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Major Points to Consider
In order to compare reflectors the support has to be included.
Hydroformed reflector cost is mostly material.
Tooling cost gets lost in this project.
An offset is 16% more area.
12m has not been done before.
Previous 6m reflectors were 4.8mm thick, 12m will be 3.0mm
Hat Creek Assy
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SKA Assy
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Direct Unit PriceEasiest to Estimate
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Direct VariablePer Unit
Direct Fixed
Total Units
TotalUnit Cost
DirectUnit Cost
Unit Price
Raw materialIncoming freightDirect LaborConsumablesPackaging
EngineeringToolingProcess development
Total Unit CostBest for comparison
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TotalUnit Cost
DirectUnit Cost
Indirect Fixed
Total Units
DirectUnit Cost
Unit Price
Facilities, Utilities,Rent, Insurance,Management, Purchasing, Training,Repairs, replacement.
Unit PriceHard to Estimate
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Margin
TotalUnit Cost
DirectUnit Cost
Unit PriceTotal
Unit Cost
ProfitsProject ProposalsMarketingInvestmentsShareholder dividends
Okay Assumptions First
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A Peak at Final Results
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Direct Variable CostsSummarize by Stations
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Step 1 Detail by Station
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More Detail by Station
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More Detail by Station
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Summary Direct Variable Costs
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Step 2, Production Rate Needed
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Step 3, Direct Fixed Costs
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Final Results Again
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Reflector & Support
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Dedicated Facilitymatched to production rate
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6 m ATA Primary
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6m JPL Symmetric
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Inspection ATA Secondary
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Test of Flash Projected Targets
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John Andersen & First Shipment
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Surface RMS at 12m ?
Project Diameter Mfg rms Grav rms Wt lbs
ATA 6.1m 29.2m² 0.25mm 0.70mm 1,400
JPL 6.0m 28.3m² 0.20mm 0.27mm
TDP 12.0m 113.1m² 1.50mm 5,814
CART Mk 1 10.0m 78.5m² 1.20mm
CART Mk 2 10.0m 78.5m² 0.54mm 0.86mm
XDM 15.0m 176.7m² 1.80mm
KAT 7 12.0m 113.1m² 1.00mm
ASKAP 12.0m 113.1m² 1.00mm
Mounted with gravity
paint
1/20
Previous 6m reflectors were 4.8mm thick, 12m will be 3.0mmOffsets have less curvature
0.36mm
6m ATA Early
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Primary 12
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2.4m ATA Early
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Secondary 12
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Primary Reflector CostsJust Beginning to Learn
Project Diameter $ / dish Wt lbs $ / m² $ / lb
ATA -42 6.1m 29.2m² 24,600 1,400 842 17.57
ATA -350 6.1m 29.2m² 13,700 1,400 469 9.79
TDP 12m 113.1m² 29,451 5,814 260 5.07
CART Mk 2 10.0m 78.5m² 50,416 642
ASKAP 12m 113.1m²
KAT7 12m 113.1m²
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ATA -350 reflector original bid $8,300 at 12% total cost.ATA-42 Most recent price is $19,200 at 25% total cost
These are not final confirmed figures.Some of these numbers are guesses.
Antenna CostsJust Beginning to Learn
Project Diameter $ / ant Wt lbs $ / m² $ / lb
ATA-42 6.1m 29.2m² 78,000 4,500 2,671 17.33
ATA-350 6.1m 29.2m² 66,000 4,500 2,260 14.67
ASCAP-36 12m 113.1m² 200,000 66,140 1,768 3.02
KAT7-80 12m 113.1m² 300,000 42,000 2,653 7.14
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ATA -350 reflector original bid $8,300 at 12% total cost.ATA-42 Most recent price is $19,200 at 25% total cost
These are not final confirmed figures.Some of these numbers are guesses.