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. Doorkeeper: ''Attention', Members of the House ok Representative .

Tbe House wlll convehe in fifteen minutes. Attentfony !

Members of the House of Representatives. The House wtll 1

!convene in five minutes. A11 persons not entttled to!

'he House floory please retire to the gallery.''

Speaker Redmond: nHouse w111 come to order. Members, piease!

be fn their seatsk %e 1ed ïn prayer by the Reverend !

Krueger, the House Chaplaih.îl ' l

Reverend KruegRr: HIn the Name of the Father: the Son and the !

Holy Ghost. Amen. 0 Lord, bless Thy House.wxthis House 'i

to Thy service tbis day. Amen. Lincoln Steffens

observed; 'Nothfng ls done. Everything in t%e world' !

remains to be done or done over'. Let us pray. Almithty!

Father, tord God of heaven and earth, we humbly beseech !

Ihee to guide and direct our minds to never-ending r

process of legislation that is our task as Members of !

tbis Bouse of Representatfves.. Give us fnsfgût into the!changïng and challenging engimas of our perplexiag!

society that we may so address ourselves to their!

s o lu t ion fn v. cempatibflrity :7 i t h Thy d lvf ne k':t 11 . Th i s we I

pray in the Name of 1hy Son, Jesus Christ. Ameaz' I!

Speaker Redmond: tfRoll Call for attendance. Messages from I

. the senate.'' ' I, ,, ' !

' Clerk O Brfen: A message from the Senare by Mr. Wrïghtx

Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform theI

House of Representatives ehat the Senate has passed a :l(

Bill of the following title, in the passage of vbich I I

am instructed to ask the concurrence of the House of j:

Representatives, to wit: Senate Bill //58, passed by the I

' Senate, March 15; 1979. Kenneth Wright. Secretaryo'' Ir1

Speaker Redmond; l'Former ïllustrious House Member, Senator !I

John Herlo, has lust arrived to grace the cbambers.I

Reading of the Journal.'')

Clerk O'Brien: ''Journal for the 18th tegfslatfve Day. The '

House met pursuanf to adjournment. Representative Flinu

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i tlze Chaf r . Prayer by Father Wf lliam Krueger . n

Chaplaïn.''Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Ciorgtp''I

j 'Georgï; ''Mr. speaker, I move that we dispense wfth the

reading of tbe Journal and that Journal #18 of March

14, 1979 be approved as read.''1i ' speaker Redwond: ''Is there any discussion? The question'sI on the centleuan's xotion that t:e readlng of the Jouraal

be dispensed wït: and that the Journal be approved.

Those ïn favor say 'ayel aye, opposed 'no'. The 'ayesgi >1 bave its the uotion carried, the Journal fs approved.

Introductton. Fïrst Readfag.''clerk O'Brien: ''Rouse Bf11 982, Neff. A Bfll for an Act to

amend Sections of an Act in relation to county zoning.

First Reading of t:e Bill. House Bi11 983, Von Boeckoan.

A Bill for an Act to amend Sectïons of the Illïaois

Vehicle Code. First Readfng of the Bill. Xouse Bill

984, Schllckman. A 3f11 for an Act to amend Sections of

the Illlnols Marriage and Dissolution of Marriage Act.

First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 985. Schtickman.

A Bïl1 for qn Act to amend Sections of an Act fn regard

to judgements in the manner of enforcing the same by

execution. First Readïng of the Bf11.H

Speaker Redmond: MRepresentatfve Ryan: are there any

Republfcan: 'wbose absence should be excused? Represeata-

tïve Ryan. Ryan.'f

Ryan: HYes, Mr. Speaker, Representative Capuzf fs still 11l

and Representative Jake Wolf...death fn his famityy his

mother passed away yesterday mornfng. Anybody that would

like any details on tbat can..wcan call my office and

ve'll be glad to give them to you.l''

speaker Redmond: ''Representative Peters goïng to be vith us

todayr'

Ryan; ''Yes I believe he 1s.''

Speaker Redmond) ''Any oblection to those absences being

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excused? Hearing no objection: ehe record shall so show.

House 3ills, Second zeadfng. House Bï11# Second Reading.

House Bill 21. 0ut of the record. 96y Representatfve

Deuster. Representative Deuster...House Bill 96.*

clerk Ea11: HHouse Bill 96. A Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of the School Code. Second Reading of t%e

Bi11.H

Speaker Redmond: ''Xepresentative Deustere'?

l k Hal1: HAmendments f/3 and 6 'have been adopted previouslye'C erI

Speaker Redmond: Nlny other lmendneats on the floorrî

Clerk Halll ''Aoendment l5y Iotten, amends Bouse Bf11 96 as

amended in Section 29-3 and so forth-'ê

Speaker Reduond: GRepresentative Tottea.î'

Totten: HHas ehat Amendment been distributed, Mr. Speaker?''

Speaker Eedmond: ''He sa4d that 3 and 4 bave been adopted.

5 ïs your Amendment.''

Totten: ''Has ït been dfstributed? -1 don't see it. I vas

lookfng for ft on my desk before.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Would you repeat that, I didn't under-.oê'

Totten: 'fHas 1t...Mr. Speaker, has Amendment 5 been distribute Z

T...I donft...T was lookin: for tt before and I Jon't

:avebit.''

Speaker Redmondl HEvïdenely lt has not. Are there any oeher

Ameadments? Are there Amendments other than 5? 1he

Pages...will you please dlstrfbute Amendment #5? WeAll

take this out of the record now and wefll get back to

that after it's distributed. 257. Take the Ro11...

it did not...Ro11 Call for attendance.w.the paper

didn't work very well. Take the record. Now we911 go

to the order of House Bills, Second Reading. House

Bill 257.1'

Clerk Ha11: MHouse Bill 257. A Bill for an Act to regulate

. . .in relation to immuntty from efvfl danages in

connection witb snow and ice removal. Secend Reading

of the Bi11. Amendment #1 was tabled fn Committee.

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.Amendment //2 was adopted in Comoitteeo''

s eaker Redmoad : ''Rep'resentative schlickman. ''p

I Schlickman: ''Mr. Speaker. wfeh respect to House Bill 257. isi t:e cbiek Sponsor of the Bïl1 on the floor? There are

some Amendments which will be controversial I think.u

speaker Redmond: ''Is Representative Klosak ou t:e floor? I

1 #fguess not, we better take it out of the record. 266.

Clerk Ha11: ''Eouse Bi11 266. A Bill for an Act to aaend

Sections of the Cfvfl Administrative Code. Second

' Readfng of the Bill. Xo Committee Amendments.''i Speaker Redmond: ''Ié there any Amendments from ehe floor? '

Cterk Ha1l: OKo floor Anendments.''

' t, fvSpeaker Redmond: Third Reading. 2...316.I .I Clerk Ha11: ''Rouse Bi11 316. A Bfll for an Act fn relàtïon

to local lmprovements made by special assessments or

$special tax benefiting state property. Second ReadfngiI of tbe Bi11. No Committee Amendments.''

I speaker Redmond; ''Any Amendments from the floor? Representa-

tive scblickman.''

j Sehlickman: HHas a ffscal note been ffledo..one ïs...''

i Speaker Redmond: ''Has it been furnlshed? Mr. Clerk: has a

fiscal note been furnished?ll

Cterk Hal1: #'No, lt has not.''

Speaker Redmond: ''0.K.y we'll bave to keep tbis oa Second

Reading then. Representative Collïns. Dfd you hear

tbe concert, Representatfve Collïnsx''

Collins: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker, I want to thank you er whoever

is responsible for that fine renditïcn ofellagic' dedtcated

to me, I understand. My only questiony Mr. Speaker. is

was that Senator Geo-Karis singing that song?''

Speaker Redmond: ''Anybody that wants to bear 'Ttfs Magfeg

vhy ve91l have a.-.back in the office-..that's Representa

tive Mccourt and Totten and Collins and LelnenweberyVlt's

Magicl (Song) 316, out of the record. House Bftl

358.'1

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Clerk Ba11: Oaouse Bfll 358. A Bill for pn Act to amend :

Sectfons of an Act relating ro alcobol liquors. Second

Reading of the Bi11. Amendments //1 and 2 were tabled ;

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1*Speaker Redwond: Representative Triedrich. .riIF'rledric: : ,'I have àmendment 11 3, Mr . Speaker . '' '/

Lr' jspeaker Redmondl ''O.K. Any Amendments from the floor?'' fclerk HaJ1: r'Amendment 113, Frfedricb: amends House 3i11 358 R ;'

: Y;as follbws on page 1: line 11 and so forthwf' '1

Frfedrich: ''Mr. Speàker, thewa.there is a present lav on the è. ;

't have a liquor llcense wïthia .iboeks whfch says you can ' yja hundred foot of a c:urch. %*e Attorney.General has j

Iru1e4 and 1 think the couris have alsc ruled that thatmeans cburch property. Thls âmendweat..wtbe 3i11 as it 'f

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got out of Committee had a...had a provisios that the i' (i

church could wafve fts rfghts but I have Jecided to' j

put.ovoffer thfs Anendment whlch would say churchi

tuary and designate the place of wozship as opposed fsanc i

to cburch property and I tbink tbat wfll correct the 1)

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Deuster: ''If the sponscr of tbe Amendment and the spoasor of /

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the Bflls Representatïve Friedrtch, will respon 2question: I just beard from a ûhurch fn my dïstrfct that /J

)is meeting in a shoppfng center. They are leasing space Il

/in the Bawthorn Mall Shoppiug Center and it bappens that /

;Naltgxeens is withia a hundred feet or something and j

/they want to make sure that your legislation solves '

fthelr preblem. 3y sanctuaryy do you mean...well: a place .f

of V/rship that migbt be lûased like an auditorium or /l

av.wyou know just a room because thereds...the churches (k

that meet in places that are sacred and boly? 1 vaat to 1.

make sure the phraseology of yeur AmendRent would include f/

my probtemw'')

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Friedrich: feour Chaplain tells' Ke tha't in.the Catholfc church

it means the alter and in the 'rotestant church weconaider tbe roonf wb ere t:e worship service is conducted

as beipg t:e sanetuary-f'

Deuster: ''So it could be a room wbere a worship service ïsconduczed whether tbere's a crosb or some other emblem

or sign of a religioua faith, is that your understandïng

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of what your Amendment meansk''

Frfedrich: DWe11...1ee me go back, the present law says you ,

canlt have a license within a hundred foot of a church. ,

lhey have ruled that means church property. I happen

to be...we happen to be fnvolved in distrlct .1th a

chureb t%at :is about a couple of acxes and *as a

bowling alley over in one corner. ttts 250 foot ia to

the church.l'

Deuster: HDo you mean place of worshipr'

Frïedrfcb: NRlght.l' ' '

geuster: ''Mould place of worshfp be a better way to express

what your seeking than sanctuary?''

Frfedrich: 1fWe11, I've worked on it a long t1me...I considered

. . .in fact, the Committee nassed it out sayir.g that

the c:urch could waive its rights to this bundred foot

but 1 thoùght this would be the better way. Actually,

Mr. Bîè and a bunch of otber places around here are

involved in this. There's 25 in Clfnton County for

example.'' ' ' . '

Deuster: f'But...I know that itls a gèbd Bill and Iêm

supporttng your Bill but I want to nake sure the

language that ycu are adoptfng fn tkis Amendment ïs

the best possible language and...if you have beenp..had

t%e word 'sanctuary' reeommended to you by staff and

the wogd Isanctuary' fncludes place of worshlp. such

as any meeting room where people would gather for

religtous and church purposes.-.lo..l think the..-that

does le but I wanted to get tbat clarlfication and I

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thank you.''I

Frfedrich: ''I move the adoption of the Amendueneo'' :I

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Mahar.'' 1

Mahar: ''Thank yous Mr. Speaker. kill the sponsor yfe14 for

a questïon.''

Frfedrfchl ''Yes, I <f11.''

M'ahar; ''Representative Friedrïcb, if tbia Amendmeat fs

adopted, <fl1 you summarize Just exactly what the Bill

vïll doQ''

Prfedrfch: f'Welly the present law says you cannot hava a

liquor lïcense within a bundred foot of a churchs

school and other thfngs. :ut the courts have ruled that

church property is the church. lhls merely designates

the churcb sanctuary as theo..for the measure of

distance as opposed to the church property. A church

could be on a 50...40 acre fteld and you couldn't go'

jwithin a hundred foot of the 70 acre field and this J

says t:e church sanctuary as...as I1m proposing toI

amend i.t . '' 1Mahar: 'Qn other wordsy alcohollc beverages could not he

served in tbis.vvin the churcb sanctuaryr'

Friedrich: Hkelly they can now with a special liceasea''

Mahar: 1'3ut it could be anyplace else on tbe grouadsp is that

it....if...1f the congregation agrees to ft??#

Friedrich: Well, no that s what tbe Bill reads as it came

out ef Committee and I#m taking that out and makfng tbe

measure of distance. tbe 'sanctuary: as opposed to

cburch property.''

Mabar: HMr. speaker, I canft...l cangt hear t:e commeatso''

Speaker Redmond: ''Flease come to order. the Gentleman can't

hear the exchange here.''

Mahar: ''Ifm sorry, I didn't get part of thatz' 1JI

Frïedrfch: ''The'only thing this would do if this Amendment is III

adopted is cbange t:e wethod of measuring from vhat has jbeea determined to be the church property to the church

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sanctuary. Ihe 1aw will remaln the same as ft fs aoww''

M har: ''A11 right tbank you.'' la ,- 1

speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Schlfckmau.''I

Schlfckman: ''Would the Sponsor yieldr' d'

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Schlfckman: HAs the Bill was introduced and as ft was EeardI

in Committee, you provided for an exception to the II

prohfbition of the sale of alcoholic beverages wfthïn Il

l00 feet if the affected churcb were to vaive thfs

prohibltion. is tbat correctk''

Friedrich: ''Thap's correct, but...H..

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Scùlickman: ''You are...by this Amendment ellmlnating that

proposed exceptfon and instead simply clarifying what

constitutes a church, fs that correct.''

IFriedrich: ''Ko, Ifm clarifying where you start measuring from.'.

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jSchlickman: 1'Well, but youfre clarifying what is oeant by a j

.. . 1churc: for the purpose of thfs law?I

'lWell yesy as a matter of fact...u iFriedrich: ,I

Sehlickoan: l'Aad I <ould...I support the Amendment. Thank lI

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Speaker Redmond: Nls tbere anythïng further? Any other ii

questions? Representative Priedrich to closeo'f Ii

Friedrich: ''I move the adoption of the Amendment.'' 1I

S k r Redmond: ''The Gentleman's moved the adoption of the lPea e. I

àmendnent. Those in favor indicate by saying 'aye'. aye. II

opposed 'no'. The layes' have it, the motion carrfed, 1the àmendment is adopted. Any further Amendments?''

Clerk O'Brfen: ''Floor Amendment IIh, Johnson-Mcpikes amen'ds

Pouse Bill 358 as follows on page ly Iine 12 by iasertisgIafter schook, so roth.'' I

S R d d: HRe resenrative Johnsoa. Mcpfke. What's 'peaker e mon p

your Pleasure, Representative Friedrich?'' ii

Friedrich: %9I move that you...let this Amenduent 1ie on the iI

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Speaker Redmond: ''What was that?''

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Frïedrich: ''I move we do not adopt thïs Amendmento'' .'

11 ' ,vSpeaker Redmond: Well, there s nobody bere to preseat...

Priedrich: '$I move...in that case, I move it to be advanced.

Here we go.'' .

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Johnson. Representative

Johnson.''

Jobnson: ''Yeah, Mr. Speakery Amendment liyp.excuse me...

whfch fs offered by Representative Mcpike aad myselt

would remove the prohibition in the revised statutes

that exist now with respect to the location of liquor

distributive and sales, businesses within a certafn

numbera.el thïnk 15 hundred feet of the University of

Illfnois or any other higher educational institutional

buildinga.oexcuse me. I think this particular provision

was added not a11 that long ago and really in terms

of practlcalfty and applfcatfon to towns where hfgher

educational institutions èxisf really serves no purpose

at all. The reasons that exist for the statute with

the respect to location within a certain number of feet

of churches and so fortb just don't apply to higher

etducatïon. And I l/ould move for adoption of êxmendment

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Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Schlickuanw''

Schlfckmaa: HMr. Speaker, I do not have a copy of this

Amendment and one other Member has told me that s:e

doesn't have a copy either. And 1 would suggest that

this Amendment fs too ïmportant to vote on it wïthout 1t.'

Speaker Redmond: HDo you have Amendment f/1:''

Schlfckman: î1I have Amendment //1.''

Speaker Redmond: DAnd what does that say?''

Schlfckman: ''It says Johnson hyphen Afcplke, Amendment f/1.1?

Speaker Redmond: f'I think there's an error ïn markingo.-in...

1 and 2 were tabled tn Committees, so evidently, this

one should be...$f

Schlfckman: f%We11, ftfs marked number one.'' l

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Speaker Redmond: 1'Well, wefll ask leave...do you have ll.. i

Representative Contf? ?:ges...)l been dfstrfbuted?'' I'j

Schlickoan: ''Yes.'' II

speaker Redmondt XRepublican Pages, Representative Conti j1doesn't have the Amendment. Nedre going to ask.oohowtsI

's desk? Is that marked oae 1it marked here on the clerkI

or.w.Republican Pages, please dlstribute the Amendments. I' I

Representative Johnsony are you asking leave to change I1the number from...from 1 to 5 on its facezî' 1

IJohnson: ''I would ask that...'' i'' Sh o u ld i t b e 4 '; Mr . C le rk ? iSpeaker Eedmond :

1Johnsoa: ''It should be Amendpent //4. As long as it's fn t:e I

Iproper forl given the adoption of Aaendment 3 lust nov.'' j

ISpeaker Redmond: NO.K., then you ask leave to amend it on itsI

face so that ve show lt as Amendment 1401' Ii

Johasoa: ''Rtght-'' ' Ii

speaker Redmond: HNow has the Amendment been dîstributed on j

ithe Republican side? Representative Schlickman.''

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Schlickman: 1'I would questfon whether this àmendment is in II

order in light of the adoptfon of Amendment 73?,' 11

Johnson: Well that s what I asked, Geney if it isn t fn the ii

proper Amendment wefll just Aave to have 4 printed and jjdfstrfbuted. That's why I introduced it as 4 rather II

ban 1 or 2 . is It

Speaker Redmbnd; Hls tbe Parliamentarian wfthin the sound of my1

voice? How did we mark the last Amendment w:ich ve jadopted? Was that Amendment 3? Well. Amendment 1 and

12 were offered but not adopted in Commfttee. The first

floor Amendment was 3 and is that the way it shows #3?

And tbat was Represeatatlve Friedrftb's Aoendment. He i

., iadvfses of...that fn his opfnion they are compatible.I

Schlickman: 'dAre compatible? 1i

Speaker Xedmond: ''Yeah.'' ii

Schlfckman: 'f#l I'd point out that.o-Amendment //4 does not 1. Ire fe r to H ouse Bi 11 35 8 as amen de d.''

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Speaker Redmond: ''In this case it does not have to because

they're not' cbapgtpg 'the same language accordtpg to the

Parllamentarian. Representative Johnson.''

Scblickman: ''Youfre affectipg t:e same ltne.'' :

Johnsoa: ''Mr. speaker, thfs fs...thfs fs an Amendment that I

thfnk should be adopted and I want to make sure ft's in

tbe proper forl and nobbdk has any technical oblectfons.

So. if we want to get it redrafted as 4 and distributed,

I tbink Mr. Friedricb would be glad to take the Bill out

of the record until we do that because I Mgree with Mr.

Schlickman we ought to do it iu the right formo'' I

Speaker Redoond: ''Let's hold it on.xoAmendment //3 has beea iJi

adopted. We'll take ft out of the record..oo.K.

Representative Johnson has suggested..pthe Clerk suggests

that you withdraw 4 and then when you resubmit it in

the proper korm it vill be #5. You so move: Representa-' tive Johnsonk..so move. 383.' 383.'1

Clerk o'Brien: NHouse 3f11 383. A Bfll for an Act authorfzfng' ff l

the bepartment of Mental.... ;speaker Redmond: 'lRepresentative Winchester, do you desire ,

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that out of the record? 0ut of the record. 674.::

Clerk o'Brien: HHouse Bill 674. A Bill for an Aet to amend

Secttons of the Park District'code. second Reading of

the Bi11. No Committee Amendments.''

4, iSpeaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floor? j

Clerk O'Brien: NNone.'l

Speaker Redmond: 'lThird Readipg. House Bills: Third Readtng.

House Bills, Third Readipg. appears House Bill 1iy

Xepresentatïve Dan:els. Danlels on t:e floor? l4y out fof the record. 33, Representative Dèusterw''

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Clerk O'Brien: House B111 33, Represeneaefve Deuster. A Bfll i

for an Act to amend Sections of tbe School Code. Third!

Reading of the BiI1.e':

speaker Redmond: R'Representative Deuster. House B111 33. !;

Out of the record. 69. Is Representative Terzich on

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the floorr'ënknown: ''What Bill are we on? Are we on Thtrd Readicg?e?

Speaker Redmond: ''Wedre on lhird Readipg. Take that out of

the record. 95, Representative Deuster. 95.::

Clerk o'Brien) ''House Bf11 95. A Bitl for an Act to amend

Sections of the Scbool Code. Third Reading of t%e Bi1l.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Deuster. 0ut of t:e record.

108. out. of'the record. 142, Representative bavis back

there? Be vas up in front here a few minutes ago. 142.

Representatfve Davfs. 0ut of the recerd. 148 Repre-

sentative Deustet. Get back to your seat. 0ut of the

record. 150, Representattve Schlickman. Read the Bill,

Mr. Clerk.''

Clerk OfBrien) êcfouse Bi11 150. A Bill for an Act te amend

Sections of the school Code. Third Readipg of the B11l.O

Speaker Redmond) ''Representative Scblfckman.l'

Scblickmao: '1Mr. Speakery Members of t%e Eouses Rouse B;ll

l50 requires persons seekipg teaching certfffcates after

September 1. 1981, to have taken a special eduction

recognition course. The provisions of Federal Public

Law 94142 favor the placement of exceptfonal ehîldren in

the regular classroom rather than special surroundings.

Mainstreaming of students vfth specfal needs denands

that the'y be graded by teachers: admfnfstrators and other

fn the school environment vho can dipgnosis t*eir pxoblem

Exceptional children are those vfth speciffc learnfng

dlsabflities often appear to be lazy or Just slow. For

chese problems to be ignored during a child's formattve

years can mean a lifetime of discrfminatfon. For these

problems to be discovered and corrected can mean the

vftat differeace ia oae's ability to fuaetion as a

productive adult. Each of us knows or maybe even has

chfldren wfth special education needs. For every child

vhose problem is d/tected there ate many wbo just

struggle through. And ve all know it's possible for a

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student to ket through Yis or :er entire eductton byIjust getting by. Much more aeeds to be done to equipi

exceptional learning dlsabled children for a llfetfme

in this complex world. But flrst they have to be I

detected. House Bi11 150 would help make teachers better i

qualified to spot the' child wit: special needs and to i

point him or :er in the right direction. This Bf11 wasI

reported out of the Elementary and Secondary Education

Comntttee b# a vote of 19 to nothing. 'In'its'amendedi

. form it has tke support of the Gffice of Zducationy it's' j

- also supported by t:e Parents Teachers Associatioa. by I

the Association...or council..yllllnois Council for i

Chfldrea wfth Learnfpg Dlsabllftfes and a varfety of '. I

other organfzations. I solicit your favorable consfdera-

V i O R. * ''' jspeaker Redmond: ''Representative Hallstrom.''

IHallstroml MMr. Speaker and Members' of the House.p.''

ISpeaker Redoond: ''Representative Hoffman, Camybelly Ceorge

Ray Hudson. please sit dowaw'' i

Hallstrom: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladfes and Gentlemen of the House I

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Speaker Redmond: 'êpages, please sit down.n II

Ballstrom: ''I rise in support of House Bfll 150. I certafnly '

understand and go along with every reason that Representa ;

tive Schlickman gave you. Above and beyond thaty as one

who has worked in the field of exceptional children for

over twenty yearss I .'know how important tbis Bilt is

1and I urge you to vote 'yes'. Thank you.''Speaker Redmond: S'Representative Stuffle.v'

Stuffle: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members, if I heard the

Sponsor correctlyy he said the Bi11 required a course.I

I believe the Amendment changed that to say 'course work'1

so that this would not be a mandate on the unïversfties1

system to add teacher's or programs but rather to work.. 1

withln the fraaework of t:e courseoo.courses already

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available to indfcate that each new teacher after 1981 lI

would have to have this course work rather than the

course. We opposed t%e Bill initlally because ft said

a 'course'y whicb would be a mandate which would be

costly, partlcularly where we have to add teachers. With

the Amendment we sbould support this Bf11 I believe. It'

too bad really that we donlt have contlnuiag education

and institutes and'the like to teach the teachers wEo

are already on board something about the same sublect

matter. But the Bi11 deserves our support with the

amended version for us now.n

Speaier Redmond: HRepresentatfve Hoffmanw''

Hoffman: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladles and Gentlemen of

the House. As the previous Speaket noted,ktbe Bill had

several defects as it was orfginally fntroduced. I tbink

witb tbe Amendment that has been adopted, as the varfous

interest groups worked on it, wit: the good sense of the

Sponsor to accept this Amendmeat, I think this wi11 be

helpful and will not be difficult for either the people

in the profession or the people in the ffeld'to live

wl.th and to work with. particularly when we have a

fmplementation date at some point down the line. I would

Just like to add parenthetically that I think perhaps in

nany of the things we do tbis Sessiony we might thïnk fn

terms of ïmplementlng things at some point down t:e Iine

rather than droppipg ft on people tommorrow. Thaak you,

Mr. Speaker.l'

Speaker Redmond; ''Representative Skinaer. Representative Skinner.'

Skinner: 01 pass, Mr. Speaker.''

Speaker Redmond: 'lRepresentatfve Macdonaldo''

yy 'àlacdonald: Thank youy Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of

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jthe House. I want to stand in strong support of t:ls i

IBill. In the last several weeks I have had an enormousI

volume of mail from teacherss from parents and from I. I

school admfnïstrators urgfng me to ask my colleagues to

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support Representatïve Schlickuan and t:e Co-sponsors

of thfs Bi11. I think it is reasonable. I thfnk the

time phase-in period is right and I urge a11 of my

colleagues to loln fa supporting this Bi1l.''

speaker Redmond: ''Eeptesentative Fterce.''

lfPierce: Will the Gentleman yield to a questlon? Genes do

you requfre that hïgh school eeachers..psay a high

school history or language teacher would :ave to learn

to identify..olearnipg disabled or bandicapped cblldren?

$ Shouldn't that have been done long before they reach

' hlgh school?''

Speaker Eedmond: ''Repxesentative Schlickman.''.

Schlfckman: HThis applfes for certïficates at the elementary

and secondary level.''

' Pierce: ''so in other words, to be a high scbool Latinteacher you have to have this training?''

schzlcknan: ''You would have te be sublected to some coursework in special education at the college level when

you're preparing for securipg a certfffcate.ê/

Pferce: ''I see and thfs vould pretty vell eliminate high '

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' ' school language-teachers 'and history teachers who dida't- -attend a teachers college of some kind, 1 take iteêê

Schlickman: ?'No.N .Piercel ''Because they probably couldn't get this education

at Amhurst or Williams or someplace like that or KnoxCotlege. They would pretty vell have ta go to a State

Tr eaehers College or normal school f o'r that y wouldn ' t

. yy o y y y,t schlickman: ''ue..ethe answer to that ïs in the nezative. I

thfak the Representatlve.e.chalrman of the Committee is

more qualified to respond and I wou1d...''

Pferce: ''0.K., I#d lfke to speak on that for a momene. I9s

a11 for thfa concept as you knov of ldentifying and

learning how to deal with handicapped children. I'm just

always looking for the teachers groups and the educators

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from tbe..ofrom some of our State Teachers Colleges to

put.o.to put things in Bills so that only people that g'' jwent to Illinois State Pniversity or Northern Illinois

IVniversfty could ever teach history or foreiga languages '

fn this state, anyone who went to Standford or to Yale

or to Prïnceton or to takeforest College would be jdisqualiffed because those schools don't have courses l

1ion. You migbt be the best history iin special educat

I. teacher in the world, the best Latin teacher in the

world, the best French teacher in the world but not kave ifhad access to those kind of coursesqand sometlmes they i

. ;try to make educatfon a trade. There are...Education

Assocfation is now a labor union. The National Education i

Assocïatf/n has becoae a labor union: tbey try to make i

it a trade and eliminate a11 tbose who don't go to the i

l A d that's vhat I'm afraid we lproper trade schoo s. n

may be doing at times witb some of this legislationy i

but certaïnly I'm not gofng to oppose ehfs partlcular )I

Bill but Ilve got my eye open for the professional i

teachers of educators who think that only theyp..only ;

they are qualified to teach teachers and teach educators. i

And I can assure you some of ehe greatest teachers fn .

the world werengt taught by professional teachers of ,

educatlon but were taught by historians, by economists

and by...by people in foreign languages.'' i

' speaker Redmond: HRepreseneative Kaez.n .

Katz; ''Representative, tbe Gentleman from Lake has made sone iI1vety exeetlent points. Re does not seem to believe in i

. bis points and be indicates that he is not going to voteIIin accordance with the very excellent points he has made.i1 do ptopose to vote in accordanze with tbe points that

ihave been made. In the first place, some of his remarks

relatfng to T eacher's D nions ia my opinion were totally I

't know any reason iunnecessary and not relevant. I don

to believe that this Bill fs the result of the Teacher's '

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Daion. It is Mr. Schlickman's proposal. 3ut I would '!

' like to talk about this generat trend. Wbat sense does I

it make to require a bigh sehool teacher in history or

mathematics or the sciences to have to learn about the

subjeet of learning disabilitles. lt is a total vaste )of time. Tbe fact of the oatter is that's vhat's

happening ïn our schools a11 over. Ne are teachîng

teachers more and more of these useless kinds of courses

and t:ey are not learning anything about xhat theyAre

supposed to teach. They are not learnfng hfstoryy they 1(are not learning English literatures theyfre not learnfng

oathematics, they're not learning English composftion. lA1l of the deffciencies of our children are mfrrored in E

t%e kinds of courses thit we mandate that schools of. )

education give. It'é bad enough that they do ft. E

A 1ot of them to it...a 1ot of the schools of education :

do ft for the reason that the Gentleman from Lake '1mentioned. Because that way they become essential to

the trainfng of teachers. That way somebody who had fthe misfortune to have gone to Harvard or Yale or the

c Universfry of Mlch.igan or :he Pnïversity of Californïa jcannot teacb in our schools. They can have a PhD from

Harvard, itls true in historyy but they cannot teach

ïn our schools because they did not comply wfth tbat

wonderful provïsion of House Bill 150. That provision

requïred that that person as a result of the enactment

of this Ceneral Assembly, the 1979 General Assembly. we

requlred that in additiou to everything else the person

bas to bave a teachipg certiffcate that included 1fnformatfon abvout the psycholpgy of the exceptfocal Jchild. Now the teacher isn't teachiag anything about '

thaty tbe teacher's teaching mathematics. the teacher's . 2.

teachfng English composition, but they ean't hire the j. iPh

.D. from Harvard because that Ph.D. from Harvard j

dfdn't have the course that we mandated in House Bf11 150

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Now, maybe Hr. Schlickman has a pofnty maybe you ought I

Ito requfre that teachers of kindergarten or the fïrst

grade or the second grade opgbt to have some kaovledge

of this subject, but to bar everyone from teacbing in 5

the high schools of Illinois because they have not taken

this kind of course, to say that the best qualified

historian you can turn out of any school in the Uafted

States cannot teach here because they did not have a ;

course relating to the fdentificatioa of the exceptional

chïld is absolutely and totally absurd. And we are

gettïng the very kind of dtudents, the very kind of

s tudents that we abhor , we ' re getting thelh and w'e 're getting , E

them because of the things we do. 0a the one band, we

say that We want to test competencyy'we say ve are

dissatisfied witb tbe public schoolsp we say we want '

the public schools to teach history and Epglish lfteratur E

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Iand aat: and psychology and we mandate competency tests

ibecause they are turning out imbeciles in maay cases. I

kids totally uneducated. 0n the other hand. we mandate

courses that take tbe tfme of the teachers the classroom iI

time that should be deveooping substantive knowledge fn ,

the very fields our children are deficient in. We take

that kime âway by mandating as in House 3i11 150 that

they learn about exceptïonal children. Wells it might

make somè sense to do it for the flrst grade or the E

second, but this Bill in my iview is a step totally in i

the wrong direction and I propose to vote 'noV.î?I

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Schneider.''E

schnefder: ''Thank you. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House.

It lust goes to show you that...what one little languageIchange fn the schoot code can do

. You know it takes a

lawyer to elaborate as long as Harold did on that pro- jposal, it vould probably be as long as I would tatk ff

ve were talkfng about legal ethics or something of that !Isort. uhat I suggest is that the Harvard Ph.D. coulda't

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nothing to do with the neu language that's been added. 11

like thàt or not is a question that you fWhether you' ;

i Re resentative Katz fn repealfng 'mlght want to ra se, p s ' j

f the scltool code that requlre some kind 'those portions o

of training that deals with cbild growth and development.

:ow tbose might not be those cbeerful topics that vill

move you to great universal decisions about mankiady but

they w;11 make you ïn many ways a better teacher. What t e

school code would be 'amended in'this case, however. more

pertinently is that it would rust ask that the universitt s

fly...include rather.x'kin their course od instruction

without addipg a new course, I mfght add, is the general

need for recognizipg tbat one out of every five childreny

about 20 per cent, need to be identified as possibly

learning disabled. it doesn't limit itself in this

lanàupge to that but that was 'tbe thrust of the original

Bi11. As ït's been amended ft now fncorperates specfal

education. Most teachers are aware of that but the

visually handicapped and tbe auditorily affected child

is a child who is norially average or above. He's also(

the child that if you donft detect early in bis learning

disabled time, a chlld who ls seen as very bright. who

records on IQ tests above averyge, who's a slow learner

or he's lazy. By the time he gets to hlgh schoolpif he's '

not identiffed earlyy he's a child who sometimes begins

to demonstrate some antï-social behavfor. But What the i.

Schlickman-skinner Bi11 tries to do. and I'm sympathetic

to it, as long as it's not an elaborate mandate as it

came inywas to at least alert teachers to t:e prospects

of soaet%ing other than one's intelligence, that is one's !

physfologfcal development. A chfld wfth some training, I

can quickly adlust to those kinds of problems. can become

a very able and capable student. He or she matches the

tevel of the gifted in many cases. It would be a shame

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to put ktds...teacher's in a classroom,rather who couldn't. :

identify a chlldywho is readipg words backwards: who :

cannot discern what a teacher is sayipg whether lt'sE

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about the rise and fall of the Third Reich or the Roman :!Empire or the Illinois Ceneral Assembly. It's a silly ipcomment that the centleman from Glencoe talks of. he's

h talk to a lworkipg in a very narrow area, I suggest e j!

'aye. vote ... ifew people in the field. I would suggest an Ilspeaker Redmond: nRepresentative Pullen. Representative E

f' I. Pullen. l

Pullen: ''We11, Mr. Speaker, tadies and Gentlemen of the 1i

f ', 1House, I m... . . .

speaker Redmond: ''The tady standipg between the Chair and !I

Representative Pullen, please sit down.''

Fùllen: NI'm really a little bit surprised to hear the kfnd

of debate that we heard from certain Members of this '!

House this afternoon. In presenting the Billy the

. Sponsor indicated that it was partially because of

concern with 94142 requirfng the mainstreaming of

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Ibandicapped children. They don t die before they get

!to high school. They're going to be mainstreamed at

high schoql as well as fn tbe elementary scbool. I

donft understand this hang-up about secondary school

education. If weîre going to have handicapped children

in the regular classrooms, those teachers had better

know something about the psychology of the exceptfonal

child. And furthermore, I think it would be very nfce

kf we could live fn the Pollyanna state of being assured

that a11 of these problems are caught and corrected ïn '

the second or third grade. But tragically: it happens

to be true that some children go a11 the way through

elementary school and al1 the way throug: Junior Nigh è

school and they are still learning disabled or in some

other form of handlcap without anyone ever having

diagnosed ft. I think that teachers certainly want

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this Bill so that they feel more adequate to deal vfth

these children. And the ones that we s%ould really be Ii!

concerned about are tbe children. They need thfs

education, they need to be dfagnosed certafnly at an2 y. .

e ar ly age . Bqt if :': tkey 9 re not d i a gno s e d a t an e ar ly a ge ,i

tben not just leave them alone because they somehow got

to high school. If we...if we didn't need this kfnd of'

!Bi11 tben we wouldn't need minimal competency tests i

either but kids are getting out of hlgh school even

without belng able to learn anytbing. Certafnly witb !' (

normal children this is bad enoughs we certainly want

' to be able to teach those that are handicapped to the

best of their abllity. And wherever they get diagnosed,

it is important that they be given the education that

they need and deserve. And I urge an 'aye' vote forI

tbis Bi11.1' '

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Kdsinski.''

'fMr. Speaker, 1 tbink t:is has been adequately ?:Kosinski:

discussed. I move the previous question.''

Speaker Redmond: HThe Gentleman has moved the previous

question. And the quesVion is, shall the mafn questfor '

be put? Those in favor say 'aye', aye, opposed 'no'.

The 'ayes' have it, the motion carried. Represeatative !

schlickman to clqse.''

Schlickman: HMr. Speaker and Members of tbe Housea I s:ould2r

first like to express my appreciation for those vho had !

. . .who stood either in support of tbe Bi11...who stoodIby way of clarifylng the Bi1l and thea expressing their r

support. As has been mentioned on this ftoor, the

federal 1au favors, if not requiresy the mafnstreaminn'' ''' ''*' j

of children wfth special education needs. As a eonsequen e.

we here in Illinois,as well as in the other statess are 1

facing up to and have to faee up to years of neglect.

House Bill 150 provides a flexible approac: by whfch I. i

teachers fn the future, after 1981. will have taken some

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course work n'ot a prescribed courseybut some course' .

work which will asslst them in diagnosing. analyzing '

t:e special education needs of children. It's a statemea

of sound public polfcy, it's one that is supportedy that ' I indicated earlieryby the Office of Education, the

I Bill was reported out of Committee by a vote of 19 te!Ii blng. It's supported by a myriâd of organizatioasnot

wfthin the state. I know of no o/positlon to the Bill

other than the reservations that were expressed here on'

v. .the floor and I earnestly solïcit your support.

speaker Redmond), ''The question is sball thfs 3i11 pass?

Those in favor vote 'aye' opposed vote 'no'. nave a11

* voted who wish? Representatfve John Dunny are you

seeking recognition? Representative Mugalian, to

explain his vote.''

Mulgalian: 'Tartially to explain my vote and perhaps be of '

some help to the State of Illinois. I heard the Chairman

of the Elementary and Secondary Educatfon Ccawfttee say

that a Ph.D. from Harvard or M.I.T. under our present

school code couldnlt get a teaching certificate for the

State of Illinois. I would urge the Coumittee on

Elementary and Secondary Education to look into t:is

general question. Apparently a Nobel laureate fn sctence

could not teach fn the schools fn Illfnofs. I thïnk ft's

a kind of result that we should not tolerate and I urge

the...that Committee and my colleagues to go in to that

issue . ''

Speaker Rednond; ''Have a11 voted who wish? The Clerk will

take the record. 0n this question there are l31 'aye'

and 17 'no'. The Bill having received the Constitutional

Malority is hereby declared passed. Representative

Skinner, for vhat purpose do you risez''

Skinner: 'fMr. Speaker. I rise to ask permission to table House

Bill 235 which is a Bfl1 who had...wbich had the sawe

intention as this Bi11. Both Bills were inspired by

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Marion Doddy who is one of my constituents. Mav I have. ''' !

!permission to table that Bi11?''

Speaker Redmond: HDoes the Gentleman have leave to table

235...1s that correct? Hearing no objectiony leave is

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skïnner : ''Tltank you . ''

Speaker Redmond : ''Representative Borcbers .''

3orcbers: ''I request permission to tabte :ilt #914.9'

speaker Redmond: î'Any objectïon to Representative Borchers

tabling 914'.'..914: Bearïng no oblectfon, leave is

granted. Representative Collinszê

Collins: î'Mr. Speakery the mpkic continues. I was lust

presented vith an envelope by the Clerk, it was to be

delfvered to Repvesentative îeïnenweber and I and on ie

1ïs written DePaul 62. Marquette 56. I think I know what

the contents are and I'm going over to t:e Seaate nov 1to ask Senator Ceo-Karis to cut a recording for you

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Hlf you'd lïke another rendltion of that 1speaker Redmond:fsong, flt's Majicp we/ll be very happy...''

collins: ''Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, if you would, Representa-

tive Lèlhenweber was not bere to enloy the musïc.H

Speaker Redmond: ''House Bills, Second Reading. Mouse Bi11

1ey desires to be 196, Representatfve Bradley. Brad'

... jreco'rded as êayef on the last Roll Call. Representatlve

Deuster. are you through witb the phone? 96.''

Clerk o'Brien: ''House Bi11 96. A Bill for an Act to amend$.J!y Sections of the School Code. Second Readiag of the1.

Bfll. Amendments l13 and 4 were adopted prevfously.

Floor and the Bfll was held on Second Reading. Amendment

#5, Totten, amends House Bill 96 as amended fn Section

29-3 and so forth.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representatfve Totten.'';

Totten) HThank you, Mr. Speaker. Ameadnent Il5 to House Bil1

96 makes one correc tfon . I t changes the one énd a hàlf

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figure to two miles. I checked with.my local school

district and this would save them.wwhich is one of the

biggest elementary school'districts in the state, over

one hundred thousand dollars a year. I'm spre the

savings statewfde to local scbool districts vould be

significanty the one and a half figure is arbftrary and

of course. so is the two. 3ut in the. time of tight

budgets, at both the state and local levels. it would

seem that..mrelaxfng the restrictfon from oae and a-half

miles to two would be wïse and in lfne vfth the President s

Physical Fitness Programs..increasing the dfstance to

two miles would also seem wise, so I would ask for your

favorable consideration for Amendment //1.1:

Speaker Redmond: ''Anything further? Representative Deuster.''

Deuster: ''We11, Mr. Speaker and tadies and Gentlemen of the

House, I hoped you a11 listened to that. Representative

Totten suggested Ehat this was a correction. It's not

a correctfon, ft's rather a massive and major change tn

somethfng that w111 effect tbe school children in

eacb and every distrfct around the srate. I don't

çuarrel with wbat Representatfve Totten fs suggestfng

neeessarily. Years ago children used to walk miles and

miles and miles and miles across cora flelds sometimes

five and ten miles. And Representative Totten is asklng

each of you to require that the chlldren instead of

walking a mile and a-half that they walk two milesy that

that might be good for them. I9m sure that it might be

good, howeverp that's not the subject of this Bill.oothe

changing the liwit...or the distance that the children

wfll walk. The Educatfon Commfttee didn't eonsider that

subject at all. My Bi11, I wouldn't vant fettered down

with such a major change, I think you can al1 make up

your own mfnd. I thïnk the mfle and a-half dfstance ïs

something that is reasonable, tbat vedve had for quite

a many years and I would like to leave the mlle and a-hal

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standard in the School Code as lt is. And I...so 1

would respectfully ask that you oppose Amenduent #5.

Thank you.''

Speaker Redmondt HRepresentative Satterthwaitee''

h ite) ''Wï11 the sponsor of the Amenduent yield forI Sattert va

a question?''I

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Satterthvalte: ''Representative, t:e queseion I bave ls fn

regard to schöol children wbo now go home durfng the

lunch hour to have lunch a't home and return e/ school

for the akzernoon program. I den't know w:at length ol

noon hour your schools have in your dfstricta uaa you

tell me what that ïs?1'

Totten: ''The length of t:e school hour would be one hour.''

' Satterthwaite: 'îThe noon bour.''

'otten: HTbe noon hour would be one bour by definitition.g'

Satterthwafte: ''We11y I don't tbink that would necessarily

be true because many of the school districts do not give

a full hour for.e.for noon time break, if that's what

. we need to call it to clarify the language. My concern

' js that when my chfldren went to school ehey walked lust

about a mlle and a-half because we vere at the lfmlt of

the dfstance for not getting bus service. They walked

. tbat mile and a-half to scbool before school in the

movning, they walked hoae at noon, they %ad lunch at

home: they valked back to school, had afternoon classes

and walked the mile and a-half Mgain at t%e end of the

scbool day. That added up to about six uiles of travel

for them and for a ffrst grader that is a fair amount of

exercfse in walking. I'm not sure that my children, who

were pretty athletïc, could have made an extra half nfle

each vay vfthla ehe tlme that was alloteed for the noon

break. Ites my suggestion t%at if we are going to change

this limit, t%en we are also then expecting Dore cbfldren

to seay at school during the luneh hour. Would that be

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Totten: HThat vould be up to the parents then over the two

miles. They could certafnly bag their luncha''

Satterthwaite; ''We11, I think that we need to really consfder

this Amendment fn the light of the fact that ff thfs

were adopted many of the cbildren whe now do return :ome

for lunch would find it necessary to.stay at the school

during the lunch hour.u'Even if'they took thelr own

lunch, as the Sponsor of thfs àmendment suggestsy it

would increase the amount of supervislon that were

needed within the school durfng that lunch period. I

think it's a bad Ameudment. I can understand the

Representative is tryiqg to reduce the costs for

transportation whlch are being under-funded now. I think

the state should take on an addftional obligation to

help the schools wifb theit transportation fundingy but

I donlt see this as a solutlon to the problem and I

urge a negative vote on the Amendment.''

Speaker Redmond: êêRepresentative Steczo.îf

Steczo: ffThank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I

rise ln opposftion to Amendment f/5 to House Bill 96.

And of course the School Code right now presently

provides for reimbursement for traasportation over a

mile and a-half but I?m sure tbe Sponsor should be avare

of the feeling ïn my district and some other dfstrfcts

in the state where parents and school boards alike feel

tbat that mile and a-half is unreasonable and needs

relaxatfon rather than bavlng thaL mlle and a-half

extended to tvo miles. What they feel and what we a11

feel is that by extending the limit to two uiles what

welre actually do is placing the lives of even more

cbildren ïn jeopardy. This Bill concerns hazardous

circumstances and not every one of those :as circumstance

that are going to be certifïable. The more children that

are going to be walking to school are the more chances of

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something happenfpg. In addftfon to that toos the

feelin: is in periods of bad weather and what have you !

that the longer a child must walk and the farther a

chïld must valk to school, the more parents will be

utged and wfll feel that in order to protect their

children they would rather keep their chtldren home.

And the schoolidistricts at that point would be losing

valuable state aid money based on the vafted average

dafly attendance. I don't think this Amendment fs fafr

and I wopld urge everybody to vote 'no' on Ameadmen: #5

to House Bf11 96.11

Speaker Redmond: ê'Representatfve Bruamer.''

3rummer: ''Yes, I rise in opposftlon to this. I think it's

faïr to point out tbat tbe exisitfng mile and a-half is

arbftrary, two miles is arbitrary, as the Spoasor ok

the Amendmeut indicated. He could save the maxfmum

amount of dollars for his scbool district if be abolfshed

the entire busing provfsïon which he has not suggested

doing. I tktnk it's important to point outy however.

that we currently dlscrimfnate agalnst those who live

vfthin a mile and a-half...inasmucî as those chfldren

have to walk to sc:ool up to one and a-half miles.

Howevery those that lfve outsïde of the mile and a-half

ate not required to walk a wlle and a-half to get '

together at some 'centtal pick-up spot for the bus service

They may only be walking a couple blocks because they

' ltve a mile and a-half plus tvo blocks outslde of the

perïmeter of the dfstrict. Thereforey I thfnk ft fs

a bad precedent to expand that. We a1l opght to contract

it and provfde more bus servïces so that the children

that live withln the mfle and a-half are not discrimïnate

againstythe original intent of the Bfll design is iutende

to do that wit: regard to those chfldren that live in

hazardous areas and 1 would urge a 'no' vote w1th regard

to thfs Amendment.'' !

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Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Robbfns.''I

Robbins: fflnto the Bfll, a mile and a-half under hazardous l

conditfons ls plenty far...enough for a child to walk.

If youlre going to have them try to walk tvo milesy I

suggest we ffx up a hitching post so that you can rfde

a horse like 1 used to to go te school when I lived over

two mfles. Nov, we have a lot more cars todayy kf you

don't believe it lust look at the number of liceases

that was issued compared wit: tventy years ago when thls

mile and'a-half Bi11 was put on. We have four-lane..owe

have a 1ot of rafl...we have railr:ads wit: the train...

runs rfght on through the town, of course you can kfnd

of teacb a kid to stay away from thems but some of these

vebicles that we have en the road at the present ttme,

they drïve to wbere therefre not safe. The two pile...

there's notkipg wrona with walking two milesx I do that '

to go back to the back pasture to check the covs. There' III

. nothfng wron: wfth a kid that walks tvo miles. But you fIIshould think of what it can cost in terms of hospftal. II

bflls. The things that tbe distrfct should do...I urge II

. ' this Aaesdaept. .. .1you to think about thïs and vote no onThe...the fntent of this Bill is to safeguard ehe I

I' Icbildren who walk through hazardous areas less than a I

Imile and a-half from school and it might not.o.it mfght l

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nOt even be a mile. Thank youv'' II

DRepreseqtatfve Vlrginia Frederick. Repre- lspeaker Redmond: II

sentative Frederick. down here ln the front-'' I' j

iFrederick; ''Mr. Speaker, Ladles and Centlemen oi the Housey jI

1 move the previous question.'' II

. Ispeaker Redmond: ''The Ladye..the Lady has moved the previous I1

tfon. Those fn favor say gaye' ayey opposed 'nJ#. Jques y I

1The 'ayes' bave it, the motion carried. Representative I

Ivf ITotten. I

ITotten: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was impressed by Repre- I

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. (Let me comment on the itony of some of the remarks that

vere made in the dïscusaïon on thfs Amendment. I?m sure

many of you who are parents have teminded your children

that when you were younger you walked five. six and tea

Kiles to school. And now we bus a11 thpse over a mtle

and a-half through a state mandate. Let me remfnd you

of tbe irony of a11 of you who campaigned agafast exisitï g

state mandates and theit costs ïn the regulation. 'his

is an arbftrary Mtate mandate...a nile and a-half. Let

me remind a11 pf you of the irony of the campaiga rhetori

over savfng tax 'dollars. This would save hundreds of

thousands of tax dpllars at b0th the loeal level. wiere the

property tax is belng vfsfbly aetackedmaad at ehe state

levellwhere tight fiscal controls are impairfng our

ahility to fund necessary services. Presentlyy the

State of Illinois pays over 58 million dollars for the

transportation busïng of students. Let me remind many

of you of the irony of the creations of the RTA for

providlng publlc transportation and the various state

mass transit distticts that ve have created arouad thfs

state that are avâflable to bus students wfthfn that

mile and a-half or two miles at no cost to the taxpayers

at least for a substitute for the transportation subsidy.

And 1et me reiind you lastly, that this Bill is the

relaxation of the safety requtrement as propcsed by...''

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Totten...Representative

Totten: will you turn Representative Totten's mtcrophone

on? Representative Kempfners, put his mlcrophoae ea.

Representatïve Toeten. How about Peters? Representatfve

Peters' micropbone work? Representative Ryan, I did ft

on purpose. Come up here and use this one. Can't you

get that thing to vork? It looks like we'?re bavfpg

problems. Representative Tottea. I've been working

four years on tbis project. ' finally figured out ho* to

take care of Represeatative Totten. The House vill be at

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aase for about ten minutes, evidently theo.oDemocratic

side is off now, if you can imagine anything vorse than

that. At ease for about ten mfnlates. Do you want ro

use t:e one up here, Representatlve lotten? o.K., we.lzI .

I wait for ten oinutes. When we get through vitb this

oneg.eyou can't say that aepresentative Deuster doesn'k

îave signlffcant legislatïon. When we get through vfth

' this one khy wefll...have announcements and then go toi

a Committee meeting. Representative Giorgl: will you

come up to the Clerkls office? Aêreed Xesolutions.

Agreed Resolutions. Come up here. Agreed Resolutions, !

move the adoption.''

clerk O':rïen: HHouse Resolutfon 119, Kent; 114, Davls Jones;

115, oblinger; 116, Donovan; 117. Kelly; 118. J. navtd

Jones; 119, Kente''

''à i conti has indicated that 'Speaker Redponl: epresentat ve

these are the Agreed Reseàutions. Represeneaefve Gforgf

is recognlzed.f?

Giorgi: #'114 by Jones recognizes the Grand 01e opry; 115 by

oblfnger recognizes the Havks of Rlverton; Donovaa's

1l6 talks about Jack H. Brown; 117 by Kelly talks about

a hotltae; 118 by Jones, Barold Whïtten; l19 by Kent

talks abour the Red cross. And I move for t*e adoptloa

of the Agkeed Resolutïons.o

Speaker Redmond: ffAny dfscuasion? 1he question is on the

Gentlemaa's motion for the adoption of t%e Agreed

Resolutfons. Al1 in favor fndïcaee by sayfng 'aye'y ayes

opposed 'no'. The 'ayes' have it, the motiou carrled.

Agreed Resolutions are adopted. Introduction. First

Readfnge''

Clerk o'Brien: 'fHouse Bill 986, Rea-slape. A Bfll for aa

Act creating t:e State Purchased Euman Setvfces Review

Board. Virst Readtng of the Bi11. House Bi11 987.

gavis-cetty. A Bil1 for an Act relating to assistant

state's attorneys. first Reading of the %111.

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House Bill 988, Stuffle. A Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of the Illinois Pension Code. First Reading ,p

of the Bi11. uoube 3i11 989, Davis. A Bill for an Act

to amend Sections of the Rrgional Transporation Authorfty

Act. Ftrst Readipg of t%e Bi11. Eouse Bill 990. Lee y

Daniels. A Bi11 for an Act to amend Sections of the

Real EstaterBrokers and Salesmen ticense Act. Ffrst

Readipg of the Bi11. House Bi11 991, Deuster. A Bï11

for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Munfcipal

Code. First Readipg of tbe Bf11. House Bill 992. j

Deuster. A Bf11 for an Act to amend Sectlons of an Act. Eto revïse the 1aw in relation to counties. First Reading j

of the Bi11. House Bill 993, Jo:n 3eatty. A Bill for

an Act to amend Sections of the Probate Act. Ffrsti

Reading of the Bï11. House Bill 994, John 3eatty. A

B111 for an Act to amend Sedtions of the Probate Act.' j

First Readipg of the 3i11. House Bill 995. Taylor- '

. Cataniamw.House Bi11 995, Taylor-catania-Braun. A Bi11

for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Fension I1

Code. First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 996.IMautfno. A Bill for an Act to amend Séctions. of an Act .

to require the payment of interest by lessors of

residential real property on security deposits made by I

lessees. First Reading of the Bil1. House Bill 997.

Deuster. A Bf11 for an Act to amend Sections of an Act i

in relatfon to the rate of interest and other charges

in connectfon with sales on credit and the lending of :I

money. First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 998.

Youage. A B111 for an Act to amend Sections of the iI

Illinois Munfcipal Code. First Readipg of the Bi1l. I

IHouse Bi11 999% Taylor-pouacey. & Bill for an Act making

an appropriation to the Department of Local Governmenti

Affalrs. First Reading of the Bf11. House Bill 1000,

Marovitz-Madigan-Gforgi. A Bi11' for an Act to amend '

Sections of the Illinofs Vehfcle Code. First Reading of

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the Bil1. House Bill 1001, Younge. A Bi11 for an AcL

to amend Sections of the Illinofs Eousing Development

Act. First Reading of the 3i11. House Bill 1002,

Cullerton. à Bill for an Act to amend Secttons of the

Vnified Cede of Correcttons. First Readfng of the Bi11.

House Bill 1003, Grèfman. A Bf11 for an Act to amend

Sectfons of an Act to revfse the law fn relatfon to

fnlunction. Fïrst Reading of the Bi1l. House Bill 1004

Breslin. A B1ll for an Act to amend Sections of an Act

for the prevention of blindness. First Reading of t:e

Bi11. gouse 3111 1005, Schneider. A Bï11 for an Act

relatfng to agreements of park distrfcts and aunïcfpalftï s.

First Reaàing of the Bil1. House Bill 1006, Scbraeder.' :j

A Bi11 for an Act to exempt foods medicine and medical

apparatus puèchased for use by a person 65 years of age

or older from taxation under certain state and local

occupation and use tax àcts. First Reading of tke 3ill.1'

Speaker Redmond: 'lGeneral Resolutionsall

Clerk O'Brien: 'Qlouse Joint Resolutfon 25, 26 and 27s Redmond-

Madlgan.''

Speaker Redmond: NAnnouncements. Representative Matijevicby

Chafrpan of the Appropriatïons. Any other Chairman

want to come up here and make the announcement.

Announcements.f'

Matflevich; ''The Approprfatïons I Comaïttee fa meetïag

directly after Sessfon in Room 114. And I pfght tell

tbe Membership that tentlvely scheduled at 4 o'clocky

Dtrector Bi11 Boys in Room 114: has said anybody who's

interested fn learning the terms of the AESCME contracta

he w111 be in Room t14 vith his staf f . lhank you .''

Speaker Redmond : 'lllepresentative Leon s Chairman of the

Financial Institution . 1:

Izeon : S'There will be a meeting of the 'Financial Institution

Commi t tee immed iat e ly af te r adj ournmen t f n Room D-1 . I t

should be a short mee tfng , maybe 10 minutes or eight . . .

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if everyone gets there early. lhank youw''1

Speaker Redaond: NTo assume that a1l the other Committees jI'

that are posted fn the Calendar w111 meet unlèss there's

some announcement to the contrary. Representative

Peters. The problem ls that it hasn't been working,

tbatls w%y wegre running this way. That's the problem

o . pthatds...do you want to come up here...make an

announcement? 0n the...Appropriation? Representatfve

Peters desires to have me advise tbe Republican Members

of Approprlatfon 11 will oeet in his office immedfatelyI

after adbournmeat. Anyg..senate Bills, First Readings'ê

Cierk O'Brien: HSenate Bill 92. A Bill for an Act makfng j

supplemental appropriations to the Depàrtment of Children IIand Famlly Servfces. First Readlng of the Bil1.H I

''Any furtber announcments? Representative lSpeaker Redmond:i

lotten...welly I don't know, are we ready to go vfth I' I

it brpm.whatfs the story on tîe public address system? II

It appears that in anshabundance of .caution, ve probably jI

should take thls B111 out of the record and come b<ck 1Ito ft tommorrow so we can.mwwe don't know îow long tbis j

Iis going to take. Message from the Seaateo'?. I

'Brien: ''A Message from the Senate by Mr. Wrlghty ' lClerk 0I

' IY Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the 1I

' IHouse of Representattve that the Senate has passed a '

jB111 of the following title, passage of which I am

instructed to ask the concurrence of the House of

Representatïve to wit: Senate Bi11 113: passed by the

Senate March 20, 1979. Kenaeth Wright, Secretary.n

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Giorgia are there any

Democrats whose absence should be excused? There are

none. Representative...Representative Matfjevich do9

jyou move tbat the House now stand adjourned until 10I

ofclock tommorrow morning? We don't have the- enothing II

fs working out there. The question is on tbe Gentleman's

motïon. Those ln favor say 'aye'oo.we'll take this 96

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out of the record, welll come back tp it tommorrov. We

don't know how long it will take us to fix these1

microphones. Please don't have such dyaamic Bills after

tatlve neuster. The questien's on thethfs. Represen tcentleman's motion. Those in favor say 'aye', aye, jopposed 'no'. The 'ayes' bave it, the House staads 1adlourned until 10 o'clock tommorrow morning.''

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Page Time Speaker Information l

l 1:00 Speaker Redmond Housa to order II

Reverend Krueger Prayér 1

Speaker Redmond Roll Call for Attendance

Clerk o'Brien Message froa the Senate

Speaker Redmond

Clerk Of3rien Reading of the Journal/

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Speaker Redmond jl 1Ryan Excused absence l

speaker Redmond '13

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Paqe Time Speaker InfonM tion

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12 Speaker Redmond

Clerk o'Brien BvBv-9:, 3rd Rd.

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Speal:er Retlmond

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