133:13fools [1] - 19:10footnote [1] - 133:5footnotes [3] -132:15, 133:3, 134:7footprint [1] - 76:19footprints [1] -110:17for-profit [4] - 68:2,68:15, 116:7, 116:10Force [4] - 87:24,88:18, 88:23, 127:4foregoing [2] -145:5, 145:8foreign [1] - 72:18forest [1] - 140:16forever [1] - 81:17forget [2] - 23:4,80:25forgot [1] - 80:14form [3] - 19:20,25:25, 27:10formed [1] - 23:4former [3] - 133:16,133:18forms [1] - 25:20Fort [4] - 68:3, 68:5,68:6, 95:6forth [2] - 10:12, 22:7
forward [2] - 60:2,91:3Fountain's [1] -135:20four [7] - 2:3, 33:7,85:15, 85:18, 135:1,143:16, 145:5fox [1] - 15:21frame [3] - 48:4,52:21, 52:25frankly [3] - 42:6,53:8, 105:12frantic [1] - 35:13Fred [2] - 77:9, 77:11fresh [1] - 32:11Friday [1] - 60:15friend [3] - 5:15,17:1, 45:24friends [7] - 14:10,16:18, 16:23, 18:17,72:9, 110:22front [4] - 36:3, 67:1,78:7, 94:5froze [1] - 82:9frustrating [2] - 9:24,132:12fully [1] - 79:23function [1] - 132:13functions [1] -130:22funny [3] - 20:19,63:12, 105:15futuristic [1] - 43:19
G
G2 [1] - 38:22galley [1] - 44:1game [14] - 12:25,13:1, 13:9, 14:8,52:14, 56:8, 76:16,92:20, 92:21, 93:4,93:10, 107:14,143:20, 143:21ganged [1] - 103:20GAO [4] - 58:15,64:3, 102:18, 136:2garage [1] - 44:1gaze [1] - 50:15general [11] - 11:9,11:24, 32:10, 45:24,46:6, 109:18, 128:17,130:6, 131:17, 135:4,136:19generally [2] - 46:20,142:2generic [1] - 36:17Geospatial [1] -117:14ghost [1] - 82:2
Gibbons [3] - 31:17,35:8, 139:15Gibbons' [1] - 34:25given [8] - 11:15,47:8, 57:7, 79:6,87:20, 87:21, 100:11,118:24glosses [1] - 30:5gmail [1] - 129:21God [3] - 19:9, 33:4,66:6Goli [7] - 19:25,101:15, 102:2, 102:3,134:14, 134:18Gonzales [2] - 20:24,43:7goodness [2] - 5:16,50:3Goodwill [4] - 31:17,32:10, 32:21, 32:25Goodwills [2] -32:14, 33:1Google [1] - 116:5gotcha [5] - 17:2,55:22, 90:18governance [1] -18:1government [14] -43:21, 46:19, 48:5,48:7, 48:24, 49:18,50:16, 52:24, 72:22,76:11, 78:7, 85:17,87:22GPS [1] - 44:4grab [1] - 126:8gramma [1] - 10:16great [10] - 22:13,22:21, 24:1, 26:15,66:10, 100:3, 121:20,141:16greed [2] - 71:2,120:14ground [1] - 79:1grounds [1] - 88:4group [2] - 42:24,82:19GSA [23] - 6:14,57:11, 59:25, 60:1,72:22, 74:2, 75:2,75:8, 75:10, 75:17,75:22, 75:24, 75:25,77:21, 77:22, 78:22,80:17, 80:22, 81:4,81:10, 82:6, 94:5GSA-motivated [1] -78:22guarding [2] - 15:20,15:21guess [19] - 10:24,12:10, 16:7, 37:15,
37:16, 45:5, 51:20,53:2, 61:19, 97:25,103:1, 104:2, 105:9,116:1, 126:4, 140:1,140:4, 144:9guilt [1] - 66:11guilty [1] - 82:6guise [1] - 39:6guru [1] - 50:2guy [52] - 14:20,15:23, 16:13, 16:25,17:23, 18:23, 19:15,19:16, 19:21, 20:3,20:12, 21:11, 21:17,22:25, 23:8, 23:19,24:13, 30:23, 34:16,34:23, 34:24, 37:5,38:4, 42:20, 54:3,54:13, 64:17, 65:3,65:22, 74:23, 74:25,84:5, 84:18, 84:19,84:20, 90:25, 91:2,96:5, 118:14, 120:2,121:2, 121:3, 122:10,122:16, 123:17,131:9, 133:12, 136:9,137:18, 138:16guys [43] - 14:25,15:12, 26:16, 31:1,31:4, 31:23, 33:5,34:14, 37:2, 41:1,50:16, 51:1, 60:12,64:2, 64:20, 66:6,67:17, 68:14, 74:12,74:17, 81:13, 84:2,91:24, 92:10, 98:5,98:10, 101:13,102:21, 103:11,105:17, 105:23,106:6, 111:16, 113:7,118:25, 124:13,135:25, 138:2, 138:4,139:16, 143:14,144:3, 144:4
H
half [6] - 7:22, 23:11,57:17, 63:20, 133:9,139:7half-asleep [1] -23:11half-baked [1] -133:9halfway [1] - 21:10hall [3] - 20:16,74:13, 78:11hand [2] - 25:19,27:10HAND [1] - 145:19
6
handedly [1] - 41:5handle [2] - 86:25,90:23handpicked [1] -123:21hands [1] - 27:10hang [2] - 70:2, 70:3hanging [1] - 9:5happy [5] - 13:20,22:22, 55:13, 65:13,124:15hard [7] - 31:23,68:12, 92:3, 106:3,106:17, 122:13, 124:2hate [2] - 37:17, 41:2head [7] - 7:3, 15:10,46:2, 60:25, 104:24,105:8, 119:1headquarters [2] -87:11, 117:12heads [1] - 31:17health [1] - 9:17hear [5] - 2:6, 14:12,14:14, 14:15, 130:10heard [6] - 49:1,68:11, 76:10, 76:12,101:1, 117:1heartburn [1] -135:23Heath [1] - 50:5heavily [1] - 116:10hell [3] - 9:14, 22:23,24:5hello [1] - 115:2Hello [1] - 9:2help [15] - 17:25,22:21, 27:2, 27:6,53:25, 67:23, 78:4,108:23, 120:22,120:23, 124:9,132:23, 133:1, 134:7,142:14helpful [1] - 133:6hen [1] - 15:20Henderson [1] - 62:2henhouse [1] - 15:21hereby [1] - 130:5hereto [3] - 145:13,145:14, 145:16highest [1] - 97:17hilarious [1] - 20:20Hill [4] - 49:16, 67:1,92:16, 117:11himself [1] - 83:2hired [3] - 28:6,28:15hires [1] - 97:1hiring [1] - 99:25Hispanic [1] - 105:13history [1] - 68:1
hit [2] - 80:15,136:24hits [1] - 84:7hmm [8] - 21:14,38:20, 44:15, 69:18,77:6, 79:16, 82:10,112:2hold [12] - 5:22, 7:22,40:15, 50:15, 69:24,69:25, 127:14, 128:7,128:19, 128:21,129:9, 130:8holding [8] - 7:13,7:14, 57:19, 60:2,60:3, 100:2, 128:13,128:16holiday [1] - 60:8home [2] - 9:10,102:9Homeland [1] - 89:8homework [1] - 53:6honest [5] - 74:25,83:16, 108:21,141:22, 143:11Hood [1] - 95:6hope [2] - 132:19,141:23hopper [1] - 112:20horse's [1] - 39:1hot [3] - 9:5, 9:14,83:15hour [2] - 7:22house [1] - 3:6housetops [1] -119:23huge [5] - 13:11,44:2, 44:11, 97:4Huggins [2] - 121:2,121:4human [3] - 133:15,134:9, 134:10hundreds [1] - 99:17hung [1] - 75:15Hyatt [1] - 11:24
I
idea [4] - 11:23,69:10, 82:6, 103:23identification [1] -2:2idiots [1] - 32:16illegal [1] - 99:25Illinois [2] - 6:14,74:2imagine [2] - 3:15,108:21immediate [1] -62:13immediately [3] -
39:7, 88:12, 138:16immigrants [1] -100:1impairs [1] - 132:13imperative [1] -41:17implement [1] -64:18importance [1] -132:5important [2] - 54:7,55:13incredible [1] -133:12incredulous [1] -144:13incumbent [3] -68:15, 113:22incur [1] - 66:10indeed [1] - 30:3independent [12] -14:11, 15:17, 15:24,17:3, 18:23, 19:6,22:11, 22:12, 29:6,30:23, 37:2, 65:9indirectly [1] - 132:1individuals [7] - 2:8,53:22, 54:2, 55:5,130:21, 131:6inefficiencies [2] -131:18, 136:20inequitable [1] -17:11influence [1] - 97:8information [8] -4:23, 30:4, 30:10,39:2, 42:7, 42:10,85:20, 108:24informed [1] -135:14injustice [1] - 100:17injustices [1] - 141:1innocent [1] - 23:19inquire [1] - 87:9inside [2] - 100:6,108:24insider [2] - 97:7,103:11insisting [1] - 72:23instances [1] - 95:1instead [2] - 97:21,131:11institute [1] - 96:7instruct [1] - 102:6instructed [1] -89:15instruction [1] -134:19instructions [1] -134:21
intelligence [1] -46:3intelligent [1] -123:10intentionally [1] -69:13interact [2] - 85:19,85:20interaction [1] - 92:4interest [4] - 25:20,34:10, 104:1, 139:14interested [1] -145:15interesting [13] - 5:1,5:5, 28:20, 48:16,51:19, 61:24, 72:15,73:18, 103:22,110:23, 115:17, 122:6interests [4] - 32:20,33:18, 134:21internal [2] - 19:25,65:13internally [1] - 65:21introduces [1] -22:25investigated [2] -80:17, 82:7investigating [1] -101:1investigation [9] -103:18, 104:14,133:12, 133:14,133:20, 134:11,135:19, 139:11, 141:3invite [1] - 88:21involved [9] - 22:24,64:10, 84:1, 116:10,133:17, 135:24,139:8, 139:10, 139:24involving [1] - 74:18island [1] - 113:13issue [9] - 6:16,29:14, 29:20, 35:23,43:13, 78:10, 116:24,123:25, 140:23issued [2] - 133:23,134:2issues [11] - 9:17,29:14, 30:24, 78:18,87:2, 132:12, 134:16,136:2, 138:18, 139:1,139:12
J
jacket [1] - 126:18janitorial [5] - 59:21,61:2, 61:3, 68:18,68:19January [3] - 130:8,
130:19Jean [24] - 2:3,14:24, 15:11, 24:9,25:1, 25:24, 40:12,48:22, 53:9, 55:16,57:18, 62:5, 62:17,78:6, 86:14, 115:3,121:11, 129:11,131:17, 131:20,132:20, 135:4,136:18, 136:21jean [1] - 9:3Jeff [1] - 135:19Jetsons [1] - 43:18jig [1] - 103:25Jim [19] - 6:9, 6:13,14:10, 14:19, 14:20,15:4, 15:23, 16:22,16:25, 18:16, 19:4,27:8, 31:16, 33:19,34:25, 45:2, 58:2,71:21, 139:15Job [1] - 89:9job [6] - 15:9, 54:6,54:10, 54:13, 54:15jobs [2] - 28:17,28:18Joe [8] - 24:7, 26:8,53:17, 56:7, 118:1,118:6, 133:18john [1] - 121:1John [26] - 42:12,64:14, 69:9, 69:12,69:13, 69:15, 95:21,101:17, 120:17,120:21, 120:24,121:2, 121:4, 121:19,122:5, 123:21,123:25, 124:1, 124:9,124:20, 124:24,127:15, 137:21,142:12, 143:8John's [1] - 127:23joining [2] - 130:7,130:19Joint [1] - 109:14joke [1] - 68:13Jonestown [1] -123:2Jose [1] - 116:25juice [1] - 136:15July [4] - 13:23,25:19, 31:2, 31:7jump [1] - 127:22jumped [2] - 102:5,124:12June [1] - 134:18justice [2] - 83:3,100:25Justice [5] - 103:17,
7
103:18, 103:24,104:3, 104:13
K
keep [23] - 9:20,9:21, 9:22, 18:7,18:22, 27:11, 27:22,37:4, 50:24, 55:18,60:2, 60:3, 65:20,65:21, 85:5, 98:5,99:2, 100:2, 100:16,102:24, 103:15,120:2, 123:20keeping [1] - 55:12keeps [5] - 18:13,65:12, 118:7, 118:8,126:13kept [1] - 95:23kibosh [2] - 49:15,56:2kick [2] - 89:16,89:18kicked [6] - 14:5,105:20, 105:22,105:24, 105:25,106:21kicker [1] - 14:7kid [3] - 16:6, 35:14,126:9kidding [2] - 108:9,121:11killing [1] - 129:16kind [44] - 4:17, 5:1,9:13, 10:5, 11:6,11:17, 12:10, 13:18,13:20, 14:23, 15:14,16:10, 20:12, 24:11,25:16, 27:13, 30:5,30:6, 35:3, 39:1,42:16, 43:2, 48:19,52:4, 55:24, 57:3,59:20, 71:21, 74:25,81:19, 84:2, 91:3,122:9, 124:13,125:18, 129:5,129:15, 131:19,136:22, 138:21,139:9, 139:20, 142:20kingpin [1] - 54:19knock [2] - 32:21,33:11knocking [1] - 104:3knowing [2] - 74:24,142:12knowledge [2] -133:23, 134:10knowledgeable [1] -107:13known [3] - 97:10,
107:20, 145:5knows [15] - 41:2,41:4, 61:7, 82:16,88:14, 102:16,107:14, 117:17,124:24, 124:25,125:5, 129:2, 143:9,143:25Knox [1] - 68:6Kool [3] - 123:1,123:4Kool-Aid [3] - 123:1,123:4kowtow [1] - 79:17
L
lack [4] - 17:18,34:25, 51:20, 134:10lakeview [1] - 87:23Lakeview [2] - 88:2language [2] -135:10, 142:21larger [1] - 66:11last [23] - 3:4, 12:9,12:12, 13:22, 20:21,23:5, 38:15, 39:11,41:6, 90:14, 98:17,98:22, 103:17,115:10, 118:4,123:13, 135:1,135:13, 138:11,139:13, 140:5, 143:18late [8] - 8:5, 12:20,13:3, 44:22, 115:5,115:10, 138:8lately [4] - 20:17,33:6, 107:19, 107:25latest [1] - 112:24laughing [2] - 34:9,128:7law [2] - 11:10, 32:11lawsuit [1] - 103:5lawyers [1] - 11:10lay [2] - 111:12,115:8laying [1] - 82:15leadership [1] -131:3learned [2] - 82:15,131:2least [13] - 16:3,25:5, 25:6, 83:19,92:20, 111:1, 111:2,120:19, 125:14,125:15, 125:17,126:1, 126:6leave [6] - 3:6, 39:10,76:22, 110:16,120:19, 125:18
leaves [6] - 40:6,40:9, 111:1, 126:18,126:19leaving [5] - 74:12,90:11, 90:15, 111:2,125:15led [1] - 123:15left [4] - 10:23,16:16, 77:1, 125:22legal [22] - 35:17,56:10, 56:19, 57:14,64:10, 74:18, 101:15,124:17, 130:22,131:15, 131:19,131:22, 132:5, 132:6,132:14, 133:11,133:14, 136:21,136:24, 138:20,139:20legal's [1] - 102:14legally [1] - 138:20legit [1] - 52:11less [2] - 141:17lesson [1] - 82:15letter [22] - 102:17,103:5, 104:22,120:18, 120:20,122:2, 125:10,125:14, 125:18,126:7, 127:2, 127:23,127:24, 129:10,129:11, 131:24,133:1, 133:22,133:23, 134:1,134:23, 143:17letters [1] - 140:1level [1] - 65:17liability [1] - 131:5lid [2] - 91:15, 100:17lie [1] - 101:11life [4] - 5:8, 48:15,55:14, 74:8lifetime [1] - 127:20light [1] - 71:16limited [1] - 109:6limits [1] - 47:19line [6] - 29:16,43:15, 49:5, 56:20,70:3, 73:14Linke [1] - 50:11links [1] - 145:6list [2] - 57:7, 95:12listed [1] - 145:10literally [3] - 41:9,57:18, 93:22litigants [1] - 56:22litigations [1] - 83:18Little's [1] - 77:20lives [1] - 107:7living [1] - 9:12
loan [3] - 26:12,26:13located [1] - 96:21Lockard [1] - 64:1look [24] - 4:13, 7:15,23:16, 28:13, 29:5,30:14, 30:24, 33:4,37:22, 39:17, 52:6,59:10, 74:12, 100:24,101:9, 101:12,102:18, 111:10,111:11, 111:16,116:4, 128:20, 138:1,142:19looked [7] - 4:10,4:12, 4:22, 4:24, 34:8,60:16, 64:1looking [12] - 10:6,21:24, 21:25, 24:11,71:24, 88:7, 113:11,118:8, 128:7, 128:8,128:20, 142:16looks [4] - 93:12,118:10, 129:10,142:24loose [2] - 7:15, 7:16Lopez [3] - 2:4,48:13, 61:7LOPEZ [608] - 3:9,3:15, 3:24, 4:8, 4:20,5:3, 5:11, 5:16, 5:25,6:5, 6:8, 6:10, 6:12,6:15, 6:18, 6:21, 6:23,6:25, 7:7, 7:9, 7:12,7:19, 7:24, 8:3, 8:6,8:9, 8:13, 8:15, 9:3,9:5, 9:8, 9:10, 9:15,9:23, 10:8, 10:10,10:17, 11:1, 11:4,11:14, 11:18, 11:21,12:1, 12:6, 12:23,13:2, 13:5, 13:8,13:13, 13:15, 13:21,13:25, 14:6, 14:14,14:16, 14:22, 15:3,15:15, 15:19, 15:22,15:25, 16:8, 16:14,16:19, 16:21, 16:24,17:2, 17:6, 17:16,17:22, 18:4, 18:6,18:8, 18:11, 18:20,18:24, 19:5, 19:7,19:11, 19:14, 19:19,19:23, 20:6, 20:18,20:23, 21:1, 21:9,21:14, 22:3, 22:15,23:7, 23:12, 23:24,24:2, 24:10, 24:20,24:23, 25:4, 25:10,25:15, 25:22, 26:9,
27:4, 27:16, 27:20,28:14, 29:1, 29:11,30:1, 30:21, 31:15,31:19, 31:21, 32:5,32:12, 32:23, 33:2,33:22, 33:25, 34:7,34:18, 35:2, 35:6,35:9, 36:1, 36:11,36:19, 37:6, 37:13,37:20, 38:2, 38:20,39:4, 39:21, 39:25,40:2, 40:5, 40:10,40:16, 41:3, 41:8,41:19, 41:24, 42:4,42:15, 42:19, 43:20,44:3, 44:5, 44:9,44:15, 44:18, 44:20,45:11, 45:15, 45:17,45:21, 46:1, 46:4,46:15, 46:24, 47:1,47:6, 47:11, 47:18,47:21, 47:24, 48:6,48:10, 48:16, 49:1,49:6, 49:11, 49:15,49:25, 50:6, 50:10,50:12, 50:14, 50:24,51:8, 51:14, 51:17,51:22, 52:2, 52:9,52:17, 52:22, 53:1,53:4, 53:9, 53:12,53:17, 53:21, 54:4,54:8, 54:11, 54:17,54:20, 54:22, 54:24,55:6, 55:9, 55:17,55:19, 55:22, 56:1,56:13, 56:24, 57:2,57:6, 57:10, 57:24,58:6, 58:8, 58:14,58:19, 58:24, 59:2,59:4, 59:15, 60:13,61:5, 61:10, 61:19,61:24, 62:5, 62:8,62:10, 62:14, 62:17,62:19, 62:23, 62:25,63:5, 63:7, 63:16,64:5, 64:7, 64:24,65:4, 65:7, 65:19,65:25, 66:3, 66:7,66:10, 66:14, 66:17,66:20, 66:25, 67:4,67:9, 67:13, 67:18,67:24, 68:7, 68:21,68:23, 69:3, 69:6,69:18, 70:1, 70:4,71:3, 71:9, 71:11,71:18, 71:22, 72:1,72:4, 72:7, 72:15,72:20, 72:25, 73:2,73:5, 73:10, 73:13,73:18, 73:20, 73:23,74:1, 74:9, 75:1, 75:4,
8
75:12, 76:2, 76:9,76:12, 76:17, 76:21,77:6, 77:10, 77:13,77:15, 77:19, 77:22,78:2, 78:5, 78:15,78:19, 79:2, 79:4,79:10, 79:16, 79:19,80:1, 80:3, 80:10,80:13, 81:9, 81:14,81:21, 82:8, 82:17,82:21, 83:1, 83:8,83:12, 83:22, 84:3,84:6, 84:9, 84:12,84:14, 84:17, 84:21,85:3, 85:7, 85:10,85:13, 85:23, 86:2,86:5, 86:10, 86:14,86:18, 86:21, 87:1,87:6, 87:15, 87:18,87:21, 88:1, 88:10,88:14, 88:16, 88:20,89:1, 89:4, 89:7,89:11, 89:14, 89:22,90:1, 90:4, 90:7,90:10, 90:18, 90:22,91:4, 91:7, 91:10,91:18, 91:20, 92:1,92:8, 92:13, 92:16,92:23, 92:25, 93:3,93:7, 93:14, 93:18,93:21, 93:24, 94:2,94:6, 94:9, 94:12,94:15, 94:18, 94:23,94:25, 95:5, 95:13,95:17, 95:21, 96:12,96:15, 96:17, 96:22,97:13, 97:18, 97:22,98:3, 98:24, 99:5,100:9, 101:5, 102:4,103:8, 103:14,103:21, 104:15,104:20, 105:1, 105:6,105:14, 105:18,105:24, 106:2, 106:7,106:12, 106:15,106:20, 106:24,107:1, 107:3, 107:6,107:9, 107:11,107:15, 107:20,107:24, 108:2, 108:8,108:10, 108:14,108:16, 108:20,109:2, 109:5, 109:7,109:10, 109:13,109:17, 109:21,110:1, 110:5, 110:8,110:11, 110:13,110:18, 110:22,110:25, 111:8,111:14, 111:20,111:23, 112:2, 112:5,
112:9, 112:13,112:16, 112:23,113:3, 113:5, 113:9,113:15, 113:20,113:24, 114:6,114:10, 114:12,114:14, 115:3, 115:5,115:9, 115:11,115:14, 115:18,115:20, 115:24,116:4, 116:9, 116:14,116:16, 116:18,116:22, 116:24,117:4, 117:7, 117:9,117:11, 117:14,117:16, 117:19,117:25, 118:2, 118:4,118:7, 118:10,118:14, 118:18,118:21, 119:2, 119:7,119:9, 119:14,119:16, 119:25,120:5, 120:9, 120:13,120:21, 120:24,121:1, 121:4, 121:6,121:8, 121:11,121:22, 122:8,122:11, 122:14,122:19, 122:23,123:2, 123:9, 123:18,124:6, 124:10,124:18, 124:20,124:23, 125:8,125:12, 125:20,125:23, 126:2,126:16, 126:21,126:24, 127:1, 127:3,127:9, 127:11,127:13, 127:15,127:19, 127:25,128:3, 128:9, 128:11,128:15, 128:23,129:1, 129:4, 129:7,129:14, 129:17,129:19, 129:22,129:25, 130:10,130:13, 130:17,131:10, 131:13,132:17, 132:25,133:4, 133:7, 133:9,134:3, 135:18, 136:3,136:6, 136:14,136:16, 137:1, 137:9,137:11, 137:16,137:19, 137:23,138:2, 138:4, 138:8,138:13, 138:17,138:23, 139:3, 139:6,139:21, 140:3,140:10, 140:13,140:18, 140:21,
141:6, 141:9, 141:13,141:19, 141:21,142:6, 142:8, 142:11,142:18, 142:21,143:2, 143:5, 143:7,143:22, 143:24Lord [1] - 119:20lose [1] - 37:17loss [1] - 141:16lost [1] - 16:13Louis [5] - 5:10,38:24, 45:13, 49:9love [1] - 16:13loves [1] - 54:15low [1] - 82:15loyalty [1] - 131:23lunch [6] - 3:18, 4:2,4:6, 4:13, 57:22lying [3] - 75:20,75:21, 120:15
M
M.J [7] - 6:22, 96:4,96:15, 96:17, 96:19,102:10, 104:8MacDill [3] - 87:24,88:17, 88:23mad [3] - 102:21,106:18, 125:16made-up [1] - 54:6madness [1] - 3:22mafia [4] - 31:18,33:21, 62:1, 101:14magnus [1] - 128:6mail [5] - 60:7, 60:9,128:2, 128:20, 129:3mailed [1] - 145:6major [8] - 59:19,63:23, 99:23, 136:1,138:18, 139:9, 139:22malicious [1] - 135:2man [12] - 23:17,42:8, 91:10, 123:1,123:4, 123:7, 124:4,125:14, 126:1, 126:5,127:23, 137:22manage [1] - 55:5manageable [1] -34:16managed [2] - 47:16,122:21management [3] -3:14, 15:10, 16:4manager [1] - 28:18managing [3] -92:22, 128:12, 128:18mandatory [1] - 3:13manipulates [1] -53:13
manner [2] - 131:14,135:5manners [1] - 93:1March [1] - 11:16Martin [48] - 5:7,21:19, 35:16, 38:14,38:17, 39:3, 39:6,39:13, 40:11, 41:15,42:25, 50:20, 53:17,54:2, 54:5, 55:2,55:10, 55:15, 62:9,62:12, 62:18, 63:9,64:11, 64:16, 64:21,65:2, 65:11, 65:16,67:11, 74:11, 78:23,79:18, 79:25, 83:14,83:25, 84:1, 100:10,100:11, 100:12,103:20, 118:13,142:23Martin's [6] - 63:24,65:24, 74:10, 78:25,100:8, 118:9masterminds [1] -123:7Matt [2] - 14:3, 134:9matter [5] - 49:7,61:2, 61:13, 132:20,132:22matters [2] - 133:10,133:13Matthew [1] - 28:3Mayo [1] - 10:7mean [145] - 8:10,9:21, 13:5, 16:2, 16:3,16:5, 17:24, 20:2,21:5, 26:1, 26:2,26:14, 26:15, 28:4,29:19, 31:3, 32:18,33:19, 35:4, 35:16,36:6, 36:7, 37:10,37:17, 37:22, 38:9,41:9, 42:16, 44:11,46:13, 47:23, 50:9,51:9, 51:23, 53:16,53:20, 54:9, 54:23,55:21, 57:5, 58:6,58:20, 60:16, 60:24,61:2, 61:3, 62:21,63:22, 64:2, 66:18,66:25, 68:9, 71:6,71:7, 71:10, 72:4,73:6, 73:8, 73:16,73:19, 73:25, 75:13,76:13, 76:17, 77:8,78:24, 79:14, 80:9,81:11, 81:16, 81:19,82:24, 84:13, 85:2,85:22, 86:14, 87:19,90:12, 90:23, 91:20,
91:22, 92:1, 92:10,92:12, 92:24, 93:10,93:22, 94:3, 96:17,97:16, 100:14,101:11, 102:13,102:15, 103:18,104:6, 106:22,108:21, 110:19,111:25, 112:17,112:23, 113:10,116:22, 118:15,118:18, 119:4,119:16, 120:13,123:17, 123:23,124:7, 124:24,124:25, 125:1, 125:3,126:15, 128:22,129:2, 129:18, 130:1,133:5, 133:8, 134:16,137:6, 137:13, 138:3,138:14, 139:9,139:10, 139:12,139:13, 139:22,139:23, 140:19,141:8, 142:12, 143:3,143:15, 143:24,144:4, 144:6mean-spirited [1] -66:18mean-spiritedness
[1] - 73:25meaning [2] - 39:3,51:1meanness [1] -73:24means [3] - 2:5, 3:6,30:20medical [1] - 12:3meet [19] - 3:19,3:21, 3:22, 4:13, 4:15,4:16, 4:18, 28:22,36:4, 37:14, 38:4,38:5, 39:6, 41:17,42:8, 98:21, 98:23,99:1meeting [33] - 4:4,13:22, 18:15, 20:21,21:3, 21:4, 22:9, 24:6,24:7, 24:8, 25:2, 25:8,25:19, 25:24, 28:3,28:22, 29:8, 29:13,30:16, 31:1, 31:4,33:13, 34:21, 35:11,42:18, 50:20, 75:16,103:25, 135:7, 135:11meetings [4] - 20:9,24:5, 56:5, 135:8Melphine [4] -105:20, 106:25,107:6, 108:25
9
member [8] - 22:12,29:7, 33:14, 37:2,37:18, 90:17, 105:21members [5] - 23:21,23:22, 25:21, 37:18,132:21mention [5] - 109:19,123:9, 135:25,138:22, 139:13mentioned [2] - 74:1,135:4mentions [2] -102:17, 102:18message [1] - 39:10messing [1] - 9:11met [4] - 27:7, 74:8,99:3, 103:3Michigan [2] - 97:19,100:13Micky [7] - 56:7,57:16, 59:7, 59:21,60:18, 61:25, 72:11Micky's [1] - 7:8Middle [1] - 19:16middle [4] - 41:16,58:1, 98:22, 99:1might [7] - 11:8,37:3, 62:21, 79:12,86:8, 108:23, 140:19Mike [5] - 76:23,77:1, 77:3, 77:20military [1] - 106:11million [6] - 31:16,31:25, 32:10, 44:11,72:1, 73:16million-dollar [1] -73:16millions [1] - 99:17mind [4] - 18:7,119:20, 119:25,123:23Minneapolis [1] -91:1MINNESOTA [1] -145:2minute [6] - 40:15,60:4, 68:5, 69:8, 70:3,137:14minutes [3] - 32:8,33:7mis [1] - 9:22misdiagnosing [1] -9:20miserable [1] - 55:14Miss [2] - 3:17misses [1] - 20:25missing [1] - 117:16mission [1] - 130:25Mitch [4] - 55:11,101:19, 102:16,
103:19moaning [1] - 45:1model [2] - 85:12,85:14moderation [2] -39:25, 40:2modular [2] - 43:24,44:2mom [4] - 9:17,10:18, 10:20, 10:21moment [2] - 76:6,108:20Monday [6] - 59:9,60:8, 61:16, 111:12,114:4money [8] - 14:3,24:15, 29:10, 44:13,71:25, 76:15, 91:23,119:6monitoring [6] -58:22, 60:19, 74:15,90:24, 139:24, 141:5month [1] - 142:4months [4] - 46:23,53:1, 135:1, 135:9moreover [1] -133:24morning [9] - 3:6,38:19, 39:12, 40:12,42:6, 43:1, 126:19,129:13, 137:21most [2] - 88:2,94:14motherhood [1] -12:21motion [1] - 10:23motivated [1] - 78:22Mountain [1] - 127:5mouth [1] - 39:1mouthing [3] - 75:9,75:21, 75:22move [2] - 60:1,71:21moves [1] - 81:5MR [609] - 3:9, 3:15,3:24, 4:8, 4:20, 5:3,5:11, 5:16, 5:25, 6:5,6:8, 6:10, 6:12, 6:15,6:18, 6:21, 6:23, 6:25,7:7, 7:9, 7:12, 7:19,7:24, 8:3, 8:6, 8:9,8:13, 8:15, 9:3, 9:5,9:8, 9:10, 9:15, 9:23,10:8, 10:10, 10:17,11:1, 11:4, 11:14,11:18, 11:21, 12:1,12:6, 12:23, 13:2,13:5, 13:8, 13:13,13:15, 13:21, 13:25,14:6, 14:14, 14:16,
14:22, 15:3, 15:15,15:19, 15:22, 15:25,16:8, 16:14, 16:19,16:21, 16:24, 17:2,17:6, 17:16, 17:22,18:4, 18:6, 18:8,18:11, 18:20, 18:24,19:5, 19:7, 19:11,19:14, 19:19, 19:23,20:6, 20:18, 20:23,21:1, 21:9, 21:14,22:3, 22:15, 23:7,23:12, 23:24, 24:2,24:10, 24:20, 24:23,25:4, 25:10, 25:15,25:22, 26:9, 27:4,27:16, 27:20, 28:14,28:15, 29:1, 29:11,30:1, 30:21, 31:15,31:19, 31:21, 32:5,32:12, 32:23, 33:2,33:22, 33:25, 34:7,34:18, 35:2, 35:6,35:9, 36:1, 36:11,36:19, 37:6, 37:13,37:20, 38:2, 38:20,39:4, 39:21, 39:25,40:2, 40:5, 40:10,40:16, 41:3, 41:8,41:19, 41:24, 42:4,42:15, 42:19, 43:20,44:3, 44:5, 44:9,44:15, 44:18, 44:20,45:11, 45:15, 45:17,45:21, 46:1, 46:4,46:15, 46:24, 47:1,47:6, 47:11, 47:18,47:21, 47:24, 48:6,48:10, 48:16, 49:1,49:6, 49:11, 49:15,49:25, 50:6, 50:10,50:12, 50:14, 50:24,51:8, 51:14, 51:17,51:22, 52:2, 52:9,52:17, 52:22, 53:1,53:4, 53:9, 53:12,53:17, 53:21, 54:4,54:8, 54:11, 54:17,54:20, 54:22, 54:24,55:6, 55:9, 55:17,55:19, 55:22, 56:1,56:13, 56:24, 57:2,57:6, 57:10, 57:24,58:6, 58:8, 58:14,58:19, 58:24, 59:2,59:4, 59:15, 60:13,61:5, 61:10, 61:19,61:24, 62:5, 62:8,62:10, 62:14, 62:17,62:19, 62:23, 62:25,63:5, 63:7, 63:16,
64:5, 64:7, 64:24,65:4, 65:7, 65:19,65:25, 66:3, 66:7,66:10, 66:14, 66:17,66:20, 66:25, 67:4,67:9, 67:13, 67:18,67:24, 68:7, 68:21,68:23, 69:3, 69:6,69:18, 70:1, 70:4,71:3, 71:9, 71:11,71:18, 71:22, 72:1,72:4, 72:7, 72:15,72:20, 72:25, 73:2,73:5, 73:10, 73:13,73:18, 73:20, 73:23,74:1, 74:9, 75:1, 75:4,75:12, 76:2, 76:9,76:12, 76:17, 76:21,77:6, 77:10, 77:13,77:15, 77:19, 77:22,78:2, 78:5, 78:15,78:19, 79:2, 79:4,79:10, 79:16, 79:19,80:1, 80:3, 80:10,80:13, 81:9, 81:14,81:21, 82:8, 82:17,82:21, 83:1, 83:8,83:12, 83:22, 84:3,84:6, 84:9, 84:12,84:14, 84:17, 84:21,85:3, 85:7, 85:10,85:13, 85:23, 86:2,86:5, 86:10, 86:14,86:18, 86:21, 87:1,87:6, 87:15, 87:18,87:21, 88:1, 88:10,88:14, 88:16, 88:20,89:1, 89:4, 89:7,89:11, 89:14, 89:22,90:1, 90:4, 90:7,90:10, 90:18, 90:22,91:4, 91:7, 91:10,91:18, 91:20, 92:1,92:8, 92:13, 92:16,92:23, 92:25, 93:3,93:7, 93:14, 93:18,93:21, 93:24, 94:2,94:6, 94:9, 94:12,94:15, 94:18, 94:23,94:25, 95:5, 95:13,95:17, 95:21, 96:12,96:15, 96:17, 96:22,97:13, 97:18, 97:22,98:3, 98:24, 99:5,100:9, 101:5, 102:4,103:8, 103:14,103:21, 104:15,104:20, 105:1, 105:6,105:14, 105:18,105:24, 106:2, 106:7,106:12, 106:15,
106:20, 106:24,107:1, 107:3, 107:6,107:9, 107:11,107:15, 107:20,107:24, 108:2, 108:8,108:10, 108:14,108:16, 108:20,109:2, 109:5, 109:7,109:10, 109:13,109:17, 109:21,110:1, 110:5, 110:8,110:11, 110:13,110:18, 110:22,110:25, 111:8,111:14, 111:20,111:23, 112:2, 112:5,112:9, 112:13,112:16, 112:23,113:3, 113:5, 113:9,113:15, 113:20,113:24, 114:6,114:10, 114:12,114:14, 115:3, 115:5,115:9, 115:11,115:14, 115:18,115:20, 115:24,116:4, 116:9, 116:14,116:16, 116:18,116:22, 116:24,117:4, 117:7, 117:9,117:11, 117:14,117:16, 117:19,117:25, 118:2, 118:4,118:7, 118:10,118:14, 118:18,118:21, 119:2, 119:7,119:9, 119:14,119:16, 119:25,120:5, 120:9, 120:13,120:21, 120:24,121:1, 121:4, 121:6,121:8, 121:11,121:22, 122:8,122:11, 122:14,122:19, 122:23,123:2, 123:9, 123:18,124:6, 124:10,124:18, 124:20,124:23, 125:8,125:12, 125:20,125:23, 126:2,126:16, 126:21,126:24, 127:1, 127:3,127:9, 127:11,127:13, 127:15,127:19, 127:25,128:3, 128:9, 128:11,128:15, 128:23,129:1, 129:4, 129:7,129:14, 129:17,129:19, 129:22,
10
129:25, 130:10,130:13, 130:17,131:10, 131:13,132:17, 132:25,133:4, 133:7, 133:9,134:3, 135:18, 136:3,136:6, 136:14,136:16, 137:1, 137:9,137:11, 137:16,137:19, 137:23,138:2, 138:4, 138:8,138:13, 138:17,138:23, 139:3, 139:6,139:21, 140:3,140:10, 140:13,140:18, 140:21,141:6, 141:9, 141:13,141:19, 141:21,142:6, 142:8, 142:11,142:18, 142:21,143:2, 143:5, 143:7,143:22, 143:24MS [611] - 3:2, 3:10,3:17, 3:25, 4:9, 4:21,5:4, 5:14, 5:17, 6:1,6:6, 6:9, 6:11, 6:13,6:16, 6:19, 6:22, 6:24,7:1, 7:8, 7:10, 7:13,7:20, 7:25, 8:4, 8:7,8:11, 8:14, 9:2, 9:4,9:7, 9:9, 9:13, 9:16,9:24, 10:9, 10:11,10:18, 11:2, 11:5,11:15, 11:19, 11:22,12:2, 12:7, 12:15,12:17, 12:24, 13:3,13:6, 13:9, 13:14,13:16, 13:22, 14:1,14:7, 14:15, 14:17,14:23, 15:4, 15:16,15:20, 15:23, 16:1,16:9, 16:15, 16:20,16:22, 16:25, 17:3,17:7, 17:17, 17:23,18:5, 18:7, 18:9,18:12, 18:21, 18:25,19:6, 19:8, 19:12,19:15, 19:20, 19:24,20:7, 20:19, 20:24,21:2, 21:10, 21:15,22:4, 22:16, 23:8,23:13, 23:25, 24:3,24:11, 24:21, 24:24,25:5, 25:11, 25:16,25:23, 26:10, 27:5,27:17, 27:21, 29:2,29:12, 30:2, 30:22,31:16, 31:20, 31:22,32:6, 32:13, 32:24,33:3, 33:23, 34:1,34:8, 34:19, 35:3,
35:7, 35:10, 36:2,36:12, 36:20, 37:7,37:14, 37:21, 38:3,38:21, 39:5, 39:23,40:1, 40:3, 40:8,40:11, 40:17, 41:4,41:9, 41:20, 41:25,42:5, 42:16, 42:20,43:21, 44:4, 44:6,44:10, 44:16, 44:19,44:21, 45:12, 45:16,45:19, 45:22, 46:2,46:5, 46:16, 46:25,47:2, 47:7, 47:12,47:19, 47:22, 47:25,48:7, 48:12, 48:18,49:2, 49:9, 49:14,49:23, 50:5, 50:8,50:11, 50:13, 50:23,51:5, 51:9, 51:15,51:18, 51:23, 52:3,52:10, 52:18, 52:24,53:2, 53:5, 53:11,53:16, 53:19, 54:1,54:5, 54:9, 54:12,54:18, 54:21, 54:23,54:25, 55:7, 55:10,55:18, 55:20, 55:24,56:6, 56:14, 56:25,57:3, 57:7, 57:15,57:25, 58:7, 58:9,58:17, 58:20, 59:1,59:3, 59:5, 59:16,60:14, 61:6, 61:11,61:20, 61:25, 62:6,62:9, 62:11, 62:15,62:18, 62:20, 62:24,63:4, 63:6, 63:11,63:17, 64:6, 64:9,64:25, 65:5, 65:8,65:20, 66:1, 66:4,66:8, 66:12, 66:15,66:18, 66:21, 67:3,67:5, 67:10, 67:14,67:22, 67:25, 68:8,68:22, 68:24, 69:4,69:7, 69:19, 70:2,71:2, 71:4, 71:10,71:12, 71:19, 71:23,72:2, 72:5, 72:11,72:16, 72:21, 73:1,73:4, 73:6, 73:11,73:14, 73:19, 73:21,73:24, 74:4, 74:10,75:2, 75:5, 75:13,76:7, 76:10, 76:14,76:20, 76:25, 77:8,77:11, 77:14, 77:16,77:20, 77:24, 78:3,78:9, 78:17, 78:20,79:3, 79:5, 79:12,
79:17, 79:20, 80:2,80:4, 80:11, 80:14,81:10, 81:15, 81:22,82:9, 82:18, 82:23,83:2, 83:9, 83:13,83:23, 84:4, 84:7,84:10, 84:13, 84:15,84:18, 84:22, 85:4,85:8, 85:11, 85:14,85:24, 86:3, 86:6,86:11, 86:15, 86:19,86:22, 87:5, 87:14,87:16, 87:19, 87:25,88:9, 88:13, 88:15,88:19, 88:24, 89:2,89:6, 89:10, 89:13,89:20, 89:23, 90:2,90:6, 90:8, 90:11,90:19, 90:25, 91:5,91:9, 91:12, 91:19,91:21, 92:5, 92:9,92:14, 92:17, 92:24,93:1, 93:4, 93:8,93:15, 93:19, 93:22,94:1, 94:3, 94:8,94:10, 94:13, 94:16,94:20, 94:24, 95:1,95:9, 95:14, 95:20,95:25, 96:13, 96:16,96:19, 96:23, 97:14,97:19, 97:23, 98:4,98:25, 99:6, 100:10,101:6, 102:5, 103:9,103:15, 103:22,104:16, 104:21,105:2, 105:7, 105:15,105:19, 105:25,106:3, 106:9, 106:13,106:16, 106:21,106:25, 107:2, 107:4,107:7, 107:10,107:12, 107:16,107:22, 107:25,108:7, 108:9, 108:11,108:15, 108:17,108:23, 109:3, 109:6,109:8, 109:11,109:15, 109:18,109:22, 110:3, 110:6,110:10, 110:12,110:14, 110:19,110:24, 111:3, 111:9,111:15, 111:22,111:24, 112:3, 112:6,112:10, 112:14,112:17, 113:1, 113:4,113:6, 113:12,113:19, 113:21,114:2, 114:7, 114:11,114:13, 114:15,115:2, 115:4, 115:7,
115:10, 115:12,115:15, 115:19,115:22, 115:25,116:7, 116:12,116:15, 116:17,116:20, 116:23,117:2, 117:5, 117:8,117:10, 117:13,117:15, 117:18,117:22, 118:1, 118:3,118:6, 118:9, 118:13,118:16, 118:19,118:22, 119:4, 119:8,119:11, 119:15,119:24, 120:1, 120:6,120:10, 120:17,120:22, 120:25,121:2, 121:5, 121:7,121:9, 121:13,121:23, 122:9,122:12, 122:15,122:20, 122:24,123:3, 123:12,123:19, 124:7,124:11, 124:19,124:22, 124:24,125:9, 125:13,125:21, 125:25,126:3, 126:17,126:22, 126:25,127:2, 127:6, 127:10,127:12, 127:14,127:17, 127:22,128:1, 128:4, 128:10,128:12, 128:16,128:24, 129:2, 129:5,129:8, 129:15,129:18, 129:20,129:23, 130:1,130:12, 130:15,130:18, 131:11,131:14, 132:18,133:1, 133:5, 133:8,133:10, 134:4,135:19, 136:4, 136:9,136:15, 136:17,137:2, 137:10,137:12, 137:17,137:20, 137:24,138:3, 138:6, 138:9,138:14, 138:18,138:24, 139:5, 139:8,139:22, 140:4,140:11, 140:14,140:19, 140:22,141:7, 141:10,141:14, 141:20,141:24, 142:7, 142:9,142:12, 142:19,142:22, 143:3, 143:6,143:8, 143:23, 143:25
muck [1] - 15:7muckety [1] - 15:7muckety-muck [1] -15:7multimillion [1] -41:6multimillion-dollar
[1] - 41:6must [5] - 5:14, 27:9,104:9, 126:4, 135:11muster [1] - 11:20MY [1] - 145:19
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nah [1] - 136:10nail [1] - 90:21name [27] - 3:12,18:7, 21:19, 21:20,23:4, 23:5, 23:6,23:23, 28:11, 36:16,45:3, 50:3, 61:23,63:22, 68:4, 69:1,76:25, 77:11, 84:15,92:14, 96:4, 105:7,106:24, 109:19,114:1, 118:4, 134:13Names [1] - 2:8names [1] - 86:12National [1] - 37:9national [7] - 11:9,13:18, 50:9, 50:10,117:14, 128:13,128:17nattily [1] - 21:11naturally [1] - 63:8NCED [2] - 96:6, 96:7NCED/ReadyOne [1]- 97:6NCSE [1] - 97:9NCWC [1] - 97:9near [3] - 49:8,49:13, 87:10necessarily [2] -55:4, 111:17necessary [1] -17:12need [63] - 4:1, 6:7,8:13, 10:24, 14:25,15:13, 17:14, 25:24,25:25, 26:5, 26:19,26:21, 26:25, 29:5,29:22, 29:24, 30:9,30:24, 35:19, 36:3,37:4, 37:22, 38:3,38:4, 38:5, 38:13,45:9, 47:2, 47:5,57:20, 59:8, 59:11,59:12, 60:5, 60:6,60:19, 61:16, 67:23,
11
72:16, 74:20, 74:21,86:6, 86:7, 86:11,86:12, 86:20, 86:22,91:14, 91:15, 96:2,101:25, 118:25,119:4, 122:3, 132:4,137:18, 142:9needed [3] - 15:17,17:25, 40:19needing [1] - 113:4needs [3] - 10:1,47:7, 126:20nerve [3] - 9:19,9:25, 10:3neurologists [1] -10:13never [13] - 3:22,4:11, 16:9, 39:2, 45:9,56:18, 80:6, 80:14,81:22, 83:25, 101:1,103:3, 121:15nevertheless [2] -17:7new [4] - 3:10, 3:16,7:1, 69:9next [9] - 20:20,24:25, 28:2, 33:12,49:21, 64:12, 74:6,96:6, 122:5NGA [11] - 5:10,6:11, 6:14, 37:9, 38:1,39:15, 49:7, 49:20,73:11, 87:10, 117:11nice [5] - 26:15,32:17, 91:17, 119:11,141:25night [4] - 37:5,38:16, 39:11, 115:10nights [1] - 36:5nine [5] - 18:19,46:23, 80:8, 111:1,111:2NISH [25] - 26:13,27:17, 29:6, 32:24,38:7, 74:6, 76:24,77:4, 77:23, 80:16,80:17, 81:4, 81:17,85:11, 88:6, 88:7,89:14, 97:7, 100:7,105:25, 106:14,128:2, 128:21,129:10, 129:23NISH's [2] - 33:18,53:24nobody [2] - 43:3,44:16Nobody [1] - 95:15noise [3] - 18:2,43:9, 52:3nominated [1] -
11:10nominating [1] -11:12nondisclosure [5] -101:16, 101:18,101:21, 101:23,134:19none [1] - 56:22nonprofit [1] - 53:23nonsense [1] -143:12normal [3] - 15:1,61:23, 92:2normally [1] - 56:16Northcentral [4] -74:7, 77:24, 79:14,100:11Northwest [1] -79:15not-for-profit [1] -116:8Notary [1] - 145:24note [1] - 129:12notes [1] - 135:6Notes [1] - 145:10NOTES [1] - 2:1nothing [15] - 16:11,33:9, 36:6, 37:4, 76:2,81:3, 104:4, 104:6,112:23, 112:25,136:3, 137:5, 137:7notice [8] - 47:4,49:16, 52:7, 116:12,142:4, 142:10,142:15, 143:1notified [2] - 74:18,74:19notifying [1] - 60:10notwithstanding [1]- 134:21NTI [1] - 6:22number [9] - 52:20,55:12, 62:12, 66:11,97:15, 97:16, 100:8,100:18, 123:17numbers [2] - 93:10,94:16numerous [1] -134:8
O
o'clock [4] - 3:5,35:14, 35:16, 38:19objective [1] - 78:25obvious [4] - 22:10,34:11, 44:10, 93:20obviously [6] - 5:13,13:10, 44:7, 45:10,82:3, 128:5
occurred [1] - 80:24October [3] - 142:10,142:15, 143:1OF [3] - 145:1, 145:2,145:3offended [1] - 4:4office [9] - 20:5,20:17, 24:18, 50:3,50:7, 50:9, 67:2, 81:1,118:5officer [4] - 89:15,89:17, 108:22, 113:10officers [1] - 88:6offshoot [1] - 49:3often [1] - 20:3OIG [3] - 118:25,139:11, 144:4OIP [1] - 80:15old [3] - 12:19, 68:4,120:11Olynyk [2] - 1:24,145:24Omar [4] - 122:24,126:4, 133:19, 134:7once [2] - 6:2,112:10one [86] - 5:20, 7:5,7:7, 7:19, 13:23,14:18, 15:7, 15:16,16:10, 19:1, 20:1,20:22, 20:24, 21:6,29:4, 31:17, 37:18,37:23, 38:15, 44:2,45:12, 45:14, 46:21,49:10, 49:11, 49:16,49:24, 50:6, 50:8,51:1, 51:3, 51:25,52:3, 53:7, 55:12,57:8, 57:11, 57:12,57:15, 62:12, 68:24,70:3, 71:6, 71:7,72:11, 76:3, 76:4,76:23, 79:12, 83:3,83:9, 84:22, 86:13,87:14, 88:5, 93:8,95:17, 95:18, 95:22,95:25, 96:5, 97:15,97:16, 100:8, 100:18,105:8, 108:24,110:16, 113:6, 115:8,115:21, 117:17,118:7, 120:4, 123:9,123:17, 125:5,130:10, 135:8,135:21, 140:5, 141:17ones [2] - 41:13,95:22ongoing [1] - 27:24open [3] - 28:19,52:14, 91:16
opened [1] - 92:2openly [1] - 63:2operates [1] - 90:20operations [2] -83:11, 83:17opinion [1] - 94:20opportunities [1] -130:25opportunity [4] - 7:4,7:5, 47:4, 91:23opposing [1] - 134:5opposite [1] - 125:6Opps [1] - 89:9ops [2] - 74:14,74:23opt [1] - 143:10opted [6] - 48:13,62:4, 62:5, 79:23,138:5, 140:8opter [1] - 62:12opting [1] - 123:6option [2] - 89:16,89:19opum [1] - 128:6opus [1] - 128:6order [2] - 46:6,52:14ordered [1] - 138:15orders [2] - 66:22,66:23organization [8] -46:8, 46:9, 47:7,47:13, 52:12, 113:23,131:5, 131:25organization's [1] -130:24organizational [1] -47:15organizations [1] -47:22orientation [1] - 3:2originally [1] - 68:25otherwise [1] - 21:22ought [3] - 7:21,20:16, 32:2outcome [1] - 145:15outside [3] - 4:14,65:1, 65:22overcome [1] -120:14overnight [1] -120:16oversee [1] - 74:21oversight [3] - 57:9,57:13, 104:23overturn [1] - 98:21own [8] - 26:2, 26:24,27:2, 27:3, 67:2, 67:7,81:3, 106:14owned [5] - 17:19,
19:13, 19:20, 21:13,22:5
P
packaged [1] - 68:22page [1] - 145:11Pages [4] - 1:9, 1:10,1:11, 1:12Pagliarello [1] -75:19Pagliarulo [3] -118:2, 118:4, 118:5pain [1] - 10:19paper [6] - 16:3,19:8, 28:13, 58:14,59:7, 60:6paperwork [5] -60:16, 60:21, 61:13,113:4, 114:5parade [1] - 68:12parent [1] - 115:25parenthetical [1] -2:5parents [1] - 12:22part [25] - 33:19,33:20, 41:23, 42:1,48:19, 55:21, 61:25,62:4, 64:4, 67:19,71:19, 71:20, 72:5,79:21, 84:22, 84:24,85:10, 95:7, 97:9,101:14, 104:24,119:20, 123:15,125:4, 142:13partially [1] - 121:14participate [1] - 87:8particular [1] - 46:14parties [2] - 145:13,145:14partner [7] - 19:16,22:6, 23:9, 23:15,68:25, 91:21, 92:11partner/general [1] -128:12partners [3] - 22:8,22:9, 128:18parts [1] - 40:5party [2] - 44:22,145:14Paso [1] - 97:5passed [3] - 16:7,23:14, 44:24passing [1] - 128:24password [1] -129:10past [2] - 86:23,113:16Paula [2] - 134:5,134:12
12
paying [2] - 37:1,56:21Peckham [15] - 6:24,55:1, 55:11, 96:6,97:3, 97:4, 97:18,97:21, 97:24, 98:6,98:13, 99:11, 101:1,103:19, 116:25peep [1] - 50:25peers [1] - 11:10people [67] - 10:14,10:20, 11:22, 12:18,15:17, 18:1, 21:20,22:7, 26:7, 28:6, 28:9,28:18, 29:9, 32:17,34:2, 34:5, 34:6,34:11, 36:25, 47:16,47:20, 48:23, 48:24,52:10, 56:7, 65:10,71:2, 74:15, 75:19,80:22, 85:16, 85:18,92:11, 93:16, 95:2,97:1, 97:2, 97:5, 97:6,97:11, 98:7, 98:10,98:13, 99:1, 99:12,99:13, 99:18, 99:19,99:21, 100:1, 100:19,100:22, 101:7,102:19, 111:4, 111:5,116:11, 118:17,123:6, 123:10,123:14, 123:20,124:2, 131:1, 135:3people's [1] - 52:5per [1] - 27:19percentage [1] -26:23Perez [1] - 133:19performance [2] -86:23, 113:17perpetrator [1] -111:1perplexed [1] - 76:3Perry [1] - 135:15person [8] - 74:8,77:21, 77:22, 96:1,100:3, 113:23,121:19, 141:17personal [1] - 131:6personally [8] - 88:5,88:22, 131:17,131:24, 132:22,135:9, 136:6, 136:18Petco [2] - 134:18,134:20Peter [1] - 34:2Peterson [1] - 127:3Ph.D [1] - 96:4phase [1] - 86:19phone [6] - 5:7,
39:12, 56:9, 80:19,80:21, 82:1phonetically [1] - 2:9picked [4] - 11:15,123:21, 123:22, 124:3piece [1] - 51:12pilot [2] - 17:20, 34:4pinched [3] - 9:19,9:25, 10:3pissed [1] - 96:25pisses [1] - 29:16place [1] - 44:4placed [1] - 132:7places [1] - 44:7placing [2] - 29:9,36:25plan [7] - 31:6,31:14, 32:1, 33:14,69:20, 78:21, 139:19plane [1] - 61:15play [3] - 56:8, 66:6,91:24played [2] - 63:13,132:1playing [2] - 107:14,122:13pocket [1] - 85:21point [12] - 48:15,65:23, 73:25, 83:21,86:16, 93:12, 97:17,110:10, 122:17,128:24, 134:25,143:14pointed [1] - 141:11poison [1] - 25:13policy [1] - 17:10political [1] - 103:16pollination [1] -99:22pool [2] - 47:19, 92:6poor [2] - 24:8,118:14Portco [2] - 102:18,136:1Portco's [1] - 139:24portrays [1] - 83:2position [7] - 66:23,77:13, 84:11, 127:16,131:24, 132:7, 134:1positioning [1] -69:22positions [2] - 49:2,131:3possible [4] -113:12, 113:16, 119:3potential [2] - 71:13,131:4Potomac [1] - 49:21pound [1] - 78:25pour [1] - 17:14
power [2] - 54:16,63:18powering [1] - 10:19practice [1] - 17:11practices [1] -131:12praised [1] - 63:25preached [1] -119:23presence [5] - 59:18,61:1, 61:9, 72:12,72:24present [5] - 49:12,49:17, 117:20, 132:11presentation [4] -21:12, 21:23, 22:16,22:23presenting [1] -30:16president [2] - 54:6,131:25press [1] - 12:8pretending [1] - 85:1pretty [29] - 9:9,11:23, 12:14, 15:6,15:8, 23:19, 26:23,26:25, 48:9, 55:14,71:7, 71:19, 82:16,90:8, 90:11, 90:13,100:21, 103:16,104:9, 104:10, 105:2,105:9, 105:16, 106:5,109:8, 109:23,110:21, 113:8, 115:5previous [1] - 4:11PRIDE [16] - 13:11,40:14, 40:18, 40:19,40:22, 41:1, 41:2,41:5, 44:18, 44:19,44:24, 45:13, 51:10,71:5, 138:19, 143:18private [1] - 20:11privately [1] - 18:15privileged [1] - 131:3problem [18] - 15:12,21:18, 29:21, 30:3,30:12, 30:13, 34:12,36:8, 43:7, 43:8,43:14, 60:10, 62:2,74:5, 104:17, 104:25,127:1, 132:18problematic [4] -28:24, 30:9, 37:3,137:6process [14] - 5:2,7:1, 63:21, 64:4, 64:8,65:11, 84:24, 86:8,98:23, 99:2, 102:20,103:13, 104:23,139:25
procurement [3] -85:16, 85:17, 95:12products [1] - 100:5profit [5] - 68:2,68:15, 116:7, 116:8,116:10program [12] - 22:20,40:21, 43:22, 44:14,45:25, 68:17, 95:14,95:16, 100:3, 101:22,106:14, 143:24program's [1] -97:15progress [1] - 57:19project [48] - 17:20,28:18, 31:5, 31:12,31:25, 34:4, 37:9,38:10, 38:23, 39:9,39:15, 41:21, 43:21,45:9, 46:14, 47:8,47:10, 49:8, 50:22,51:23, 51:25, 52:19,57:11, 57:12, 59:25,63:3, 63:8, 63:24,72:8, 73:16, 75:3,75:4, 76:3, 76:18,78:18, 86:25, 87:6,87:10, 88:1, 88:8,88:17, 95:6, 97:3,97:4, 109:12, 117:11,139:17, 143:18projects [17] - 13:11,41:6, 44:24, 45:9,47:3, 49:5, 56:20,91:17, 91:23, 93:6,94:19, 99:24, 100:5,106:13, 111:11,113:18, 119:8promised [1] - 58:4proof [2] - 99:13,99:15proper [1] - 101:10properly [1] - 27:18proposal [6] - 59:12,59:13, 59:24, 59:25,113:7, 140:7proposals [1] - 60:20protecting [1] -131:2protection [1] -131:4protesting [1] -105:9prove [10] - 67:22,80:9, 81:6, 81:16,81:23, 82:11, 82:12,89:25, 104:19proves [1] - 134:23provided [1] - 2:3provisions [1] -
145:10prudent [1] - 91:10psychological [1] -127:19psychologist [2] -62:17, 63:1psychology [2] -63:19, 66:5Public [1] - 145:24public [1] - 99:9publicly [1] - 25:6Puerto [12] - 7:17,57:11, 57:12, 59:6,59:18, 59:23, 71:25,72:8, 72:13, 72:17,72:24, 112:23pull [2] - 95:10,95:11pulled [1] - 42:17purchase [1] -134:12pure [1] - 98:8purpose [1] - 11:6purposely [2] -35:16, 64:13push [5] - 57:20,59:8, 61:16, 91:3,111:16pushing [1] - 60:1put [27] - 18:12,25:13, 27:25, 28:24,32:18, 35:14, 35:22,39:20, 39:23, 43:22,44:14, 45:6, 46:16,49:15, 56:2, 67:7,67:12, 68:17, 98:14,105:7, 106:14, 113:7,125:10, 128:19,137:15, 141:3puts [1] - 125:18putting [2] - 40:8,92:24
Q
qualified [3] - 60:24,93:16, 94:21questioning [1] -80:19questions [8] -26:22, 46:6, 56:14,58:23, 114:7, 121:16,125:2, 141:11quick [2] - 104:10,126:8quicker [1] - 143:14quiet [2] - 25:16,82:10quieter [1] - 82:13quietly [1] - 57:4
13
quite [3] - 42:6, 53:7,105:12quotidian [2] - 131:7,131:12
R
radar [6] - 52:5, 87:9,87:13, 108:3, 108:7,117:17raining [1] - 68:11raise [1] - 99:15raised [1] - 134:4rampage [1] - 102:25ran [1] - 5:20range [1] - 10:22rating [1] - 89:19reach [1] - 132:22read [7] - 13:19,60:21, 114:8, 122:3,127:23, 127:24,132:16reading [1] - 130:15reads [1] - 119:17ready [4] - 49:12,49:17, 51:2, 117:20ReadyOne [2] - 96:6,96:7real [14] - 22:22,23:20, 24:19, 30:20,30:23, 32:15, 91:23,126:8, 134:15,134:16, 136:15,144:12realize [7] - 48:20,65:3, 65:5, 74:13,74:15, 82:24, 83:5realizing [1] - 32:6really [59] - 3:11, 5:2,10:7, 12:18, 14:9,17:12, 21:22, 23:22,26:11, 26:18, 27:2,27:6, 27:18, 28:7,28:8, 28:11, 29:2,30:8, 30:24, 32:19,33:9, 33:10, 35:4,36:22, 37:11, 42:8,43:3, 43:5, 44:25,50:19, 54:12, 57:8,57:19, 58:21, 58:22,59:21, 62:17, 67:17,69:19, 81:22, 82:9,82:10, 85:4, 85:16,97:11, 98:6, 100:1,100:18, 101:6,102:15, 105:17,119:4, 123:6, 123:8,134:24, 137:4, 140:8,144:12reappointing [1] -
18:22rear [1] - 118:25reason [9] - 32:15,33:10, 44:24, 83:15,95:3, 95:7, 95:10,100:4, 127:22reasons [4] - 32:18,38:15, 94:21, 95:3receive [1] - 133:22receiving [2] - 29:9,29:10recently [3] - 16:7,44:25, 119:19recommendation [1]- 58:12recommended [2] -133:21, 133:25recommending [2] -143:20, 144:1reconvene [1] -87:22record [5] - 29:3,32:18, 101:17, 125:21recordings [2] - 2:3,145:6red [1] - 29:23Redbox [1] - 11:25redo [1] - 125:2refer [2] - 133:11,133:13referred [1] - 56:23reflecting [1] -119:19reflection [1] - 130:3regard [2] - 55:25,134:10regarding [6] -29:15, 131:18,131:21, 134:9,136:19, 136:23regards [2] - 88:10,132:23region [6] - 7:8, 26:8,28:6, 54:7, 55:8,77:25regions [3] - 56:4,75:10, 75:18regular [1] - 113:10reinforce [1] - 132:4related [4] - 6:11,26:3, 145:12, 145:15relationship [5] -27:17, 29:25, 38:7,133:18, 135:15relative [3] - 131:22,136:23, 145:13religion [4] - 31:20,33:5, 33:6, 79:24reluctance [2] -132:3
rely [2] - 80:24, 84:1relying [2] - 83:25,84:4remember [16] -22:11, 32:3, 37:24,43:18, 44:12, 58:11,58:15, 61:23, 80:23,88:24, 89:3, 95:5,95:19, 138:17remind [4] - 6:6,7:20, 57:22, 88:20reminds [1] - 43:18rendered [1] - 132:7renders [1] - 135:15renewing [1] - 143:4replacement [1] -10:2report [4] - 58:15,64:3, 98:14, 98:15REPORTER [1] -145:1represent [1] - 132:8represents [1] -100:6reprimand [1] -133:22requesting [1] -46:19requirement [2] -46:17, 48:24research [6] - 69:11,69:16, 99:16, 99:24,115:17, 116:2resign [3] - 37:16,131:16, 132:2resignation [2] -130:6, 132:20resigned [1] - 106:22resigning [3] -120:18, 121:6, 137:3resolution [2] -64:19, 124:8Resource [1] - 51:13resource [1] - 85:20resources [3] -133:15, 134:9, 134:11Resources [1] -51:11response [1] - 60:20responsibilities [3] -66:10, 130:20, 130:23responsibility [1] -132:6responsible [1] -104:23rest [7] - 45:2, 49:4,56:7, 79:23, 82:5,83:6, 106:4result [2] - 83:17,130:5
retaliating [1] -112:14retaliation [4] -111:17, 112:4,135:20, 144:11retirement [1] -69:20revamping [2] - 64:7,64:8revenue [5] - 26:24,41:25, 55:12, 97:16,100:7review [2] - 60:5,65:10revised [1] - 63:21revisions [1] - 85:2rhetorical [1] - 48:13Rhett [2] - 50:11,50:13Rhonda [2] - 1:24,145:24Rick [3] - 79:14,117:2, 117:24Rico [12] - 7:17,57:11, 57:12, 59:6,59:18, 59:23, 71:25,72:8, 72:13, 72:17,72:24, 112:24ridiculous [2] - 34:9,102:1rings [1] - 39:13risk [4] - 15:10, 16:4,131:5, 134:22Robinson [5] - 2:4,131:17, 132:20,135:4, 136:19ROBINSON [612] -3:2, 3:10, 3:17, 3:25,4:9, 4:21, 5:4, 5:14,5:17, 6:1, 6:6, 6:9,6:11, 6:13, 6:16, 6:19,6:22, 6:24, 7:1, 7:8,7:10, 7:13, 7:20, 7:25,8:4, 8:7, 8:11, 8:14,9:2, 9:4, 9:7, 9:9,9:13, 9:16, 9:24, 10:9,10:11, 10:18, 11:2,11:5, 11:15, 11:19,11:22, 12:2, 12:7,12:15, 12:17, 12:24,13:3, 13:6, 13:9,13:14, 13:16, 13:22,14:1, 14:7, 14:15,14:17, 14:23, 15:4,15:16, 15:20, 15:23,16:1, 16:9, 16:15,16:20, 16:22, 16:25,17:3, 17:7, 17:17,17:23, 18:5, 18:7,18:9, 18:12, 18:21,
18:25, 19:6, 19:8,19:12, 19:15, 19:20,19:24, 20:7, 20:19,20:24, 21:2, 21:10,21:15, 22:4, 22:16,23:8, 23:13, 23:25,24:3, 24:11, 24:21,24:24, 25:5, 25:11,25:16, 25:23, 26:10,27:5, 27:17, 27:21,28:15, 29:2, 29:12,30:2, 30:22, 31:16,31:20, 31:22, 32:6,32:13, 32:24, 33:3,33:23, 34:1, 34:8,34:19, 35:3, 35:7,35:10, 36:2, 36:12,36:20, 37:7, 37:14,37:21, 38:3, 38:21,39:5, 39:23, 40:1,40:3, 40:8, 40:11,40:17, 41:4, 41:9,41:20, 41:25, 42:5,42:16, 42:20, 43:21,44:4, 44:6, 44:10,44:16, 44:19, 44:21,45:12, 45:16, 45:19,45:22, 46:2, 46:5,46:16, 46:25, 47:2,47:7, 47:12, 47:19,47:22, 47:25, 48:7,48:12, 48:18, 49:2,49:9, 49:14, 49:23,50:5, 50:8, 50:11,50:13, 50:23, 51:5,51:9, 51:15, 51:18,51:23, 52:3, 52:10,52:18, 52:24, 53:2,53:5, 53:11, 53:16,53:19, 54:1, 54:5,54:9, 54:12, 54:18,54:21, 54:23, 54:25,55:7, 55:10, 55:18,55:20, 55:24, 56:6,56:14, 56:25, 57:3,57:7, 57:15, 57:25,58:7, 58:9, 58:17,58:20, 59:1, 59:3,59:5, 59:16, 60:14,61:6, 61:11, 61:20,61:25, 62:6, 62:9,62:11, 62:15, 62:18,62:20, 62:24, 63:4,63:6, 63:11, 63:17,64:6, 64:9, 64:25,65:5, 65:8, 65:20,66:1, 66:4, 66:8,66:12, 66:15, 66:18,66:21, 67:3, 67:5,67:10, 67:14, 67:22,67:25, 68:8, 68:22,
14
68:24, 69:4, 69:7,69:19, 70:2, 71:2,71:4, 71:10, 71:12,71:19, 71:23, 72:2,72:5, 72:11, 72:16,72:21, 73:1, 73:4,73:6, 73:11, 73:14,73:19, 73:21, 73:24,74:4, 74:10, 75:2,75:5, 75:13, 76:7,76:10, 76:14, 76:20,76:25, 77:8, 77:11,77:14, 77:16, 77:20,77:24, 78:3, 78:9,78:17, 78:20, 79:3,79:5, 79:12, 79:17,79:20, 80:2, 80:4,80:11, 80:14, 81:10,81:15, 81:22, 82:9,82:18, 82:23, 83:2,83:9, 83:13, 83:23,84:4, 84:7, 84:10,84:13, 84:15, 84:18,84:22, 85:4, 85:8,85:11, 85:14, 85:24,86:3, 86:6, 86:11,86:15, 86:19, 86:22,87:5, 87:14, 87:16,87:19, 87:25, 88:9,88:13, 88:15, 88:19,88:24, 89:2, 89:6,89:10, 89:13, 89:20,89:23, 90:2, 90:6,90:8, 90:11, 90:19,90:25, 91:5, 91:9,91:12, 91:19, 91:21,92:5, 92:9, 92:14,92:17, 92:24, 93:1,93:4, 93:8, 93:15,93:19, 93:22, 94:1,94:3, 94:8, 94:10,94:13, 94:16, 94:20,94:24, 95:1, 95:9,95:14, 95:20, 95:25,96:13, 96:16, 96:19,96:23, 97:14, 97:19,97:23, 98:4, 98:25,99:6, 100:10, 101:6,102:5, 103:9, 103:15,103:22, 104:16,104:21, 105:2, 105:7,105:15, 105:19,105:25, 106:3, 106:9,106:13, 106:16,106:21, 106:25,107:2, 107:4, 107:7,107:10, 107:12,107:16, 107:22,107:25, 108:7, 108:9,108:11, 108:15,108:17, 108:23,
109:3, 109:6, 109:8,109:11, 109:15,109:18, 109:22,110:3, 110:6, 110:10,110:12, 110:14,110:19, 110:24,111:3, 111:9, 111:15,111:22, 111:24,112:3, 112:6, 112:10,112:14, 112:17,113:1, 113:4, 113:6,113:12, 113:19,113:21, 114:2, 114:7,114:11, 114:13,114:15, 115:2, 115:4,115:7, 115:10,115:12, 115:15,115:19, 115:22,115:25, 116:7,116:12, 116:15,116:17, 116:20,116:23, 117:2, 117:5,117:8, 117:10,117:13, 117:15,117:18, 117:22,118:1, 118:3, 118:6,118:9, 118:13,118:16, 118:19,118:22, 119:4, 119:8,119:11, 119:15,119:24, 120:1, 120:6,120:10, 120:17,120:22, 120:25,121:2, 121:5, 121:7,121:9, 121:13,121:23, 122:9,122:12, 122:15,122:20, 122:24,123:3, 123:12,123:19, 124:7,124:11, 124:19,124:22, 124:24,125:9, 125:13,125:21, 125:25,126:3, 126:17,126:22, 126:25,127:2, 127:6, 127:10,127:12, 127:14,127:17, 127:22,128:1, 128:4, 128:10,128:12, 128:16,128:24, 129:2, 129:5,129:8, 129:15,129:18, 129:20,129:23, 130:1,130:12, 130:15,130:18, 131:11,131:14, 132:18,133:1, 133:5, 133:8,133:10, 134:4,135:19, 136:4, 136:9,
136:15, 136:17,137:2, 137:10,137:12, 137:17,137:20, 137:24,138:3, 138:6, 138:9,138:14, 138:18,138:24, 139:5, 139:8,139:22, 140:4,140:11, 140:14,140:19, 140:22,141:7, 141:10,141:14, 141:20,141:24, 142:7, 142:9,142:12, 142:19,142:22, 143:3, 143:6,143:8, 143:23, 143:25Rock [1] - 32:4role [5] - 36:8, 36:12,77:20, 131:25, 132:14rolled [1] - 63:19room [4] - 4:5, 9:12,80:20, 82:1roost [1] - 102:9rose [1] - 35:12rotator [1] - 10:2round [2] - 94:16,95:24routine [1] - 134:11rubber [2] - 58:18,58:23rubber-stamp [2] -58:18, 58:23Ruben [11] - 2:4,13:6, 46:20, 47:13,61:8, 63:2, 74:13,112:22, 115:3, 138:10rules [2] - 83:19,101:23run [5] - 69:13,69:23, 72:8, 85:25,124:4
S
SAIC [5] - 14:18,15:7, 15:8, 16:5,45:20Sally [2] - 62:1,105:17San [2] - 89:9,116:25saw [1] - 10:20Scanlon's [2] -134:6, 134:12scared [1] - 88:12scenes [2] - 20:9,83:5scheme [3] - 17:18,69:21, 136:13school [5] - 12:11,
32:11, 126:9, 126:17,130:14scoop [1] - 103:2Scorsini [3] - 95:21,122:9, 127:6SCOTT [1] - 145:3Scott [1] - 145:24screen [3] - 47:3,52:5, 81:12screening [3] -52:15, 71:13, 91:25screw [1] - 92:22scrub [1] - 101:8se [1] - 27:19SEAL [1] - 145:19Sears [1] - 11:24second [3] - 5:22,130:10, 130:11secret [22] - 40:20,41:13, 43:10, 43:13,43:14, 44:8, 45:18,46:7, 46:8, 46:9,46:10, 47:5, 47:15,48:15, 48:25, 51:2,52:8, 53:2, 56:17,92:12, 92:15, 119:22Security [3] - 89:8,97:3, 99:19security [1] - 5:13see [57] - 7:2, 8:1,9:16, 16:22, 20:3,39:19, 55:6, 55:9,56:6, 59:7, 59:11,59:12, 66:1, 67:5,73:2, 74:13, 79:8,79:19, 92:17, 101:5,101:9, 103:14,106:12, 108:11,112:19, 117:7,121:23, 126:7, 127:7,128:5, 128:15, 129:1,129:10, 129:11,132:3, 133:2, 133:8,134:14, 134:17,134:25, 135:22,136:10, 136:11,139:1, 139:4, 139:12,140:12, 140:16,141:11, 143:12,143:13, 143:14, 144:9seeing [1] - 19:21seem [6] - 20:17,22:19, 31:2, 42:11,79:17, 79:22seeming [3] - 132:2,132:3sees [3] - 24:12,121:12, 136:7select [1] - 72:23selected [3] - 38:23,
46:22, 113:25selection [1] - 86:16semi [1] - 92:2semi-normal [1] -92:2Senators [2] - 98:15,104:9send [6] - 59:9,65:15, 114:5, 126:17,127:24, 129:12sends [3] - 128:2,129:21, 129:23senior [2] - 3:13,28:3sense [4] - 7:14,22:14, 32:18, 79:11sent [8] - 60:7, 60:9,101:14, 122:3,129:14, 137:25,143:17, 144:12sentencing [1] -75:20September [3] -130:7, 137:13, 145:20serious [1] - 108:10serve [1] - 130:4services [1] - 100:5ServiceSource [25] -13:12, 37:10, 38:8,38:9, 38:10, 38:22,38:25, 40:14, 40:18,40:19, 40:22, 41:10,41:11, 41:21, 42:23,43:4, 44:18, 44:19,45:12, 51:11, 51:13,51:24, 55:1, 71:5serving [10] - 97:6,97:11, 98:7, 98:10,98:13, 99:11, 99:13,99:21, 100:18, 101:6session [3] - 14:2,14:5, 57:16set [8] - 43:24, 44:4,47:9, 65:2, 68:14,84:5, 123:25, 124:1sets [1] - 52:24setting [1] - 112:8settle [1] - 19:2settled [2] - 104:12,144:8settlement [2] -74:16, 111:25sexual [1] - 133:17sham [2] - 68:14,97:12share [5] - 33:16,74:3, 82:21, 87:2,88:20shared [2] - 62:25,96:10
15
shed [1] - 71:16shit [2] - 68:16, 84:7shocks [1] - 25:18shoddy [1] - 140:24shooter [1] - 74:25short [1] - 131:1shortly [2] - 110:8shots [2] - 25:9,25:12shoulder [2] - 10:1shoulders [1] - 60:25show [4] - 96:8,98:12, 104:19, 131:9showed [1] - 18:3showing [1] - 138:20shows [1] - 18:9shut [1] - 63:4side [5] - 10:23, 25:3,77:5, 111:4, 122:12sides [2] - 34:23,77:5sign [5] - 101:15,101:18, 101:21,102:3, 102:7signed [5] - 74:16,94:11, 102:2, 102:14,124:17significant [2] -76:18, 131:1signing [1] - 101:23silence [2] - 82:2,112:11silent [1] - 118:23silly [2] - 24:11,91:24simply [4] - 68:18,97:7, 99:10, 132:9single [1] - 41:5single-handedly [1]- 41:5sister [1] - 108:25sit [2] - 25:25, 125:2sits [2] - 50:16,142:23sitting [2] - 4:22,75:20situation [2] - 37:23,90:23situations [1] - 64:12six [1] - 53:1sizeable [1] - 72:2skeptical [2] - 78:12,78:13sketchy [2] - 78:12,78:13sky [1] - 118:11slam [1] - 137:22slapping [1] - 22:1sleep [1] - 36:7
sleeping [1] - 36:4sloppy [1] - 71:12slow [2] - 13:6,104:14slowed [1] - 80:12small [4] - 51:6,71:16, 76:4, 76:17smart [7] - 20:2,32:16, 45:6, 48:20,107:13, 123:19, 131:9smarter [1] - 38:4smartest [1] - 82:20smiled [1] - 4:10smug [1] - 80:16smugly [1] - 81:2snake [1] - 28:4snow [2] - 94:5, 98:9Social [2] - 97:3,99:19softly [1] - 130:16software [1] - 111:19solicit [1] - 105:4solid [1] - 61:18solutions [1] - 4:25someone [3] - 84:1,141:22, 141:24sometimes [6] -12:20, 78:7, 86:7,90:3, 104:14, 111:7somewhat [1] -120:10somewhere [5] -10:7, 29:17, 46:10,47:17, 100:13soon [1] - 108:6sorry [7] - 4:11,49:18, 63:11, 68:6,72:6, 115:9, 130:17sort [8] - 12:4, 36:17,61:25, 84:10, 106:22,116:18, 126:14,140:16sound [1] - 98:4soup [2] - 14:12,39:20Source [2] - 115:20,116:1source [2] - 55:12,97:16SourceAmerica [7] -26:4, 53:13, 88:17,130:5, 130:7, 130:19,134:22SourceAmerica's [1]- 134:20South [1] - 7:6southcentral [1] -7:10speaking [1] - 58:20specific [1] - 26:23
specifically [1] -91:14speech [1] - 37:19spelled [1] - 2:9Spencer [1] - 33:5spend [2] - 35:5,96:2spending [1] - 24:17spent [3] - 34:24,35:7, 143:16spice [1] - 39:22spin [1] - 69:24spirited [1] - 66:18spiritedness [1] -73:25spoken [5] - 117:6,131:17, 136:18,139:21, 139:23spot [1] - 59:22Spring [1] - 117:11sprung [1] - 31:5squared [1] - 6:3SSN [2] - 47:5, 60:20St [5] - 5:10, 38:24,45:13, 49:9staff [13] - 3:13, 3:14,28:3, 53:13, 64:1,79:6, 79:7, 85:19,90:17, 132:4, 132:10,135:6, 135:10stamp [5] - 58:18,58:23, 67:15, 67:16stand [6] - 48:8,60:6, 60:23, 63:24,79:12standard [1] - 124:12standing [3] - 77:9,113:2, 138:11start [5] - 17:19,19:12, 19:21, 68:1,111:16started [9] - 34:8,51:6, 54:14, 67:25,69:10, 82:4, 106:17,142:3, 143:12starting [3] - 3:5,139:16, 142:16starts [4] - 21:17,23:2, 23:3, 69:2STATE [1] - 145:2stations [1] - 89:8statistical [1] - 99:24statistics [1] - 96:8stayed [1] - 10:15steadily [1] - 99:10steer [1] - 21:8steering [2] - 15:1,138:21step [1] - 115:7Stephanie [1] -
133:14still [10] - 30:15,30:19, 66:6, 66:8,76:18, 92:22, 96:9,106:7, 118:12stock [2] - 40:6, 40:7stood [1] - 41:5stop [3] - 3:22,52:15, 106:6stopped [1] - 10:21story [2] - 25:3, 77:3straight [2] - 19:18,74:25straight-shooter [1]- 74:25straightened [1] -92:19Stream [2] - 74:7,77:7strong [2] - 100:20,105:2structured [1] - 68:9study [3] - 81:8,122:7, 127:19stuff [55] - 3:12,9:19, 10:4, 15:2,15:11, 21:23, 33:14,38:13, 38:14, 43:19,45:1, 45:4, 51:7,55:20, 66:21, 67:17,68:2, 73:8, 80:9,81:15, 82:14, 84:2,89:24, 91:14, 91:15,91:16, 91:25, 92:19,105:10, 109:4,118:22, 119:13,119:15, 123:7, 124:4,124:9, 125:19,126:12, 126:20,129:5, 134:6, 137:7,138:21, 139:9,139:18, 139:20,139:22, 139:24,139:25, 140:9,140:24, 141:2, 141:7,142:20stupid [4] - 21:23,67:4, 119:13, 125:4stupider [1] - 119:13stupidity [1] - 67:8subcontract [1] -51:7subcontractor [6] -37:9, 37:25, 38:8,42:25, 68:3, 89:12subject [1] - 145:10subpoena [1] - 81:3subsidiary [2] - 49:3,115:23substance [2] -
137:8, 137:9subtly [1] - 21:8success [1] - 141:22sudden [5] - 13:16,17:23, 19:21, 25:8,31:20suddenly [2] - 49:17,87:8suggest [2] - 131:20,136:21suggested [1] -135:11suit [1] - 102:18suitable [1] - 43:5suitcase [2] - 43:17,73:12summary [1] - 60:22summer [3] - 10:15,10:16, 126:15summit [1] - 128:17sundown [1] - 57:18sundry [1] - 94:21sunup [1] - 57:18supervisor [1] -137:3supplement [1] -27:24support [2] - 58:3,130:22supposed [12] -15:5, 15:6, 24:25,29:6, 30:22, 37:1,60:17, 63:21, 76:7,81:12, 83:20, 117:23supposedly [3] -18:23, 35:12, 75:25surprise [2] - 62:1,62:2surprised [1] - 12:4survived [1] - 127:8suspect [1] - 51:1suspend [1] - 49:19sustain [1] - 98:20sustaining [1] -84:18SWAT [1] - 101:16sweatshirt [1] -126:19sweet [1] - 59:22swooping [1] - 81:1Syria [1] - 43:24system [5] - 3:16,64:19, 92:19, 104:18,107:14systemically [1] -52:13
T
table [2] - 5:20,
16
50:17target [1] - 135:2targeting [1] - 141:2tax [1] - 27:13team [2] - 101:17,122:25technically [2] -58:20, 102:13ten [3] - 94:18, 94:22tender [2] - 40:7,130:5tenure [1] - 135:2Teresa [3] - 5:23,11:2Terese [1] - 12:11terms [3] - 12:21,134:23, 138:20testosterone [1] -73:22TFM [7] - 41:21,42:11, 50:2, 50:6,50:8, 68:16, 68:19that'll [1] - 8:6themselves [2] -55:5, 139:18thereafter [2] -110:8, 110:9therefore [1] - 52:4they've [17] - 3:13,34:4, 43:22, 44:13,44:23, 45:3, 46:10,65:2, 88:1, 91:25,92:15, 120:11,122:20, 122:21,142:2, 142:25thick [1] - 40:5thinking [4] - 24:12,49:25, 50:1, 119:18thinks [8] - 39:7,41:17, 54:14, 54:18,60:10, 100:17,100:18, 140:4third [1] - 51:3threatened [1] -103:19threatening [2] -80:18, 135:7three [17] - 3:4, 3:5,20:4, 26:7, 28:6, 28:8,50:21, 50:22, 51:16,53:1, 104:3, 107:23,108:8, 126:3, 142:4,143:16three-day [2] - 3:4,3:5three-month [1] -142:4threw [1] - 34:14throw [1] - 78:7thug [3] - 82:24,
82:25, 83:6ticket [1] - 97:2tickets [1] - 117:21tidings [1] - 10:19ties [1] - 16:6timeline [1] - 112:8timing [1] - 110:3Tina [6] - 57:22,58:6, 63:25, 87:14,99:6tired [1] - 121:17today [7] - 3:19, 4:1,7:15, 57:16, 60:6,60:15, 120:18together [3] - 68:22,81:20, 116:6Tom [1] - 50:4Tomlinson [1] -55:11tomorrow [11] - 3:4,115:12, 115:13,117:8, 117:10, 122:5,126:9, 126:10,129:13, 130:14,137:20tonight [2] - 8:12,122:4took [4] - 33:7,87:14, 135:6, 140:20tool [1] - 52:15top [25] - 5:13, 7:2,11:9, 15:12, 40:20,41:13, 43:10, 43:13,43:14, 44:8, 45:18,46:7, 46:8, 46:9,46:10, 47:5, 47:15,48:15, 48:25, 51:2,52:8, 53:2, 56:17,92:12, 92:15top-secret [21] -40:20, 41:13, 43:10,43:13, 43:14, 44:8,45:18, 46:7, 46:8,46:9, 46:10, 47:5,47:15, 48:15, 48:25,51:2, 52:8, 53:2,56:17, 92:12, 92:15torn [1] - 10:2total [1] - 38:12touch [2] - 100:22,108:5tough [1] - 105:17town [4] - 12:12,74:13, 78:11trace [1] - 110:20traces [1] - 111:2track [1] - 100:6trading [1] - 103:11trail [1] - 123:21trails [1] - 130:2
training [4] - 3:5,3:13, 4:22, 64:12trainings [1] - 35:11transactions [1] -26:4transcribed [1] -145:5Transcribed [1] -1:24transcript [3] -145:8, 145:9, 145:11TRANSCRIPTION [1]
- 1:5transcription [1] -2:6transference [1] -105:12transferrable [1] -46:13transparent [5] -64:10, 67:17, 84:24,102:20, 110:15TRDI [1] - 105:9tree [1] - 141:18trees [1] - 140:17tried [5] - 3:18, 3:21,5:12, 68:1, 69:4tries [1] - 30:18trigger [1] - 103:18triggered [1] - 104:8trips [1] - 107:23trot [1] - 22:14trouble [2] - 5:24, 6:1true [16] - 42:13,43:12, 53:4, 58:15,58:17, 69:4, 78:6,111:3, 116:20,116:21, 119:10,119:24, 120:5, 145:8truly [2] - 48:17,99:21Trump [3] - 19:25,101:15, 134:14Trump's [1] - 134:18trust [4] - 96:3,122:16, 122:17, 136:9trustworthy [1] -91:5truth [1] - 108:21try [6] - 13:23, 51:19,61:14, 80:24, 122:13,141:18trying [25] - 4:23,12:21, 18:13, 19:2,19:3, 21:8, 33:11,36:2, 38:16, 38:17,38:21, 38:25, 42:20,64:11, 70:2, 92:5,105:3, 105:15,105:22, 108:21,
124:16, 137:21,142:14, 142:22, 143:8TTC [2] - 69:4, 69:5TTTC [1] - 88:3Tuesday [5] - 3:3,34:21, 60:9, 60:15turn [4] - 7:15, 7:16,101:24, 101:25turned [3] - 9:10,121:18, 140:23Turner [32] - 6:7,6:13, 14:9, 16:19,18:4, 18:5, 22:9, 23:9,23:13, 23:16, 23:21,24:7, 24:8, 24:13,25:8, 28:10, 29:15,35:1, 35:19, 35:20,35:21, 35:22, 36:4,36:22, 39:7, 41:16,49:4, 51:21, 58:2,67:19, 71:4Turner's [14] - 22:8,23:6, 28:9, 28:12,29:5, 34:22, 36:16,41:22, 42:24, 45:3,45:17, 51:4, 51:6,51:12turning [2] - 99:10,104:24turns [1] - 4:2TV [1] - 32:3two [22] - 11:3, 22:7,22:8, 40:20, 41:6,45:8, 47:19, 47:22,48:24, 57:17, 63:20,81:2, 82:22, 90:25,92:6, 92:21, 108:8,108:13, 108:14,137:18types [1] - 103:16
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um-hmm [7] - 21:14,38:20, 44:15, 69:18,79:16, 82:10, 112:2unable [1] - 132:8unaware [1] - 37:24uncomfortable [1] -118:15under [5] - 19:6,39:5, 66:22, 77:1,112:11underground [1] -82:14Underhill [4] - 80:5,80:7, 81:25, 84:10unexpected [1] -108:12unfair [2] - 98:18,
105:10unfortunately [2] -3:3, 116:23Unintelligible [1] -128:10unintelligible [8] -2:5, 25:2, 135:13,135:14, 135:21,135:24, 136:10, 137:6unintelligible) [4] -20:15, 135:21,136:18, 137:2unless [3] - 48:14,52:7, 56:21unmanageable [1] -34:14untenable [1] - 132:7unwillingness [1] -132:10up [76] - 4:1, 4:25,5:8, 6:2, 7:13, 7:14,11:15, 12:19, 13:17,16:1, 17:10, 18:3,18:9, 21:17, 21:22,21:23, 22:9, 23:1,23:2, 23:10, 23:13,25:5, 25:23, 28:13,30:25, 31:17, 34:13,35:12, 36:2, 37:5,38:15, 42:21, 43:24,48:21, 52:14, 54:6,57:16, 57:19, 60:2,60:4, 63:4, 65:2, 67:7,67:10, 68:14, 68:25,71:2, 75:15, 77:1,79:12, 80:12, 82:9,84:5, 87:6, 91:16,98:17, 100:2, 101:10,103:5, 103:20,103:25, 105:20,107:2, 107:17, 109:1,109:9, 118:11,118:24, 121:24,124:1, 126:12,135:19, 141:2, 141:18upcoming [1] - 87:2upstairs [1] - 120:2useful [1] - 136:12uses [1] - 97:7usual [1] - 85:6
V
vacation [2] -108:12, 109:24Valerie [3] - 80:20,81:25, 143:13VanHughes [1] -79:14various [2] - 94:21,
17
128:18veteran [4] - 19:13,21:13, 22:5, 89:12veteran-owned [3] -19:13, 21:13, 22:5veterans [5] - 17:19,19:20, 22:21, 26:10,69:1veterans-owned [2]- 17:19, 19:20vice [1] - 54:6viewed [1] - 131:15vindictive [1] - 66:19violating [1] - 101:22Virginia [2] - 87:10,117:12visit [2] - 88:5,134:18visiting [1] - 88:1voice [1] - 19:6voices [1] - 2:2vote [1] - 34:3voted [5] - 31:4,31:10, 33:8, 33:9,33:10voting [4] - 32:15,32:19, 32:20, 139:17VP [2] - 14:4, 134:9
W
wait [1] - 40:15waiting [5] - 5:6, 5:7,50:1, 75:20, 144:9wake [2] - 23:10,23:13walk [1] - 45:23walked [4] - 4:5,57:16, 111:5, 135:5walking [3] - 20:15,126:25, 127:2walks [2] - 4:1, 35:12walled [1] - 88:25wants [8] - 4:13,7:16, 39:6, 76:11,87:22, 97:10, 100:16,138:7waste [4] - 22:19,31:11, 32:14, 139:15watch [3] - 83:3, 83:4watching [2] - 20:12,20:13water [2] - 17:14,19:4ways [3] - 32:7, 93:5,120:12wear [1] - 126:11wearing [1] - 126:9weather [1] - 126:13wedge [1] - 122:22
Wednesday [1] -11:17week [11] - 5:5, 11:3,12:9, 19:22, 20:4,28:23, 75:15, 75:16,96:14, 98:22, 128:14weekend [5] - 59:10,61:16, 114:3, 114:8,140:20weekly [1] - 56:5weeks [8] - 10:15,12:13, 108:8, 108:12,108:13, 108:14,137:18whichever [1] - 7:4whispered [1] -119:22whoa [1] - 12:1whole [26] - 6:16,12:24, 17:20, 18:19,34:3, 34:9, 35:17,40:21, 55:4, 63:19,65:15, 68:5, 68:8,69:21, 78:11, 80:8,80:15, 81:5, 85:19,95:15, 99:9, 102:20,105:10, 127:20,139:15wider [1] - 92:6wiggle [1] - 51:20Willard [6] - 6:22,96:5, 96:17, 96:19,102:10, 104:8William [3] - 50:20,53:17, 63:9Williams [2] - 21:19,62:13willing [3] - 65:3,81:19, 99:8winning [1] - 59:12winter [1] - 126:15wish [2] - 48:22,132:21WITNESS [1] -145:19woman [2] - 3:21,119:17won [3] - 11:9, 11:12,122:20wonderful [1] -114:12wondering [1] -76:22word [3] - 17:18,60:17, 142:16words [6] - 2:6,51:20, 56:11, 123:13,131:8, 137:25workforce [1] - 99:18works [7] - 16:2,
33:18, 96:20, 96:23,104:17, 142:1, 142:2world [5] - 6:4,21:21, 44:13, 45:10,92:2worried [2] - 36:5,82:7worry [1] - 76:15worth [2] - 135:17,136:12worthy [2] - 94:19wow [26] - 3:15, 4:8,4:20, 9:7, 11:1, 11:14,11:18, 12:6, 19:23,25:4, 37:20, 39:4,40:25, 66:3, 96:12,102:4, 128:3, 128:11,129:22, 132:25,133:7, 134:3, 137:1,140:21wrap [1] - 135:19wrap-up [1] - 135:19wrath [1] - 62:16wreck [1] - 93:2write [7] - 29:12,29:13, 120:20, 124:9,132:19, 140:20writing [3] - 29:17,35:23, 90:9written [3] - 29:3,99:6, 143:1wronged [1] - 105:5wrote [4] - 102:17,109:15, 117:22, 122:2
Y
YAI [4] - 115:20,115:25, 116:6, 116:7yards [2] - 18:19,80:8year [21] - 9:20, 18:3,18:9, 25:12, 46:22,53:3, 53:4, 67:20,89:16, 98:16, 100:25,101:1, 102:9, 102:22,103:17, 133:20,135:1, 138:11, 139:7,142:5years [7] - 4:7, 14:11,32:10, 41:7, 74:24,97:10, 120:16yell [1] - 71:14yesterday [4] -35:10, 36:3, 74:1,99:7young [2] - 91:7,91:8
18
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