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Dr.IzabellaWentz:

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Asyou'vebeenwatchingtheseries,youmayhaveheardusmentionguthealthatimeortwo.Didyouknowthatthyroidcellsandgutcellsactuallyhavethesamecellorigin?Thismeansthatthethingsthataffectyourgut,whethergoodorbad,canalsoaffectyourthyroid.Whenthinkingabouttherootcauseofthyroiddisease,allroadsleadbacktothegutandtheroleofmicrobeswithinourbodies.Theexcitingthingisthatwhenweaddressthehealthofourgut,ouroverallhealth,aswellasourthyroidhealth,improves.

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Guthealthandmicrobialbalanceiskeytoreversingyourthyroidcondition.Thisiswhywe'reequippingyouandyourlovedoneswiththisimportantinformation.Likeeveryotherepisodeinthisseries,youcanwatchthisoneabsolutelyfree.Letmealsoaskyoutoconsidersupportingourmissionbychoosingtoownthisseries.Helpustospreadtruthtothosewhoneeditmostbyclickingthelinkbelow.ChangeyourlifeorthelifeofsomeoneyoulovebymakingTheThyroidSecretyourstoday.

Herewego.Let'sdigintoanotherbreathtakingepisode.

Dr.SarahZielsdorf: [00:01:30]

Thegutiseverything.Thegutiseverything.Whenallopathicdoctorsgetapatientwhohasbeenreadingaboutthis,andtheysay,"IthinkIhavealeakygut,"theyjustcallthemcrazy.I'mamicrobiologist,andsoeverythinginmylifecamefullcirclewhenIrealizedthat,"Geez,thismechanismofautoimmunediseaseis,atitsheart,thegut."Steppingback,it'snotjustthyroid.

[00:02:00] Forautoimmunediseasetobeexpressed,youhavetohavethreeconditions.Icanbreakthisdown.One,youhaveageneticpredisposition.Two,youhaveanenvironmentaltriggerortriggers.Inyourbook,youtalkaboutrootcause,butwebothagreethatinmostcircumstances,apersonthathasHashimoto'shashundredsofrootcauses.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Multiplerootcauses.

Dr.SarahZielsdorf: [00:02:30]

Wenowknowofcoursethatthegutmicrobiotaplayanincrediblyimportantroleinallaspectsofhealth,notjustdigestivehealth,buteverythingfromhowyourendocrineglands,yourthyroidfunctions,youradrenals,yourbrain,throughthegut–brainaxis,yourskinhealthisdirectlyconnectedtoyourgut.Yourimmunefunction,bothyourabilitytofightoffinfectionsandalsothesusceptibilitytoautoimmunedisease.WehaveHippocratesover2,000yearsagowhosaidalldiseasebeginsinthegut.Theyknewthatalongtimeago,butwe'renowrediscoveringthatinWesternmedicine.

[00:03:00] DonnaGates:

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Thegutplaysaveryimportantroleinhavingahealthythyroid.Firstofall,20%ofthyroidhormoneisactuallymadeinthegut.Theotherthing,too,isthatifyouhavebadbacteriainthegut,thebacteriahavethissubstanceintheircellwallcalledLPS,lipopolysaccharide.Whentheydiebecauselet'ssaybacteriahavekilledthem,goodbacteriahavekilledthebadbacteria,whenevertheydie,theyreleasethesubstanceintothegutliningandit'svery,verytoxic.It'sdoingalotofbadthingsinthebody,includingcausinginflammationinthegut,butitalsodragsdownthethyroid.

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Thestomach,forexample,thewholedigestivetractisaffectedbythyroidhormone.Whenyourthyroidisunderactive,itslowsdownthefunctionofthestomach.Thestomach,whenyoueat,issupposedtoemptythefoodintothesmallintestine,especiallythebeginningofthesmallintestinecalledtheduodenum.Ifyou'reahypothyroidandhaveHashimoto's,forexample,yourstomachemptiesveryslowly,tooslowly.Itstaysinthestomach.Formen,it'snotgood.

Thenitalsocausesthewholeentiredigestivetracktobecomebasicallyconstipated.Itslowsdown.Ittendstoswellupandbecomedistended.Fooddoesn'tleavethebody.Itbecomesimpactedinthecolon.Itbasicallybecomesmoreandmoretoxic.

SteveWright: Everycellinthebodyneedsthyroidhormonetoworkproperly.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Yes.

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SteveWright:[00:04:30] [00:05:00]

Thatmeansallthecellsthatareinourgutsneedtheproperamountofthyroidhormonetodowhatthey'resupposedtodo,andeverycellinourbodyneedsnutrition.Theonlywaytogetthatnutritionisthroughthedigestion,absorptionthroughthegut.They'reforeverintertwinedinthatifyouhaveaprobleminthegut,eventuallyit'sgoingtoleadtoaprobleminthethyroidwhichwillthenfeedbackintothegut,whichisthefeedbackmechanismthat'sreallycommoninengineering,butthehealthprofessionalsdon'tthinkaboutitalot,whichiswhytheyhaveallthosedifferentspecialties.T4toT3conversionhappens...Partofithappensinthegut.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Absolutely.

SteveWright: That'sreallyimportant.Wewanttohaveaworkingguttohavethathappenproperly.

Dr.KellyannPetrucci: [00:05:30]

This,inmyopinion,isthenumberonereasonwhypeoplehavethyroidissues,whytheygetthyroidissuesandwhytheydon'tknowhowtohealtheirthyroidbecauseoftentimesitstemsfromthegut.Asickgutmakesasickthyroid.Evenifyoudon'thavesymptoms,yourthyroid,Icanassureyou,isnotrunningfullthrottlewhenyoudon'thaveahealthygut.Theygohandinhand.It'ssoimportant.

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Ifyoucanthinkaboutyourgut,thinkabout15feetofintestinalarea.Really,ifyoucanjustcloseyoureyesandyoucanpicturethisareahere.It'satubeandit's15feetlong.Throughoutthatwholetube,you'vegotmicrobes,reallybugsiswhattheyare.We'rebagsofbugs.We'reliterallybagsofbugs.That'swhatweare.It'ssoimportantforthatpopulationthroughthattubetobehealthy,tobeupbuilding,tohaveallofthatsurfacearealayeredwiththesehealthymicrobes.

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Ibelievethatthegutisacommonunderpinningbetweensomanyoftheproblemsthatwehave.Heartdiseaseisareallybigproblemwiththegut.Wehavediabetes.That'salsoanautoimmuneproblem.Allthesethingsthatyoudon'tthinkabout,heartdisease,diabetes,evenobesity,thyroid,autoimmunethyroid,they'realllinked.Thecommonunderpinningisthegut.Wheninpracticewehealthegut,wehealthepatient.Wehealthethyroid.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: [00:07:00]

Whowouldhavethoughtthatthehealthofourgutdirectlyimpactsthehealthofourthyroid?Well,maybeyouhadagutfeeling.Forgivethedadjokeshere.Essentially,we'retacklingthisissuefromthebottomup.Theproblemreallydoescentralizeinthegut.Ifyoucanunderstandwhat'scausingadisruptioninyourgutandhowtocreatetheoptimalhealthyenvironment,youcanseesomeincrediblethingshappenwithinyourbody.

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Haveyoueverheardofintestinalpermeability,alsoknownasleakygut?Thisusedtobesomethingthatwasonlybroughtupbyalternativemedicinepractitionersuntilveryrecentlywhenscientistsdiscoveredthatleakygutdoesinfactexist,andit'spresentineverysingleautoimmunecondition.What'smore,leakygutisatriggerforautoimmunedisease.Letusgodeeperintowhatleakygutreallyisandwhatcanbedoneaboutit.

SteveWright: [00:08:00]

Let'stalkaboutleakygutrealquick.Let'sdescribethegutastheTSAattheairport.TheTSAattheairportarecheckingeverybody.They'reverifyingeverythingthatgoesintotheairport.They'regettingyourID.They'remakingsureyoudon'thaveanymaliciousitems.That'sessentiallytheanalogyforwhatyourgutisdoing.Inaway,howthegutworkswhenit'sbreakingdownoncertainthingsisreallydiligentlycheckingforwhatshouldenterthebodyandwhatshouldn'tenterthebody.

Now,however,let'ssaysomethinggoeswrongattheairport.Let'ssaythere'safire.Everybodycanexit.Thesamethingcanhappentothegut.Thegutisactuallyabletoflushthingsbackintothegutandbecomepermeableifitwantsto.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Ilovetheexplanation. [00:08:30] SteveWright:

Exceptforinleakygutorsustainedchronicintestinalpermeability,what'shappenedistheTSAjustlefttheir...Theydidn'tshowuptoday,andsothelanesareopen.Nobodyneedstogothroughthebodyscanners.Peoplearejustwalkingovertheaisles.They'recarryingwhatevertheywanttocarry

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becausethebalancersortheguarddogsaren'tpresent,andsoanycharacterscangetin,carryinallkindsofbigbottlesofshampooandpoporwhatevertheywant,butit'sjustunchecked.That'swhathappensinleakygutsyndrome.Essentially,yourguarddogshaveleftthedutyandnowanythingcanslipbetweenyourgutcells.Itcouldbeokaystuff,butalotoftimesitisn'tokaystuffandthatcausesawholebunchofissues.


Someofthesymptomsofleakygut...Obviously,youandIhadirritablebowelsyndromeandthat'soneparticularsymptom.Whataresomeoftheothersymptomsthatpeoplemayhavethatwouldleavethemtobelievethattheyhaveleakygut?

SteveWright: HowIliketoexplainthisatthispointisthat,numberone,ifyouhaveautoimmunity,chancesareextremelyhighyouhaveleakygut.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Justgiven,justassumethatyouhaveit.

SteveWright: Imean,youdon'thavetoassume.Therearegoingtobeapercentage.Noonehasdonearesearchstudyyetsowedon'tknow.Ifyouhaveautoimmunity,it'sareallyhighchanceyoushouldtakethisveryseriously.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: [00:10:00][00:10:30]

Sayyouhaveafireinyourhouse,anunwantedfire,notlikeabeautifulfireplaceonacoldwinter'snight,ofcourse.I'mtalkingaboutthekindoffirethatisdangerousanduncontained.Whatdoyoudotoremedytheproblem?Startputtinggasolineonthefire?Ofcoursenot.Nooneintheirrightmindwoulddothat.Here'sthething.Whenyouhavealeakygut,somefoodsarelikethrowinggasonthefire.Theycanmaketheproblemworse.Now,let'sfindoutaboutthefoodsthataddgastoyourfire,andlet'smakearesolutiontogethertostopplayingwiththatfireandletitcool.

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Ididn'trealizethatIhadgutproblemsforareallylongtimeuntilIpersonallywentgluten-freeanddairy-free.Atthatpoint,IwassurprisedthatIwasn'tbloatedanymore,andthatIdidn'thavestomachachesonadailybasis.ThosethingswereapartofmylifeforsolongthatIjustthoughtitwasnormaltofeelbadafterIate.Thatitwasnormaltobebloatedanditwasnormaltohaveastomachache.Ireallyjustencourageyoutogiveitatry.Trysomeoftheseinterventionsthatsupportyourguttoseeiftheymakeadifferenceinyourlife.

Dr.TomO’Bryan: Ifyouhaveanautoimmunedisease,there'snoquestionthatyougotintestinaldamage,yougottearsinthecheesecloth.Untilyougetallofyourmarkersforthatautoimmuneconditiondown,gluten-free,dairy-free,sugar-free.


WeknowthateverypersonwithHashimoto'sisgoingtohaveintestinalpermeabilityoraleakygut.Now,wheneverwehaveintestinalpermeability,thisisgoingtomakeussensitivetoavarietyofdifferentfoods.Themostcommonfoodsthatwe'regoingtobesensitivetoaregoingtobetheverybigproteins.Thisincludegluten,dairy,andsoy.Wheneverweeatthesefoods,antibodiesaregoingtobeproducedtothem.

What'sinterestingisthesametypeofantibodiesthatareproducedtothesefoodsarealsoproducedtothethyroidgland.Wheneverwehaveapersonwithaleakygutthateatshardtodigestproteinfoods,they'reinadvertentlyacceleratingthedamageontheirthyroidgland.

[00:12:00] SteveWright: [00:12:30]

Ifyouareeatingsomethingthatyou...Idon'tliketolabelfoodsnecessaryasgoodorbadanymore.I'vebeendoingthisforeightyears.It'sjustarangeofpotentialinflammatorinessandnutrientdensity,andwejustthrowthemonthereandsee...Itreallycomesdowntoeachindividual.Whatcanyouactuallyeat,absorbandnotreactto?Ifyou'recurrentlyeatinglet'ssaycorn,andyou'rereactingtoit,nowisnotjusttherighttimeforyourbodytobeeatingthatbecauseyoudevelopthatfoodsensitivitythroughleakygut.Theneverytimeyoueatcornafterthatandyoureacttoit,yourimmunesystemisgoingnutsrightoutsideyourgutwall.

Thegutwallisonlyonecellthick,whichissurprising.Ourskinissevenlayers.Thegutisonlyone.Let's

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sayyouhadahundredimmunecells.There'sahundredsoldiersinsideyourbody.80ofthemwouldbestationedrightherejustwaitingincasesomethinghappens.Well,ifyou'reallergictocornoryoucan'tcurrentlyprocesscorn,youhaveintolerancetoit,thosesoldiersarejuststandingguard.Corncomesintothebodyand20ofthemjuststartgoingnuts.Abyproductofthemsavingyourlifefromcorninthismomentisdestructiontothetissuethat'shealthyaroundthere.Thatjustperpetuatestheleakygutandperpetuatesanyhormonedisturbancesandreallyjustslowlyyou'remalabsorbing,hormonesareoutofwhackandyoujustkeepgoingdown.

[00:13:30] Dr.IzabellaWentz:

Allright.Let'stakeastepback.Whydoesthegutgetleakyinthefirstplace,andwhydosomanypeoplehaveautoimmunethyroiddisease?Weknowthatthisisahugeproblem.Inordertosolvetheproblem,wemustfirstunderstandwhat'scausingit.I'llgiveyouaclue.It'swhat'sinsideofourgut.Didyouknowthatwehavemorebacterialcellsinourbodiesthanwedoofourowncells?Thesemicroscopicorganismscandeterminethefunctionofourimmunecells.I'dliketointroduceyoutothemicrobiome.

[00:14:00] Dr.RaphaelKellman: [00:14:30]

Thereisabsolutelyanepidemicofthyroiddiseaseinourmoderndayforthreemainreasons.Oneisautoimmunity.Thereisagrowingincidenceofautoimmunediseasesforanumberofreasons.ThenamefortheautoimmunediseaseasitappliestothethyroidisHashimoto'sthyroiditis.Interestingly,that'snotthemaincause,inmyopinion.Let'stalkalittlebitaboutHashimoto's.It'sanautoimmunedisease.

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Allautoimmunediseasestodayarerisingincidenceforanumberofreason.Well,youknowthatanautoimmunediseaseiswhentheimmunesystemthat'ssupposedtoguardandprotectourowncellsfromantigens,fromtoxins,frombacteriaormicrobesthatarenotpartofourintegratedecosystem.Instead,they'reactually,formanyreasons,attackingourowntissue.Whenitcomestothethyroid,they'reattackingthethyroid.They'remisfiringandtheinflammatoryresponseishereagainstthethyroid.

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Theseautoimmunediseasesaregrowingsignificantly.Toalargedegree,it'sbecausetheinnerecology,themicrobiome,thetrillionsofbacteriathatoutnumberourowncells10to1andtheirgeneticsoutnumberourgenes150to1.Themicrobiomeandusareanancientprimordialally.Infact,themicrobiomeplaysprobablythemostsignificantroleinouroverallhealth.Ilookatthemicrobiomeasthesoftwareofourphysiology.Ithasdeepreaches,deepreach,intoourphysiology.Itplaysasignificantroleinkeepingtheguthealthy.

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Incredibleroleinimmunologicalfunction.Infact,themicrobiomeandtheimmunesystemareoppositesidesofthesamecoin.Itplaysasignificantroleinbrainfunction.Itmodulatestheimmunesystem.Thatisonereasonwe'reexperiencingautoimmunitytodaybecauseifthemicrobiomeisnothealthy,theimmunesystemisnotgoingtobehealthy.Whentheimmunesystemisnothealthy,thebodyisgoingtobeinainflammatorystateassociatedwithsomanydiseases,anditismuchmorepronetoautoimmunediseaseswhetherit'sHashimoto's,whetherit'slupus,whetherit'srheumatoidarthritis.Themechanismisthesame.Allroadsofhealthanddiseaseleadstothemicrobiome.Whenthemicrobiomeisunhealthy,thegutwallbeginstobreakdown.

[00:17:00] Now,partiallydigestedfoodsbegintoleakthroughtheintestinalwall.Theimmunesystemisfurtheraggravatedandthisbecomesanendlesscycleandcascade.Thisisoneofthemainreasons.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Whenourmicrobiomeisoutofbalance,ourwholeimmunesystemandourwholebodycanbecomeoutofbalanceaswell.Thegoodnewsisoncewerestorebalancewithinourmicrobiome,wecanrestorebalancewithinourhealth.

Dr.JillCarnahan: [00:17:30]

Thoseimbalancesinthemicrobeswillsendsignalstotheimmunesystemthatsomethingisnotgoingright.Sometimesit'sfoodrelated,too,soit'slikefoodplusthemicrobiome,thingslikegluten.Somepeoplecanbeatrigger,orratherfoodallergens,butallofthesetriggers,thesesignalsinthegutlumensendittotheimmunesystemandthentheimmunesystemstartstoattackitself.Ofcourse,

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that'saproblem.

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Ifyougobacktothemicrobiomeandstarttofindbalanceandyoueitherhealortreat...Say,there'saparasiticinfection,afungalovergrowthorthingslikeSIBO,smallintestinalbacterialovergrowth,orevenjustablatantinfectionlikeklebsiellaandtreatingthose.Thenyoustopthatsignallingtotheimmunesystemandyoucanactuallyreversetheautoimmunity.


Whenyouheartheword"infection,"youstartthinkingaboutmaybehavingacold,afluorperhapsthatinfectedcutonyourskin,right?Maybeyou'vehadinfectionsthatrequiredantibiotics.Ingeneral,whenwethinkofinfections,they'reprettyobviousandshort-lived.Youhavearunnynose.Yousneeze.Youcough.Thenafewweekslater,it'sallover.Maybeyouhaveacutonyourskinthatstartstobecomeswollenandred.Thenyougetsomeointmentforitanditgoesaway.ThekindofinfectionsI'mtalkingaboutaremuchmoresinister.They'rechroniclowgradeinfectionsthatgoundetectedforyears,buttheirpresenceisdefinitelyfelt.Today,manypeoplelivewithchronicinfectionsandhavenoideaoftheassaultthattheseinfectionsaretakingontheirbodies.Let'sdiscoverthetruthaboutinfections.

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Therearethreedifferentwaysinwhichinfectionscantriggerautoimmunedisease.Oneofthefirstwaysisknownasmolecularmimicrywhenaninfectiousagentlookslikethethyroidgland.Whenevertheimmunesystemisfightingthatinfection,itlooksforacertainproteinsequence.Wheneveritseesthatproteinsequence,itwillattack.Insomecases,someinfectionslikeborrelia,yersinia,othertypesofinfections,H.pylori,havedifferentproteinsequencesonthemthatlooklikethethyroidgland.Inthatcase,it'sacaseofamistakenidentitybecausetheimmunesystemtriestogoafteraninfectionandalsogoesafterwhateverlooksliketheinfection.

Thesecondmechanismisknownasthebystandereffect.Inthiscase,there'saninfectionusuallyinsideofthethyroidgland,mostcommonlyit'saviralinfection,thatcausesinflammation.Whathappensistheimmunesystembeginstoattacktheinfectioninitshome.Theimmunesystemattacksthethyroidglandinanefforttogetridoftheinfection.

[00:20:00] ThethirdwayinwhichaninfectioncantriggerHashimoto'sisthroughintestinalpermeability.Now,weknowthatintestinalpermeabilityisanimportantfactineveryautoimmunecondition,includingHashimoto's.Someinfectionscauseustohavealeakygutandthatresultsashavinganattackonthethyroidglandandabreakdownofourimmunetolerance.

Dr.DavidBrady: [00:20:30]

There'salotofthingsoutthereintheenvironmentthatareeffectivelysabotagingourthyroid.Wehaveheavymetalsandothertypesoftransitionalmetalslikemercury,forinstance,andleadareverymuchknowntocauseproblemswithenzymesystemswhichmetabolizeandconvertthyroidhormones.There'sthiswholeenvironmentaltoxinangleonit,butthere'salsoanotheronewhichisthewholeautoimmunediseaseexplosion.Oneoftheprimetargetsofautoimmunityinthehumanbodyisthethyroidgland.There'smultipleknowntriggersandthere'smanymorethatwedon'tknow.

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Weknowcertainvirusesthatarepronetobecomechronicthatwegetexposedto,weneverquitefullygetridof.WegetridofthatactiveviralinfectionlikeinthecaseofEpstein–Barrvirusandmono,let'ssay,orcytomegalovirus,orHSV,orHTLV-1.Thesearevirusesthatmosthumansgetexposedto,atleastintheWesternworld,andwesuppressbutweneverquitetotallygetridof.Someofthosevirusescanactuallydosomeoftheirdirtyworkinthethyroidglanditself,andthenwhentheimmunesystemistryingtocontainthoseviruses,itcanactuallyinadvertentlydamagethethyroidgland.It'scalledthebystandereffect.

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Thenthere'sanothereffectwheresomepeoplearepronetoovergrowthofcertainbacteriainthegastrointestinaltract.ThewholeareaoftheGImicrobiotaorthesebugsthatgrowinourgutbeingalteredbyourmodernenvironment,ourmodernfoodsupply,stress,modernmedications,moderndiet,thosechangesarenotnecessarilygoodchanges.Ifyouhaveovergrowthoraflourishingoforganismsthatreallyshouldn'tbethereinthequantitythattheycommonlyarenow,someofthese

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organismscanactuallytriggeranautoimmuneresponseagainstdifferenttissuesinthebody.

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Oneoftheprimeexamplesofthisisthebacteriacalledyersiniaenterocoliticawhichcanovergrowinthegut.IthasproteinsonitthatlookedliketheTSHreceptorproteinsonthethyroid.Whilethebody'simmunesystemistryingtocombatbasicallythisinfectioninthegut,thoseantibodiesthatareproducedagainstthatantigenonthebacteria,theyseethatTSHreceptoronthethyroidthat'ssupposedtobetheretorespondtohormonesanditlookscloseenoughsoitattachestoit.Itdirectsanimmuneresponse,whichisadestructiveinflammatoryresponseagainstthethyroiditself.Theimmunesystemistryingtotacklethebacteria,butit'sgettingderailedandgettingreprogrammed,ifyouwill,toattackthethyroid.That'scalledmolecularmimicry.It'snotuniquetojustthatbacterium,butit'sacommoneffectthatwe'reunderstandingmoreandmoreinautoimmunedisease.


Therearevarioustypesofinfectionsthatcantakepresenceinourbodies,makeourintestinesleakyandconfuseourimmunesystem.Theycouldbebacteria,viruses,fungiandevenparasites.NotmanyofusintheWesternworldwouldeverthinkthatwecouldbeinfectedwithparasites,butletmetellyouintestinalparasitesaresomeofthemostcommontypesofinfectionsthatI'veseeninmypracticeinpeoplewithautoimmunethyroiddisease.Let'sdiscovermorefromDr.DanKalish.

Dr.DanKalish: [00:24:00]

Youwouldn'tthinkthere'dbeevenaremoteconnection.Whenpeoplehaveparasiticinfectionsoranykindofinfectioninthedigestivetract,it'sgoingtogenerateaninflammatoryresponse.Weknow,well,I'msureotherexpertstalkaboutthisquiteabit,thatwhenthebodyisinflamed,especiallywhenit'schronicallyinflamed,thewaythatthyroidhormonesareproduced,changessignificantly.We'reunabletomanufacturethehealthythyroidhormonesadequatelywhenthebodyisinachronicstateofinflammation.

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Thenthere'soneotherbigconnectionthat'sverydirectwhichisthatbecauseaparasiticinfectionisinthedigestivetractliningitself,it'sgoingtodegradeanddamagethegutliningwhichleadstoasyndromecalledleakygut,whichagaincanbeanothertriggerforthyroidproblems.It'saninflammatoryprocessandit'saninflammatoryprocessinareallyhorribleplaceintermsofthetriggeringofautoimmuneproblems.

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Thisiswherethingsgetextremelytricky.Youwouldthinkthatwithamajorinfectioninyourdigestivetractyouwouldhavedigestivetractsymptoms.Somepeopledobutthevastmajorityofpeoplethatwetestforparasitesthatwefindhaveparasiteshaveabsolutelynodigestivesymptomsatallthattheycomplainabout.Thismakestheproblemdoublychallengingbecausemostpeoplethathavetheinfectionsdon'trealizethey'representunlesstheytakethetimeandenergytodoanaccuratetest.

Dr.ToddWatts: [00:25:30]

Hashimoto'sisthemostcommonthyroiddiseaseIbelieve,andsomanypeoplehavewhatIrelatetoasaninfectionthatcausesthat.IhavefourmostcommoninfectionsthatIseewithHashimoto's.ThenumberoneisEpstein–Barrvirus.Epstein–BarrvirusreallycausestremendousamountofinflammationintheantibodiesthatcomeupinHashimoto's.ThesecondoneIseealotofisLymedisease.TheotheronesIseeareH.pyloriorotherintestinalbacteria,aswellasintestinalparasites.

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Myspecialtyisinintestinalparasitesortheparasiticinfectionsinthebody.WhatIseewiththatisthatitcreatesthisroleofleakygut.Leakygutisthefirstthingyouhavetofixwhenyou'redealingwithHashimoto's.ThetreatmentoptionsIworkwithinitiallyregardstoallthoseinfections,thefirstthingIaddressisEpstein–Barrvirus.Ifthat'sinthere,itsuppressesthebody'sabilitytomakeenergyandtorepair.Tobeabletofixtheproblemsthere,youhavetofixthecell.Toalsorecreateenergythroughthecell,there'sanorganelleintherecalledthemitochondria.Itcreatesalotofdysfunctionwiththeabilitytomakeenergyandtorepair.That'sthekeypartistorepairandtoalsoupstreamorgettheimmunitytoreallyworkingagain.

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Afterthatpoint,thenIgointotheotherintestinalinfectionsandrepairthegutsothatthefoodsdon'thavesuchaseverereaction.Aswewellknow,gluten,peoplewhoareglutenintolerantandtheglutencausesomuchflaresupinthethyroidsorestoringtheproperphysiologyofthestomach,gettingthe

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stomachacidbackuptothelevelsitneedstobe.We'llalsohelppushouttheH.pyloriandotherbacterialinfections.Thenfromthere,removingtheparasiteswillalsoallowthathealingandtheenzymestoworkandbreakdowntheseproteinsthatseemtobeverydamagingsuchasgluten,caseininthebodythere.That'swheremyfocusis,isgoingthroughanddealingwiththat.

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Whenthey'retreatedandafterweremovealltheseinfectionsandrepairthegut,boy,justthesensitivitiestofoodsgowaydown.Theenergylevelscomeup.Thethyroidcangetachancetoreallyhealandthenutrientscanactuallygetinthere.That'sabigpartof...Someoftheinfectioninhibitsthenutrientsthatareneededtoallowthethyroidtoproducethehormoneandtoalsoheal.Aswedownplayinflammationinthebodyandupregulatetheimmunesystem,thepatientsstarttofeelalotbetterandcomebacktolife.Alotofthemareevenabletocomeofftheirthyroidmedsbecausetheycanfunctionnowwithoutthem.I'veseenalotofpatientsdothat.It'sbeengreat.


ThequestionweshouldallbeaskingrightnowiswhatcanIdotohealmygut?Ifyouwanttoanswerthisquestionandarewillingtoimplementtheprotocolsthatwillturnaroundyourgutissues,thenyou'reinforatreat.Sadly,conventionalmedicineviewsgutrelatedissueslikeleakygutasanenigma,acodethattheyjustcan'tcrackbecausetheybelievetheydon'thaveenoughinformationonit.Thetruthistheinformationandsolidevidencehasbeenglaringusrightintheface.Wecantakecontrolofourhealth.Let'sseewhatthetruesolutionis.

Dr.TomO'Bryan: [00:29:00]

It'sashift.Thefirstshiftisrecognizingthatthere'snomagicpillforthyroidautoimmunedisease.There'snomagicpill.Thesecondshiftisrecognizingthatit'sgoingtotaketimetoreversethedamagethat'saccruedandifyoucanacceptthatandthenjustlookforthesmallwinsregularly.Thethirdis,andmyrecommendationtopeople,onehouraweek,canyougiveonehouraweektojustdoingsomeresearchonthistopicthatyou...

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Ilovethat.

Dr.TomO’Bryan: ...justonehouraweek.

ChrisKresser: [00:29:30]

Somethingthat'simportanttounderstandisthatabout30%ofpeoplewithvariousgutconditionsdon'tactuallyhavegutsymptoms.Ifyouhaveathyroidconditionandyourgutdoesn'tbotheryou,thatdoesn'tnecessarilymeanthatit'snotcontributingtotheproblem.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Thisiswherewegetreal.Whataretheactualthingsyoucandotodaytoseeyourhealthturnaroundforthebetter?Howareyougoingtomakeastandforyourhealthandactivelyhealyourgutfromthetriggersthatyou'vebeenexposedto?Let'sdigintoexactlywhatyoucanstartdoingtodaysoyoucangettheresultsyoudeserve.

[00:30:00] Dr.JoshAxe: [00:30:30]

Ithinkthere'saseveralstepprocess.Iwouldsaystepnumberoneisstartremovingthosetriggersthatarecausinggutinflammationandthingsthatarekillingoffthebeneficialmicrobesorprobioticsthatarefoundinthegutlining.Acoupleofthingswewanttodo.Wewantto,again,removethosetriggersandwewanttostartpeelingthegutliningandbuildingupthosegoodmicrobesthatlineyourgutwall.Forstarters,someofthebiggesttriggers...Iknowthesearethingsthatpeoplerealizeormaybeyou'veheardfromotherexperts.Weknowglutenisamajorissue.Weknowcasein,essentiallyproteinsthatarepre-brokendownforusthatareveryhardtodigest.Thosewillabsolutelycausegutinflammation.

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Thenthereareotherthingssuchasweknowsugarandrefinedgrains.Oneofthebigissueswithsugarandrefinedgrainsistheyfeedyeastandcandidawithinthebody.AnotherbigthingIwanttomentionherethat'sabigtriggerforgutissues,Dr.Izabella,isanytypeofchemicalthatactuallydamagesthegutlining.Infact,Iheardoctorssayallofthetimetopatients,"Drinkmorewater."Well,Iencouragepeopletodrinkmorecleanwaterthat'sfilteredorfromaspring,naturalwater.Theproblemwithourconventionaltapwatertodayisit'sloadedwithchlorineandfluoride.Fluoridespecificallyhasbeenshowntokilloffbeneficialmicrobesinourgutwhichisgoingtocausemoreleakygut,whichinturnis

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goingtocausemoreautoimmuneissues,morethyroidproblems.

[00:31:30] Iwouldsaysomeofthebiggestissuespeopleneedtobeawareoforwhattheyneedtoremoveisgluten,casein,sugar,refinedgrains,hydrogenatedoils,toomanyomega-6fats.Ithinkalotofpeopleareeatinghealthysnackslikehealthypotatochips.They'reloadedwithsunfloweroil,whichisreallyhighonomega-6.Thoseomega-3,omega-6balancesarecompletelyoutofwhack.Stepnumberone,Iremovethosetoxicfoodsfromthediet.

[00:32:00] ThenextthingIwouldsayisstartaddingingutrepairingfoods.Ithinkthenumberonefoodontheplanetforrepairingguthealthisbonebroth.Youcoulddobonebrothliquid.Makingyourownchickensoupathome.Youcouldbuyabonebrothproteinpowder.Addthattoasmoothie.Ireallythinkbonebrothisincredibleforafewreasons.

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Oneofthethingsthatwetendtogettoday,Dr.Izabella,inourdietisalotofmusclemeatprotein.Wegetproteinfrommusclemeat.Wealsogetproteinfromthingslikeplants,maybefrombeans,orfrommushrooms,orfromvegetables,butwe'renotgettingproteinoraminoacidsfromcartilageandfromorganmeatsofanimals.Ifyoulookatwhatourancestorsate,theywerealwaysconsumingeverylastpartoftheanimal.Theywouldconsumethecartilage.Theywouldalwaysbemakingbonebroth.Theywouldalsoeatthingslikechickenliver,andbeefliver,andactuallyeattheorgans.Again,bonebroth,mynumberonesuperfoodforhealingthegutaswellasthethyroid.

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Numbertwofoodwillbeprobiotic-richfoods.Thingslikefermentedvegetablesareverybeneficial.NumberthreeIwouldsayisgoingtobejustvegetablesingeneral.Cookedvegetablescanbeveryhighinvitalnutrients.VitaminsandmineralsIthinkaregreat.ThenextthingI'llsayisfoodsthatarehighinomega-3fats.Omega-3saresoimportantbecausetheyhelpreduceinflammation,whichIthinkisabsolutelykeywhenitcomestohealingthegutlining.Thenumberfivewouldbejustmoreprobiotic-richfoods.Gettingprobioticsinyourdietonaregularbasisiskey.

Iwouldsayanidealdietforanybodystrugglingwithleakygut,autoimmunediseaseandthyroidproblemisgoingtobegettingbonebroth,gettingorganicfree-rangemeats,gettingloadsandloadsandloadsofcookedvegetables,doingsomefruitinmoderationandthenfocusingonsomeprobiotics.Iwouldsaythat'stheidealdietforrepairingthegut.

ChristaOrecchio: [00:34:00]

Steponeistoslashinflammation.That'sprobablythemostimportant,especiallyforanybodyeatingthestandardAmericandietoreatingoutalot,havingalotofhighomega-6and9damagedoils,wherethey'rehavinghigheramountsofsugar.Allofthisisdoingalotofdamage.Antibioticsinthemeatsupplyisatragedy,inmyopinion.Wereallywanttoshifttostartslashinginflammationandeatingamuchhigherqualityofdiet.Whenyou'rehealingthemicrobiome...

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IlovevegansandIsupportthemwheneverIcanbutitismucheasierifyouwilleathighqualitycleananimalprotein,andhighqualityanimalfats,andvegetablesbecausethere'stwohugegroupsofbacteria.Ifweweretotakethekingdomofbacteriaandbreakitintothetwomajorphylums,wehavebacteroidesandwehavefirmicutes.Bacteroidesshouldbethedominantgroupthatwearehostingwithinourdigestivesystem.Ifyouconsumethosefoods,that'soneoftheonlyways...Imean,Iknowsomemolecularbiologistworkingoncreatingthatstrainthatyoucantakebutthat'sreallytheonlywaytoreallygetthemtobethedominanthost.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: We'retalkingaboutslashinginflammation.Wedothatthroughorganiccleaneating,supplements.

ChristaOrecchio: Yeah,youdothatthroughorganiccleaneating,noGMO,sugar,alcohol.Allthefunstuffhastogoforalittlewhile.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Yeah,temporarily.

ChristaOrecchio: Caffeinecanthintheliningofthegut.Carbonatedbeveragescanthintheliningofthegut.

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Dr.IzabellaWentz: Carbonatedbeverages,too,solikePellegrino,sparklingwater? [00:35:30] ChristaOrecchio:

Right.It'snottonotconsumethosebutjustdon'toverconsumethose.Threeweeksorsomething,that'sfine.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Weknowthatpeoplewithhypothyroidismarealsogoingtobepronetohavinglowstomachacid.That'sgoingtobegiven.AbigpercentageofthemIwouldsayusuallybenefitfrominterventionsthatsupporttheirstomachacidproductionsothingslikelemonwaterorevendoingbetainewithpepsin.

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Thenthefirststepistalkingaboutbalancingstomachacid.WeknowthatpeoplewithHashimoto's,withGraves'disease,withanykindofautoimmunethyroiddisorder,themajorityofthemareactuallygoingtohavelowstomachacid.Sometimesthatcanmanifestasacidrefluxandothersymptoms.What'sactuallyhappeningistheydon'thaveenoughstomachacid.Thishappensinalotofpeoplewithgutissuesandalotofpeoplewithautoimmunedisease.Youactuallyfocusonreestablishingthatstomachacid.


Yeah,it'sacrucialsteplikefinishingapaintingtomakesurethatthehealthlasts.I'msureyou'vehadsomanypatientsthattheyhavelowstomachacidandthey'retakinginacidsandtheyjustdon'tknow.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Yes,yes,unfortunately.

Whatarethesupplementsthatyoucanusetodaytohealyourgut?Asapharmacist,Icantellyouthatnotallsupplementsarecreatedequally.Manycanbecompletelyineffectivewhileothersmayevenbedownrightharmful.Ifyoucanunderstandwhattolookforandwhattoavoidliketheplague,youcanhavetheassurancethatyou'regoingtototakesomethingthatwillhealandnothurtyou.

[00:37:00] Dr.JillCarnahan:

Herewehavebutyrate.Superimportantforoneofthefuelsforthegutmicrobesandprobiotics,whichareactuallyoverhere,soallkindsofprobioticsaswell.Thosearethebasicsbecauseoftenyoucancrowdoutbadguysbygivinggoodguys.

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Now,I'moneofthemindsetthatyoudon'twanttojustoverdoonestrainofprobioticbecauseyoucanactuallycreateamonoculture.Nowadays,Ithinksomepeoplearetakingthesuperhighpotencyprobiotics.Allofasudden,they'rehavingtroubleswithmonocultureofthegoodbacteria.RotatingthemIthinkisimportant,differentbrands.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Now,whatabouttheprobioticquestion?Areprobioticsreallyhelpfulinaidingguthealth?

KiranKrishnan: [00:38:00]

TheWorldHealthOrganizationdefinesaprobioticasalivemicroorganism.Whentakeninadequateamounts,conferahealthbenefittothehost.That'sthescientificallyaccepteddefinition.Thefirstpartofthatdefinitionisincrediblyimportant,thelivemicroorganismpart.Welookathownaturedesignedustogetprobioticsversuswhatwe'redoingnowinthemodernage.There'sahugedisparity,ahugedifference.Thewaynaturedesignedustogetprobioticsisreallyfromourfoodandfromourenvironment.

Ourancestorsevolvedwithprobioticsoverthelastthreetofivemillionyears.There'sbeenthisgreatsymbioticrelationshipthathasdevelopedbetweencertaintypesofbacteriaandthehumanhost.Weprovidethemahomeandtheyprotectthathome.That'sessentiallywhatthey'resupposedtodo.

[00:38:30] Now,whereourancestorsgotexposuretothesebacteriawasintheoutsideenvironment.Theyateofftheland.Theywerehunters,gatherers,foragerssotheyatedirtessentially.Dirt,goodcleandirtfromnatureisactuallyreallyteemingwithawholebunchofbacteriathatcanreallyhelpfunctioninyourgutandcreatesomebalanceandcreatesomeprotection.Inreality,whatwe'resupposedtobegettingisenvironmentalbacteriathathavethecapabilityoffunctioningofthegut.That'swherenatureintended.

[00:39:00] Now,ashumanstoday,wemodernizeeverythingandwemakeeverythingsimple,andquick,and

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easy.Now,wegetourprobioticsfromcapsules,andtablets,andyogurts,andthingslikethat.Theproblemisthevastmajorityofstrainsdon'treallysurvivethroughthegastricsystem.Theydon'tgointothegutandlivethereandactuallycreateanyfunctionalchange.Myadvicetopeopleisalwayslookforprobioticsthatareactuallyfromnature,meaningfromtheenvironment,buthaveacapabilityoflivinginthegutandactuallycreatingafunctionalchange.


Whataresomeofthebenefitsthatpeopleseewhentheystarttakingprobiotics?

KiranKrishnan: [00:40:00]

Ifyou'vetakenareallygoodprobiotic,onethatactuallyfunctionsinyourgutasalivingmicrobe,oneofthefirstthingsthatyou'llnoticeisimprovementsandregularityofyourbowelmovements.Thegoodgutbacteriawithinyourgutreallycontrolthepaceofwhichyourgutmoves.That'soneofthefirstthingsthatpeoplereporttous.Theysaidrightoffthebattheyhavebetterregularityandtheyhavebettergastricclearance.Whatthatmeansisafancywordofsayingyou'vegotmuchbetterpoop.You'reclearingyourbowelsmuchbetter.Thatmeanstheperistalticactivityinyourintestinaltractisworkingbetter.Yourcolonisworkingbetter.It'spushingthingsoutthatdon'tneedtobethere.

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Theotherthingthatpeoplewillnoticeisthey'regettingmorebenefitandenergyfromtheirfood.Oneofthebigfactorsinarealprobioticisthatit'ssupposedtoenhanceyourbody'sabilitytodigestyourfood.Wecaneatallthehealthyfoodwewant.Ialwaystellpeopleit'snotyouarewhatyoueat,it'syouarewhatyouabsorb.Ifyou'renotbreakingdownthefoodandabsorbingallthenutrients,you'renotgettingthebenefit.Wedependonourbacteriainourgutformorethan50%ofourdigestion.Agoodprobioticshouldhelpyourbodydigestthefood.Whatyou'llfindismoresatietyfromsmallermeals,gettingmoreenergyfromthefoodandyougetmorenutritionfromthefoodsoyoushouldsleepbetter.Youshouldbemorealert.Youshouldhavebetterenergy,bettershort-termmemory,allofthesethingsthatcomefromjustgettingyourbasicnutritionintoyoursystem.Thosearethemostimmediatechangesthatpeopletypicallynotice.

Forpeoplethathavehormonebalanceissues,they'llstarttonoticesomeofthesymptomatologyoftheirhormoneimbalance,thingslikemoodalterations,fatigue,eventhingslikefibromyalgia,nervepain.Allthesethingscanreallybealleviatedwithinafairlyshortamountoftimeifthey'retakingtherightprobioticandgetting,ofcourse,goodfood,gooddiettofeedthoseprobiotics.


Weknowthateverypersonwiththyroiddiseaseisgoingtohaveintestinalpermeabilityorleakygut.We'realwayslookingforinnovativestrategiestohelpthat.IreallywanttothankyouforintroducingmetoMegaSporeProbioticswhichareauniquesolutiontohealingthegut.Canyoutellusalittlebitmoreabouthowtheyworkandwhytheyworksowell?

MichaelRoesslein: [00:42:00]

Yeah,wefoundeditabouttwoyearsago.Honestly,ifyouweretotellmethenthatIwouldseewhatI'veseeninthelasttwoyears,Iprobablywouldn'thavebelievedyou.Thewaythattheyworkisdifferentthantraditionalprobiotics.They'respore-basedorganisms.They'renotyourtraditionallactobacillusandbifidobacterium.Theysurvivethestomachenvironment.Theygetintothegutandsomeofthefunctionstheyperformrelatedirectlytoleakygutinthattheyincreasetheexpressionofproteinsthatclosethetightjunctions.

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ThefirstpersonIevergaveittowasmymother-in-law.Shehadlifelongpetallergies.Shelovesanimals.Shecouldn'tbearoundcatsordogsforgoingon35years.NotevenifIwasaroundthedogandwentnearher,itcouldbeenoughtoputherintoanasthmaattackthatwouldsendhertothehospital.Shehadinhalers,medications,allthis.WhenIfirstmetmywife,shetoldmethisandIjustfoundMegaSporeandIhadn'tgivenittoanyoneyet.Ithought,"Well,thisisagoodchancetogiveitashot."Itwasmoreforher.ShehasHashimoto's.Iwasgivingittohermorefortheautoimmuneaspects.

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Shegotbacktomemaybethreeweeksafterthat.Thatshewasaroundherneighbor'sdoganddidn'thaveanautoimmuneattack.Shestillwantedtoplayitsafe.Shecameouttoourplace.Wehavepetsinasmallplace.Shewentaroundthebackandwentoutsideanddidn'tevencomein,lookedthrough

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thepatiodoor,sawtheanimals,reallywantedtopetthemandsoshedid.Shewentinside.Shepettheanimals.Noresponse.Noasthma.Nobreathingproblems.Notrouble,whatever.Itputsherintearstotalkaboutit.Now,Igetmessagesfromhereverytimeshegoestoanewplacethathasanimalsandshegetstopettheanimals,playwithanimalsandit'sbeentwoyearsnow.Shehasnomoreinhaler,nomoremedications,nomoreasthmaattacks.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: That'sreallynicewhenyoucangivepeoplebacktheirfreedom.

MichaelRoesslein: [00:44:00] [00:44:30]

Yeah.Ihavepeoplecometouswherethey'relike,"Icanonlyeatfourfoods."I'mlike,"Ilovefoodandthatwouldbeterrible."Plus,weneedmorefooddiversity.Whenwetalkedtoexpertsonourmicrobiomestuff,theyalltalkaboutfooddiversitybecausedifferentbeneficialorganismsintheguteatdifferentthings.Ifweliveofffourfoods,you'regoingtojustperpetuatetheproblemifyou'redoingthatovertime.Thosedietshavetheirplace.Whatwe'veseenwiththesporesisthatpeopleareabletoeliminatealotofthosefoodsensitivitiesfasterandprogresstoamorenormaldietfasterversusstayingonthosetherapeuticdietsforyears.Wehavepeoplecometoussay,"ForyearsI'veonlyeatenchickenbreast,broccoli,andoneotherfood.It'slikeohmygod."

It'sreallygreattobeabletogettheseemails.Ijustpostedonethismorningactually,amessageIgotfromsomeonesaying,"Imadeasmoothiewith..."Idon'tevenrememberwhattheingredientswere.There'seightingredientsinit.She'slike,"Threemonthsago,Icouldn'ttouchsixofthesefoodssothankyouforallowingmetohavethis."Idon'tdoit.Wedon'tdoit.Thesporesdoit.It'scool.It'sreallycooltosee.


Iwantyoutostartimplementingtheguthumanchangesyoulearnedaboutassoonaspossible.Youshouldseeimprovementsinaslittleasafewshortdays.Now,asecretthatsomepractitionersmaynotevenknowaboutistheroleofinfectionsintriggeringautoimmunity.Thisiswhythenextsectionisreallyimportantforyoutolistento.Youmayneedtoeducateyourpractitionersonhowtoaddressinfections.Let'sdigintosomeothercommoninfectionsthatcouldbeaffectingyourlifeorthelifeofsomeoneyoulove.

[00:45:30] DonnaGates:

Candidiasisisasystemicinfection.Itcanbeinthegut.Youcanhaveaproblemwithyeastgrowinginyourgut,butitcanalsogothroughouttheentirebody.Thisinfectionisonthespectrum.Itcanbemild.Itcanvery,verysevere.Itcanbesosevere.Let'ssayyouhavecancerandyougotoradiationandchemo,andyouryeastinfectionbecomesverysevere,andyoudiefromit.AIDSpatientsdiefromitbecausetheirimmunesystemissoweak.Theimmunesystemiswhatisholdingtheseintoplace,basically.

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Theyeastsecretetoxins,over79differenttoxins.Oneofthoseisacetaldehyde.Acetaldehydeplaysahugeroleorhasahugeeffectontheentirebody,includingthethyroid,too.AcetaldehydekeepsT4fromconvertingintoT3forexamplesoyouhavenoenergy.WhatIrecommendedforthelast20yearsandstillstandbyittothisdayisyou'vegottobeinagluten-free,sugar-free,dairy-freediet.Maybelateronyoucanintroducedairy.Youshouldneverintroduceglutenintoyourdietforawholebunchofreasons.Ifyouwanttointroducesugarintoyourdiet,youpaythepriceforit.

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Iknowthatat70yearsold,I'mnotaginglikemostpeopleinmygeneration.Itevensurprisesme.Idon'teatsugar.InevertouchedbadoilslikevegetableoilssoIwon'teatout.Iwon'teatinarestaurant.Imean,I'lleatinarestaurant.Iftheyhavevegetableoils,Iwon'teatthatfood.I'mreallystrictaboutthosetwothings.

Dr.TomO'Bryan: YoutalkedaboutaparticularprotozoathatisassociatedwithHashimoto'sthyroiddisease.Thatprotozoaiscalledblastocystishominis.Now,canyoutellusaboutthatandwhattheassociationiswiththisbugandhowitassociateswiththethyroid?


Youknow,it'sareallyinterestingbugsoitisaprotozoalikeyousaidanditaffectsthegut.It'sbeenrecognizedbysomedoctorsascommensalmeaningthatit'ssupposedtobethere,thatitdoesn't

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causeanyharm.Otherresearchershavefoundthatitdoescauseharm.Thatitcanbeassociatedwithchronichivesorurticariaandirritablebowelsyndrome.Insomecases,whentreated,people'surticariawillgointoremissionandtheirirritablebowelsyndromewillgointoremission.

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Everybodyisgoingtobealittlebitdifferent.Onepersonmayhaveacompleteremissionwheretheirthyroidantibodiesgointonormal.ThentheirTSHgoesintonormal.Theirsymptomsaregone.Otherpeoplemighthavealesseningoftheirfoodsensitivity.Blastoisespeciallyknowntomakepeoplesensitivetograins.Peoplearegoingtobesensitivetosugarswhenevertheyhaveblasto.Gettingridofitwillmakeapersonlesssensitivetoavarietyoffoods.Obviously,irritablebowelsyndromeandurticariagoesaway.I'vealsohadsomecasereportsofpeoplewhosethyroidsnoduleshavegoneawayaftertreatingtheblastocystishominis,whichIwasn'tpersonallyexpecting.We'rejustwatchingpeopleoverthelastfewyearswiththispathogen.Iknowthatgenerallyifwefindit,Igethappybecauseweknowthatit'satriggerthatwecangetridof.Eliminatingit,we'llfindthatapersonalwayswillfeelbetterandwillalwaysseeareductionintheantibodies.

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Onethingtonoteisit'sresistant.Metronidazoleisamedicationthat'scommonlyusedforit,about50%ofstrains,andthestrainsthatarethoughttobepathogenicaregoingtobepotentiallyresistanttoit.That'ssomethingtoconsider.AliniaisadifferentmedicationandIalsolikeherbalprotocolsthatmayutilizeoiloforegano,berberine,thingslikewormwoodalthoughthatrequireslivermonitoring.Thingsofthatnaturecanhelp,aswellassaccharomycesboulardiitohelpgetridofthepathogen.Therewasonestudythatsuggested80%eradicationratewithjustsaccharomycesboulardii.

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AnotherinterestingconnectionisthatsomepeoplewhohaveEpstein–Barrvirus...Epstein–BarrvirusandblastostendtogohandinhandespeciallypeoplewhohavehadEpstein–BarrvirusandthengoontohaveHashimoto'sandtheyjustcannotgetbetter.Oftentimestheyhaveblastoasarootcause.

Dr.TomO'Bryan: [00:50:00]

Let'stalkaboutviralinfectionsinsidethethyroidgland.Thisisveryinteresting.StudieshaveshownthatforpeoplewhohaveHashimoto'sdiseaseorGraves'diseaseandtheyhaveactiveEpstein–Barrvirusinfection,ifyouweretobiopsythethyroidgland,youwouldactuallyfindmassivenumbersoftheEpstein–Barrvirusinsidethegland.Now,that'saproblembecausethevirusincreasesinflammationintheglandanditdrivestheantibodyattackonthethyroidgland.Wehavetotargetthevirustoreducetheinflammationanddeactivatethevirusinthethyroidgland.

[00:50:30] Dr.ShirokoSokitch:

TheherbsinChinesemedicineareforhelpingtheimmunesystem.LikewithEpstein–Barrvirus,there'sspecificherbsthatIcanformulate.Again,differentpeoplewithEpstein–Barrviruswillhavedifferentsymptomssotheyhaveadifferentformula.Onepersonwillbecoldandanotherpersonwillbehotandfeverish.Onepersonwillhaveasorethroat.Anotherpersonwillhaveastomachache.Theyallhavethesedifferentsymptomsandtheherbswillbeadjustabletothosesymptomsandtheywillstillkillthevirus.


YoutalkedaboutgettingtotherootcausewhichIlovebecauseI'mallaboutgettingtotherootcause.Whataresomeofthefactorsthatcanbeattherootcauseforalotofpeoplewithchronicthyroiddisease?

TeriCochrane: [00:51:30]

Well,weknowthattheEpstein–Barrisahugevirus.Itisapathogenofepicproportions.MedicineisjustnowstartingtounderstandthemanystrainsoftheEpstein–Barrvirus.TheherpessimplexhasnowbeenlinkedtotheEpstein–Barrvirus.Inourpractice,whatwecalltheEpstein–Barrvirusisthepuppetmasterbecause,asaventriloquist,itsstandsbehindthecurtainanditmimicsotherdiseaseconditions.

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Whatweseewithourclientsismanyofourclientshavegonedownmultiplerabbitholesthathavesenttheminthewrongdirectionbecauseitpotentiallyhasfurtherimpairedtheimmunesystemfunctionbecausethey'vebeenputonimmunosuppressivesupplements,orthey'vebeenputonsteroids,orthey'vebeenputonantibiotics.Whatthisdoesisitfurthercreatesanenvironmentfortheguttobesusceptibletootherpathogens.Ifthepuppetmaster...Wecallitthehostoftheparty

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becauseitinvitesotherpathogenstocomeplay.Then,allofasudden,youhavethisarmyofundesirablesthatareworkinginourgutthathavenowleakedintoourlymphaticsystemthathaveevencrossedblood–brainbarrierandbecomeaneurotoxin.


Now,studieshaveconnectedtheEpstein–Barrvirustoautoimmunethyroiddisease.There'sarecentPolishstudythatfound80%ofpeoplewithHashimoto'shadtheEpstein–Barrvirusintheirthyroidglandand62%ofpeoplewithGraves'diseaseaswell.Now,peoplewillsaythatabout90%ofushavehadtheEpstein–Barrvirus.Whyisthisaproblemforsomepeoplebutnotforothers?


Whatwe'refindingisbacktothegeneticsandthelevelofgutintegrity.Backtothegutandbacktoyourgene.Ifyouhaveageneticpredisposition,let'ssayyouhavetheMTHFRgeneexpressionandyou'vehadapathogenoryou'vehadastressfuleventwhereyourgutisnotcompletelyintegralandit'snotintegrated,thenthepuppetmasterwasthetripwirethatcausedthegeneoftheMTHFRinparticulartobeexpressedinanegativeway.Whenthathappens,wearelesslikelytobreakdownprotein.Weknowthatvirusesfeedonprotein.

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Inmypractice,wehaveproventhattheEpstein–Barrviruslovesprotein,lovesamyloidproteins,notallproteins,butamyloidproteins.I'llexplainthatinaminute.WiththeMTHFRnotworkingproperly,wedon'tproducethesufficienthydrochloricacidsothenwearenotabletofullybreakdownourproteins.Inahypochloriticenvironment,wecan'tkillthepathogens,sonowwehaveundigestedproteinandapathogenenvironmentthattripsthewireandfeedstheEpstein-Barr.Now,wehaveanEpstein-Barrthathasbeenawakened.Thatvirushasbeengivenalighttoshineonit.It'scenterstage.It'sthehostofthepartyagain.It'sinvitingitsfriends.Yes,wecanhave...90%ofuscanbeexposedtothevirusbutthatvirus,muchlikeageneexpression,itwasturnedon,anditwasturnedonthroughsituationalandenvironmentalfactorsthathappenedinourbodybecausewearenotastaticbeing.


YoumentionedthattheEpstein-Barrviruslikestoeatproteins,butproteinsareabuildingblockforourthyroidhormones,aswellastherestofourentirebody.Youcan'tnecessarilygoonalong-termnoproteindiet.Whatdoyourecommend?


You'reabsolutelyright.Wehavecoinedthetermwildetarian,whichisanonamyloid-basedproteinstructure.We'vemadeitthroughjustourownbodyofworkinourpractice.You'reabsolutelyright.Thethyroidneedsproteinbutitcan'tuseproteinorassimilateproteinsthatareamyloidbasedthathavethistruncatedstructuresthatareindigestible.Whatwecounselourclientstodoistodevelopawildetarianapproachandthatisanythingthatisraisedinthewildthathasneverbeentreatedwithhormonesorantibiotics.Wereallylooktocompletelyunadulteratedanimalssuchasbison,andelk,andvenison,andlambandCornishgamehenandwildboar.Aswewalkthemthroughtheirjourneyofhealing,wereintroducefoods.Thosefoodsgenerallyareverywelltolerated.

[00:55:30] Wetakethemthrougha90-dayprotocolbecauseweknowthattheEpstein–Barroncewepullit,ithastogointotheliverandthenhopefullyitwillbeflusheddownthetoilet.Symptomsalreadystarttoresolveinaslittleasafewweeks.IthinkIintroducedyoutooneofmyclienttodaythatjusthappenedtobecomingbywithherhusband.Withintwoweeks,she'sseeingaresolutionshehasn'tseenin30years.

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We'vetakenpeoplethathavetheirTPOsinthe12,000sandtheydroptoeight.TSHfromeighttotwo,TSHfrom12to1.5.T3isresolved.Insulinlevelsthatwereinthedoubledigitsdroppedtofive.HemoglobinA1Csthatwere11thatdroppedto5.8.Ridiculous,ridiculous.Iamstillinawe.EverydayIshakemyheadindisbeliefbecauseit'snotjustI'mfeelingbetter.Wehaveclinicalevidenceandit'sclinicalevidenceweseeinourpracticeeveryday.

[00:56:30] Wetakepeopleoffoftheirthyroidmedication.Ofcourse,alwaysinconcertwiththeirdoctor.Theynolongerneedit.TheynolongerneedtheMetformin.Theynolongerthehighbloodpressuremedication.Theynolongerneedthecholesterolmedication.Theyjustdon'tbecausethebodyhasrebalanced.

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LaurenRice: [00:57:00]

OneofthethingsthatwedealwithalotinthispracticeistheEpstein–BarrviruswhichIbelieveisreallyatepidemicproportions.Itaffectspeopleinamultitudeofways.Itcanstartasasmallinfectionanditcanbeeverythingfromafull-blownhospitalizationthatresultsinanautoimmuneconditionandallkindsofmalabsorptionissues.ThisisavirusthatIactuallycontractedatayoungage.Itwasaffectingmeallthroughoutmyadolescenceandmyearly20s,butIdidn'tknowthatthiswasthecauseofalotofmyunderlyingpainandissues.


AnotherinfectionthatcantriggerthyroidconditionsistheborreliabacteriathatcausesLymedisease.Sadly,thisisoftenmissedandevenwhenit'sidentified,it'sconsideredincurable.WehavetheprivilegeofgettingtospeaktoadoctorthathadhiswifecomeinchesfromdeathduetoherstrugglewithLyme.He'sgoingtosharetheprotocolsofhowhehelpedrestoreherhealth.Likewitheverytopicweshare,listencarefullybecausethere'sagoodchanceyou'llcomeintocontactwithsomeonewhocouldreallybenefitfromthislifesavinginformation.

[00:58:00] Dr.JayDavidson: [00:58:30]

Now,mywifewhenshewaspregnant,shedevelopedsomeheartpalpitationslateraroundthatlasttrimestertimeperiodandwenttodoctors,ranbloodwork.Themidwifetryingtofigureoutwhatcouldbecausingtheseheartpalpitations.Oneofthethingsthattheylookedat,theylookedatthethyroid.Now,interestinglyenough,theonlybloodmarkerthattheylookedatwastheTSH,whichstandsforthyroidstimulatinghormone,whichisinterestingtolookatbecauseit'snotactuallyevenmadebythethyroid.TheylookedattheTSHformywife,Heather.Theyfoundoutthatitwaslow.Thatitwaswaybelownormalrange.

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Theydiagnosedherwithhypothyroid.TheygaveherArmourThyroid,didn'tseemtotouchorhaveanyeffectonhersotheysentherbackforanultrasound.Inthatultrasound,theyactuallynoticedthattherewasnodulesonherthyroid.Theysaid,"You’reautoimmunethyroid."Thenwelookedatthemandsaid,"Well,whatcanwedo?""Well,we'renotreallysurebutyou'reautoimmunethyroid."Offwewent.

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Afterthepregnancywhenmydaughterwasborn,mywifejustcouldn'trecover.Shewassoreallthetime.Justcouldn'tgetoutofbed,energywastanked.Ofcourseitwasalwaysthesleepfactorforchildren,sleepdeprivationIshouldsayformoms,especiallymomsanddadsaswell,too.Twomonthsintothat,thebottomjustfellout.Mywifegotreallysick,sosicktothepointthattherewerecountlessnightswhereIjustahardtimegoingtobedwonderingifshe'sgoingtowakeupthenextmorning.Thenifshedoesn't,whatamIgoingtodo?Newdad.I'veneverbeenaparentbefore.I'vegotthistwomontholddaughterthatwoulddependonmeandjustthesefearfulthoughtsgoingthroughmyhead.Praisethelord.Shewasabletomakeitthroughthat.

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Twomonthsinwhenthebottomfellout,shehadtostopbreastfeeding.Everythingstopped.Itwasjustlikewhatdoweneedtodotogetherwell?ItwasalmostasifthatthyroidTSHbloodworkwasanindicatorshowingthatthereweresomeproblemsinthefuturethatwe'regoingtoariseifwedidn'ttakecareofit.Obviously,wedidn'tunderstandwhatweretheunderlyingissuesofherthyroidcondition.Lymediseaseshowsupduringstress.Itshowsupduringtrauma.Ofcourse,pregnancy,laborprocessisverytraumatictothebody.

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Lymedisease,innature,istoughtodiagnose.Mywifehaditfor25plusyearschronically,butwedidn'tknowifitwasstillthereuntilaftermydaughterwasborn.Weranatestandfoundoutitwasacuteandoffthecharts.Heather,mywife,sherecoveredsimplybykillingthepathogens,specificallyLyme,andthenalsodetoxifyingheavymetals.Now,Iwouldneversuggesttodetoxwhenyou'repregnantorwhenyou'renursing.Obviously,mywifehadtostopnursingtwomonthsintodeliverybecausetheirbodyjustcouldn'tevenhandlebreastfeedinganymore.

[01:01:00] KillingLymedisease,detoxifyingheavymetals,thatwastheticketthattransformedherbody.Inevitably,thatalsochangedandimprovedherthyroid.ChronicLymeisautoimmuneinnature.ChronicLymeisjustdefinedasyouhadLymediseaseforgreaterthanfourorsixweeksandthatputsyouinthechronicstatewith...

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Dr.ShirokoSokitch: [01:01:30] [01:02:00]

WithLymedisease,whatIthinkaboutLymediseaseisthatI'mnotsurethat...Firstofall,Iknowthatanythingcanbehealed.Secondofall,I'mnotsurethattheapproachthatweuserightnowworksbecausealotofpeoplehaveLymediseasegetheavy-dutyantibiotics.Ihaveafellowphysicianinmycommunitythatdoesthereallyheavy-dutystuff.Hedoesheavy-dutyantibiotics,highdoseandIVsandallofthisstuff.Thesepeoplegetsosick.Theygetsomuchsickerthatitseemsalmostworse.Again,it'slikewhenyou'retryingtokill...It'slikedoingchemotherapytokillcancer.Eventhoughsometimeswehaveto,it'snotnecessarilyhealinginmymind.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Notthemostgentle.

Dr.ShirokoSokitch: [01:02:30]

Notthemostgentleapproach,yeah.ThetypesofpeoplethatIseeforLymediseaseareusuallypeoplewhodon'twantthatapproach.Idon'tdotheheavy-dutyantibioticsandIdon'tdothatkindofheavy-dutywork.WhatIdowithpeopleagainisthesamething.IfindChineseherbsorIfind...There'sanherbalistinmycommunitywho'screatedsomeremediesthatareamazing,thatareherbalremedies.It'scalledByronWhite.He'sgotremediesforLymedisease,andEpstein–Barrvirus,andparasitesandbacteria.They'rehighly,highlypotentherbs.They'realmostlikeacombinationofhomeopathyandherbalmedicines.

Dr.ToddWatts: [01:03:00] [01:03:30]

Ifthere'sabacterialinfection,theLyme,andotherco-infections,thatwewillusesomeproductsthatwillhelpwiththatanddealwiththeautoimmunitythatitcancauseaswell.SomeofthetreatmentoptionsthatwehaveIusewiththevirusesespecially,vitaminA.VitaminCisreallygood.Imakesurethatlysineisupathigherlevels.Thatyourdietconsistsoflowargininesothatthebalances,thelysinecomingup,argininecomingdown.Theargininecanreallyshiftupinflammationinmorevirallevelsthere.ThenalsoIusesomeformulas,herbalformulas,homeopathicsthatwillgoinandhelpremovethevirus.ThenIusemanganese,whichreallyhelpswithapplicationandsimilartolysine.ThosearefourmainthingsIusefortreatmentontheEpstein–Barr.


Gettingofftheinflammatoryfoods,addressingthehealthofyourmicrobiomewithfermentedfoodsandprobiotics,clearingoutinfectionsinsideandoutsidethegutandsupportingyourgut'shumancapacitiescanhelppeoplerecoverfromthemostseverethyroidsymptomsandthemostchallengingmysteryillnesses.Let'shearfromoneofthewonderfulpeoplewhowereselectedtosharetheirstoriesforthisdocumentary.

[01:04:30] AliciaBecker: [01:05:00]

AbouteightyearsagoIhadunexplainablejointswellingandpain.Itwasarthritis-likesymptomsandIwas19,20atthattime,soitwashardformetobelievethatIhadarthritis.Iwastoldtogoseearheumatologistandgetitcheckedout.TheyprettymuchsaidthatIhadundifferentiatedconnectivetissuedisease.Myprimarycomplaintwasthearthritis.

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IfoundoutthatIhadtracesofHashimoto'sandthebiggestculpritwastheEpstein–Barrvirus.Startingwiththejointpain,itwasdebilitating.Ihadahardtimeatonepointjustpickingupmytoothbrushtobrushmyteethlikesomethingaslightasthatandturningknobsondoorhandlesjusttogetthroughdoors.Itwentfromjointpaintoalsomusclefatigueandpain,too.Itstartedaffectingmywholebody.Physicallyitjustbecamedebilitating.Emotionallyitwasfatiguingandjustupsetting.Itaffectedalotofareasjustnotbeingabletofunctionnormally.I'myoungandIwasyoungeratthetimeofthediagnosis.ItjustwasreallytoughformetoswallowthatIhadsomethingsohardgoingon.Themsayingthatitwasarthritis,Iwasjustconfused.

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Friendsdidn'tunderstandeither.Itwashardbecauseit'smostlyaninvisibledisability.Peoplecan'tseewhatIwasfeeling.Therewasn'taphysicalindicatoronme.Therewasnocastorsomethingforthemtosay,"Somethingiswrong.You'rehurting."IthinkemotionallyitreallytookatollonmebecauseIstartedfeelingsignsofwhatIwouldsaywasdepressionjustbecauseIlostinterestinthingsthatIwantedtodonormally.Itwasaffectingmyvoicebecausemythyroidactuallyswelledsomuchthatitwaspushingonmyvocalcords,andI'masinger,andIteachmusic.Nothavingmyvoicemadeitreallydifficult.Ijustbecamereallyfrustratedandpeoplenoticed.PeoplenoticedthatIwasirritable.

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ItgottoapointwhereIcouldn'tbecomfortablesleeping,andsoIwasn'tgettingalotofsleep.ThenIhadtowakeupearlyandgotoschool.Iwasexhaustedwakingup.Iwasquestioningmycareerchoice.Ijustdidn'tthinkthatIcouldactuallybeafull-timeanything.IfiguredI'dhavetogotobeingpart-timesomething.Therearepart-timeteachersbutthecostoflivingaroundhereisprettyexpensive.Itmakesithardtodecidetogopart-time.

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Iwentabouteightyearsofbeingonandoff,justtraditionalmedicine.IstartedonsteroidstohelpthepainandthenIwasonarthritismedicinetoalsojustkeeptheinflammationdownlongtermanditwasn'treallyworking.Ikepthavingflareups.WhenIcametoseeTerry,andshepinpointedwhatwashappening,andwhatwasgoingon,andshechangedmydiet,andsheputonsupplements,Istartedseeingimprovementineightweeks.Iwentfromeightyearstohavingunexplainablepainandjustnotfunctioningproperlytoeightweeks.I'vehadfamilyandfriendjustsaythatit'sbeenaworldofdifference.TheoldAliciaisback.Myenergyisback.MypersonalityhasjustturnedaroundagainandthatfeelsreallygoodbecauseInoticedthedifference,too.I'mstartingtofeelalotbetter.IknowIstillhavealittlebittogobutthefactthatIcouldturnaleafineightweeksjustgivesmealotofhope.


Iknowwhatyou'reprobablythinking.Someoftherecommendationsthatwe'vemadeinthisepisodemightsoundextreme,butIencourageyoutopauseforamoment.Whatdoyouconsidermoreextreme:feelingsick,overweight,tired,andoverwhelmedwhiletakingnumerousmedicationsthataregivingyousideeffectsandnotmakingyouanybetterorfeelingfit,happy,healthyandcalmwhileeatingadietthat'sdifferentthanthatofyourpeers?What'sitgoingtobeforyou?Whathappenswhenyoudohealyourgut?Whatwilllifelooklikeafter?Isthisalifelongthing?


That'swhereyougo.Stepfiveisjustthe80-20balance.Nowyou'vecreatedanewlifestyle,butmaybeyourdiethasbeenquiterestricted.Idobelievethebodyishardwiredtoadaptandsurvive.Wehavesomanypeopleinourworldthatthey'redowntolikefivefoodsthattheycaneatwithout...Idon'tthinkwe'remeanttolivelifelikethat.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: No,we'renot.

ChristaOrecchio: We'remeanttobeabletoenjoyafullandvarieddietandtoreallyliveandcelebrate.Wecanhaveourgoodwineandourcoffee.Wecanhavethosethingsinmoderationbecausenowyouhaveastrongmicrobiome.

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Withanyonegoingthroughaprogram,iftheyhavemultipleautoimmunedisorders,that'sgoingtobeatouchandgoprocess.Certainfoodsthatmaybeyoucouldn'ttoleratebeforeinafoodsensitivitytest...No,Iwouldneverwanttobringbackingluten.Ingeneral,there'scertainfoods...Let'ssayasparagus,thatsomebodywithSIBOorFODMAPscouldn'teatit.Now,almostlikeachildorababy,youhavetohavethemtryfoodslikeseventimes.You'retrainingthebody.You'rereeducatingthebody.Thisisnowahealthyfood.Westarttoincorporatethosefoods.Thenthree,fourmonthslateriswhenthegardenhasbloomed.That'swhenyourerunthefoodsensitivitypanel.WhatamIreallyworkingwithnow?Ionlyhavethreetruefoodsensitivitiesbecausenowmybodyisinorder.

Dr.IzabellaWentz: Ihopethatthisepisodehasgivenyouthetoolsyouneedtorecoveryourguthealth.I'malwaysamazedtoseewhatsymptomsimprovewhenpeopleaddresstheirhealthortheirgutandremovethetriggersandrootcauseswithintheirbodies.Ihopethatyoutakethisinformationanduseit.Youdeservetofeelwellandyou'reworththeinvestment.

[01:11:30] Ireallywanttothankyoufortakingthetimetogodeep,fortakingthistimeforyourselfandwatchingthispowerfulepisode.Ireallywantedtomakesurethisinformationreachedyouwithoutyouhavingtoshelloutatonofmoneytohearthesameinformationfromexpensivepractitioners.Ibelievethatthisinformationshouldbeavailabletoeveryonewhoneedsit.

Ialsowanttoletyouknowthatifthisdocumentaryseriesisaresourceyou'dliketoown,thenpleaseconsidersupportingourmissionbymakingTheThyroidSecretyours.You'llbeabletoshareitwith

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[01:12:00] lovedonesandwatchitwheneveryouneedit.Torecordthisdocumentary,Itraveledaroundthecountryandinterviewedover150experts,aswellaspatientswhohavehadsuccessinrecoveringtheirhealth.Thisissothattogetherwecouldbringtolightthesecretsthatareholdingpeoplebackfromrecoveringtheirhealth.

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Therealityiswe'renotabigdrugcompanywithahugebudget.We'rejustasmalladvocacygroupofpassionatepeoplethatreliesonthesupportofpeoplelikeyou.Thankstoyoursupportwe'reabletocontinueourworkandcreatingresourcesthatwillhelpbringanendtothesufferingmillionsofpeoplearefacingneedlessly.

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IencourageyoutotakechargeofyourhealththroughbecominganinformedpatientwiththehelpofTheThyroidSecretseries.Whenyouownthispowerfulseries,you'llalsobepayingitforwardinhelpingothersreceivethislife-changingmessage.Whenyouchoosetoownthisseries,you'llalsohavetheopportunitytoreceivetheentireuncutfulllengthinterviewswitheverysingleexpertandsuccessstory,whichisover166interviews.ThiswillallowyoutogodeeperandgetsomemoreofthoseahamomentsthatIhopeyou'vehadinwatchingthisseries.

ThoughIsuretried,wesimplycouldn'tfitallofthetransformationalinformationthatwassharedduringtheinterviewsinthisnine-partseries.Sothatyoudon'tmissout,Iwantedtogiveyoutheopportunitytoownthisunreleasedcontent.Thetruthsyou'lllearnwillsurelychangeyourlifeforthebetter.

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Lastly,wethoughtyou'dliketoknowthataportionofallsaleswillbedonatedtocharity.Yourpurchasewillhelptoraiseawarenessandsupportthoseindividualsthataren'tabletoreceivethecaretheyneedduetofinancialchallenges.Pleaseconsidersupportingourmissiontodaybyclickingthelinkbelow.ThankyouandIhopethatthisinformationhelpsyouonyourhealthjourney. [Here’swhat’stocomeinthenextepisode!] Therearepeoplejustlikeyouwhoselivesweretornapartwhentheystartedexperiencingthesymptomsofthyroiddisease.Theoverwhelmingfatigue,theanxiety,thedepression,thebrainfog,thehairloss,theweightissues,thejointpain,andtheirritability.Thisstrippedawaytheirsenseofidentity,theirdreamsforthefuture,andputawedgeintheirrelationships.Theywerefiredfromtheirjobs,theywentthroughdivorces,andothersspenttheirbestyearslyinginbed.Itwasadarkanddifficulttime,butI,forone,amsogladthatthisisnotwheretheirstoriesended.Thesebeautifulpeople,whoyou’llmeetinthisepisode,foughtfortheirhealthandfoundtheanswerstheyneeded.Eachandeveryoneofthemturnedtheirhealtharoundandbecametheherooftheirownjourney.Thisepisodewillrevealtheinspiringjourneyofthosewhoovercamethyroiddisease,whattheyexperienced,whatamazingthingstheydidtotreattheirconditionsandwhatadvicetheyhaveforyouandyourlovedonesstillinthethroesofthyroiddisease.Thisepisodewillalsoshowcaseworld-renownedexpertsonthyroiddiseasewhosharetheirsimplesecretstopropelyouonyourjourneytohealth.Thisinspiringseriesfinaleisnottobemissed.

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