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300:00:37,609 --> 00:00:44,570explode the bazaars or e-ticket ride

400:00:42,090 --> 00:00:47,850into the world of the paranoid

500:00:44,570 --> 00:00:52,159strap yourself e'en as we traverse the

600:00:47,850 --> 00:00:55,280universe exploring the unexplained UFO s

700:00:52,159 --> 00:00:57,659ghosts Lost Worlds

800:00:55,280 --> 00:01:01,500cryptozoology waters as well as other

900:00:57,659 --> 00:01:03,738dimensions it's time to take back the

1000:01:01,500 --> 00:01:07,379NASA night

1100:01:03,738 --> 00:01:10,618now your electrifying hosts of exploring

1200:01:07,379 --> 00:01:18,299the bizarre Timothy Begley and team

1300:01:10,618 --> 00:01:24,719sports photos

1400:01:18,299 --> 00:01:29,429I'm sure Oh are these are these family


1500:01:24,719 --> 00:01:33,780shots your grandparents cousins is this

1600:01:29,430 --> 00:01:37,820your family tree oh no not at all

1700:01:33,780 --> 00:01:39,269something downright spooky and weird oh

1800:01:37,819 --> 00:01:42,868yeah

1900:01:39,269 --> 00:01:45,868what is it it's photos of spirits of the

2000:01:42,868 --> 00:01:49,500Dead ghost people have gone beyond the

2100:01:45,868 --> 00:01:52,200pale well I thought all those pictures

2200:01:49,500 --> 00:01:55,469from the ages of spiritualism were just

2300:01:52,200 --> 00:01:58,679proven to be fake you know bloaty

2400:01:55,469 --> 00:02:00,989oh I can see you were a fan of Houdini

2500:01:58,679 --> 00:02:02,939that's not true at all they could be the

2600:02:00,989 --> 00:02:06,149real thing and I think one of our guests

2700:02:02,939 --> 00:02:08,669will try to prove it this evening oh wow

2800:02:06,149 --> 00:02:11,909wait a minute there's my aunt Seeley

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00:02:08,669 --> 00:02:15,839that sure looks like her but she's been

3000:02:11,909 --> 00:02:16,590passed over for over 50 years now there

3100:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,629you go

3200:02:16,590 --> 00:02:23,780see I told you there was something to

3300:02:18,629 --> 00:02:27,169this how you out there ingest but oh

3400:02:23,780 --> 00:02:30,120well it's a it's another beautiful

3500:02:27,169 --> 00:02:32,579evening in Jasper that kids went off to

3600:02:30,120 --> 00:02:35,789school for the first time today so all

3700:02:32,580 --> 00:02:39,290is good in my world isn't it true that

3800:02:35,789 --> 00:02:40,769the Brady Bunch live next door to you I

3900:02:39,289 --> 00:02:45,120hope not

4000:02:40,770 --> 00:02:48,209I don't I don't think they could handle

4100:02:45,120 --> 00:02:50,730the likes of our family oh boy well I'm

4200:02:48,209 --> 00:02:52,229uh you know I don't

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I don't know I don't know I hear their

4400:02:52,229 --> 00:02:57,949house went for what several million

4500:02:53,878 --> 00:03:03,568dollars yeah yeah well HGTV bought it

4600:02:57,949 --> 00:03:05,579all right the cable network yeah yeah

4700:03:03,568 --> 00:03:07,919yeah well the kiss just go Sakuya

4800:03:05,580 --> 00:03:10,650there's something in a name just like

4900:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,568our name your name in my name I'm sure

5000:03:10,650 --> 00:03:17,549we could get a couple of million dollars

5100:03:12,568 --> 00:03:20,699for use of our name right then yeah sure

5200:03:17,549 --> 00:03:23,239I'm waiting for that well you know you

5300:03:20,699 --> 00:03:25,649know for this chatter chatter chatter

5400:03:23,239 --> 00:03:27,180because we want to bring our guest on

5500:03:25,650 --> 00:03:28,560right away because it gets it very

5600:03:27,180 --> 00:03:30,689interesting things to say and I'm

5700:03:28,560 --> 00:03:34,920looking forward to talking personally


5800:03:30,689 --> 00:03:40,378when you're in silly pants ceiling yeah

5900:03:34,919 --> 00:03:42,539Oh silly silly anyway what did you tell

6000:03:40,378 --> 00:03:45,090our our audience who were going to be

6100:03:42,539 --> 00:03:46,679speaking with it oh well be my pleasure

6200:03:45,090 --> 00:03:49,348well we've got a couple of great guests

6300:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,980tonight first of all we have Daryl

6400:03:49,348 --> 00:03:52,469Edgehill

6500:03:49,979 --> 00:03:54,899now daryl is a photographer who grew up

6600:03:52,469 --> 00:03:57,930listening to his mother and her sisters

6700:03:54,900 --> 00:04:01,379talk about seeing the apparation

6800:03:57,930 --> 00:04:03,389of their deceased brother so now we got

6900:04:01,379 --> 00:04:06,959to find out about that story so

7000:04:03,389 --> 00:04:09,870obviously there was you know something

7100:04:06,959 --> 00:04:12,419in the family genes there because it


7200:04:09,870 --> 00:04:15,900wasn't until Daryl was about 19 years

7300:04:12,419 --> 00:04:17,780old and living in Bethel Ohio that he

7400:04:15,900 --> 00:04:20,489had his first encounter with the unknown

7500:04:17,779 --> 00:04:22,918one night while he was cooking dinner a

7600:04:20,488 --> 00:04:25,469little girl stepped out of the back

7700:04:22,918 --> 00:04:27,659bedroom and approached him he said that

7800:04:25,470 --> 00:04:30,090she was about four or five years old

7900:04:27,660 --> 00:04:31,740and he could see right through her she

8000:04:30,089 --> 00:04:33,478stood right in front of him looking

8100:04:31,740 --> 00:04:35,430straight in the eyes before she

8200:04:33,478 --> 00:04:36,930disappeared how weird is that

8300:04:35,430 --> 00:04:38,970lady were bad evening while watching

8400:04:36,930 --> 00:04:41,389television with his girlfriend the

8500:04:38,970 --> 00:04:44,520ghostly girl made another appearance

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00:04:41,389 --> 00:04:46,348Daryl says that they continued to be

8700:04:44,519 --> 00:04:47,098haunted by the little girl until they

8800:04:46,348 --> 00:04:49,228moved away

8900:04:47,098 --> 00:04:50,430five years later I'm surprised she

9000:04:49,228 --> 00:04:52,949didn't want to move along with them

9100:04:50,430 --> 00:04:54,300since then agile says that he's been on

9200:04:52,949 --> 00:04:57,000the hot pursuit on scene another

9300:04:54,300 --> 00:04:58,680apparition and filming it he searched in

9400:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,709places such as Florida Alabama

9500:04:58,680 --> 00:05:04,079Mississippi Louisiana Texas and the East

9600:05:01,709 --> 00:05:06,598Coast he says that he has spent three

9700:05:04,079 --> 00:05:09,240eight years ghost-hunting and we'll

9800:05:06,598 --> 00:05:12,149never get tired of it I expect so much

9900:05:09,240 --> 00:05:15,090time on it he says that it's just a big

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part of me so now also with us tonight

10100:05:15,089 --> 00:05:22,019is D night aka the Kentucky Gosar Tara

10200:05:19,709 --> 00:05:26,579Dean obviously doesn't live too far away

10300:05:22,019 --> 00:05:28,889from me now hunting may be a strong

10400:05:26,579 --> 00:05:30,538world he's a word he says but accurate

10500:05:28,889 --> 00:05:33,449there's something out there that we do

10600:05:30,538 --> 00:05:35,188not understand we know it's there but

10700:05:33,449 --> 00:05:37,310because of the limited knowledge or

10800:05:35,189 --> 00:05:41,039understanding of it becomes complicated

10900:05:37,310 --> 00:05:42,509almost in spa impossible now Dean says

11000:05:41,038 --> 00:05:45,000that he goes places with the

11100:05:42,509 --> 00:05:47,729understanding that these things do exist

11200:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,939and that he doesn't need to investigate

11300:05:47,728 --> 00:05:53,430the likelihood of that existence he uses

11400:05:50,939 --> 00:05:56,399hunting techniques to find or bring to


11500:05:53,430 --> 00:05:58,560unknown to him and then once he has it

11600:05:56,399 --> 00:06:02,370he says I am determined to prove exactly

11700:05:58,560 --> 00:06:04,800what it is that goes bump in the night

11800:06:02,370 --> 00:06:06,449our Dean says that a person can ask for

11900:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,750help and that he has a network of people

12000:06:06,449 --> 00:06:12,629who deal in the paranormal globally so

12100:06:09,750 --> 00:06:13,348he says don't be afraid to ask I can get

12200:06:12,629 --> 00:06:15,569you help

12300:06:13,348 --> 00:06:16,348so Dean Darryl thank you very much for

12400:06:15,569 --> 00:06:21,379being with us tonight

12500:06:16,348 --> 00:06:21,378on exploring the bizarre well thank you

12600:06:22,680 --> 00:06:28,079[Laughter]

12700:06:25,848 --> 00:06:37,009do you want to start with here do I

12800:06:28,079 --> 00:06:40,198start with a Darryl Tim I think that


12900:06:37,009 --> 00:06:43,439Darryl the the the story that you you

13000:06:40,199 --> 00:06:46,228said in your biography about your mother

13100:06:43,439 --> 00:06:48,509and your sister talking about seeing

13200:06:46,228 --> 00:06:50,038their deceased brother that just

13300:06:48,509 --> 00:06:52,229fascinated me and I want to know a

13400:06:50,038 --> 00:06:56,509little bit more details about that do

13500:06:52,228 --> 00:06:59,338you remember and what was going on with

13600:06:56,509 --> 00:07:02,788what they were seeing or did they tell

13700:06:59,338 --> 00:07:06,449you yes they did they actually told me

13800:07:02,788 --> 00:07:09,628that they were in bed at night and their

13900:07:06,449 --> 00:07:12,810deceased brother had walked into their

14000:07:09,629 --> 00:07:15,900bedroom and sat down on the bed beside

14100:07:12,810 --> 00:07:20,579them and it was their brother

14200:07:15,899 --> 00:07:25,198he was a full apparition and he was

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00:07:20,579 --> 00:07:30,750transparent and they saw him several

14400:07:25,199 --> 00:07:33,240times in their younger years so they

14500:07:30,750 --> 00:07:35,038were pretty young when they saw him yes

14600:07:33,240 --> 00:07:38,910they were in their teens and when they

14700:07:35,038 --> 00:07:42,870saw it actually that had to have been

14800:07:38,910 --> 00:07:49,250pretty freaky for him well yeah I would

14900:07:42,870 --> 00:07:53,519I would imagine when when I saw my

15000:07:49,250 --> 00:07:56,430apparition I just didn't know what to do

15100:07:53,519 --> 00:08:01,399I was standing there my knees started

15200:07:56,430 --> 00:08:04,590buckling that's the first time I've ever

15300:08:01,399 --> 00:08:10,379experienced anything like that and I

15400:08:04,589 --> 00:08:12,388know that she knew that she was freaking

15500:08:10,379 --> 00:08:14,909me out and I could I could sense that

15600:08:12,389 --> 00:08:17,250and she could sense that she was you

15700:08:14,910 --> 00:08:20,880


know doing that and she turned around

15800:08:17,250 --> 00:08:24,870and walked away so I never said anything

15900:08:20,879 --> 00:08:26,909to anyone and my ex-girlfriend that we

16000:08:24,870 --> 00:08:30,810were sitting on the couch watching TV

16100:08:26,910 --> 00:08:35,339and she came out of the kitchen area and

16200:08:30,810 --> 00:08:38,700into the living room and Wow

16300:08:35,339 --> 00:08:42,479my girlfriend's she just she just went

16400:08:38,700 --> 00:08:46,140all to pieces but it wasn't very long

16500:08:42,479 --> 00:08:47,670until we started feeling like she was

16600:08:46,139 --> 00:08:50,970part of the family and I'll tell you

16700:08:47,669 --> 00:08:53,269what to this day 38 years later I miss

16800:08:50,970 --> 00:08:59,879her and I would love to see her again

16900:08:53,269 --> 00:09:02,220she was a normal four year old she was

17000:08:59,879 --> 00:09:05,700playful she would run her fingers

17100:09:02,220 --> 00:09:08,509through my hair at night she would she


17200:09:05,700 --> 00:09:13,560loved touching me on the shoulder and

17300:09:08,509 --> 00:09:15,899she would get a big kick out of pulling

17400:09:13,559 --> 00:09:20,129the covers right off the bed I mean that

17500:09:15,899 --> 00:09:24,360was all the time and she was just a

17600:09:20,129 --> 00:09:27,809normal playful little kid but she could

17700:09:24,360 --> 00:09:29,570only stay visible for about three to

17800:09:27,809 --> 00:09:33,889five minutes out of the time

17900:09:29,570 --> 00:09:36,950a ton but she would appear probably a

18000:09:33,889 --> 00:09:40,189half a dozen times out of the day huh

18100:09:36,950 --> 00:09:45,890but but that happened for five years and

18200:09:40,190 --> 00:09:48,200until we moved to Kentucky and I'll tell

18300:09:45,889 --> 00:09:50,059you I miss her boy would I love to see

18400:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,830her again well what kind of place were

18500:09:50,059 --> 00:09:53,239you living at I mean was it a you know


18600:09:51,830 --> 00:09:58,220like apartment building in an older

18700:09:53,240 --> 00:10:03,970house or what it was an old early 1900

18800:09:58,220 --> 00:10:03,970partment building in Bethel Ohio and

18900:10:04,240 --> 00:10:10,779I've been trying my best to find the

19000:10:08,629 --> 00:10:14,929history on that place I don't know if

19100:10:10,779 --> 00:10:22,159something happened if the child had died

19200:10:14,929 --> 00:10:26,229there or spirits they can be in and

19300:10:22,159 --> 00:10:33,439around a building or a site many years

19400:10:26,230 --> 00:10:37,220you know three 1900s you know it's hard

19500:10:33,440 --> 00:10:40,460to tell what dimension she came from but

19600:10:37,220 --> 00:10:45,190I've been I've been trying to find out

19700:10:40,460 --> 00:10:49,509if I can go back to Bethel Ohio and

19800:10:45,190 --> 00:10:54,950spend a couple nights in that apartment

19900:10:49,509 --> 00:10:57,980just to see if I can film her and talk

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00:10:54,950 --> 00:11:01,310to her and see what I can get if I knew

20100:10:57,980 --> 00:11:06,050then what I know now about spirits and

20200:11:01,309 --> 00:11:06,649ghost hunting oh man there's no doubt

20300:11:06,049 --> 00:11:09,049buddy

20400:11:06,649 --> 00:11:12,769oh yeah hides hindsight's always 20/20

20500:11:09,049 --> 00:11:15,079is yes it is okay now was it because of

20600:11:12,769 --> 00:11:19,629this experience is that what got you

20700:11:15,080 --> 00:11:23,950interested in the paranormal yes it is

20800:11:19,629 --> 00:11:26,360after she had left out of our lives I

20900:11:23,950 --> 00:11:30,800knew that there was other spirits out

21000:11:26,360 --> 00:11:35,300there and I was going to search high low

21100:11:30,799 --> 00:11:40,609for the next full apparition and I've

21200:11:35,299 --> 00:11:44,019come close I've come close to filling a

21300:11:40,610 --> 00:11:44,019lot of different things I've seen

21400:11:44,049 --> 00:11:56,750


mok's in southern Texas I see I see

21500:11:50,570 --> 00:11:59,680actually spirits and orbs flying through

21600:11:56,750 --> 00:12:02,389the air now my partner

21700:11:59,679 --> 00:12:07,958Linda Wolfe Lee she works at River edge

21800:12:02,389 --> 00:12:11,448hospital she and I have been doing this

21900:12:07,958 --> 00:12:15,109together she's been doing this now for a

22000:12:11,448 --> 00:12:21,559year and a couple months and she's a big

22100:12:15,110 --> 00:12:26,120part of this ghost hunting expedition up

22200:12:21,559 --> 00:12:29,539here in Chicago a lot of the pictures

22300:12:26,120 --> 00:12:33,500that we've taken and that's in some of

22400:12:29,539 --> 00:12:36,439our books came from her and she's we've

22500:12:33,500 --> 00:12:40,639been out the cemeteries the cold and the

22600:12:36,440 --> 00:12:44,209zero degree weather go sunning and she's

22700:12:40,639 --> 00:12:49,419a real she's a real trooper and I just

22800:12:44,208 --> 00:12:54,318got to thank her and her efforts in


22900:12:49,419 --> 00:12:58,328hunting with me but it's just amazing

23000:12:54,318 --> 00:13:02,679that the spirits that we have found now

23100:12:58,328 --> 00:13:07,638we have honestly now this might sound

23200:13:02,679 --> 00:13:11,809crazy but we feel like there's this one

23300:13:07,639 --> 00:13:16,250cemetery that we go to we feel like the

23400:13:11,809 --> 00:13:22,609spirits there are our friends now it

23500:13:16,250 --> 00:13:24,919might sound crazy we have got okay where

23600:13:22,610 --> 00:13:25,879the cemetery is is about five minutes

23700:13:24,919 --> 00:13:29,000from where we live

23800:13:25,879 --> 00:13:32,360so we visit it all the time and I know

23900:13:29,000 --> 00:13:35,389for a fact as I'm sitting here that we

24000:13:32,360 --> 00:13:39,199have visited that cemetery over 300

24100:13:35,389 --> 00:13:44,539times that's a fact and we have gotten

24200:13:39,198 --> 00:13:48,349to where we can say hit you'll hit the


24300:13:44,539 --> 00:13:52,309back of the car do whatever and they

24400:13:48,350 --> 00:13:54,259will do it we we speak to them just like

24500:13:52,309 --> 00:13:56,338I'm talking to the audience right now

24600:13:54,259 --> 00:14:01,198mm-hmm

24700:13:56,339 --> 00:14:06,649they they respond they are not they are

24800:14:01,198 --> 00:14:11,099not dumb they are very smart individuals

24900:14:06,649 --> 00:14:14,249we've we've heard a woman talk in the

25000:14:11,100 --> 00:14:16,920front seat right in between us we have

25100:14:14,249 --> 00:14:23,278seen light shows out there there's just

25200:14:16,919 --> 00:14:27,208just out of this world the smoke the the

25300:14:23,278 --> 00:14:30,499spirit smoke we have so much of that in

25400:14:27,208 --> 00:14:35,969pictures that it's just it's just it's

25500:14:30,499 --> 00:14:40,620just unbelievable and we we really have

25600:14:35,970 --> 00:14:44,579a rapport with these spirits and I

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00:14:40,620 --> 00:14:49,818believe if you are in the paranormal

25800:14:44,578 --> 00:14:55,679ghosts any it is imperative to actually

25900:14:49,818 --> 00:14:58,198friend these people if you can you will

26000:14:55,679 --> 00:15:01,588absolutely and I'm telling you you will

26100:14:58,198 --> 00:15:05,178absolutely get positive results if you

26200:15:01,589 --> 00:15:08,870do that I guess I always figured that

26300:15:05,178 --> 00:15:10,708cemeteries would be the least haunted of

26400:15:08,870 --> 00:15:13,860locations you know I mean I would

26500:15:10,708 --> 00:15:15,628understand you know locations where

26600:15:13,860 --> 00:15:19,889maybe somebody had an emotional

26700:15:15,629 --> 00:15:22,459attachment you you know or or you know

26800:15:19,889 --> 00:15:25,259maybe a place where somebody died

26900:15:22,458 --> 00:15:26,789unpleasantly like that yeah you know I

27000:15:25,259 --> 00:15:28,589mean I wouldn't think that you know

27100:15:26,789 --> 00:15:31,139


people would be spending a lot of time

27200:15:28,589 --> 00:15:34,949hanging around where where their body

27300:15:31,139 --> 00:15:36,778used to be yes not where they used to be

27400:15:34,948 --> 00:15:40,620but where their body is is currently

27500:15:36,778 --> 00:15:42,539right I understand yeah you know I had

27600:15:40,620 --> 00:15:44,850thought about that you know when I first

27700:15:42,539 --> 00:15:48,299started in this but there are so many

27800:15:44,850 --> 00:15:52,709now st. Augustine Florida is another

27900:15:48,299 --> 00:15:57,088place that's very haunted 1565 is or it

28000:15:52,708 --> 00:16:01,909was founded and it's just amazing that

28100:15:57,089 --> 00:16:06,569this the spirit world is just just

28200:16:01,909 --> 00:16:09,058absolutely just crazy there especially

28300:16:06,568 --> 00:16:10,110in the yeah isn't there an old hotel

28400:16:09,058 --> 00:16:12,088there that's

28500:16:10,110 --> 00:16:14,879I think I was there years ago it's


28600:16:12,089 --> 00:16:18,630painted think you don't know yeah yes

28700:16:14,879 --> 00:16:21,659yes yes that that's very haunted and and

28800:16:18,629 --> 00:16:22,799the st. Augustine lighthouse is another

28900:16:21,659 --> 00:16:28,230one that's haunted

29000:16:22,799 --> 00:16:31,289I have taken a EVPs there and EMF

29100:16:28,230 --> 00:16:35,730readings and they just spiked off the

29200:16:31,289 --> 00:16:42,299charts you know down in the basement of

29300:16:35,730 --> 00:16:47,278the lighthouse and they're in the bottom

29400:16:42,299 --> 00:16:52,799of well it's a long area or a cannon is

29500:16:47,278 --> 00:16:55,828I have been attacked three times three

29600:16:52,799 --> 00:16:59,609different places three different times

29700:16:55,828 --> 00:17:03,359there and it would act actually get on

29800:16:59,610 --> 00:17:06,360top of my back and just seemed like it

29900:17:03,360 --> 00:17:10,140was choking me to death it was it was


30000:17:06,359 --> 00:17:14,609driving the air out of my lungs and I

30100:17:10,140 --> 00:17:18,120would have to leave out of that area to

30200:17:14,609 --> 00:17:21,298regain composure there there's something

30300:17:18,119 --> 00:17:23,099in there that just isn't right but now

30400:17:21,298 --> 00:17:27,029why do you think that you were attacked

30500:17:23,099 --> 00:17:30,839like that you know I really don't know I

30600:17:27,029 --> 00:17:34,410have been trying to talk to it take

30700:17:30,839 --> 00:17:37,319pictures and all three times that I

30800:17:34,410 --> 00:17:41,370would go there it would just get on my

30900:17:37,319 --> 00:17:43,500back and just just trying to drive the

31000:17:41,369 --> 00:17:47,058air right out of it now I don't know if

31100:17:43,500 --> 00:17:52,048anyone else has had that experience

31200:17:47,058 --> 00:17:56,910there but something just is something is

31300:17:52,048 --> 00:18:00,599just very heavy there that it's just

314


00:17:56,910 --> 00:18:02,700there's just not right now how many

31500:18:00,599 --> 00:18:05,548would you say I mean you've been

31600:18:02,700 --> 00:18:10,640involved in a lot of cases how many

31700:18:05,548 --> 00:18:13,740cases would you say are are benevolent

31800:18:10,640 --> 00:18:16,290ghosts and others that are like this one

31900:18:13,740 --> 00:18:19,650I mean outside of poltergeist cases we

32000:18:16,289 --> 00:18:21,539don't hear about too many cases I mean

32100:18:19,650 --> 00:18:23,970the overly majority of them just seem to

32200:18:21,539 --> 00:18:26,789be either wandering spirits or something

32300:18:23,970 --> 00:18:28,680exists in another dimension or parallel

32400:18:26,789 --> 00:18:34,409universe or however you want to explain

32500:18:28,680 --> 00:18:36,779the phenomena that one in the st.

32600:18:34,410 --> 00:18:41,390Augustine Florida and there was one

32700:18:36,779 --> 00:18:44,759other and that was here in Chicago

32800:18:41,390 --> 00:18:45,930


probably six months ago or so we were

32900:18:44,759 --> 00:18:50,599out in the cemetery

33000:18:45,930 --> 00:18:55,830and something just didn't seem right I

33100:18:50,599 --> 00:19:01,379was apprehensive of going into a certain

33200:18:55,829 --> 00:19:05,039area and I drove around for a while it's

33300:19:01,380 --> 00:19:06,390a every time I go by there something new

33400:19:05,039 --> 00:19:12,720just about make me sick to my stomach

33500:19:06,390 --> 00:19:15,150and I'm I said to myself okay you are an

33600:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,910investigator of the paranormal you got

33700:19:15,150 --> 00:19:20,700to get your butt out there and see what

33800:19:17,910 --> 00:19:24,150it is well I made myself go out there

33900:19:20,700 --> 00:19:27,779and there were some dark entities out

34000:19:24,150 --> 00:19:31,310there and one actually followed us home

34100:19:27,779 --> 00:19:34,349and I was cooking one night and

34200:19:31,309 --> 00:19:37,019something just made me stab myself on


34300:19:34,349 --> 00:19:39,539the friggin hand a couple times and I

34400:19:37,019 --> 00:19:42,869still got the scar in my hand I mean it

34500:19:39,539 --> 00:19:49,409just just made me take my hand just just

34600:19:42,869 --> 00:19:55,259stab myself and so Linda and myself we

34700:19:49,410 --> 00:19:57,630got together and we made it we made it

34800:19:55,259 --> 00:20:00,299leave we got in the car and we told it

34900:19:57,630 --> 00:20:04,050you've got to get out of here you're not

35000:20:00,299 --> 00:20:07,169wanted you've got to get out of our

35100:20:04,049 --> 00:20:14,220lives so we did go back to the cemetery

35200:20:07,170 --> 00:20:17,400and it did leave and we never had any

35300:20:14,220 --> 00:20:23,029more problems with that at all but I was

35400:20:17,400 --> 00:20:28,790talking to a lady see she is going to be

35500:20:23,029 --> 00:20:30,980a client and she has paranormal

35600:20:28,789 --> 00:20:36,450activities she has poltergeist


35700:20:30,980 --> 00:20:38,389activities and she's experiencing some

35800:20:36,450 --> 00:20:45,240of the things

35900:20:38,388 --> 00:20:48,089that I have and I I keep holy water with

36000:20:45,240 --> 00:20:51,298me at all times and I told her I said

36100:20:48,089 --> 00:20:53,519you know maybe keeping some holy water

36200:20:51,298 --> 00:20:54,918around and just forcing it around you

36300:20:53,519 --> 00:20:57,538know when these things happen

36400:20:54,919 --> 00:21:01,200might help either that you might need to

36500:20:57,538 --> 00:21:03,298get a priest or something and well how

36600:21:01,200 --> 00:21:09,028do you how do you know it's dark energy

36700:21:03,298 --> 00:21:14,960I can see it I could lend in myself we

36800:21:09,028 --> 00:21:18,409can actually see the spirits we can see

36900:21:14,960 --> 00:21:22,048the ghosts that's how come we have

37000:21:18,409 --> 00:21:26,460hundreds of pictures of ghosts and

371


00:21:22,048 --> 00:21:32,308Stroke a smoke is because we can see it

37200:21:26,460 --> 00:21:35,429and I see dark energy quite a bit not

37300:21:32,308 --> 00:21:38,730only out in the cemetery but other

37400:21:35,429 --> 00:21:43,590places and I can actually see the the

37500:21:38,730 --> 00:21:46,940the entity itself and I try my best to

37600:21:43,589 --> 00:21:50,250keep away from it and you know I keep

37700:21:46,940 --> 00:21:56,639the holy water with me that I get a

37800:21:50,250 --> 00:21:57,058local Catholic Church and so far go

37900:21:56,638 --> 00:21:59,490ahead

38000:21:57,058 --> 00:22:02,009well I I just have to able to answer

38100:21:59,490 --> 00:22:05,339question if I'm a spirit why do I want

38200:22:02,009 --> 00:22:06,149to want a cemetery you know that's a

38300:22:05,339 --> 00:22:18,178good question

38400:22:06,148 --> 00:22:20,518of course it is about answering it I'm

38500:22:18,179 --> 00:22:24,330


gonna play the dumb person I really

38600:22:20,519 --> 00:22:31,200don't know but I know I know I've found

38700:22:24,329 --> 00:22:35,099more entities in most cemeteries and I

38800:22:31,200 --> 00:22:40,860do that most haunted forts haunted

38900:22:35,099 --> 00:22:43,678hotels places that are known haunted the

39000:22:40,859 --> 00:22:46,618most haunted place I ever visited

39100:22:43,679 --> 00:22:50,460they had like hundreds of EVPs in there

39200:22:46,618 --> 00:22:51,329was a bordello and I can't remember the

39300:22:50,460 --> 00:22:55,079name of the

39400:22:51,329 --> 00:22:56,339we shot a segment of UFOs in the town

39500:22:55,079 --> 00:23:00,960which had nothing to do with the

39600:22:56,339 --> 00:23:02,959bordello but they had more EVP and the

39700:23:00,960 --> 00:23:07,470woman stay there for an hour who was

39800:23:02,960 --> 00:23:10,410running Li I say - recreated the you

39900:23:07,470 --> 00:23:14,430know the hotel going back to the day you


40000:23:10,410 --> 00:23:18,090know 18 40 50 whatever it was and I mean

40100:23:14,430 --> 00:23:19,830and unless the EVPs were all hoax then I

40200:23:18,089 --> 00:23:22,230don't see why it if you got a hoax an

40300:23:19,829 --> 00:23:23,970EVP maybe do one or two you're not going

40400:23:22,230 --> 00:23:25,500to come out with a you know why isn't I

40500:23:23,970 --> 00:23:27,750spend all the time they do does is it

40600:23:25,500 --> 00:23:30,089does very very spooky I don't know down

40700:23:27,750 --> 00:23:33,119upstairs and said bordello downstairs

40800:23:30,089 --> 00:23:35,369there's a bakery yeah well we've got

40900:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,289we've got our own EVPs coming up here in

41000:23:35,369 --> 00:23:39,149just a few seconds so we'll go to our

41100:23:37,289 --> 00:23:42,079break and we'll be back with more

41200:23:39,150 --> 00:23:42,080exploring

41300:23:45,799 --> 00:23:52,529now back to exploring the bazaars with


41400:23:49,950 --> 00:23:55,830two of the most electrifying researchers

41500:23:52,529 --> 00:24:02,970in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becky

41600:23:55,829 --> 00:24:05,309Lee panting swoops and welcome back to

41700:24:02,970 --> 00:24:08,450exploring the bazaar tonight we're

41800:24:05,309 --> 00:24:11,250talking about ghost hunting and

41900:24:08,450 --> 00:24:14,000paranormal photography I know that's

42000:24:11,250 --> 00:24:17,519something that I've been fascinated with

42100:24:14,000 --> 00:24:20,759for quite a long time I know I've told

42200:24:17,519 --> 00:24:24,569Tim before my own experience when I

42300:24:20,759 --> 00:24:27,990tried to use a video camera years and

42400:24:24,569 --> 00:24:33,349years ago to interview some people at a

42500:24:27,990 --> 00:24:36,210poltergeist haunting the batteries just

42600:24:33,349 --> 00:24:37,619drained in an instance and you know of

42700:24:36,210 --> 00:24:42,120course at that time that would have been

428


00:24:37,619 --> 00:24:44,819mm the early 1980s nobody really knew

42900:24:42,119 --> 00:24:47,250about that kind of phenomena but I tell

43000:24:44,819 --> 00:24:50,759you it was really disappointed when that

43100:24:47,250 --> 00:24:52,859happen but we're gonna bring D night the

43200:24:50,759 --> 00:24:54,869kentucky ghost hunter into the

43300:24:52,859 --> 00:25:00,299conversation now so i dean how you doing

43400:24:54,869 --> 00:25:03,479tonight pretty good what you know I just

43500:25:00,299 --> 00:25:06,809want to say before we get on with the

43600:25:03,480 --> 00:25:10,620interview my family at least my on my

43700:25:06,809 --> 00:25:12,539father's side was from Kentucky from the

43800:25:10,619 --> 00:25:16,409show we go I don't know how close that

43900:25:12,539 --> 00:25:21,089is where you are but my grandfather had

44000:25:16,410 --> 00:25:24,540a an experience apparently behind the

44100:25:21,089 --> 00:25:27,409barn and he never told he only talked

44200:25:24,539 --> 00:25:33,450


about this once and then he refused to

44300:25:27,410 --> 00:25:37,560discuss the subject again he was a very

44400:25:33,450 --> 00:25:40,769devout Baptist then factors as a rule

44500:25:37,559 --> 00:25:42,690don't believe in ghosts and if they do

44600:25:40,769 --> 00:25:45,869believe in spirits well then they have

44700:25:42,690 --> 00:25:49,680to be usually demonic and in nature

44800:25:45,869 --> 00:25:53,219anyway he was behind the bar one evening

44900:25:49,680 --> 00:25:55,650as I understand it and he ran into or

45000:25:53,220 --> 00:25:59,160maybe he was almost run into by

45100:25:55,650 --> 00:26:02,070a headless horseman in fact I want to

45200:25:59,160 --> 00:26:04,259ask you there are any number of cases

45300:26:02,069 --> 00:26:06,829involving headless horseman why they

45400:26:04,259 --> 00:26:09,480seem to pop up from time to time now I

45500:26:06,829 --> 00:26:11,669understand in this particular incident

45600:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,950involving my grandfather that there had


45700:26:11,670 --> 00:26:16,410been a skirmish between the north and

45800:26:13,950 --> 00:26:19,950the south there and apparently the

45900:26:16,410 --> 00:26:23,640skirmish had that the soldiers had had

46000:26:19,950 --> 00:26:25,470been blown off by a cannonball anyway

46100:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,540that's the story he never talked about

46200:26:25,470 --> 00:26:29,759it I never talked to him directly that

46300:26:27,539 --> 00:26:34,829was just word of mouth that was passed

46400:26:29,759 --> 00:26:38,099down tree yeah yeah that's a good story

46500:26:34,829 --> 00:26:41,220though the way it is indeed any anyway

46600:26:38,099 --> 00:26:44,519why don't you tell us how did you get

46700:26:41,220 --> 00:26:46,500involved in all of this and ghost

46800:26:44,519 --> 00:26:47,940hunting and what's the difference

46900:26:46,500 --> 00:26:50,490between the Kentucky ghosts that are

47000:26:47,940 --> 00:26:53,789vetti and anybody else from Ohio or


47100:26:50,490 --> 00:26:55,380Pennsylvania well from what I understand

47200:26:53,789 --> 00:27:00,690it's just a good name Kentucky ghost

47300:26:55,380 --> 00:27:04,470honor I'm about like it is but I guess

47400:27:00,690 --> 00:27:06,360it was back in 1999 I got involved in

47500:27:04,470 --> 00:27:08,579ghost I was kind of by accident somebody

47600:27:06,359 --> 00:27:11,099asked me to go out with him to cemetery

47700:27:08,579 --> 00:27:13,799and Mammoth Cave and take some pictures

47800:27:11,099 --> 00:27:15,059of a cemetery out there and we went out

47900:27:13,799 --> 00:27:17,220there and were goofing off for a while

48000:27:15,059 --> 00:27:20,669and we caught caught some what they call

48100:27:17,220 --> 00:27:22,579orbs and at first we didn't really know

48200:27:20,670 --> 00:27:24,960what they were I just thought it was

48300:27:22,579 --> 00:27:25,949basically water drops or bugs or

48400:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,500something like that that we took a

485


00:27:25,950 --> 00:27:30,299picture of and lo and behold we sent it

48600:27:28,500 --> 00:27:31,559to a professional photographer expert

48700:27:30,299 --> 00:27:33,149and he came back saying he didn't know

48800:27:31,559 --> 00:27:37,440what it was and he blew it up and it was

48900:27:33,150 --> 00:27:38,519a it was a funny looking I guess the

49000:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,140best way to describe it looked like a

49100:27:38,519 --> 00:27:42,960flower floating in the air once you blew

49200:27:40,140 --> 00:27:45,210it up except it was neon green and that

49300:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,269was my first official experience with an

49400:27:45,210 --> 00:27:50,160orb and since then I've been just doing

49500:27:48,269 --> 00:27:51,599some different things and somebody said

49600:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,950hey you're from Kentucky near a ghost

49700:27:51,599 --> 00:27:54,419town you must be the Kentucky ghost

49800:27:52,950 --> 00:27:58,200owner and ever since then the name just

49900:27:54,420 --> 00:28:01,080


stuck with me and it's 2018 I'm still

50000:27:58,200 --> 00:28:04,230going strong hunting ghosts and how many

50100:28:01,079 --> 00:28:07,199ghosts have you hunted probably quite a

50200:28:04,230 --> 00:28:08,160bit I guess my experience has have been

50300:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,240a little bit different like I said I've

50400:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,340been sitting back

50500:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,289the brightness I was biting my my lip

50600:28:11,339 --> 00:28:16,529for a little bit here because there's a

50700:28:13,289 --> 00:28:19,139question asked about why spirits are in

50800:28:16,529 --> 00:28:20,970cemeteries and I it's a theory of mine

50900:28:19,140 --> 00:28:22,980based on I'm going to answer it from my

51000:28:20,970 --> 00:28:25,650perspective because absolutely

51100:28:22,980 --> 00:28:28,289interesting but what I have found I've

51200:28:25,650 --> 00:28:32,070been to a lot of different places Bobby

51300:28:28,289 --> 00:28:33,629Mackey's been this from Edinburgh Asylum


51400:28:32,069 --> 00:28:36,539up and I what we just got back from it

51500:28:33,630 --> 00:28:38,400make a long story short everywhere I've

51600:28:36,539 --> 00:28:40,349ever went we've experienced I've always

51700:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,850asked a question or wires spiritual why

51800:28:40,349 --> 00:28:42,839in the heck do they stick around doesn't

51900:28:41,849 --> 00:28:45,059make any sense why are they in

52000:28:42,839 --> 00:28:48,149cemeteries and why is there always more

52100:28:45,059 --> 00:28:49,829than one and from what I've experienced

52200:28:48,150 --> 00:28:51,750it seems like there's always a dominant

52300:28:49,829 --> 00:28:53,759spirit involved somewhere a spirit that

52400:28:51,750 --> 00:28:56,599it's a little bit more powerful than

52500:28:53,759 --> 00:28:59,970everybody else and my group of myself

52600:28:56,599 --> 00:29:01,649have experienced a circumstance where we

52700:28:59,970 --> 00:29:04,200try to talk to spirit it would talk to


52800:29:01,650 --> 00:29:06,600this to a spirit box or through EVPs and

52900:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,789it would just shut up and we couldn't

53000:29:06,599 --> 00:29:11,129figure out what it was but my theory is

53100:29:08,789 --> 00:29:12,990and we've nicknamed them wardens is we

53200:29:11,130 --> 00:29:14,690believe that there is an entity there

53300:29:12,990 --> 00:29:16,769that is stronger than the rest of them I

53400:29:14,690 --> 00:29:18,240personally don't believe spirits are

53500:29:16,769 --> 00:29:19,889here on their own freewill I think if

53600:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,870they can move on they will and I think

53700:29:19,890 --> 00:29:23,880the weaker spirits are sometimes trapped

53800:29:21,869 --> 00:29:26,669in areas like cemeteries and haunted

53900:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,930houses and places like Bobby Mackey's in

54000:29:26,670 --> 00:29:29,820place like that because they don't have

54100:29:27,930 --> 00:29:31,440the strength to escape and this entity

542


00:29:29,819 --> 00:29:34,470we call a warden is holding them there

54300:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,720and won't let them go so when that

54400:29:34,470 --> 00:29:38,309question was asked why do a spirit stay

54500:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,850in the cemetery from my experience

54600:29:38,309 --> 00:29:43,559that's one of the reasons we have a

54700:29:40,849 --> 00:29:46,409cemetery up here in Kentucky it's in

54800:29:43,559 --> 00:29:48,419Ohio County that we go to several times

54900:29:46,410 --> 00:29:50,700we've not really had good experiences

55000:29:48,420 --> 00:29:52,130there we've caught things but we've had

55100:29:50,700 --> 00:29:54,960people that's been scratched

55200:29:52,130 --> 00:29:57,540we've got threatening EVPs and stuff

55300:29:54,960 --> 00:30:01,049like that there and it's always when we

55400:29:57,539 --> 00:30:03,089do find a entity there that is basically

55500:30:01,049 --> 00:30:05,129friendly it seems to be shut up and then

55600:30:03,089 --> 00:30:07,169


somebody takes over so that's just some

55700:30:05,130 --> 00:30:10,650examples of what we found in areas a lot

55800:30:07,170 --> 00:30:13,860of spirits to us what what does the EVP

55900:30:10,650 --> 00:30:16,769say well we can well let's just say one

56000:30:13,859 --> 00:30:18,449with the EVP just as an example we would

56100:30:16,769 --> 00:30:20,639hear some a little child say I'm going

56200:30:18,450 --> 00:30:22,980to kill IVA now you have to understand

56300:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,040that wasn't a threatening IVP

56400:30:22,980 --> 00:30:27,539what it was is like if a child would say

56500:30:25,039 --> 00:30:28,769drop somebody's totally in the South I'm

56600:30:27,539 --> 00:30:30,599gonna kill you for doing that

56700:30:28,769 --> 00:30:32,940well that's what it sounded like it was

56800:30:30,599 --> 00:30:35,339friendly but then another EVP we'd get

56900:30:32,940 --> 00:30:36,990we'd say quiet or hush or something like

57000:30:35,339 --> 00:30:39,629that and then we were dead we didn't


57100:30:36,990 --> 00:30:41,370hear anything else for a long time so in

57200:30:39,630 --> 00:30:42,600every instance we've seen something like

57300:30:41,369 --> 00:30:45,418that there has been an entity that's

57400:30:42,599 --> 00:30:48,509told somebody to stop or go away or just

57500:30:45,419 --> 00:30:54,540basically shut up and we've at that

57600:30:48,509 --> 00:30:56,279instance our evidence quit so it's just

57700:30:54,539 --> 00:30:58,558you know it's just a theory we've got

57800:30:56,279 --> 00:31:00,740and it's the theories been working out

57900:30:58,558 --> 00:31:04,139quite well we've had an instance weapon

58000:31:00,740 --> 00:31:05,759it's in Franklin Kentucky in Simpson

58100:31:04,140 --> 00:31:06,870County it's called the octagon Hall up

58200:31:05,759 --> 00:31:08,129there if there's anybody ever wants go

58300:31:06,869 --> 00:31:10,409investigate a place they need to go

58400:31:08,130 --> 00:31:13,919there it used to be a civil war hospital


58500:31:10,410 --> 00:31:16,019but we've used a X cam out there and a

58600:31:13,919 --> 00:31:19,049couple of things and we've captured the

58700:31:16,019 --> 00:31:21,869stick figure of a lady and it's actually

58800:31:19,048 --> 00:31:23,759our YouTube page but she's very friendly

58900:31:21,869 --> 00:31:26,069and then some other entity shows up and

59000:31:23,759 --> 00:31:28,500she disappears and we believe that that

59100:31:26,069 --> 00:31:30,089entity we had a medium there to psyche

59200:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,980at the same time they told me the guy

59300:31:30,089 --> 00:31:34,289didn't like us too much basically me

59400:31:31,980 --> 00:31:35,579didn't like too much and he was

59500:31:34,289 --> 00:31:37,769determined that we weren't going to talk

59600:31:35,579 --> 00:31:39,240to anybody there so those are just some

59700:31:37,769 --> 00:31:41,009of the experiences we have that's why

59800:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,120I'm saying you know but the cemetery

599


00:31:41,009 --> 00:31:43,289part when that question was asked

60000:31:42,119 --> 00:31:45,209there's a good chance to the most

60100:31:43,289 --> 00:31:46,440circumstances that the entities don't

60200:31:45,210 --> 00:31:49,829want to be there but they're forced to

60300:31:46,440 --> 00:31:54,000stay there in my opinion well now who do

60400:31:49,829 --> 00:31:58,949you think this is this dominating the

60500:31:54,000 --> 00:32:00,450force is well it's usually just somebody

60600:31:58,950 --> 00:32:02,669that's more powerful than the rest of

60700:32:00,450 --> 00:32:07,080them I believe there's a power in each

60800:32:02,669 --> 00:32:09,210of us and when you pass on somebody

60900:32:07,079 --> 00:32:11,609that's passed on before as it's just

61000:32:09,210 --> 00:32:13,200like if you play a sport use as an

61100:32:11,609 --> 00:32:15,029example if you go out and play sports

61200:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,919when you're three years old you're doing

61300:32:15,029 --> 00:32:18,000


good and when you get to be 31 or

61400:32:16,919 --> 00:32:20,100something like that you're doing great

61500:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,079you learn you learn what to do with your

61600:32:20,099 --> 00:32:23,519with your abilities and I think these

61700:32:22,079 --> 00:32:25,619spirits that are warns have learned what

61800:32:23,519 --> 00:32:27,119to do with their abilities and then when

61900:32:25,619 --> 00:32:28,529other spirits come on that do not have

62000:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,909the same knowledge they are actually

62100:32:28,529 --> 00:32:32,109trapped there because he won't let them

62200:32:29,910 --> 00:32:35,590or he she or it whatever it is

62300:32:32,109 --> 00:32:38,529on what what's the most haunted place

62400:32:35,589 --> 00:32:40,269you've ever visible I have to live most

62500:32:38,529 --> 00:32:43,480haunted places after me in Iowa which is

62600:32:40,269 --> 00:32:44,798Edinburgh and I we had some experiences

62700:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,099of one I won't talk about because I


62800:32:44,798 --> 00:32:49,629promised I wouldn't but I'm actually two

62900:32:48,099 --> 00:32:51,730of our individuals witnessed an

63000:32:49,630 --> 00:32:53,650apparition there when I was one of them

63100:32:51,730 --> 00:32:55,210and shocked the heck out I mean I was

63200:32:53,650 --> 00:32:56,380walking upstairs from the basement and I

63300:32:55,210 --> 00:32:59,350turned to look to the right and there

63400:32:56,380 --> 00:33:01,059was a man standing there he was fully

63500:32:59,349 --> 00:33:02,319dressed and he was looking at the door

63600:33:01,058 --> 00:33:04,990as soon as I turned looked at him he

63700:33:02,319 --> 00:33:07,298just disappeared and I said a few

63800:33:04,990 --> 00:33:08,890custards and when I do that they knew

63900:33:07,298 --> 00:33:10,480something was wrong my crew did and

64000:33:08,890 --> 00:33:11,710asked me what was wrong I said there's a

64100:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,230man it was standing right there but


64200:33:11,710 --> 00:33:16,480we've had some we've had some

64300:33:14,230 --> 00:33:18,130experiences there and let's just say

64400:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,599this at the end of the night I was

64500:33:18,130 --> 00:33:21,130outside with one of the crew members

64600:33:19,599 --> 00:33:23,740calming them down and the rest of the

64700:33:21,130 --> 00:33:25,540crew was quickly getting the equipment

64800:33:23,740 --> 00:33:26,829to get out of there so that was probably

64900:33:25,539 --> 00:33:28,720one of the scariest places we've ever

65000:33:26,829 --> 00:33:30,129been to and I think there too we were

65100:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,339dealing with a warden because you have

65200:33:30,130 --> 00:33:35,440to understand Edinburgh at one time when

65300:33:33,339 --> 00:33:37,480it first started it was a poorhouse

65400:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,830which meant that you know back in the

65500:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,360depression you don't have anywhere to go

656


00:33:38,829 --> 00:33:42,879or survive you went to this place it was

65700:33:40,359 --> 00:33:45,579a farmhouse and he would work for your

65800:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,770food and board by farming the land and

65900:33:45,579 --> 00:33:50,079then it eventually became a sort of like

66000:33:47,769 --> 00:33:52,750a YMCA on the bottom half of it on the

66100:33:50,079 --> 00:33:55,329top half it became what they called it

66200:33:52,750 --> 00:33:56,980insane asylum but you can understand

66300:33:55,329 --> 00:33:59,829back in the day of a sane asylum you

66400:33:56,980 --> 00:34:01,240know you could you could have a bipolar

66500:33:59,829 --> 00:34:04,119and they considered you being insane

66600:34:01,240 --> 00:34:07,900sometimes a lot of people tortured I

66700:34:04,119 --> 00:34:09,519mean yeah they had I guess they had over

66800:34:07,900 --> 00:34:11,050a hundred and eighty five confirmed

66900:34:09,519 --> 00:34:14,019deaths at this place a lot of more

67000:34:11,050 --> 00:34:15,220


suicides from the second floor and it

67100:34:14,019 --> 00:34:16,418was because people are put in there

67200:34:15,219 --> 00:34:18,189shouldn't have been put in there and

67300:34:16,418 --> 00:34:21,099they you know depression they committed

67400:34:18,190 --> 00:34:22,389suicide so the whole place is filled

67500:34:21,099 --> 00:34:25,750with a lot of negative energy especially

67600:34:22,389 --> 00:34:28,750upstairs and we felt it severely when we

67700:34:25,750 --> 00:34:30,909went there is this past week well if I

67800:34:28,750 --> 00:34:32,739were a spirit I would want to get the

67900:34:30,909 --> 00:34:35,619hell out of there I don't think I know

68000:34:32,739 --> 00:34:37,269that my whole point yes why would you

68100:34:35,619 --> 00:34:38,530stay there it doesn't make any sense

68200:34:37,269 --> 00:34:41,139why would you put yourself in a position

68300:34:38,530 --> 00:34:43,720to spend eternity in a place like that

68400:34:41,139 --> 00:34:45,970if you could leave the point is I just


68500:34:43,719 --> 00:34:49,779think they believe well here's the

68600:34:45,969 --> 00:34:51,189for you where do spirits go I mean

68700:34:49,780 --> 00:34:54,609suppose you break out of that or you're

68800:34:51,190 --> 00:34:57,369not in that you know that atmosphere

68900:34:54,608 --> 00:34:59,230being held captive somewhere you go to

69000:34:57,369 --> 00:35:01,420the summer land do you go to heaven do

69100:34:59,230 --> 00:35:05,050you go to hell do you go to a parallel

69200:35:01,420 --> 00:35:06,670universe are you reincarnated I think

69300:35:05,050 --> 00:35:08,170that's the 50 dollar question because we

69400:35:06,670 --> 00:35:10,059don't know I mean there's a lot of

69500:35:08,170 --> 00:35:12,460things in the paranormal world there's a

69600:35:10,059 --> 00:35:14,108lot of people say oh I'm an expert I'm a

69700:35:12,460 --> 00:35:15,159professional I know everything there is

69800:35:14,108 --> 00:35:16,179to know and they really don't know


69900:35:15,159 --> 00:35:18,339anything

70000:35:16,179 --> 00:35:19,750Kevon quantum on which works with me at

70100:35:18,340 --> 00:35:21,970Stone Creek reader natural and I work

70200:35:19,750 --> 00:35:23,230with a bunch of different groups but we

70300:35:21,969 --> 00:35:24,939were sitting down one time he said do me

70400:35:23,230 --> 00:35:27,429a favor he said draw a big circle on a

70500:35:24,940 --> 00:35:29,108piece of paper and I did that and he

70600:35:27,429 --> 00:35:30,549said okay that's all the knowledge of

70700:35:29,108 --> 00:35:31,989the universe and the paranormal world

70800:35:30,550 --> 00:35:33,250and everything and he said how much

70900:35:31,989 --> 00:35:35,858knowledge do you think we have right now

71000:35:33,250 --> 00:35:37,300and I could only draw a little dot in

71100:35:35,858 --> 00:35:39,460the middle of it because we hardly know

71200:35:37,300 --> 00:35:41,530anything that's going on we act like we

713


00:35:39,460 --> 00:35:42,909do and we think we do but the truth is

71400:35:41,530 --> 00:35:44,320sometimes we can get some dangerous

71500:35:42,909 --> 00:35:48,969positions because we're fooling with

71600:35:44,320 --> 00:35:50,830stuff we don't understand and if the bio

71700:35:48,969 --> 00:35:52,868you guys rose from an article I did in a

71800:35:50,829 --> 00:35:54,039newspaper and there was more to that

71900:35:52,869 --> 00:35:56,380interview than before but what I

72000:35:54,039 --> 00:35:58,358specifically told them was that we have

72100:35:56,380 --> 00:36:00,039to be careful about what we're dealing

72200:35:58,358 --> 00:36:01,869with because what we think we're dealing

72300:36:00,039 --> 00:36:03,099with we may not be and we could be

72400:36:01,869 --> 00:36:06,550getting into some serious trouble

72500:36:03,099 --> 00:36:08,559because nobody knows what spirit is we

72600:36:06,550 --> 00:36:11,260think we do we have an idea what it is

72700:36:08,559 --> 00:36:12,909


but a hundred years ago science thought

72800:36:11,260 --> 00:36:14,800that the universe was made the plasma

72900:36:12,909 --> 00:36:16,598now they know it's dark matter things

73000:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,800change you think you may know one thing

73100:36:16,599 --> 00:36:19,750one day and the next thing everything

73200:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,910changes because of a new discovery I

73300:36:19,750 --> 00:36:24,280think at this point we're at a phase of

73400:36:21,909 --> 00:36:25,420discovery just like we're going into a

73500:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,280new world we don't really know what

73600:36:25,420 --> 00:36:30,608we're dealing with and we need to kind

73700:36:27,280 --> 00:36:32,609of fall back and be careful about what

73800:36:30,608 --> 00:36:36,098we're doing especially if we start

73900:36:32,608 --> 00:36:37,449naming vortexes and portals and stuff

74000:36:36,099 --> 00:36:38,950like that we don't even know what they

74100:36:37,449 --> 00:36:42,338are what we're dealing we assume we do


74200:36:38,949 --> 00:36:43,750but we don't really know so a lot of

74300:36:42,338 --> 00:36:45,070people are first starting ghost hunting

74400:36:43,750 --> 00:36:46,510or something like that I say what you

74500:36:45,070 --> 00:36:49,000need to do is you need to go slow you

74600:36:46,510 --> 00:36:50,619need to know what you're doing it's like

74700:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,880my grandfather used to tell me you don't

74800:36:50,619 --> 00:36:52,480jump into a river to you know how to

74900:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,338swim

75000:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,659a lot of people jump into rivers without

75100:36:54,338 --> 00:36:59,059knowing how to swim and it gets into

75200:36:55,659 --> 00:37:02,449more trouble well what what could what

75300:36:59,059 --> 00:37:04,699kid what could ghosts in spirits be you

75400:37:02,449 --> 00:37:08,000talk about do you think that some of

75500:37:04,699 --> 00:37:09,980them could be from a parallel universe


75600:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,519or a parallel dimension

75700:37:09,980 --> 00:37:15,980are there certain hotspots with ghosts

75800:37:13,519 --> 00:37:18,949and spirits and another pair of

75900:37:15,980 --> 00:37:21,710phenomenon I'm gonna appear more

76000:37:18,949 --> 00:37:24,189frequently than other places well I

76100:37:21,710 --> 00:37:26,090think there is but we think there's also

76200:37:24,190 --> 00:37:27,920something that a lot of people need to

76300:37:26,090 --> 00:37:30,010be aware of I don't believe that the

76400:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,920apparition I saw was actually a spirit

76500:37:30,010 --> 00:37:35,090and I think it was more of a residual

76600:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,280something from the past that I saw in

76700:37:35,090 --> 00:37:39,110the future and you know I could go

76800:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,900really deep into this with you guys and

76900:37:39,110 --> 00:37:43,880I'm you know why not but right now we

770


00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:46,579know that the black hole's

77100:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,680have such a strong gravity can ripped it

77200:37:46,579 --> 00:37:50,480repulsion time so how do we know that's

77300:37:48,679 --> 00:37:52,279not affecting us right now we can see

77400:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,980into the past or the past can see us or

77500:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,300the future can see us I guess my main

77600:37:54,980 --> 00:37:57,590question would be for a lot of people to

77700:37:56,300 --> 00:38:00,950see apparitions is why in the world

77800:37:57,590 --> 00:38:03,470would a dress a ghost be dressed they

77900:38:00,949 --> 00:38:05,089didn't you know yeah why would they be

78000:38:03,469 --> 00:38:06,439dressed I don't think when you see an

78100:38:05,090 --> 00:38:08,600apparition that's dressed that you're

78200:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,920actually seeing a spirit I think you're

78300:38:08,599 --> 00:38:12,259seeing something that was there at one

78400:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,510


time and you're either if it is

78500:38:12,260 --> 00:38:16,130interdimensional you're seeing something

78600:38:14,510 --> 00:38:18,140from the past are you seeing something

78700:38:16,130 --> 00:38:19,280from the future through that process I

78800:38:18,139 --> 00:38:21,799don't believe that we're actually seeing

78900:38:19,280 --> 00:38:24,110a spirit because even if you're

79000:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,910religious and you go by what the Bible

79100:38:24,110 --> 00:38:28,309says and most people do when they're

79200:38:25,909 --> 00:38:30,739religious but every every religion that

79300:38:28,309 --> 00:38:34,039I ever know says that once the body dies

79400:38:30,739 --> 00:38:37,099the spirit leaves the body and it takes

79500:38:34,039 --> 00:38:39,559on a different form and I do not believe

79600:38:37,099 --> 00:38:41,659that when we leave the body at spirit

79700:38:39,559 --> 00:38:44,960farms we're going to be dressed in 1980

79800:38:41,659 --> 00:38:45,829garbs or you know 1870 garbs or whatever


79900:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,800it is I don't say we're going to keep

80000:38:45,829 --> 00:38:50,599our civil war uniforms on or something

80100:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,630like that I don't think we materialized

80200:38:50,599 --> 00:38:55,219back with clothes so I don't think those

80300:38:53,630 --> 00:38:56,390are actually spirits I could be wrong

80400:38:55,219 --> 00:38:57,889cuz like I said I don't have much

80500:38:56,389 --> 00:38:58,789knowledge compared to what we're going

80600:38:57,889 --> 00:39:02,059to find out tomorrow

80700:38:58,789 --> 00:39:09,139but well well I hope I hope god I hope

80800:39:02,059 --> 00:39:13,219God buys me a newest suit well you know

80900:39:09,139 --> 00:39:17,539that's that's right that's a story I

81000:39:13,219 --> 00:39:20,569I heard one time where the the

81100:39:17,539 --> 00:39:23,719interviewer was interviewing this person

81200:39:20,570 --> 00:39:25,760who was having a ghostly experience


81300:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,489where they had moved into a house and

81400:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,109the apparently the little lady who had

81500:39:28,489 --> 00:39:32,629lived there before was still living

81600:39:30,108 --> 00:39:36,170there and this person would would see

81700:39:32,630 --> 00:39:38,059this apparition and you know and she was

81800:39:36,170 --> 00:39:40,130dressed and everything like that well

81900:39:38,059 --> 00:39:44,599they brought a medium into the house and

82000:39:40,130 --> 00:39:48,980this medium would talk to the spirit and

82100:39:44,599 --> 00:39:52,400the spirit tole said that her natural

82200:39:48,980 --> 00:39:55,670form was more as she described it like a

82300:39:52,400 --> 00:40:00,139ball of energy but that she could

82400:39:55,670 --> 00:40:02,869impress herself upon the mind of

82500:40:00,139 --> 00:40:05,150somebody where they would think that

82600:40:02,869 --> 00:40:08,690they were seeing her and she could make

827


00:40:05,150 --> 00:40:11,240them see I guess her as she looked used

82800:40:08,690 --> 00:40:14,510to look or really any way that she

82900:40:11,239 --> 00:40:18,139wanted to look so you know I just I just

83000:40:14,510 --> 00:40:20,540always found that interesting because of

83100:40:18,139 --> 00:40:22,759you know that that question whether you

83200:40:20,539 --> 00:40:26,389know why why are there more naked ghost

83300:40:22,760 --> 00:40:28,339scene and also the the balls of energy

83400:40:26,389 --> 00:40:30,500that are photographed a lot of times as

83500:40:28,338 --> 00:40:33,469well because this this spirit said that

83600:40:30,500 --> 00:40:36,139her natural state was more like a ball

83700:40:33,469 --> 00:40:37,789of energy well I've been on a couple

83800:40:36,139 --> 00:40:39,409shows I've had people call in and asked

83900:40:37,789 --> 00:40:41,000me the same thing and the question I've

84000:40:39,409 --> 00:40:43,639always asked him is what was the

84100:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,880


apparition doing when you saw him and

84200:40:43,639 --> 00:40:49,608I'd say 99% of the time the apparition

84300:40:46,880 --> 00:40:53,059did the same thing day after day after

84400:40:49,608 --> 00:40:55,519day after day I had one lady that called

84500:40:53,059 --> 00:40:57,679in and said that she saw her husband who

84600:40:55,519 --> 00:40:58,789had passed away would walk across the

84700:40:57,679 --> 00:40:59,358living room floor and getting his

84800:40:58,789 --> 00:41:02,690easy-chair

84900:40:59,358 --> 00:41:03,529to watch wheel of fortune and you know I

85000:41:02,690 --> 00:41:04,820don't know if you're in the afterlife

85100:41:03,530 --> 00:41:09,050people want to watch wheel of fortune

85200:41:04,820 --> 00:41:10,910every day but that to me is more of a

85300:41:09,050 --> 00:41:12,830residual haunting of something that the

85400:41:10,909 --> 00:41:14,539man did for a long period of time over

85500:41:12,829 --> 00:41:15,799and over and over again I do believe


85600:41:14,539 --> 00:41:19,570there's an impression that can be made

85700:41:15,800 --> 00:41:22,609in you know in the universe we live in

85800:41:19,570 --> 00:41:24,380the energy or whatever it is it's done

85900:41:22,608 --> 00:41:26,179through our own personal energy but I

86000:41:24,380 --> 00:41:27,890believe she was seeing it residuals

86100:41:26,179 --> 00:41:29,989most every time I've ever experienced

86200:41:27,889 --> 00:41:32,509that it's been a residual haunting or

86300:41:29,989 --> 00:41:39,078what they call a residual haunting in my

86400:41:32,509 --> 00:41:42,849opinion course the Hawaiians the Native

86500:41:39,079 --> 00:41:48,740Hawaiians believed that that we have

86600:41:42,849 --> 00:41:53,059seven spiritual bodies and when we pass

86700:41:48,739 --> 00:41:55,838on those spiritual bodies all go in

86800:41:53,059 --> 00:41:59,450their own different directions but they

86900:41:55,838 --> 00:42:01,880represents they they have their own


87000:41:59,449 --> 00:42:07,278different types of characteristics some

87100:42:01,880 --> 00:42:10,789of them are a very low intelligent

87200:42:07,278 --> 00:42:14,599almost more like right like the animal

87300:42:10,789 --> 00:42:17,569part of you it's it's it figures a lot

87400:42:14,599 --> 00:42:19,039into like modern-day psychology you know

87500:42:17,568 --> 00:42:23,480with the it'd and the ego and things

87600:42:19,039 --> 00:42:26,359like that but the Hawaiians explanation

87700:42:23,480 --> 00:42:32,630for various kinds of hauntings is that

87800:42:26,358 --> 00:42:36,619these are the lower spirits from you

87900:42:32,630 --> 00:42:38,450know from you you know that the higher

88000:42:36,619 --> 00:42:40,608part of you you know the your your

88100:42:38,449 --> 00:42:43,219intelligence your personality that's

88200:42:40,608 --> 00:42:45,710gone on to someplace else but this lower

88300:42:43,219 --> 00:42:50,719part of you they're like you said it's

884


00:42:45,710 --> 00:42:53,599almost like a recording of your your

88500:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,488desires and your you know daily

88600:42:53,599 --> 00:42:57,349activities and things like that those

88700:42:55,489 --> 00:43:01,130are the ones that tend to stick around

88800:42:57,349 --> 00:43:03,200so to speak I believe the Egyptians had

88900:43:01,130 --> 00:43:04,608something like that too didn't they I'm

89000:43:03,199 --> 00:43:07,129not mistaken they believed sort of like

89100:43:04,608 --> 00:43:09,288the same thing yes yeah very much so

89200:43:07,130 --> 00:43:10,910yeah and you know it could because like

89300:43:09,289 --> 00:43:13,339I said we don't know really what goes on

89400:43:10,909 --> 00:43:15,768we die we can assume it we can guess we

89500:43:13,338 --> 00:43:17,389can you know beat on our chests and tell

89600:43:15,768 --> 00:43:18,469one person one thing that other person

89700:43:17,389 --> 00:43:21,409will beat on their chest and tell us

89800:43:18,469 --> 00:43:22,848


something else but I personally believe

89900:43:21,409 --> 00:43:25,818until the paranormal world comes

90000:43:22,849 --> 00:43:27,109together is one and we really put our

90100:43:25,818 --> 00:43:30,460heads together and start doing a

90200:43:27,108 --> 00:43:32,900detailed recording of what we do and

90300:43:30,460 --> 00:43:34,369actually have our evidence verified

90400:43:32,900 --> 00:43:36,950through other things except just our

90500:43:34,369 --> 00:43:38,450opinions until that happens that we're

90600:43:36,949 --> 00:43:40,279going to be in a stall mode

90700:43:38,449 --> 00:43:44,169people outside the paranormal world

90800:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,170believing you know what we represent

90900:43:44,349 --> 00:43:53,650well very you know I I do agree very

91000:43:48,409 --> 00:44:00,409much that our our current belief systems

91100:43:53,650 --> 00:44:02,869tend to reflect on to the investigations

91200:44:00,409 --> 00:44:05,509because if you look at the way that


91300:44:02,869 --> 00:44:07,280people would conduct paranormal

91400:44:05,510 --> 00:44:10,130investigations you know a hundred years

91500:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,230ago or you know all I can say in the

91600:44:10,130 --> 00:44:15,349days when the Fox sisters you know first

91700:44:12,230 --> 00:44:21,369started or then up into you know like

91800:44:15,349 --> 00:44:24,890where you had full-body apparitions in

91900:44:21,369 --> 00:44:26,809sitting rooms with seances under red

92000:44:24,889 --> 00:44:29,328lights and things like that you know

92100:44:26,809 --> 00:44:34,460people had a completely different idea

92200:44:29,329 --> 00:44:37,420of the afterlife and and why spirits

92300:44:34,460 --> 00:44:41,420would visit us then then really we do

92400:44:37,420 --> 00:44:43,130today so it'll be interesting to see and

92500:44:41,420 --> 00:44:47,088you know 50 years a hundred years time

92600:44:43,130 --> 00:44:49,789for now what you know what the ideas


92700:44:47,088 --> 00:44:54,699will be and whether or not the phenomena

92800:44:49,789 --> 00:44:57,019will reflect those beliefs back to us

92900:44:54,699 --> 00:44:58,818and I thought enough that we need to

93000:44:57,019 --> 00:44:59,869think about as far as that path whether

93100:44:58,818 --> 00:45:02,088you're going there think of the

93200:44:59,869 --> 00:45:04,940religious aspects to what we do if we

93300:45:02,088 --> 00:45:06,559can prove there is life after death that

93400:45:04,940 --> 00:45:08,720brings a whole new perspective on

93500:45:06,559 --> 00:45:11,449religion we're right now religion is

93600:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,909under attack a lot of people just

93700:45:11,449 --> 00:45:16,129flat-out refuse to believe that there is

93800:45:13,909 --> 00:45:18,679life after death at all and that we just

93900:45:16,130 --> 00:45:21,108you know absorb our energy into the

94000:45:18,679 --> 00:45:25,449universe and we're gone forever but well

941


00:45:21,108 --> 00:45:29,989I think it's because the the evidence

94200:45:25,449 --> 00:45:33,049has been withheld I mean okay you have

94300:45:29,989 --> 00:45:36,439all these shows on TV

94400:45:33,050 --> 00:45:39,560which to be are very dubious because

94500:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,630certainly you cannot go every week to a

94600:45:39,559 --> 00:45:43,429place and find that the place that

94700:45:41,630 --> 00:45:45,289you're going to respond it or see

94800:45:43,429 --> 00:45:48,159mysterious lights or hear things moving

94900:45:45,289 --> 00:45:51,050around I don't know I find them kind of

95000:45:48,159 --> 00:45:52,449just to me they're boring

95100:45:51,050 --> 00:45:54,740I mean to be honest

95200:45:52,449 --> 00:45:57,500it may be because I lived in a house

95300:45:54,739 --> 00:46:00,679that was I had only guys phenomenon in

95400:45:57,500 --> 00:46:03,980when I was you know growing up but the

95500:46:00,679 --> 00:46:06,619


you talk about how our belief system

95600:46:03,980 --> 00:46:08,750changes well you know there's a a belief

95700:46:06,619 --> 00:46:11,269system kind of flustered by John Muir

95800:46:08,750 --> 00:46:16,010but he's not the only one that says that

95900:46:11,269 --> 00:46:18,259the UFOs are actually coming here or one

96000:46:16,010 --> 00:46:21,500of their missions is to take our souls

96100:46:18,260 --> 00:46:26,240over to the other side now at first this

96200:46:21,500 --> 00:46:28,429may seem to be a downright weird and

96300:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,439unsubstantiated but you know I've

96400:46:28,429 --> 00:46:33,319written about in my book on the

96500:46:30,440 --> 00:46:40,990synchronicities about what I call the

96600:46:33,320 --> 00:46:44,240June 24th enigma June 24 1947 was the

96700:46:40,989 --> 00:46:46,639first of the modern day UFO sightings

96800:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,409Kenneth Arnold saw nine a gleaming

96900:46:46,639 --> 00:46:50,299crescent shaped objects over Mount


97000:46:48,409 --> 00:46:51,859Ranier flying information everybody

97100:46:50,300 --> 00:46:56,000knows the story we're repeating it over

97200:46:51,860 --> 00:46:58,400and over again but it's not

97300:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,219I guess very well known that at least a

97400:46:58,400 --> 00:47:04,820dozen UFO researchers have passed away

97500:47:01,219 --> 00:47:07,609on June 24th now it's not on a regular

97600:47:04,820 --> 00:47:09,470basis it's not every year but a dozen

97700:47:07,610 --> 00:47:14,059people on that day that were involved in

97800:47:09,469 --> 00:47:17,989UFO research is kind of a more than a

97900:47:14,059 --> 00:47:20,210coincidence I would say now those among

98000:47:17,989 --> 00:47:23,929those that have passed away on on the

98100:47:20,210 --> 00:47:28,010particular date will be frank Scully who

98200:47:23,929 --> 00:47:30,619wrote the before even Roswell was ever

98300:47:28,010 --> 00:47:33,310heard of wrote the book behind the


98400:47:30,619 --> 00:47:38,509flying saucers took about told about a

98500:47:33,309 --> 00:47:40,989UFO crash then there was Jackie Gleason

98600:47:38,510 --> 00:47:44,210who actually had one of the largest

98700:47:40,989 --> 00:47:46,129collection of UFO books of UFOs in the

98800:47:44,210 --> 00:47:50,269paranormal all right now I'm gonna have

98900:47:46,130 --> 00:47:52,420it here we have good or a break we'll be

99000:47:50,269 --> 00:47:52,420right

99100:48:00,880 --> 00:48:07,838explode the bazaars are your e-ticket

99200:48:05,329 --> 00:48:11,119ride into the world of the paranoid

99300:48:07,838 --> 00:48:15,429strap yourself in as we traverse the

99400:48:11,119 --> 00:48:18,548universe exploring the unexplained UFO s

99500:48:15,429 --> 00:48:20,929ghosts Lost Worlds

99600:48:18,548 --> 00:48:24,768cryptozoology waters as well as other

99700:48:20,929 --> 00:48:27,009dimensions it's time to take back the

998


00:48:24,768 --> 00:48:29,899NASA night

99900:48:27,009 --> 00:48:33,019now you are electrifying hosts of

100000:48:29,900 --> 00:48:41,719exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and

100100:48:33,018 --> 00:48:44,358team sports alright welcome back to the

100200:48:41,719 --> 00:48:47,208second power of exploring the bizarre

100300:48:44,358 --> 00:48:50,659and tonight our guests are Daryl agile

100400:48:47,208 --> 00:48:52,818and D night aka the Kentucky ghost

100500:48:50,659 --> 00:48:54,649hunter and typically I just wanted to

100600:48:52,818 --> 00:48:56,659make a quick comment you were talking

100700:48:54,650 --> 00:49:00,950about before we had to go to our last

100800:48:56,659 --> 00:49:04,038break about people like John Lear and I

100900:49:00,949 --> 00:49:08,478guess even Kenneth Arnold theorized that

101000:49:04,039 --> 00:49:12,380the UFOs were actually here as I guess

101100:49:08,478 --> 00:49:16,788transports for the the newly deceased

101200:49:12,380 --> 00:49:19,959


and you know that's that is a really old

101300:49:16,789 --> 00:49:24,650concept though I mean there are a lot of

101400:49:19,958 --> 00:49:28,518past societies that their myths and

101500:49:24,650 --> 00:49:31,910legends really had the same thing and I

101600:49:28,518 --> 00:49:34,129know this isn't probably he had hoped

101700:49:31,909 --> 00:49:37,129based on anything too factual but I

101800:49:34,130 --> 00:49:39,769remember the movie Darby O'Gill and the

101900:49:37,130 --> 00:49:42,048little people when one of the characters

102000:49:39,768 --> 00:49:44,298was getting ready to die you know like

102100:49:42,048 --> 00:49:48,048the the grim grim reaper showed up but

102200:49:44,298 --> 00:49:50,150he had the the carriage driven by horses

102300:49:48,048 --> 00:49:52,728that was going to you know take him away

102400:49:50,150 --> 00:49:57,519to the afterlife and yeah it just sounds

102500:49:52,728 --> 00:50:00,669to me like the these theories about ufos

102600:49:57,518 --> 00:50:04,548doing that it's just kind of modernizing


102700:50:00,670 --> 00:50:06,829these these older ideas so I believe

102800:50:04,548 --> 00:50:09,619what the Egyptian is going to take

102900:50:06,829 --> 00:50:12,739people in a boat over never Niles yes

103000:50:09,619 --> 00:50:13,960yeah that's right that's right so I mean

103100:50:12,739 --> 00:50:17,108it's it's a

103200:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,599you know everything old is new again you

103300:50:17,108 --> 00:50:23,429know you've got these old ideas that

103400:50:19,599 --> 00:50:28,630have been given a new given a new face a

103500:50:23,429 --> 00:50:30,879fresh coating of chrome and except

103600:50:28,630 --> 00:50:33,820instead of angels now you've got little

103700:50:30,880 --> 00:50:37,180guys with a little gray guys with big

103800:50:33,820 --> 00:50:39,160eyes who are taking our souls to the

103900:50:37,179 --> 00:50:40,960moon and that was our layer is thinking

104000:50:39,159 --> 00:50:43,539that there is something on the other


104100:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,220side of the Moon that yeah well and

104200:50:43,539 --> 00:50:50,108they're also coming with blowtorch yes

104300:50:45,219 --> 00:50:52,719so yeah okay oh you wrote you wrote

104400:50:50,108 --> 00:50:54,969about that in the UFO hostilities yeah I

104500:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,879write I write so much stuff Tim it's

104600:50:54,969 --> 00:51:00,250hard for me to remember sometimes

104700:50:56,880 --> 00:51:02,740butylated you don't you belated bodies

104800:51:00,250 --> 00:51:04,989oh yes that's right that's right well

104900:51:02,739 --> 00:51:08,259that's that's off that's off subject

105000:51:04,989 --> 00:51:11,949here well I wanted to I wanted to ask

105100:51:08,260 --> 00:51:15,640Darryl here we got a question that we

105200:51:11,949 --> 00:51:18,789had in the previous segment and Darryl

105300:51:15,639 --> 00:51:21,848this the question was was asking if you

105400:51:18,789 --> 00:51:25,539think that possibly you may be a medium

1055


00:51:21,849 --> 00:51:29,019or or you know maybe psychically gifted

105600:51:25,539 --> 00:51:31,179if you have the ability to to see you

105700:51:29,019 --> 00:51:36,338know like dark spirits and and dark

105800:51:31,179 --> 00:51:40,960energy well I believe that I have some

105900:51:36,338 --> 00:51:43,449sort of special gift yes there's been

106000:51:40,960 --> 00:51:47,579many times where we would be out in the

106100:51:43,449 --> 00:51:53,319cemetery or at a haunted location and

106200:51:47,579 --> 00:51:54,779actually see the spirits flying through

106300:51:53,320 --> 00:52:03,269the air

106400:51:54,780 --> 00:52:07,269they look like blue electric bolts just

106500:52:03,269 --> 00:52:13,659just going through the air and they they

106600:52:07,269 --> 00:52:16,449they fly very fast and you can if you've

106700:52:13,659 --> 00:52:20,829ever hunted like rabbits and you lead

106800:52:16,449 --> 00:52:23,949the rabbits well that's what we do when

106900:52:20,829 --> 00:52:26,369


we see these go by we will lead them

107000:52:23,949 --> 00:52:27,689just a little bit and then we will take

107100:52:26,369 --> 00:52:33,400photo

107200:52:27,690 --> 00:52:37,179we have hundreds of photographs that we

107300:52:33,400 --> 00:52:42,430would love to show people we've made a

107400:52:37,179 --> 00:52:47,109couple books and they just just out of

107500:52:42,429 --> 00:52:53,289this world yes I do believe that we have

107600:52:47,110 --> 00:52:59,789the ability to see the spirits and I am

107700:52:53,289 --> 00:53:03,989I have been training linda whitley to

107800:52:59,789 --> 00:53:09,699open up her eyes and open up her mind to

107900:53:03,989 --> 00:53:15,899actually see these and she is very good

108000:53:09,699 --> 00:53:22,319at it now and her and i we we are a good

108100:53:15,900 --> 00:53:27,519team out in the field and we just have

108200:53:22,320 --> 00:53:31,660more years more time to to get even more

108300:53:27,519 --> 00:53:36,369proof and evidence and hopefully we will


108400:53:31,659 --> 00:53:38,799get something extraordinary on film and

108500:53:36,369 --> 00:53:43,920that's my main goal that's my life's

108600:53:38,800 --> 00:53:46,870work is to do that now when it comes to

108700:53:43,920 --> 00:53:50,139paranormal photography i mean how did

108800:53:46,869 --> 00:53:54,639you how did you get interested in in

108900:53:50,139 --> 00:53:57,759trying to use you know cameras and

109000:53:54,639 --> 00:53:59,829photography to to assist you in in ghost

109100:53:57,760 --> 00:54:04,180i mean i know your your bio said that

109200:53:59,829 --> 00:54:06,639you you you taught photography in

109300:54:04,179 --> 00:54:07,449college is that is that correct yes I

109400:54:06,639 --> 00:54:14,579did

109500:54:07,449 --> 00:54:19,259I taught peripherals digital photography

109600:54:14,579 --> 00:54:23,380it was it was fun I loved it

109700:54:19,260 --> 00:54:26,250I've taken Oh God so many so many


109800:54:23,380 --> 00:54:29,740pictures of my own the whole life and

109900:54:26,250 --> 00:54:35,230once I started getting into the

110000:54:29,739 --> 00:54:36,549paranormal you know I got orbs and I

110100:54:35,230 --> 00:54:39,820thought that was the best thing in the

110200:54:36,550 --> 00:54:41,080world you know you know start now very

110300:54:39,820 --> 00:54:46,170young

110400:54:41,079 --> 00:54:51,579and then the orbs started getting well

110500:54:46,170 --> 00:54:55,180monotonous started getting so many even

110600:54:51,579 --> 00:55:00,039though I get extraordinary pictures of

110700:54:55,179 --> 00:55:04,419orbs I bet you I have to lead it at

110800:55:00,039 --> 00:55:08,139least a half a million orbs in the last

110900:55:04,420 --> 00:55:10,780past year or so we get with just get

111000:55:08,139 --> 00:55:14,500bombarded with them my thing is when I

111100:55:10,780 --> 00:55:18,430first got my good picture of spirit

1112


00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:21,010smoke that has been at that it was the

111300:55:18,429 --> 00:55:22,449Coupe de Gras that just turned me on

111400:55:21,010 --> 00:55:25,000like you wouldn't believe

111500:55:22,449 --> 00:55:29,349okay tell West what's what spirits smoke

111600:55:25,000 --> 00:55:35,469tell us what that is the ectoplasm the

111700:55:29,349 --> 00:55:41,670the smoke that emanates from spirits

111800:55:35,469 --> 00:55:49,000I believe my thought is the smoke is

111900:55:41,670 --> 00:55:54,820either before they turn into a full

112000:55:49,000 --> 00:55:59,500apparition or the after they were in the

112100:55:54,820 --> 00:56:02,880full apparition in other words my belief

112200:55:59,500 --> 00:56:06,820is the the spirit smoke is catching them

112300:56:02,880 --> 00:56:12,099either before or after and there are

112400:56:06,820 --> 00:56:13,960just so many I have a I have what you

112500:56:12,099 --> 00:56:18,699call a protector

112600:56:13,960 --> 00:56:26,110


she lives in Houston Texas and the

112700:56:18,699 --> 00:56:29,739protector protects me from all the evil

112800:56:26,110 --> 00:56:31,920stuff that I come in contact with she

112900:56:29,739 --> 00:56:36,609told me about three weeks ago she says

113000:56:31,920 --> 00:56:39,849you are wearing me out says what she

113100:56:36,610 --> 00:56:42,640says all the places that you go and all

113200:56:39,849 --> 00:56:44,829the things that you do you run into a

113300:56:42,639 --> 00:56:48,299lot of dark spirits a lot of dark

113400:56:44,829 --> 00:56:54,059entities and it's just wearing me out

113500:56:48,300 --> 00:56:58,500keeping you safe so the

113600:56:54,059 --> 00:57:01,769the entities to the smoke I believe is

113700:56:58,500 --> 00:57:09,750just catching them either before or

113800:57:01,769 --> 00:57:13,380after they actually you know were in the

113900:57:09,750 --> 00:57:17,750full-figured apparition or you know

114000:57:13,380 --> 00:57:22,980before or after that's what I think


114100:57:17,750 --> 00:57:24,269now can you can you see this smoke with

114200:57:22,980 --> 00:57:25,769you know with it with the naked eye

114300:57:24,269 --> 00:57:28,369before you take the pictures or do you

114400:57:25,769 --> 00:57:34,889take the pictures and the smoke appears

114500:57:28,369 --> 00:57:38,880on the film the most part probably 90%

114600:57:34,889 --> 00:57:45,719of it I see it with my eye you can

114700:57:38,880 --> 00:57:50,240actually see the the blue the the whole

114800:57:45,719 --> 00:57:57,239sky in a certain area is just

114900:57:50,239 --> 00:58:02,369illuminated with with bright blue light

115000:57:57,239 --> 00:58:05,250and that's when we will take a picture

115100:58:02,369 --> 00:58:08,239you know that's why I say when we see it

115200:58:05,250 --> 00:58:11,789we lead it you know like you you lead a

115300:58:08,239 --> 00:58:14,869rabbit and when we actually see this

115400:58:11,789 --> 00:58:21,869going on we take a picture of it and we


115500:58:14,869 --> 00:58:25,799have caught so many on on this film yet

115600:58:21,869 --> 00:58:28,920you know you talk about disappearing is

115700:58:25,800 --> 00:58:33,810like smoke are you familiar with the

115800:58:28,920 --> 00:58:36,720legend of the Djinn I've read oh I've

115900:58:33,809 --> 00:58:40,230read a little bit about the Djinn but as

116000:58:36,719 --> 00:58:43,769far as go hell they they are they aren't

116100:58:40,230 --> 00:58:48,980they are supposedly made of fireless

116200:58:43,769 --> 00:58:51,509smoke and that's how they appear to most

116300:58:48,980 --> 00:58:54,210members usually of the Islamic of faith

116400:58:51,510 --> 00:58:57,630but they could also be a pure year and

116500:58:54,210 --> 00:59:02,030we think of them as ghosts perhaps

116600:58:57,630 --> 00:59:02,030because they certainly are apparitional

116700:59:04,309 --> 00:59:10,170we've had that rosemary ellen guiley on

116800:59:07,018 --> 00:59:13,409who's written pretty extensible about

1169


00:59:10,170 --> 00:59:18,239the gin but they appear as like i say

117000:59:13,409 --> 00:59:21,298fire lets us know the students i bought

117100:59:18,239 --> 00:59:24,480yeah anyway that's a you know something

117200:59:21,298 --> 00:59:27,358to consider and maybe to look into why

117300:59:24,480 --> 00:59:38,190would they okay what i do ghosts appear

117400:59:27,358 --> 00:59:41,130transparent this open everybody this is

117500:59:38,190 --> 00:59:44,429my opinion and transparency energies

117600:59:41,130 --> 00:59:47,009transparent and the firm belief in the

117700:59:44,429 --> 00:59:50,190paranormal right now is that a spirit or

117800:59:47,009 --> 00:59:51,748whatever is energizing energy and i

117900:59:50,190 --> 00:59:53,009think they're transparents a lot of the

118000:59:51,748 --> 00:59:57,179time because of the fact that this

118100:59:53,009 --> 01:00:01,798energy yes I think that's a simple

118200:59:57,179 --> 01:00:05,848answer yes and I agree with that it is

118301:00:01,798 --> 01:00:09,028


it's nothing but energy and I also have

118401:00:05,849 --> 01:00:11,130had my cameras a lot of times go

118501:00:09,028 --> 01:00:13,498completely dead and my flashlight see

118601:00:11,130 --> 01:00:17,309how they they suck up energy you know

118701:00:13,498 --> 01:00:20,459that's what they thrive on and yes I

118801:00:17,309 --> 01:00:23,730agree you know it's spooky being

118901:00:20,460 --> 01:00:26,489somewhere and your lights just go dead

119001:00:23,730 --> 01:00:29,849and you're trying to find your way you

119101:00:26,489 --> 01:00:32,730know back to the car or whatever but you

119201:00:29,849 --> 01:00:34,440know I on the other hand you have either

119301:00:32,730 --> 01:00:38,548what do you can answer this or both of

119401:00:34,440 --> 01:00:41,039you in order do you have a ghost they're

119501:00:38,548 --> 01:00:44,489spirits that take on physical form and

119601:00:41,039 --> 01:00:47,730can leave footprints or handprints on

119701:00:44,489 --> 01:00:48,679the windows or something in to that


119801:00:47,730 --> 01:00:54,838effect

119901:00:48,679 --> 01:00:59,608well I believe they can because the the

120001:00:54,838 --> 01:01:04,318entity that lived with us it was able to

120101:00:59,608 --> 01:01:06,179move things it was able to touch it was

120201:01:04,318 --> 01:01:09,900able to pull the covers off so I you

120301:01:06,179 --> 01:01:16,268know why couldn't it leave a footprint

120401:01:09,900 --> 01:01:18,668say like in the sand or in sprinkle baby

120501:01:16,268 --> 01:01:22,598or something you know why couldn't leave

120601:01:18,668 --> 01:01:24,338a fingerprint somewhere well I've got an

120701:01:22,599 --> 01:01:25,749actual experience of that and I believe

120801:01:24,338 --> 01:01:27,278I've been trying to think of where it

120901:01:25,748 --> 01:01:29,678was I think it was at thornhaven this

121001:01:27,278 --> 01:01:31,119happened but I was and I when I go out I

121101:01:29,679 --> 01:01:33,338go out with different groups I don't


121201:01:31,119 --> 01:01:34,778really have a crew that's my own crew

121301:01:33,338 --> 01:01:36,278and once again I was going out with

121401:01:34,778 --> 01:01:38,889Stone Creek preternatural out of

121501:01:36,278 --> 01:01:40,088Cincinnati and they have a medium there

121601:01:38,889 --> 01:01:42,369that's a really good friend of mine her

121701:01:40,088 --> 01:01:45,668name is Denise Wilkins and Kevin Robbins

121801:01:42,369 --> 01:01:48,489our lead investigator but make a long

121901:01:45,668 --> 01:01:51,668story short she was upstairs and she was

122001:01:48,489 --> 01:01:53,228sensing children and when she came

122101:01:51,668 --> 01:01:55,958downstairs somebody said what's that on

122201:01:53,228 --> 01:01:57,368your back and Kevin turned around put a

122301:01:55,958 --> 01:02:00,338light on it she actually had a child's

122401:01:57,369 --> 01:02:02,259handprint on her back and that pictures

122501:02:00,338 --> 01:02:03,909actually on the website kentucky ghost

1226


01:02:02,259 --> 01:02:06,128on her comp anybody wanted to look at it

122701:02:03,909 --> 01:02:09,639when the picture section but you can see

122801:02:06,128 --> 01:02:11,588a complete it is it's like it's like

122901:02:09,639 --> 01:02:13,659somebody put their hand in dust and then

123001:02:11,588 --> 01:02:14,949put it on her back so I don't know what

123101:02:13,659 --> 01:02:16,148that how to explain that but they

123201:02:14,949 --> 01:02:18,039actually left the fingerprint on her

123301:02:16,148 --> 01:02:20,018back and Kevin put his hand up next to

123401:02:18,039 --> 01:02:20,759hers to show that it was a child's

123501:02:20,018 --> 01:02:23,828handprint

123601:02:20,759 --> 01:02:25,148so I know 100 percent positive they can

123701:02:23,829 --> 01:02:26,528leave marks like that or they can leave

123801:02:25,148 --> 01:02:27,818their impressions if they really want to

123901:02:26,528 --> 01:02:29,829I don't know how they do it but I know

124001:02:27,818 --> 01:02:31,628


they do it well you know it's funny that

124101:02:29,829 --> 01:02:35,369you should mention that because just

124201:02:31,628 --> 01:02:42,368this evening I'm working on our next

124301:02:35,369 --> 01:02:46,108book which is on Oh like the sexual

124401:02:42,369 --> 01:02:51,039relation between aliens and humans and

124501:02:46,108 --> 01:02:53,228we have a lady Eva down in the blue

124601:02:51,039 --> 01:02:55,389she's in Texas too if I'm right

124701:02:53,228 --> 01:02:57,938who has written a book called the love

124801:02:55,389 --> 01:03:02,199bite and she's investigated many many

124901:02:57,938 --> 01:03:07,538cases of this nature and apparently

125001:03:02,199 --> 01:03:10,989under fluorescent lion a she is able to

125101:03:07,539 --> 01:03:15,539find the markings on people's of bodies

125201:03:10,989 --> 01:03:20,739that these let's call them entities for

125301:03:15,539 --> 01:03:23,259lack of a more sufficient term and some

125401:03:20,739 --> 01:03:27,548of the people she says have actually


125501:03:23,259 --> 01:03:30,010been branded by like what she describes

125601:03:27,548 --> 01:03:31,929as aliens but they could be a pair

125701:03:30,010 --> 01:03:34,330normal or some other sort of uh

125801:03:31,929 --> 01:03:35,889phenomena and people interpret him

125901:03:34,329 --> 01:03:38,279accordingly you know of course

126001:03:35,889 --> 01:03:42,129throughout history we had all these

126101:03:38,280 --> 01:03:47,590stories regarding Tsukuba and Incubus

126201:03:42,130 --> 01:03:52,300that supposedly came at night and made

126301:03:47,590 --> 01:03:56,740it or made love or molested human beings

126401:03:52,300 --> 01:04:00,880so again what's uh what's old as made

126501:03:56,739 --> 01:04:02,139new again when I was in the in the

126601:04:00,880 --> 01:04:05,110paranormal world I'm sure you guys have

126701:04:02,139 --> 01:04:07,299heard about this but there is a my wife

126801:04:05,110 --> 01:04:09,220Chris she she's had this experience


126901:04:07,300 --> 01:04:11,500several times I think two or three times

127001:04:09,219 --> 01:04:13,899about where they actually an entity will

127101:04:11,500 --> 01:04:16,869touch us or go through it and we three

127201:04:13,900 --> 01:04:18,820marks on who they call them scratches

127301:04:16,869 --> 01:04:21,250and they say it's demonic and everything

127401:04:18,820 --> 01:04:23,050but there's two different theories that

127501:04:21,250 --> 01:04:24,130one is they're demonic and another is if

127601:04:23,050 --> 01:04:25,750you're dealing with energy and the

127701:04:24,130 --> 01:04:27,820energy pushes against you we don't have

127801:04:25,750 --> 01:04:30,190a clue what that effect will have on our

127901:04:27,820 --> 01:04:31,630body that could just be a spirit or

128001:04:30,190 --> 01:04:34,119entity just trying to say hey Here I am

128101:04:31,630 --> 01:04:36,039and the results of them touching you

128201:04:34,119 --> 01:04:37,480causes with three marks but that's sort

1283


01:04:36,039 --> 01:04:41,139of like a branding thing - there's a lot

128401:04:37,480 --> 01:04:42,849of people in those again it's

128501:04:41,139 --> 01:04:45,909interesting that note the similarity

128601:04:42,849 --> 01:04:48,219between ghostly phenomenon and the UFO

128701:04:45,909 --> 01:04:50,769phenomena in fact I think more and more

128801:04:48,219 --> 01:04:53,799people are beginning to see that there

128901:04:50,769 --> 01:04:56,110is a certain unity or correlation

129001:04:53,800 --> 01:04:59,440between pretty much everything that goes

129101:04:56,110 --> 01:05:01,539on in the well you know if you think

129201:04:59,440 --> 01:05:04,929about it it's basically the same thing

129301:05:01,539 --> 01:05:07,420if we if we die or we pass on we're not

129401:05:04,929 --> 01:05:09,849meant to be here we're really aliens

129501:05:07,420 --> 01:05:12,070here so if you think about it it's the

129601:05:09,849 --> 01:05:13,719same exactly yes if they're you know and

129701:05:12,070 --> 01:05:15,309


I'm saying if I believe in it but some

129801:05:13,719 --> 01:05:17,649people don't but if there is you know

129901:05:15,309 --> 01:05:19,329angels and stuff like that they didn't

130001:05:17,650 --> 01:05:21,039come from Earth they came from somewhere

130101:05:19,329 --> 01:05:23,199outside of Earth so by definition of

130201:05:21,039 --> 01:05:27,550science those are aliens food so you

130301:05:23,199 --> 01:05:30,099know it is courtly we have a closer

130401:05:27,550 --> 01:05:32,620friend and associate there's a show

130501:05:30,099 --> 01:05:34,539and I'm not an overly religious person

130601:05:32,619 --> 01:05:36,639I've had a few administers who were

130701:05:34,539 --> 01:05:39,039friends of mine mainly because they were

130801:05:36,639 --> 01:05:42,539interested in your clothes but Reverend

130901:05:39,039 --> 01:05:44,110Barry downing has written a book on UFO

131001:05:42,539 --> 01:05:47,170rebel

131101:05:44,110 --> 01:05:49,870relations that we published recently and


131201:05:47,170 --> 01:05:51,730he sees most of the things or a lot of

131301:05:49,869 --> 01:05:55,539the things that took place in the Bible

131401:05:51,730 --> 01:05:58,059is actually being physical in nature in

131501:05:55,539 --> 01:05:59,619other words the angels were real I mean

131601:05:58,059 --> 01:06:02,320they weren't just something that could

131701:05:59,619 --> 01:06:03,219materialize home although I guess it

131801:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,380could do that too

131901:06:03,219 --> 01:06:07,029but they were they were flesh flesh and

132001:06:05,380 --> 01:06:10,930blood and they might have come down in a

132101:06:07,030 --> 01:06:13,360yeah a UFO and if Jesus really was

132201:06:10,929 --> 01:06:15,819lifted in the heaven he could have gone

132301:06:13,360 --> 01:06:20,980there in some sort of what we would call

132401:06:15,820 --> 01:06:24,490a spaceship so maybe heaven is really up

132501:06:20,980 --> 01:06:25,809among the stars but you have to you know


132601:06:24,489 --> 01:06:28,569let's go really deep here since you

132701:06:25,809 --> 01:06:30,159brought it up yeah you have to think of

132801:06:28,570 --> 01:06:33,700it this way before the universe was

132901:06:30,159 --> 01:06:35,619created what was out there nobody really

133001:06:33,699 --> 01:06:37,299knows the science now knows that the

133101:06:35,619 --> 01:06:40,119hearse being bomb or not the earth but

133201:06:37,300 --> 01:06:42,550the universe is being bombarded by dark

133301:06:40,119 --> 01:06:44,589matter on a constant basis so that

133401:06:42,550 --> 01:06:45,940probably gives us a good detail that

133501:06:44,590 --> 01:06:47,410outside of our universe is another

133601:06:45,940 --> 01:06:50,230universe that's mostly made up of dark

133701:06:47,409 --> 01:06:51,579matter which does not have light because

133801:06:50,230 --> 01:06:52,990light really can't go through dark

133901:06:51,579 --> 01:06:55,869matter that's why they call it dark

1340


01:06:52,989 --> 01:06:58,689matter and if that be the case when God

134101:06:55,869 --> 01:07:00,549created light it would have been the

134201:06:58,690 --> 01:07:02,760first light because of outside the

134301:07:00,550 --> 01:07:05,170universe I wouldn't have been lying so

134401:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,760if there is angels that's where they

134501:07:05,170 --> 01:07:08,740came from was actually outside of our

134601:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,330universe to here on earth which means

134701:07:08,739 --> 01:07:11,379that you know people say they're dark

134801:07:10,329 --> 01:07:13,809spirits well that would kind of

134901:07:11,380 --> 01:07:16,000correlate with what what you could

135001:07:13,809 --> 01:07:17,789consider an angel that has fallen from

135101:07:16,000 --> 01:07:20,440somewhere that doesn't have light to be

135201:07:17,789 --> 01:07:22,029and you know we have shadow figures we

135301:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,619have all this other stuff and if you're

135401:07:22,030 --> 01:07:26,590


religious like that like I said this is

135501:07:23,619 --> 01:07:29,380really neat but you could correlate or

135601:07:26,590 --> 01:07:31,180say hey look that's why we see shadow

135701:07:29,380 --> 01:07:32,650figures and we have entities that hide

135801:07:31,179 --> 01:07:37,779in the darker because they just don't

135901:07:32,650 --> 01:07:39,700like the light I think that right now

136001:07:37,780 --> 01:07:44,740they're saying that the universe is made

136101:07:39,699 --> 01:07:49,089up of at least was it 70 or 80% of dark

136201:07:44,739 --> 01:07:50,529matter and dark energy so yeah I mean

136301:07:49,090 --> 01:07:52,240it's two equals four you should keep

136401:07:50,530 --> 01:07:53,890with it I guess it's one night that's

136501:07:52,239 --> 01:07:57,209all you so tell me sometimes I'm on the

136601:07:53,889 --> 01:07:57,210wrong page of a two page novel

136701:07:58,349 --> 01:08:03,190like determines your philosophy I guess

136801:08:01,960 --> 01:08:07,929whether you're on the right page or the


136901:08:03,190 --> 01:08:09,460wrong page the least I guess Darrell I

137001:08:07,929 --> 01:08:10,539want to ask you where we're coming up we

137101:08:09,460 --> 01:08:12,630got about four minutes until our

137201:08:10,539 --> 01:08:14,889breakout wouldn't you would you go out

137301:08:12,630 --> 01:08:16,869ghost hunting with your cameras what

137401:08:14,889 --> 01:08:19,809kind of cameras do you use I mean you

137501:08:16,869 --> 01:08:23,019know using anything special polarizing

137601:08:19,810 --> 01:08:26,140filters and farad things like that well

137701:08:23,020 --> 01:08:33,190I'll be honest with you uh Linda she

137801:08:26,140 --> 01:08:38,338uses a $130 luminix camera I think it's

137901:08:33,189 --> 01:08:42,960uh eight megapixel I have a Canon 16

138001:08:38,338 --> 01:08:49,000megapixel sure shop and I just bought a

138101:08:42,960 --> 01:08:51,850really nice Canon camcorder so you know

138201:08:49,000 --> 01:08:58,140you you don't have to go into high


138301:08:51,850 --> 01:09:03,730dollar equipment to get these things

138401:08:58,140 --> 01:09:07,060just ordinary cameras you know eight

138501:09:03,729 --> 01:09:09,189eight megapixel or you know and bigger

138601:09:07,060 --> 01:09:11,770you know I would I would suggest to

138701:09:09,189 --> 01:09:16,210anyone didn't want to do this

138801:09:11,770 --> 01:09:18,310no no special filters you know just out

138901:09:16,210 --> 01:09:19,960of the box out of the store camera

139001:09:18,310 --> 01:09:23,529mm-hmm

139101:09:19,960 --> 01:09:26,798have you used film cameras so I mean is

139201:09:23,529 --> 01:09:29,440there any difference between digital and

139301:09:26,798 --> 01:09:32,319a film camera you know the ability to be

139401:09:29,439 --> 01:09:33,338able to capture paranormal images no

139501:09:32,319 --> 01:09:36,880there isn't

139601:09:33,338 --> 01:09:41,199I have had SLR as I have you know the

1397


01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:50,289film cameras and and caught smoke of

139801:09:41,199 --> 01:09:56,429called warps no really there isn't I had

139901:09:50,289 --> 01:10:02,619I went to a st. Augustine and I had a

140001:09:56,430 --> 01:10:05,500really good ghost picture and I went to

140101:10:02,619 --> 01:10:08,439I was warned I knew what it was but I

140201:10:05,500 --> 01:10:09,599was warning at professionals you know

140301:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,658opinion

140401:10:09,599 --> 01:10:15,328so I took it to a photographer now says

140501:10:12,658 --> 01:10:20,309what is this but he looked at and he

140601:10:15,328 --> 01:10:25,920says well it couldn't be added he says

140701:10:20,310 --> 01:10:29,039whatever was on your film it that it got

140801:10:25,920 --> 01:10:34,920in between you know the camera lens and

140901:10:29,039 --> 01:10:39,800it you know so whatever you take a

141001:10:34,920 --> 01:10:43,500picture of like like entities orbs

141101:10:39,800 --> 01:10:45,060


that's usually you know like WYSIWYG you

141201:10:43,500 --> 01:10:47,729know what you see is what you get you

141301:10:45,060 --> 01:10:51,539know and you don't have to have

141401:10:47,729 --> 01:10:56,669Photoshop or any of that stuff to add it

141501:10:51,539 --> 01:11:00,479on words and spirits are real and you

141601:10:56,670 --> 01:11:03,569know like my website you know says yeah

141701:11:00,479 --> 01:11:05,698I am trying to prove it each and every

141801:11:03,569 --> 01:11:08,819day you know and a lot of people you

141901:11:05,698 --> 01:11:11,638know they don't believe spirits or orbs

142001:11:08,819 --> 01:11:15,328they don't believe some of the pictures

142101:11:11,639 --> 01:11:20,099but I'll tell you what everybody here in

142201:11:15,328 --> 01:11:22,488the Grange Park Illinois just about God

142301:11:20,099 --> 01:11:25,380about 98% of them all convinced that

142401:11:22,488 --> 01:11:28,919there is afterlife and it's real buddy

142501:11:25,380 --> 01:11:31,260yeah all right well we need to go to our


142601:11:28,920 --> 01:11:33,420break because that's definitely real so

142701:11:31,260 --> 01:11:35,820when we come back we'll be at the last

142801:11:33,420 --> 01:11:38,090segment of exploring the bizarre so stay

142901:11:35,819 --> 01:11:38,090tuned

143001:11:38,470 --> 01:11:45,199now back to exploring the bazaars with

143101:11:42,619 --> 01:11:48,500two of the most electrifying researchers

143201:11:45,199 --> 01:11:53,989in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becky

143301:11:48,500 --> 01:11:56,779Lee panting Swift's all right welcome

143401:11:53,989 --> 01:11:58,939back to the final segment of exploring

143501:11:56,779 --> 01:12:00,800the bazaar and as always when we reach

143601:11:58,939 --> 01:12:03,439this point it just amazes me how fast

143701:12:00,800 --> 01:12:07,880time goes by when we have such

143801:12:03,439 --> 01:12:10,159fascinating guests so Dean I wanted to

143901:12:07,880 --> 01:12:15,500ask you now Darrell in a previous


144001:12:10,159 --> 01:12:17,510segment had talked about how at least

144101:12:15,500 --> 01:12:21,949one time maybe several times you know

144201:12:17,510 --> 01:12:23,570like unfriendly spirits or well maybe

144301:12:21,949 --> 01:12:26,960just two friendly spirits I don't know

144401:12:23,569 --> 01:12:32,960had had actually followed him home and

144501:12:26,960 --> 01:12:35,899I've seen some of these reality ghost

144601:12:32,960 --> 01:12:38,800hunting shows where you've you you you

144701:12:35,899 --> 01:12:42,409have the investigators and I'll put

144801:12:38,800 --> 01:12:45,710quotation marks around that word they'll

144901:12:42,409 --> 01:12:48,170go to these places and they'll yell at

145001:12:45,710 --> 01:12:50,300the spirits or call them bad names or

145101:12:48,170 --> 01:12:52,880you know actually even go as far as to

145201:12:50,300 --> 01:12:55,100invite them to come home with them and

145301:12:52,880 --> 01:12:57,640to me that just sounds just that's just

1454


01:12:55,100 --> 01:13:00,350so reckless I mean you know have you had

145501:12:57,640 --> 01:13:02,590similar experiences to you know what

145601:13:00,350 --> 01:13:05,060what Darryl has talking about or

145701:13:02,590 --> 01:13:08,539have you been you know lucky and you

145801:13:05,060 --> 01:13:09,920know kept yourself fairly protected well

145901:13:08,539 --> 01:13:13,460I guess I've been lucky and kept myself

146001:13:09,920 --> 01:13:14,659fairly protected like I said he said you

146101:13:13,460 --> 01:13:16,279know sometimes ghost hunters were

146201:13:14,659 --> 01:13:17,630special my mom used to say I was real

146301:13:16,279 --> 01:13:18,319special when I was a child so maybe

146401:13:17,630 --> 01:13:20,350that's it

146501:13:18,319 --> 01:13:23,119they just don't want to go home with me

146601:13:20,350 --> 01:13:25,460I have had some experiences out there

146701:13:23,119 --> 01:13:28,519where there had been spirits just went

146801:13:25,460 --> 01:13:29,720


home with people one in particular was a

146901:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,190friend of mine at the Bowling Green

147001:13:29,720 --> 01:13:35,539Kentucky he's actually a ghost Turner

147101:13:31,189 --> 01:13:37,159himself he well a couple years ago he

147201:13:35,539 --> 01:13:39,380did a couple shows with me they called

147301:13:37,159 --> 01:13:41,779him Kentucky the seeing ghost hunter

147401:13:39,380 --> 01:13:43,880because he was a karaoke guy and a

147501:13:41,779 --> 01:13:46,130terrible voice but he did sing sometimes

147601:13:43,880 --> 01:13:48,590and scared a lot of people away that's a

147701:13:46,130 --> 01:13:51,139totally different subject but he was at

147801:13:48,590 --> 01:13:54,050the octagon house in Franklin Kentucky

147901:13:51,139 --> 01:13:55,399they had a spiritual medium there who I

148001:13:54,050 --> 01:13:56,840think she doesn't like every year on

148101:13:55,399 --> 01:13:58,849Halloween you know how these haunted

148201:13:56,840 --> 01:14:01,519houses have their big Halloween haunted


148301:13:58,849 --> 01:14:04,219house extravaganza or whatever isn't

148401:14:01,519 --> 01:14:05,539really and he was there doing that he

148501:14:04,219 --> 01:14:07,969walked around her and then when he went

148601:14:05,538 --> 01:14:10,998home he woke up in the middle of night

148701:14:07,969 --> 01:14:14,479joking and he said that he looked up and

148801:14:10,998 --> 01:14:16,908there was a dark entity above him that

148901:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,489was just standing there and he said it

149001:14:16,908 --> 01:14:21,168was it looked like a Civil War soldier

149101:14:18,488 --> 01:14:24,018that would have been injured world

149201:14:21,168 --> 01:14:25,519famous headless horseman I guess but it

149301:14:24,019 --> 01:14:28,699was standing above him and he told it it

149401:14:25,519 --> 01:14:30,050had to go home and his girlfriend woke

149501:14:28,698 --> 01:14:32,898up and said that he was talking in

149601:14:30,050 --> 01:14:35,288somebody else's voice and the gentleman


149701:14:32,899 --> 01:14:37,610told me that what happened was that he

149801:14:35,288 --> 01:14:40,029began speaking but he didn't know what

149901:14:37,609 --> 01:14:42,828he was saying and it wasn't his voice so

150001:14:40,029 --> 01:14:44,090there is instances I know of it and

150101:14:42,828 --> 01:14:46,188there's other things that's happened

150201:14:44,090 --> 01:14:49,340like that too but there is a lot of a

150301:14:46,189 --> 01:14:52,039lot of that going on that people don't

150401:14:49,340 --> 01:14:53,239really realize and the ghost shows I

150501:14:52,038 --> 01:14:54,529mean I got say something about those are

150601:14:53,238 --> 01:14:55,759probably the worst things that for the

150701:14:54,529 --> 01:14:57,198paranormal world you could ever think

150801:14:55,760 --> 01:15:00,229yes thank you

150901:14:57,198 --> 01:15:01,609yeah yes I have and I'm not going to

151001:15:00,229 --> 01:15:02,899mention any shows but I've went behind

1511


01:15:01,609 --> 01:15:05,058some of those shows and done

151201:15:02,899 --> 01:15:08,179investigations and the people on those

151301:15:05,059 --> 01:15:10,729you know those haunted places they go to

151401:15:08,179 --> 01:15:12,260can take some serious stories about when

151501:15:10,729 --> 01:15:13,939they don't catch stuff what they do to

151601:15:12,260 --> 01:15:16,309catch stuff down the road and they call

151701:15:13,939 --> 01:15:18,918it drama to dramatize our dramatization

151801:15:16,309 --> 01:15:22,248or something or a sensation yeah yeah to

151901:15:18,918 --> 01:15:25,219keep the ratings up and you know if you

152001:15:22,248 --> 01:15:27,349guys I've been on a lot of ghost hunts

152101:15:25,219 --> 01:15:30,380and and I've been on a lot of

152201:15:27,349 --> 01:15:31,849investigations those guys catch more

152301:15:30,380 --> 01:15:33,649than anybody I've ever seen in my life

152401:15:31,849 --> 01:15:35,208and they get possessed more than anybody

152501:15:33,649 --> 01:15:36,860


I've seen in my life like it's scratched

152601:15:35,208 --> 01:15:39,828more than anybody seen in my life

152701:15:36,859 --> 01:15:41,058I just my personal opinion is they're

152801:15:39,828 --> 01:15:42,590probably one of the worst things for the

152901:15:41,059 --> 01:15:44,119paranormal world there is because when

153001:15:42,590 --> 01:15:46,369people that don't believe look at those

153101:15:44,118 --> 01:15:47,299things the first thing they say is these

153201:15:46,368 --> 01:15:51,188guys are crazy

153301:15:47,300 --> 01:15:53,208and he legitimizes everything we do I

153401:15:51,189 --> 01:15:54,168just had to put that plug in there

153501:15:53,208 --> 01:15:58,219because you guys were talking about

153601:15:54,168 --> 01:16:01,130shelves and stuff no no no fact what

153701:15:58,219 --> 01:16:03,168you're saying though it is a and I tell

153801:16:01,130 --> 01:16:04,309this to everybody we did I said like a

153901:16:03,168 --> 01:16:04,939beginning here we don't know what we're


154001:16:04,309 --> 01:16:07,940dealing with

154101:16:04,939 --> 01:16:10,189and a lot of times and I'm sure the

154201:16:07,939 --> 01:16:11,449other guests will verify this force too

154301:16:10,189 --> 01:16:14,119when people go out and they take

154401:16:11,449 --> 01:16:15,170photographs and stuff they really need

154501:16:14,119 --> 01:16:16,670to know what they're photographing

154601:16:15,170 --> 01:16:18,949before they presented his evidence

154701:16:16,670 --> 01:16:20,690because and I was even the state when I

154801:16:18,949 --> 01:16:22,340first started out I took some pictures I

154901:16:20,689 --> 01:16:24,739thought oh look it I've got this smoke

155001:16:22,340 --> 01:16:26,239cloud that they're talking about but

155101:16:24,739 --> 01:16:28,460then I realized I took the pictures in

155201:16:26,239 --> 01:16:29,86930-degree weather and I was breathing so

155301:16:28,460 --> 01:16:32,989when I was actually taking pictures of


155401:16:29,869 --> 01:16:34,819us my own breath and professional

155501:16:32,989 --> 01:16:37,929photographers like our guest doesn't do

155601:16:34,819 --> 01:16:40,369things like this but a lot of newcomers

155701:16:37,930 --> 01:16:43,159they'll see stuff like shadow figures

155801:16:40,369 --> 01:16:45,140and well just an example that just

155901:16:43,159 --> 01:16:47,090recently went to a school I'm not going

156001:16:45,140 --> 01:16:48,590to name the name of it but and they were

156101:16:47,090 --> 01:16:50,300saying they had this shadow figure that

156201:16:48,590 --> 01:16:52,789would go in front of this door back and

156301:16:50,300 --> 01:16:54,289forth and I reproduced the shadow figure

156401:16:52,789 --> 01:16:57,079in two seconds because there was a metal

156501:16:54,289 --> 01:16:58,489plate inside the door and down the

156601:16:57,079 --> 01:16:59,779hallway there was a door that opened up

156701:16:58,489 --> 01:17:01,359and the light would shine through it so

1568


01:16:59,779 --> 01:17:03,859when you walked in from that metal plate

156901:17:01,359 --> 01:17:07,429behind you guess what you have a shadow

157001:17:03,859 --> 01:17:09,529figure hmm so it's important if you're

157101:17:07,430 --> 01:17:12,050going to take pictures and you're going

157201:17:09,529 --> 01:17:14,630to present evidence out there don't be a

157301:17:12,050 --> 01:17:15,409reality show do the real thing do your

157401:17:14,630 --> 01:17:17,090research

157501:17:15,409 --> 01:17:19,159protect yourself because you don't know

157601:17:17,090 --> 01:17:21,470what you're dealing with and above all

157701:17:19,159 --> 01:17:23,300you know like I said before don't try to

157801:17:21,470 --> 01:17:27,800swim in a river if you don't know how to

157901:17:23,300 --> 01:17:30,289swim learn the facts before you go well

158001:17:27,800 --> 01:17:33,770I think I think a lot of people who see

158101:17:30,289 --> 01:17:36,019these Riyaz reality shows and start

158201:17:33,770 --> 01:17:38,390


their own you know say like your ghost

158301:17:36,020 --> 01:17:40,700hunting club or whatever you would want

158401:17:38,390 --> 01:17:43,369to call it end up becoming disillusioned

158501:17:40,699 --> 01:17:48,289because they don't get the results that

158601:17:43,369 --> 01:17:50,210they're seeing on television and the

158701:17:48,289 --> 01:17:51,800spirit boxes everybody hears about how

158801:17:50,210 --> 01:17:53,899those and you know what I'm talking

158901:17:51,800 --> 01:17:56,329about below yeah box that goes through

159001:17:53,899 --> 01:17:58,279the radio frequencies what a lot of

159101:17:56,329 --> 01:18:00,140people do not know when they use a

159201:17:58,279 --> 01:18:02,000spirit box and they do not show it on

159301:18:00,140 --> 01:18:04,760the shows is that spirit box picks up

159401:18:02,000 --> 01:18:06,199all kinds of radio stations you can hear

159501:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,510the radio stations as it goes through

159601:18:06,199 --> 01:18:09,920it's all like they want a certain


159701:18:08,510 --> 01:18:11,300reality show they used a lot of times

159801:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,649you never hear anything but static and

159901:18:11,300 --> 01:18:17,060and I'll send you'll hear and noise come

160001:18:12,649 --> 01:18:19,189out that's edited you will hear

160101:18:17,060 --> 01:18:21,039things that you think are ghosts and

160201:18:19,189 --> 01:18:23,779they're not they're actually radio

160301:18:21,039 --> 01:18:26,300programs that are I have one person that

160401:18:23,779 --> 01:18:27,859thought they heard a ghost through the

160501:18:26,300 --> 01:18:30,829spirit box and I'd listen to it real

160601:18:27,859 --> 01:18:35,179closely it said something like wk CT mmm

160701:18:30,829 --> 01:18:38,329no that's a radio station and there is a

160801:18:35,180 --> 01:18:39,800technique that that we use right now and

160901:18:38,329 --> 01:18:43,550actually Denise look doesn't want it

161001:18:39,800 --> 01:18:45,320that created this technique but a lot of


161101:18:43,550 --> 01:18:47,960people if you're first starting out in

161201:18:45,319 --> 01:18:49,880ghost hunting if you have one person

161301:18:47,960 --> 01:18:52,819that holds the spirit box and actually

161401:18:49,880 --> 01:18:55,640puts a headset in it and listens and the

161501:18:52,819 --> 01:18:57,199other person speaks it whatever the

161601:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,570person hears they can blurt out the

161701:18:57,199 --> 01:19:00,739answer and that will correlate what

161801:18:59,569 --> 01:19:03,019you're saying so if you say is there

161901:19:00,739 --> 01:19:05,750anybody here and then the person says my

162001:19:03,020 --> 01:19:07,130name is Jack and they heard that on the

162101:19:05,750 --> 01:19:10,340spirit box they have no idea what

162201:19:07,130 --> 01:19:11,750question you asked so then you can

162301:19:10,340 --> 01:19:13,340verify whether you're actually

162401:19:11,750 --> 01:19:19,010communicating or you're here in a radio

1625


01:19:13,340 --> 01:19:22,340station we had we had a guest not too

162601:19:19,010 --> 01:19:24,650long ago they've got a a YouTube channel

162701:19:22,340 --> 01:19:26,989called what was a tip like the

162801:19:24,649 --> 01:19:32,029naughty-naughty a ghost box or something

162901:19:26,989 --> 01:19:35,210like that yeah yeah but they they put up

163001:19:32,029 --> 01:19:38,449these the results that they get where

163101:19:35,210 --> 01:19:41,359the the spirits or whatever you know it

163201:19:38,449 --> 01:19:44,210is it's talking to them uses language

163301:19:41,359 --> 01:19:45,769that's not not really appropriate and

163401:19:44,210 --> 01:19:49,430and definitely language that you

163501:19:45,770 --> 01:19:51,920wouldn't find being broadcast over most

163601:19:49,430 --> 01:19:53,539radio stations and I don't know then you

163701:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,760got to be very careful of - and you have

163801:19:53,539 --> 01:19:57,319a spirit that starts cussing you you're

163901:19:55,760 --> 01:20:00,320


probably not dealing with a very happy

164001:19:57,319 --> 01:20:01,729spirit I don't think they go out they're

164101:20:00,319 --> 01:20:03,710just you know cuss you out for no reason

164201:20:01,729 --> 01:20:09,369there's a reason they do it usually well

164301:20:03,710 --> 01:20:09,369I think I could throw it right back at

164401:20:10,689 --> 01:20:17,779me I come up with some words you never

164501:20:14,149 --> 01:20:19,250got in your you have but then you know

164601:20:17,779 --> 01:20:20,630that's going to get edited out by the

164701:20:19,250 --> 01:20:23,659editor so it doesn't do you any good

164801:20:20,630 --> 01:20:27,890just mine oh oh yeah we're with it were

164901:20:23,659 --> 01:20:30,368the editors we cut nothing yeah we're

165001:20:27,890 --> 01:20:35,110not we're not regulated by the f

165101:20:30,368 --> 01:20:37,868see see I mean now no matter we can and

165201:20:35,109 --> 01:20:40,779we broadcast from Las Vegas what could

165301:20:37,868 --> 01:20:44,399you possibly say why everybody's here


165401:20:40,779 --> 01:20:44,399because when you lose so much money in

165501:20:45,779 --> 01:20:50,859hey you know I I was in the town there's

165601:20:49,630 --> 01:20:53,739a town that's supposed to be the most

165701:20:50,859 --> 01:20:56,769haunted town in America I'm sure some

165801:20:53,738 --> 01:20:58,509people some places make that plain where

165901:20:56,770 --> 01:21:02,670there are more spirits than there are

166001:20:58,510 --> 01:21:05,800humans it is the town of Jerome Arizona

166101:21:02,670 --> 01:21:11,340which is halfway between Tucson and

166201:21:05,800 --> 01:21:14,340Sedona and it's known for the ghosts of

166301:21:11,340 --> 01:21:14,340gunslingers

166401:21:14,760 --> 01:21:20,590firefighters because there were five

166501:21:17,460 --> 01:21:22,480different the fire zone were talking

166601:21:20,590 --> 01:21:23,920about a hundred years ago a hundred

166701:21:22,479 --> 01:21:28,899years or so


166801:21:23,920 --> 01:21:31,079and people who died in the asylum there

166901:21:28,899 --> 01:21:33,638or went crazy there because there was a

167001:21:31,079 --> 01:21:36,969an asylum that I think is now a hotel

167101:21:33,639 --> 01:21:41,079and furthermore the the ghosts and

167201:21:36,969 --> 01:21:43,599spirits of prostitutes because there

167301:21:41,079 --> 01:21:48,309were a heck of a lot of prostitutes in

167401:21:43,599 --> 01:21:52,119the town of Jerome to service the the

167501:21:48,310 --> 01:21:56,469gentlemen it was known as one of the

167601:21:52,118 --> 01:22:00,189richest mining towns in America until

167701:21:56,469 --> 01:22:03,969the town slid down the side of the hill

167801:22:00,189 --> 01:22:07,118and that worked out a lot of people -

167901:22:03,969 --> 01:22:10,380not as many as the fire but they slid

168001:22:07,118 --> 01:22:14,710right on down but you can visit the town

168101:22:10,380 --> 01:22:17,650today and they will take you on what the

1682


01:22:14,710 --> 01:22:21,429purports to be authentic and goes tours

168301:22:17,649 --> 01:22:25,839of drunk and so there are more spirits

168401:22:21,429 --> 01:22:28,690there then there are the Living Well you

168501:22:25,840 --> 01:22:30,969know Kentucky is full of ghosts Ares

168601:22:28,689 --> 01:22:32,559like that too and the reason that it's

168701:22:30,969 --> 01:22:35,618like that is because let's take the

168801:22:32,560 --> 01:22:37,000Mammoth Cave region for example and you

168901:22:35,618 --> 01:22:39,309go to these cold countries where the

169001:22:37,000 --> 01:22:41,050coal mines have taken over there used to

169101:22:39,310 --> 01:22:42,639be communities at these places we're

169201:22:41,050 --> 01:22:43,960getting ready to investigating one here

169301:22:42,639 --> 01:22:46,449called Paradise

169401:22:43,960 --> 01:22:48,100city which is on I want to say rough

169501:22:46,448 --> 01:22:51,369River no it's on Green River in

169601:22:48,100 --> 01:22:52,810


Muhlenberg County Kentucky and there was

169701:22:51,369 --> 01:22:54,519actually a town there with a haunted

169801:22:52,810 --> 01:22:56,289hotel but when Peabody called took it

169901:22:54,520 --> 01:22:58,330over they wiped the town out completely

170001:22:56,289 --> 01:23:00,670they left the old Civil War prisoner

170101:22:58,329 --> 01:23:03,880which used to be a steel mill and it

170201:23:00,670 --> 01:23:05,890still has the the chimneys and stuff to

170301:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,600it we're going to investigate that but

170401:23:05,890 --> 01:23:08,860we've got a lot of haunted locations

170501:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,120like that where there's a lot of

170601:23:08,859 --> 01:23:12,069restless spirits do they let the

170701:23:10,119 --> 01:23:14,559cemeteries they tore down the churches

170801:23:12,069 --> 01:23:16,569they tore down the towns but they had to

170901:23:14,560 --> 01:23:18,429leave the cemeteries and you could be

171001:23:16,569 --> 01:23:20,859walking through especially in Eastern


171101:23:18,429 --> 01:23:22,239Kentucky and in the coal countries you

171201:23:20,859 --> 01:23:23,679can walk through the woods and actually

171301:23:22,238 --> 01:23:25,750come up on cemeteries that are just

171401:23:23,679 --> 01:23:27,760being overgrown with trees and stuff and

171501:23:25,750 --> 01:23:28,719there are good places to ghost hunt I

171601:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,280don't think I'd want to live there for

171701:23:28,719 --> 01:23:38,439eternity but they're good places to

171801:23:30,279 --> 01:23:41,920ghost time mm-hmm so uh Darryl when you

171901:23:38,439 --> 01:23:44,678are getting ready to to go out to a

172001:23:41,920 --> 01:23:47,770location I mean how do you how do you

172101:23:44,679 --> 01:23:50,500prepare I mean you know uh what do you

172201:23:47,770 --> 01:23:55,840do to make sure that you're ready for

172301:23:50,500 --> 01:23:59,439any likelihood when you're going to a an

172401:23:55,840 --> 01:24:02,650investigation well I'll make sure that


172501:23:59,439 --> 01:24:06,428my equipment is up and running good the

172601:24:02,649 --> 01:24:13,689batteries are fully charged but when I

172701:24:06,429 --> 01:24:20,109go out I try to debunk my own self I try

172801:24:13,689 --> 01:24:24,089to get a make sure that the lens on

172901:24:20,109 --> 01:24:27,670everything is white probably about every

173001:24:24,090 --> 01:24:31,960five minutes or so or less I wipe them

173101:24:27,670 --> 01:24:35,770down I keep my camera when I take

173201:24:31,960 --> 01:24:39,789pictures at arm's length you know even

173301:24:35,770 --> 01:24:44,560you like the Kentucky yeah ghosts are

173401:24:39,789 --> 01:24:51,939said a lot of people will film their own

173501:24:44,560 --> 01:24:54,130breath if they if the ghost owners would

173601:24:51,939 --> 01:24:57,579keep their hand you know keep the camera

173701:24:54,130 --> 01:25:01,239at arm's length then

173801:24:57,579 --> 01:25:05,470there's no way especially when you I've

1739


01:25:01,239 --> 01:25:10,109learned to breathe shallow because I

174001:25:05,470 --> 01:25:13,600don't I do everything in my knowledge to

174101:25:10,109 --> 01:25:17,500make sure that what I'm doing is

174201:25:13,600 --> 01:25:22,140absolutely correct so you know when I

174301:25:17,500 --> 01:25:25,149take a picture that picture is

174401:25:22,140 --> 01:25:29,250absolutely 100% when I'm taking a

174501:25:25,149 --> 01:25:37,329picture of without the possibility of

174601:25:29,250 --> 01:25:41,079breath a smudge on the the lens I double

174701:25:37,329 --> 01:25:45,729check myself every moment that I'm out

174801:25:41,079 --> 01:25:49,779on a location because I do my thing is

174901:25:45,729 --> 01:25:53,409is I want to prove to people that what

175001:25:49,779 --> 01:25:57,639they're seeing is real and I go to great

175101:25:53,409 --> 01:26:01,210lengths to make sure that what I'm doing

175201:25:57,640 --> 01:26:03,640is absolutely correct without question

175301:26:01,210 --> 01:26:06,880


without anybody coming back well this

175401:26:03,640 --> 01:26:10,329and that and that and that no this is

175501:26:06,880 --> 01:26:14,130true and this is real because I've been

175601:26:10,329 --> 01:26:20,430doing this for so long that that I do

175701:26:14,130 --> 01:26:23,050everything according to as you say as

175801:26:20,430 --> 01:26:27,880perfect a picture as you could possibly

175901:26:23,050 --> 01:26:31,350get all right if we have a question from

176001:26:27,880 --> 01:26:36,069Barbara and Barbara wants to know and

176101:26:31,350 --> 01:26:38,050this goes out to both of you do do your

176201:26:36,069 --> 01:26:40,779guests think spirits are attached to

176301:26:38,050 --> 01:26:42,250buildings or objects and she says I mean

176401:26:40,779 --> 01:26:44,829there have been reports of buildings

176501:26:42,250 --> 01:26:47,050being haunted and then torn down do

176601:26:44,829 --> 01:26:52,300these spirits now leave or will they

176701:26:47,050 --> 01:26:57,159attach to the new building well I


176801:26:52,300 --> 01:27:00,489believe that the spirit is just say

176901:26:57,159 --> 01:27:06,519hypothetically if they had died in the

177001:27:00,489 --> 01:27:10,719house or on the property my knowledge is

177101:27:06,520 --> 01:27:12,280they they hang around for well

177201:27:10,719 --> 01:27:15,539and until they move on to whatever

177301:27:12,279 --> 01:27:22,809plateau that they're moving - because

177401:27:15,539 --> 01:27:24,729I've visited a lot of old places and you

177501:27:22,810 --> 01:27:29,860know they got torn down and though you

177601:27:24,729 --> 01:27:33,809go back again and you still see orbs and

177701:27:29,859 --> 01:27:36,819shadows and different figures you know I

177801:27:33,810 --> 01:27:40,660would say they still hang around no

177901:27:36,819 --> 01:27:46,389matter what all right Dean what about

178001:27:40,659 --> 01:27:48,460you I've experienced some things as far

178101:27:46,390 --> 01:27:49,360as what they call attachments to objects


178201:27:48,460 --> 01:27:53,140and stuff like that

178301:27:49,359 --> 01:27:55,599and what I have a lot of times that I

178401:27:53,140 --> 01:27:59,260found I voices appears from people in

178501:27:55,600 --> 01:28:01,690the past and if you think about what I

178601:27:59,260 --> 01:28:04,750said before about dark entities they

178701:28:01,689 --> 01:28:07,179have a hard time dealing with light a

178801:28:04,750 --> 01:28:08,560lot of times attached objects you're

178901:28:07,180 --> 01:28:10,150dealing with an energy particle you're

179001:28:08,560 --> 01:28:12,699not dealing with an actual person a lot

179101:28:10,149 --> 01:28:14,769of people confuse that which energy you

179201:28:12,698 --> 01:28:17,500can manipulate energy if I had a can of

179301:28:14,770 --> 01:28:18,640coke sitting here if you were a large

179401:28:17,500 --> 01:28:20,590ball of energy you could actually

179501:28:18,640 --> 01:28:23,500condense yourself and go into the can of

1796


01:28:20,590 --> 01:28:26,279coke and the reason I brought that up is

179701:28:23,500 --> 01:28:29,289because a lot of times these entities

179801:28:26,279 --> 01:28:32,079that can't stand the light will actually

179901:28:29,289 --> 01:28:33,850enter into objects where it's darker so

180001:28:32,079 --> 01:28:35,229they can survive without I would say I

180101:28:33,850 --> 01:28:37,329don't want to say Pink's I don't believe

180201:28:35,229 --> 01:28:39,479it's a pain I don't really know what it

180301:28:37,329 --> 01:28:41,769is but they can survive in dark places

180401:28:39,479 --> 01:28:44,109so a lot of times like you see a doll

180501:28:41,770 --> 01:28:45,489it's possessed by something the reason I

180601:28:44,109 --> 01:28:47,139think of the possession is because

180701:28:45,488 --> 01:28:49,119something's went inside of it to keep

180801:28:47,140 --> 01:28:51,130out of the light that's why you see

180901:28:49,119 --> 01:28:53,469mostly dark figures shadow figures at

181001:28:51,130 --> 01:28:55,150


night it's because they're hiding during

181101:28:53,469 --> 01:28:56,890the day and they don't really want to

181201:28:55,149 --> 01:28:59,049come out during the day because it

181301:28:56,890 --> 01:29:01,420affects them somehow that doesn't affect

181401:28:59,050 --> 01:29:05,020regular things so when a haunted house

181501:29:01,420 --> 01:29:06,520is consumed or whatever it is by spirits

181601:29:05,020 --> 01:29:08,770or several spirits I believe when it's

181701:29:06,520 --> 01:29:10,840tore down they'll either enter into an

181801:29:08,770 --> 01:29:12,880object or go into another location in

181901:29:10,840 --> 01:29:15,909this area that we're getting ready to

182001:29:12,880 --> 01:29:18,579investigate called paradise the haunted

182101:29:15,909 --> 01:29:21,219hotel was tore down and soon as the

182201:29:18,579 --> 01:29:23,140haunted hotel was tore down then the

182301:29:21,219 --> 01:29:24,399Confederate prison became the haunted

182401:29:23,140 --> 01:29:27,190location


182501:29:24,399 --> 01:29:29,199that's kind of moving from one speck to

182601:29:27,189 --> 01:29:30,549another in my opinion like I said I

182701:29:29,199 --> 01:29:32,889could be wrong because we really don't

182801:29:30,550 --> 01:29:37,000know anything yet no that's how I for my

182901:29:32,890 --> 01:29:40,119investigations I see hey you know if you

183001:29:37,000 --> 01:29:43,149could do that investigation on a

183101:29:40,119 --> 01:29:45,760Thursday night at the attentive midnight

183201:29:43,149 --> 01:29:48,339the eastern we'd be happy to a broadcast

183301:29:45,760 --> 01:29:55,329at least part of it I think that would

183401:29:48,340 --> 01:29:57,880be a you know we have to we were going

183501:29:55,329 --> 01:30:00,399to go by boat but we found out because

183601:29:57,880 --> 01:30:02,920the talents built right on the river but

183701:30:00,399 --> 01:30:05,049over the time the the legend is corroded

183801:30:02,920 --> 01:30:06,369and it's now a sheer Mountain so we're


183901:30:05,050 --> 01:30:08,050going to have to walk through the woods

184001:30:06,369 --> 01:30:10,539tomorrow and a half with all our

184101:30:08,050 --> 01:30:11,680equipment to get there but once we get

184201:30:10,539 --> 01:30:14,409there and light the fire because there's

184301:30:11,680 --> 01:30:16,000no electricity we'll be glad to call you

184401:30:14,409 --> 01:30:20,289guys up on cell phones they do have cell

184501:30:16,000 --> 01:30:22,899phone service if it's a Thursday night

184601:30:20,289 --> 01:30:25,359they just give us an advance notice and

184701:30:22,899 --> 01:30:27,519we'll we'll do a segment at least I'd be

184801:30:25,359 --> 01:30:29,019glad to because we've also got there's

184901:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,280going to be a couple of we're probably

185001:30:29,020 --> 01:30:33,010gonna do it in October and there's a

185101:30:30,279 --> 01:30:36,699couple of newspapers going with us or

185201:30:33,010 --> 01:30:39,100some other people - yeah good good for

1853


01:30:36,699 --> 01:30:43,210you know you do you have a youtube

185401:30:39,100 --> 01:30:46,660channel no no no you know I've been

185501:30:43,210 --> 01:30:47,980asked and asked and asked but I just

185601:30:46,659 --> 01:30:50,380haven't done it yet we probably are

185701:30:47,979 --> 01:30:52,569going to do it but we do have like

185801:30:50,380 --> 01:30:53,949Kentucky go center coms our website and

185901:30:52,569 --> 01:30:55,750you can find the guy thank you go start

186001:30:53,949 --> 01:30:57,729on Facebook and we got a group all the

186101:30:55,750 --> 01:30:59,590Kentucky ghost town so you know

186201:30:57,729 --> 01:31:01,929sometimes we put videos on we don't but

186301:30:59,590 --> 01:31:04,360we're about ways away from being talked

186401:31:01,930 --> 01:31:08,860into doing a YouTube oh okay well you

186501:31:04,359 --> 01:31:12,519know we make a YouTube this show is not

186601:31:08,859 --> 01:31:14,589only archived on k cor radio.com which

186701:31:12,520 --> 01:31:18,910


of course originates the show every

186801:31:14,590 --> 01:31:23,770Thursday night but we also are archived

186901:31:18,909 --> 01:31:27,309there put up on stitcher itunes google

187001:31:23,770 --> 01:31:30,190play and we have our own YouTube channel

187101:31:27,310 --> 01:31:35,410which is mr. UFO mr. UFO secret files

187201:31:30,189 --> 01:31:38,259and there are associate Peter adds some

187301:31:35,409 --> 01:31:40,569graphics so we'll probably with your

187401:31:38,260 --> 01:31:43,150both of you look up a couple of photos

187501:31:40,569 --> 01:31:45,399from your a website and as you were

187601:31:43,149 --> 01:31:47,768talking people listen to you

187701:31:45,399 --> 01:31:49,899I think they will be able to see some of

187801:31:47,769 --> 01:31:51,369the graphics that involve what we spoken

187901:31:49,899 --> 01:31:53,799of this evening

188001:31:51,368 --> 01:31:56,049so we liked it we like to keep it visual

188101:31:53,800 --> 01:32:04,779where our audio we'd like to keep our


188201:31:56,050 --> 01:32:08,739audio as visual as possible well on the

188301:32:04,779 --> 01:32:10,179website that smoke yeah yeah talk about

188401:32:08,738 --> 01:32:12,098we've got one of those on our website

188501:32:10,179 --> 01:32:15,460too where it's actually shows a couple

188601:32:12,099 --> 01:32:17,110faces in it's very distinct Ritchie

188701:32:15,460 --> 01:32:18,609Ritchie Blackmore must have been

188801:32:17,109 --> 01:32:31,479thinking that when he wrote the song

188901:32:18,609 --> 01:32:33,098smoke on the water you know I hate to

189001:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,928say this I guess he's still alive but

189101:32:33,099 --> 01:32:37,059Ritchie Blackmore is one of the few

189201:32:34,929 --> 01:32:40,449artists that I ever walked out of a live

189301:32:37,059 --> 01:32:42,369concert on but because they were known

189401:32:40,448 --> 01:32:44,408was a deep purple right they were right

189501:32:42,368 --> 01:32:48,098they were known for having the loudest


189601:32:44,408 --> 01:32:51,429audio of any I guess of performing a

189701:32:48,099 --> 01:32:54,760group and I was alert either backstage

189801:32:51,429 --> 01:32:57,099or in the first couple of rows and boy

189901:32:54,760 --> 01:33:01,690that was allowed so if there was smoke

190001:32:57,099 --> 01:33:03,279on the water I never saw it alright imp

190101:33:01,689 --> 01:33:05,379we got about three minutes left in the

190201:33:03,279 --> 01:33:09,788program so we better better go around

190301:33:05,380 --> 01:33:12,460and find out from our guest where our

190401:33:09,788 --> 01:33:14,859audience can learn more about you your

190501:33:12,460 --> 01:33:16,920websites upcoming appearances things

190601:33:14,859 --> 01:33:20,649like that so Darryl let's start with you

190701:33:16,920 --> 01:33:25,868well I have a website paranormal

190801:33:20,649 --> 01:33:30,460evidence consulting.com it has quite a

190901:33:25,868 --> 01:33:32,889few pictures that are excellent I keep

1910


01:33:30,460 --> 01:33:38,698adding more pictures to it you know

191101:33:32,889 --> 01:33:40,569whenever I go out and get good stuff and

191201:33:38,698 --> 01:33:44,259my partner

191301:33:40,569 --> 01:33:49,398Linda wolf Elise she's a wonderful asset

191401:33:44,260 --> 01:33:54,079to to what I'm doing so

191501:33:49,399 --> 01:33:55,939glad to have her loan very good and Dean

191601:33:54,078 --> 01:33:57,799what about you well it's pretty simple

191701:33:55,939 --> 01:34:00,110the website is Kentucky ghost hunter

191801:33:57,800 --> 01:34:01,820calm it's there's no D in front of it's

191901:34:00,109 --> 01:34:04,069just Kentucky ghost hunter calm and if

192001:34:01,819 --> 01:34:05,929you want to go to Facebook then the D

192101:34:04,069 --> 01:34:08,389appears it's the Kentucky ghost hunter

192201:34:05,929 --> 01:34:09,769and the group discussion also is the

192301:34:08,389 --> 01:34:11,599Kentucky get started but I just wanted

192401:34:09,769 --> 01:34:12,860


to give a shout out to my wife Chris I

192501:34:11,599 --> 01:34:14,119love you very much and thank you for

192601:34:12,859 --> 01:34:16,069letting me stay up so late to talk to

192701:34:14,118 --> 01:34:19,578these fine folks usually I'm in bed by

192801:34:16,069 --> 01:34:21,4989:00 out here in the country wow I'm up

192901:34:19,578 --> 01:34:23,569to 6:00 in the morning but hey you know

193001:34:21,498 --> 01:34:27,109we got to give a shout out and thank you

193101:34:23,569 --> 01:34:31,248to our staff you know our producer and

193201:34:27,109 --> 01:34:32,598engineer a Peter our animator and

193301:34:31,248 --> 01:34:37,340YouTube

193401:34:32,599 --> 01:34:39,139chief dead Carol who makes sure that I

193501:34:37,340 --> 01:34:39,860get everything organized as much as

193601:34:39,139 --> 01:34:42,378possible

193701:34:39,859 --> 01:34:46,998Michelle Helen I'm sure that I've

193801:34:42,378 --> 01:34:50,029forgotten somebody and I guess our


193901:34:46,998 --> 01:34:52,128friends in the the other the other

194001:34:50,029 --> 01:34:55,969worlds the paranormal universes them and

194101:34:52,128 --> 01:34:58,998and you anybody like show no oh well I

194201:34:55,969 --> 01:35:01,099just I was just like to remind everybody

194301:34:58,998 --> 01:35:03,198that when they have a chance to go visit

194401:35:01,099 --> 01:35:05,449our website which is conspiracy journal

194501:35:03,198 --> 01:35:07,819calm I don't get a chance to tell people

194601:35:05,448 --> 01:35:09,678that very often there and that sign up

194701:35:07,819 --> 01:35:12,618yeah I sign up for our free newsletter

194801:35:09,679 --> 01:35:14,418because it's been going on now for gosh

194901:35:12,618 --> 01:35:18,069I think almost twenty years at this

195001:35:14,418 --> 01:35:23,559point so yeah you know and also to

195101:35:18,069 --> 01:35:25,788Tesla's lab calm because Tim is written

195201:35:23,559 --> 01:35:27,320probably the best-selling book on Nikola


195301:35:25,788 --> 01:35:29,478Tesla in the last three years and was

195401:35:27,319 --> 01:35:33,529colonel significant Destler and we have

195501:35:29,479 --> 01:35:34,489a new book out the Tesla's purple energy

195601:35:33,529 --> 01:35:36,408lates

195701:35:34,488 --> 01:35:40,098and you can get of course all of our

195801:35:36,408 --> 01:35:42,948books on Amazon our blogs are up there I

195901:35:40,099 --> 01:35:44,989just go to Amazon and type in that

196001:35:42,948 --> 01:35:46,819Timothy a definitely look for my photo

196101:35:44,988 --> 01:35:49,128in my top hat and you all have a

196201:35:46,819 --> 01:35:50,509wonderful week in Milwaukee and next

196301:35:49,128 --> 01:35:53,359weekend we'll have some great guests

196401:35:50,510 --> 01:35:55,628coming up at the future including Calvin

196501:35:53,359 --> 01:35:55,628Parker

196601:35:59,939 --> 01:36:06,179you've been listening to exploring the

1967


01:36:02,279 --> 01:36:07,038bazaar with hosts Timothy Becky and T

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196901:36:07,038 --> 01:36:12,809they're taking back the night by jetting

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197101:36:12,809 --> 01:36:18,719the truly bizarre and totally

197201:36:14,849 --> 01:36:21,199unexplained with you as their cold

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